RBN #36 06/30/05 Thursday-DAY

[WonderWoman]

Will someone ask WW if she can tell us the actual date the email was sent? that could be crucial info.

Sunday, June 5th (1st e-mail)

Is that the date of the original email or the date you received it from your "friend"?

original date received by "friend"

[xcptnl]

Author: Charles (---.setardsl.aw)
Date:   06-15-05 16:52

Enrique,
Be very careful when using my name in connection with crime. Very careful indeed.

charles
arubafastphones.com


i found this on the aruba.com site

What did Enrique say before that that got him upset? (assuming this is the same Charles).

These and the others you posted are very interesting xcptnl.  Very.

Before aruba.com closed up their site and removed old messages he (charles) was posting about what was going on Aruba...I recall some of them being cryptic - makes more sense now.

[Ting]

C. CROES: After that, we spoke a while. And then we left that location with the intention of going to the Holiday Inn to continue meeting. On the way there, a young man and I were sitting in my car. And on the way there, instinctively, I wanted to go to drive off, pull over to the cabana area, just to look to see if perhaps she was there.

VAN SUSTEREN: Then where did you go?

C. CROES: Then we continued on track over to the Holiday Inn. And we were supposed to turn over to go into the Holiday Inn. And I had made a decision not to and went straight ahead. And going straight ahead, I made another decision to go to the beach area.

Making me mad!!!

Hey do you think the young man in the car with him could have been the x-boyfriend staying on to help look for her???

Or could it be the other guy named Brown who went to Aruba the same day, and is not missing but cannot be located?

Or could it be Sergio Gomez? Lorenzo? Mr. Pink? Renee?

Or maybe Mr. Croes has an imaginary friend?

May I assume that all his aruba.com posts from the early days following Natalee's disappearance have been deleted?

[jac723]

"...C. CROES: On the way there, a young man and I were sitting in my car..."
Hey do you think the young man in the car with him could have been the x-boyfriend staying on to help look for her???

Honestly--I don't know anything anymore.  It could have been the McVae guy they were talking about-it could have been SC, Lorenzo--who knows.  I find it odd that C Croes decides to drive past the HI where he was supposed to go and...there are 3 cars just sitting there.  There were kids there--hmmm maybe friends of Joran-more buddies--SC, Lorenzo????

C Croes describes JVDS to the kids and a detailed description of car-and from a car that is not JVDS-they know who he is??

[klaasend]

Will someone ask WW if she can tell us the actual date the email was sent? that could be crucial info.

Sunday, June 5th (1st e-mail)

Is that the date of the original email or the date you received it from your "friend"?

original date received by "friend"

So that doesn't give us the actual date of the email since we don't know if it was forwarded to your "friend".

[xcptnl]

Here is the whole message thread:

Author: Enrique Gonzales (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date:   06-15-05 07:58

Is Charles a suspect or something? Not like him to miss a chance to shill for his cell phones.
 
 
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 Re: cell phones
Author: Charles (---.setardsl.aw)
Date:   06-15-05 16:52

Enrique,
Be very careful when using my name in connection with crime. Very careful indeed.

charles
arubafastphones.com
 
 
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 Re: cell phones
Author: Charles (---.setardsl.aw)
Date:   06-16-05 08:23

ENRIQUE,
YOUR REMARK HAS CAUSED ME TO RECIEVE OVER 150 MAILS ASKING IF YOU COULD BE CORRECT OR WHAT MY TIES ARE WITH THE CASE. YOU NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH YOUR STATEMENTS. TO SLAM MY BUSINESS IS ONE THING BUT TO HINT AT CRIMINAL IMPLICATION IS SOMETHING ELSE.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO STOP THIS AT ONCE.

CHARLES CROES
 
 
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 Re: cell phones
Author: Robert (70.56.239.---)
Date:   06-16-05 10:56

Charles. There is nothing to worry about. We all know even if you have ties with the case nothing will be done about. But it does sound like you are nervous about something.
 
 
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 Re: cell phones
Author: Charles (---.setardsl.aw)
Date:   06-16-05 15:05

Robert,
Perceptive guy indeed.

Not so much nervous as tired and a bit frayed around the edges. Work has piled up and trying to keep things going while involved in other issues is tough.

Thanks for your note.
charles
arubafastphones.com

[sandraK]

Hey, check this out. Does this mean that you have to be in a car to get coverage in those yellow areas? If so, a call placed from any of those locations would mean someone wasn't walking...

http://www.digicelaruba.com/coverage/

Oh My Gosh!!  I just checked that out.. thanks for the link.
From what it says.. the yellow parts of that map say in car coverage..
I would thik if you can get coverage in a car.. that you would be also to get it in the same areas if you were walking ect.. IMO

LOL.as "Car Phone"..and this   Company only!

[WonderWoman]

Will someone ask WW if she can tell us the actual date the email was sent? that could be crucial info.

