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« Reply #400 on: June 30, 2005, 12:41:05 AM »

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Have you ever considered that the local mafia in aruba is not amused at all with all the attention in Aruba , whith all the searches going on .


   Well, obviously, they should make Joran an offer he can't refuse.
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« Reply #401 on: June 30, 2005, 12:42:05 AM »

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For all we know they are in protective custody due to the presence on the island of US nationals who might do them harm.


If that's the case, they may as well skip the indictments, convictions and just sentence them each to 20 years at KIA.

For their own self-preservation, coming clean at this point is their best bet.

Just remember....Vengeance is a dish best served cold.
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« Reply #402 on: June 30, 2005, 12:42:34 AM »

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non official cover.  you work out of a front business rather than out of say, an embassy.


Sorry, RB...but with current conversation, I think it's a good idea to repost

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: WARNING...HITMEN AWAIT RELEASE OF SUSPECTS TO ACT

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Arrived as press.

Awaiting for 'new' appointed judge's decision to release men on this friday.
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« Reply #403 on: June 30, 2005, 12:42:35 AM »

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Where you been Ella's Mom? Is the air a little thin up there?


I am here trying to keep up.  I am not sure I understand your comment
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« Reply #404 on: June 30, 2005, 12:42:50 AM »

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so Charles Croes actually contradicts Beth's story - since Beth says they had an idea who was seen with Natalee last and went to the casino and got the name from the sign in sheets....


I thought that Beth had gotten the decription of Joran from the Twitty cousins, then reviewed the security camera tape from the Holiday Inn casino and spotted the guy who fit their description.


Where you gittin all that, coco?


Actually...the story was that they got the description from MB kids, looked on video tape, got the name Joran V. for the sheets, AND THEN A TAXI DRIVER TOLD THEM JORAN'S FULL NAME!   So CC must have been the taxi driver who gave them his name!!
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« Reply #405 on: June 30, 2005, 12:43:20 AM »

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:14 pm    Post subject:   
He has a 1001 and one jobs, according to my mom. Several businesses one after the other.

Does anyone know who the other two Arubans are?
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above is what aruba girl said about charles, i believe.
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« Reply #406 on: June 30, 2005, 12:44:11 AM »

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I thought that Beth had gotten the decription of Joran from the Twitty cousins, then reviewed the security camera tape from the Holiday Inn casino and spotted the guy who fit their description.


Where you gittin all that, coco?


Actually I think it said Jug talked to his nephews and got the description.
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« Reply #407 on: June 30, 2005, 12:44:14 AM »

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The number they would have called would not have been on the internet. It would have been to a phone in a purse in a car travelling back from Arkansas.


I've been thinkin all along that a call was made to the home......but you, if it was moms cell that received the call, she could have had all calls from home forwarded to her cell........just thinkin maybe?
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« Reply #408 on: June 30, 2005, 12:44:33 AM »

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I thought the Bama gang got the Van Der Sweat's address from the casino/poker room on that first night? Now this guy on Greta says he got it from some random kids at the beach?


The bartender who knoew of "Joran V." told them to check a certain cabi!  He knew where to send them!(or show them?)


And there was a scuffle between Joran and Natalee's step-cousin, which if I am not mistaken, People magazine indicates that the family was aware of before Natalee's disappearance.

We do not however, know what the scuffle was about, or whether it involved raised voices, physical violence, name-calling or what.

Natalee is reported to have been seen dancing with Joran subsequent to the scuffle. We do not know if she knew about the scuffle.
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« Reply #409 on: June 30, 2005, 12:44:53 AM »

What are the odds that an infinite amount of monkeys, locked in this website cage, typing furiously on their keyboards, to randomly solve this Aruban Mystery?[/quote]

beats me ...I am still looking for my bananna,,,,hey all! Wink
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« Reply #410 on: June 30, 2005, 12:45:27 AM »

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so Charles Croes actually contradicts Beth's story - since Beth says they had an idea who was seen with Natalee last and went to the casino and got the name from the sign in sheets....


I thought that Beth had gotten the decription of Joran from the Twitty cousins, then reviewed the security camera tape from the Holiday Inn casino and spotted the guy who fit their description.


Where you gittin all that, coco?


