RBN#35 06/29/05 Wed-Thursday Overnight.

[szundi]

Hi Rte!

Nice to see you here.

Put me in the JVDS is guilty camp, with a little help from his friends, and a lot of help from family.

Sure wish they would find her body, but my best guess is she was dumped at Boca Mahos--on the wild side--to the sharks.

I have resisted e-mailing my Aruban, friends as these things are best talked about in private and in person.

szundi

[waitingtoknow]

Hi Monkeys.....

I have nothing to add...just haven't posted in a while...have been coming on and reading...so thought I would say hey  

Oh, and....this case is so everchanging and complex...it makes my head feel like it is fixin to explode...(kinda like when I try thinking about..if God made Jesus, who made God...)  

Hey waiting...long time, no see

   Hey

[friend of monkeys]

I'M NOT CRAZY.

Saw the Monet.  Missed the "Rembrandt" post, but just take a wild guess what Rembrandt's last name is.  Quickly if you please - it's time for me to go to bed!

van wiggle???

[Lausa]

I'M NOT CRAZY.

Saw the Monet.  Missed the "Rembrandt" post, but just take a wild guess what Rembrandt's last name is.  Quickly if you please - it's time for me to go to bed!

I saw it, too.  Also missed the Rembrandt van Rijn post, but wish "I'd said that," it's a fave topic of mine.  So you're van gogh'ing to bed now?

OUCH

[TVMom]

Just a test

[Lausa]

these things are best talked about in private and in person.

szundi

Well keep notes of what you hear and let us know!  I'd love to be able to do some hands-on research there, but my sad lack of Papiamento and/or Dutch skills would be a problem.

[sb]

I think "Follow The Monet" is just a typo. This whole Lorenzo business is a big red herring, just like the "Shango" stuff.

One other little tidbit that has not been discussed form Charles Croes' 15 minutes of fame tonight... He mentioned that he went out to the Lighthouse on Monday night as a prelude to the Alabama Gang's (BTW, that is a term of the utmost respect locally) arrival at Casa VDS.

AND THERE WERE A BUNCH OF YOUNG KIDS HANGING OUT THERE at 2:00 or 2:30 late Monday night-Tuesday morning.

If there were teens etc. out there that night, who is to say that there were not people around there at 1:30 or thereabouts the night before? Or that there were not people down at the Fishermen's Huts beach either?

Someone HAD to have seen, or heard, SOMETHING. Why won't anyone come forward and speak?

[szundi]

Dear Robert J,

I will be on the beach lounging and reading, eating great food, and playing in the casinos.

Sorry, but running around taking pictures and sleuthing is not on my agenda for this time.

Arubagirl has taken a lot of pictures already and done a very good job. She has hit all the high points.

This is a pure vacation time for me.

szundi

Joran, Satish, & Deepak = PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN !!!


>szundi wrote:
>
>Another bit of personal info, I am going to be on Aruba for 2
>weeks shortly and will be having a Greta withdrawal because
>we don't get FOX news there.
 
Szundi,

You can always
(1) get over to the CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFE and log in here;
(2) check http://foxnews.com for Greta videoclips;
(3) check http://nataleeholloway.tripod.com for Greta videoclips..

Take as many digital photos of the possible "routes" that Natalee could have taken from Carlos N Charlies to Joran's house in "the silver car"..
post them to us..   look for video surveilance security cameras along the route (i.e. those that maybe could have captured "the silver car" driving by..)

[Lausa]

The dogs should sniff all around the area/backyard of 19 montanja residence(PvdS); all septic tanks in the area should be opened/dragged;the residence freezer should be analyzed;Any collaborated phone contact, should have all the above done at their residence AND place of bussiness.......

Is this something that could be on the Texans' agenda?  Definitely should be checked out.

[TTownMike]

I've never once seen a source for the claim that Natalee stayed out 3 nights.  Yet some people like to continually present it as a fact.

I thought I'd heard that she changed roommates once. And then everyone was socializing with everyone else and people were crashing for the night in their friends' rooms. If she was up late talking in one room, maybe she thought it would be nicer to sleep there instead of waking up her 3 other roommates.

Whutchutawkinbout, writenow?  Helloo?  The fact is she was not missed perhaps for that reason.  But its a cinch she actually did not stay there!  Sotaspeak!