Actually...the story was that they got the description from MB kids, looked on video tape, got the name Joran V. for the sheets, AND THEN A TAXI DRIVER TOLD THEM JORAN'S FULL NAME!   So CC must have been the taxi driver who gave them his name!!
 now we have yet another version.  remember the first on e came from dan reihl.  here is what the press said:  http://www.cdnn.info/news/travel/t050618.html
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« Reply #411 on: June 30, 2005, 12:45:38 AM »

Are you all still going to be here when this case is over?
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« Reply #412 on: June 30, 2005, 12:45:57 AM »

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Have you ever considered that the local mafia in aruba is not amused at all with all the attention in Aruba , with all the searches going on .The police is going to stumble on other suspicous things aswell. The natalee case gives a sort of carte blanche for the police to search many places. So supposedly if another party is involved in the natalee dissapearance I can imagine they would pressure him/her really hard to come up with information.


Ever since the Natalee case broke I ve been keeping an eye on the drug scenes on Aruba.  Well as far as I can remember, ever so often a drop is made, we are talking Cocaine...Bags full of it, sometimes multiple bags.  That floats and get beached...Its been going like this for decades...and arecent as 2 weeks ago it happened again

This past weekend 1800 kilos of  cocaine was seized by a Royal dutch Frigate with coorperation of DEA, US.  I hope that Nat did not get involved in drugs and gangsta.
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« Reply #413 on: June 30, 2005, 12:46:28 AM »

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Have you ever considered that the local mafia in aruba is not amused at all with all the attention in Aruba , with all the searches going on .The police is going to stumble on other suspicous things aswell. The natalee case gives a sort of carte blanche for the police to search many places. So supposedly if another party is involved in the natalee dissapearance I can imagine they would pressure him/her really hard to come up with information.
Mafia or whatever...a rose by any name...can't imagine they like the media scrutiny...but they know they are safe...unless the whole top blows...

Always remember they brought down Al Capone not by convicting him of his many heinous deeds, but because of Income Tax.

I keep thinking of Wizard (are you there?) saying "Follow the money".  Then last night when I mentioned it, he replied "Folllow the Monet."

That may have been George Dickel talking and just a typo, but I wonder.  I typed back "Follow the Rembrandt" (as in Van Rijn), but if I was so far behind, I think he'd gone to bed last night.
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« Reply #414 on: June 30, 2005, 12:47:11 AM »

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Are you all still going to be here when this case is over?


   It depends. Will you still love me tomorrow?
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« Reply #415 on: June 30, 2005, 12:47:24 AM »

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Are you all still going to be here when this case is over?


I will find other reasons to dispute about with my newly won amercian friends   Wink
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« Reply #416 on: June 30, 2005, 12:47:40 AM »

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Give me 5 heavy duty truck batteries, a 5 gallon bucket of water, 1 set of jumper cables, 2 quarts of isopropyl alcohol and 1 uninterrupted hour with Joran Van Der Stool Sample and I'll tell you what happened to Natalee if indeed he does know.  If he doesn't know then 4 weeks in the hospital and a big box of chocolates ought to make it all right.

And blaring Christina Aguillero!  Sotaspeak!
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« Reply #417 on: June 30, 2005, 12:47:46 AM »

LIGHTBULB MOMENT:

The business Charles Croes owns RENTS mobile phones to vacationers (I guess since all cell phones don't work down there).  Could Croes have been contacted by that "mutual friend" (i.e. Rep Spencer Bachus) of his and the Twittys not as someone who can track cell phone calls (i.e. the kidnap call) but as someone whose client may be of particular interest???

No, I don't have the source, but it's the site posted at the end of the last thread -  just prior to my post asking if Mariaine C. was his daughter.



PS - I think Joran would rather be in jail than sing and get killed.
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« Reply #418 on: June 30, 2005, 12:48:46 AM »

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Are you all still going to be here when this case is over?


At the rate things are going, that will depend on the internet access available in our respective Senior Care facilities.
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« Reply #419 on: June 30, 2005, 12:48:49 AM »

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so Charles Croes actually contradicts Beth's story - since Beth says they had an idea who was seen with Natalee last and went to the casino and got the name from the sign in sheets but Charles Croes claims that he met Beth at the gas station then headed with the family (but in his own car with a mysterious local boy) towards the HI to meet further but instead of going with them he decided to stop at several beaches and at one there were 3 cars and he talked to the people (kids?) with the cars and describes Deepak's car and the kids on the beach say "oh yeah, that's Joran" and then give him Joran's address - he then claims he went to Joran's house (but did not approach?) and calls Beth who says come back to the HI which he does and then they all get together and go back to Joran's house with posse and polis ...

methinks CC is trying to look important and is making things up since I do trust BTH's account of her own timeline for that night


I thought that Beth had gotten the decription of Joran from the Twitty cousins, then reviewed the security camera tape from the Holiday Inn casino and spotted the guy who fit their description.


Where you gittin all that, coco?


Both of these may be true.
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