I've been going through Dash's postings.
Here:

No, we just thought she might have overslept... We didn't think she was that little punk at all! She's not usually late, but we thought she must have just crashed somewhere, if not in her room, then in one of her other friend's rooms.

What I said!  Just a reason why they did not become concerned til later.  No sign she was just missplaced!  So?  We know she did not stay in any room there that night!

[Itawamba]

Hi Rte!

Nice to see you here.

Put me in the JVDS is guilty camp, with a little help from his friends, and a lot of help from family.

Sure wish they would find her body, but my best guess is she was dumped at Boca Mahos--on the wild side--to the sharks.

I have resisted e-mailing my Aruban, friends as these things are best talked about in private and in person.

szundi

Darn, I was hoping you'd have some insight from that side.  But, you will *soon.*  Which part of the Island is your home base?  Now that I've studied it *some,* it will be more meaningful to me, lol.  Is G/J going, too?

Oh, about that pic of Joran--that was very early in the investigation, when he was taken from the jail at Noord to KIA prison.  Not sure why a Visitors tagged car, maybe "unmarked" to keep press at bay?

[Kkial]

I think "Follow The Monet" is just a typo. This whole Lorenzo business is a big red herring, just like the "Shango" stuff.

One other little tidbit that has not been discussed form Charles Croes' 15 minutes of fame tonight... He mentioned that he went out to the Lighthouse on Monday night as a prelude to the Alabama Gang's (BTW, that is a term of the utmost respect locally) arrival at Casa VDS.

AND THERE WERE A BUNCH OF YOUNG KIDS HANGING OUT THERE at 2:00 or 2:30 late Monday night-Tuesday morning.

If there were teens etc. out there that night, who is to say that there were not people around there at 1:30 or thereabouts the night before? Or that there were not people down at the Fishermen's Huts beach either?

Someone HAD to have seen, or heard, SOMETHING. Why won't anyone come forward and speak?

You are so right,,,also, he described the silver, gray metallic car and tall dark headed boy and this kid identified Joran,,and I thought he said that the kid got in the car and went with Him,,,,,,Also, in terstingly, PVDS rode witht he polis,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[friend of monkeys]

I think "Follow The Monet" is just a typo. This whole Lorenzo business is a big red herring, just like the "Shango" stuff.

One other little tidbit that has not been discussed form Charles Croes' 15 minutes of fame tonight... He mentioned that he went out to the Lighthouse on Monday night as a prelude to the Alabama Gang's (BTW, that is a term of the utmost respect locally) arrival at Casa VDS.

AND THERE WERE A BUNCH OF YOUNG KIDS HANGING OUT THERE at 2:00 or 2:30 late Monday night-Tuesday morning.

If there were teens etc. out there that night, who is to say that there were not people around there at 1:30 or thereabouts the night before? Or that there were not people down at the Fishermen's Huts beach either?

Someone HAD to have seen, or heard, SOMETHING. Why won't anyone come forward and speak?

i don't think was a typo-in defense of wiz....

[Kkial]

Oh, about that pic of Joran--that was very early in the investigation, when he was taken from the jail at Noord to KIA prison.  Not sure why a Visitors tagged car, maybe "unmarked" to keep press at bay?[/quote]


I saw the same on Fox and Larry King...Never saw that shot...really closeup of his face and he was "smirking" i though when he looked into the camera,,,really close the carmera was..\\Think he was being returned to KIA   probably after interrogation and getting a "visit" from der old dad

[Robert J]

As everyone else, I hope and pray for the best outcome..
however, a very similar story played out before..


and the TIMELINE for that story can be seen here
http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/special_packages/dru_sjodin/archive/

TIMELINE:

- A 22-year-old University of North Dakota student Dru Sjodin left her job at the Columbia Mall in Grand Forks, North Dakota at 4 p.m. Nov. 22, 2003 and was never seen alive again.  She was soon to graduate from the University of North Dakota.  It was about 6 months before they found her body.  The body was found within 8 minutes of the suspect's house.

-Judge gags lawyers in Rodriguez case (Jan 7, 2004)
-Benefit for missing UND student draws hundreds (Jan. 10, 2004)
-Judge delays Rodriguez trial (Jan. 15, 2004)
-Searches for Dru resume (Jan. 17, 2004)
-Prison officials face residents of Dru Sjodin's hometown (Jan. 18, 2004)
-Weather inhibits search (Jan. 19, 2004)
-Searchers look east (Jan. 21, 2004)
-A mother and father look (Jan. 23, 2004)
-More signs for Dru (Jan. 24, 2004)
-Sjodin search resumes (Feb. 04, 2004)
-Dog scents something in search for Sjodin (Feb. 06, 2004)
-Manhunter and his bloodhound seek Dru (Feb. 07, 2004)
-Law officials watch family search for Dru (Feb. 11, 2004)
-Evidence may link Rodriguez, Dru's car (Feb. 14, 2004)
-Family searches job site (Feb. 18, 2004)
-Dru Sjodin search continues near Crookston (Feb. 25, 2004)
-Feds talk to suspect (Feb. 28, 2004)
-Crew 'burps' river (Feb. 28, 2004)
-Bills tell feds' story - (Feb. 29, 2004)
-Rodriquez hearing to be on TV, radio (March 3, 2004)
-Rodriguez in court (March 5, 2004)
-Judge finds probable cause (March 5, 2004)
-Students stop and watch (March 6, 2004)
-Emotional response (March 6, 2004)
-Preliminary hearing yields new information (March 6, 2004)
-Family, friends testify for Dru (March 9, 2004)
-Gag order might end (March 31, 2004)
-Prosecution's timeline in Rodriguez case with store videos (April 1, 2004)
-Search for Dru takes to the Red Lake River (April 7, 2004)
-Law enforcement searches again (April 8, 2004)
-Search springs to action (April 14, 2004)
-Club to hold Dru benefit (April 15, 2004)
-Border Patrol dogs join Sjodin search (April 15, 2004)
-Prosecutors want to keep gag order in Dru Sjodin case (April 15, 2004)
-Visibility improves (April 16, 2004)
-A party for Dru (April 16, 2004)
-Dru Sjodin case probably will go federal, attorneys say (April 18, 2004)
-A sad day of relief and memories (April 17, 2004)
-'Dru is home' (April 18, 2004)
-Candlelight vigil for UND students set for tonight (April 18, 2004)
-Residents express sympathy for family (April 18, 2004)
-Officials react to news that Sjodin's body is found (April 18, 2004)
-At least Dru's loved ones know (April 18, 2004)
-UND students gather to remember Dru Sjodin (April 19, 2004)
-Region remembers Dru (April 19, 2004)
-EDITORIAL: A death in the family (April 19, 2004)

[TTownMike]

I spect tha key factor will become the Voice Analyzer!  The world will know who's lying even as they persist!  

The obviosity of the contrived
audacity makes me abnormally regurgatatable! Sotaspeak!

HUH??????

Didn't you see the demo of the Voice Analyzer they showed on FOX.  I think it was with Greta.  From one short tape of papa in interview, it showed dramatically that he seemed to be agonizing, and lying!  Sotaspeak!
We'll be hearing much more about the VOICE ANALYZER!  Watch and see!

good!  i missed the show/all news since 7/anything else??

They came in 24 hrs ago with new hightech VOICE ANALYZER!  It makes papa look very bad.  If they dont shove out of the way, we'll be herein much more incrimnation from Papa!

[Itawamba]

Funny how everyone sees different things in that pic of Joran in the car.  Lots of people said he looks "thin."  Ha ha, I thought it was a NEW pic (from yesterday or so) and he looked like he'd gained 10-12 pounds to me!  Fat face.

In a white shirt, it was hard to tell who he was.

[waitingtoknow]

Good Night All....take care!  


(sorry this is OFF TOPIC   )  

[Kkial]

Funny how everyone sees different things in that pic of Joran in the car.  Lots of people said he looks "thin."  Ha ha, I thought it was a NEW pic (from yesterday or so) and he looked like he'd gained 10-12 pounds to me!  Fat face.

In a white shirt, it was hard to tell who he was.

Certainly did not look thin to me....CNNs camera was in his face,,,they zoomed right in on him,,,could even see zits...

[Lausa]

I think "Follow The Monet" is just a typo. This whole Lorenzo business is a big red herring, just like the "Shango" stuff.

Someone HAD to have seen, or heard, SOMETHING. Why won't anyone come forward and speak?

They're scared?