Sunday, June 5th (1st e-mail)

Is that the date of the original email or the date you received it from your "friend"?

original date received by "friend"

That did not come out right...this is the date he originally sent it.
time: 00:33:15

[WonderWoman]

Will someone ask WW if she can tell us the actual date the email was sent? that could be crucial info.

Sunday, June 5th (1st e-mail)

Is that the date of the original email or the date you received it from your "friend"?

original date received by "friend"

So that doesn't give us the actual date of the email since we don't know if it was forwarded to your "friend".

The header shows to "friend" directly from Deepaks e-mail

[KerinTX]

DF...can you please login to AIM and IM me at KerinA324?

[dragonfly]

C Croes describes JVDS to the kids and a detailed description of car-and from a car that is not JVDS-they know who he is??

Well, this caught my attention too, but if Joran was well known as the "Dutch guy" who ran around with Deepak in that car, I could see kids being able to pinpoint Joran by Deepak's car.  I ran around with a girl in school that drove a yellow Toyota Celica.  If anyone described me and that car people would have known it was me even though it wasn't my car.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Hey, check this out. Does this mean that you have to be in a car to get coverage in those yellow areas? If so, a call placed from any of those locations would mean someone wasn't walking...

http://www.digicelaruba.com/coverage/

Oh My Gosh!!  I just checked that out.. thanks for the link.
From what it says.. the yellow parts of that map say in car coverage..
I would thik if you can get coverage in a car.. that you would be also to get it in the same areas if you were walking ect.. IMO

LOL.as "Car Phone"..and this   Company only![/quote

Sandra.. so what you are saying that it is a phone that ONLY works in a car??  (Im having a blonde moment..LOL although I am brunette).
I know there are sevearl types of phones.. years ago I had a friend that had a BAG phone. only worked in her vehicle and that was it..!

[ExTexinAZ]

Absolut, I keep being "quoted" for things I didn't post!  Does this happen when people are replying to quotes in part and are not posting the entire sequence?

[dragonfly]

DF...can you please login to AIM and IM me at KerinA324?

Hmmmmm......maybe.....

[mojo]

from our friends as Hasibokos this afternoon...the last word? i doubt it

A.M.: "PvdS was never a judge" (Thursday)  A.M. Digital (@ Aruba.com) is reporting that Paul van der Sloot was never a judge in the Common Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. Hasibokos.com has  been following the Dutch, American and Aruban media and they all post conflicting stories with regard to the postition of Paul van der Sloot. A.M. reported today that they want to correct the false information that is constantly being published and aired, especially by the international (US) media, that Paul van der Sloot, father of Joran van der Sloot, is a judge in the Aruba jusicial system. A.M. reported that in 2003, Paul van der Sloot became a deputy judge as part of his formation to become a judge. As such he followed training as his wish was to one day become a Judge in the Common Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. He functioned as a deputy Judge, but always under supervision of an established Judge. Paul van der Sloot was a deputy judge until March 2004. In March 2004 Paul van der Sloot traveled to Holland for a year and when he returned to Aruba in March 2005 he did not receive the required recommendation to become a Judge. The results of his training in Holland were not sufficient to become a Judge, and he was notified by the President of the Common Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba that he cannot function as a judge and has to look for another function. A.M. finshed their bulletin with the following statement: 'We think that for the sake of correctness and objective news distribution, the media, and especially US media such as CNN and Fox News must stop sensacionalizing the entire Holloway drama and quit giving false information to the international public'

[KerinTX]

PoorPaula...can you please login to AOL and IM me at KerinA324?

You too Dragonfly.

Thanks!

[bogey_blusey_chaston]

Pretty good article about the case.  Sums up the way alot of people feel.

http://spaces.msn.com/members/AbleAdvocateDAN/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c

Shataken, I agree 110%. B

[gaijin]

WHERE is this quote from, is there a URL to the original?

Is it most logical to presume that this is a HOAX --- or, does it sound logical?

“Joran tells, however, the truth. He has left her behind on the beach. But was not that voluntary. She has been doped (drugged ) outside west left behind on the beach. Joran had to, as it happens, an appointment with Venezuelan drug Lord to supply them a blonde maid to serve as a sex slave in the underground world of Caracas. Joran had, as it happens, the necessary gokschulden and stood deeply in red ochre at the Venezuelan drug gangs. Speedboat, normally use to deliver coke on the island was now used to pick up the doped little girl. Our Natalee are alive but not so well in a sex cellar in caracas. Therefore I would advise the americans to look out there. In Venzuela come but few tourists of blonde type therefore it seem to me a rather simple matter to trace the lady there.”

Its on the front page. It is actually a from a girl from Curaca0 who is voicing an opinion of her cousins...

[littletxlady]

There is something that bothers me about Joran's dad calling him when the Twitty's and cops were at his house on the 31st. He said he called Joran and he was at the casino,so they all drove over to the Wyndham but you can't send or receive calls in a casino

[KerinTX]

There is something that bothers me about Joran's dad calling him when the Twitty's and cops were at his house on the 31st. He said he called Joran and he was at the casino,so they all drove over to the Wyndham but you can't send or receive calls in a casin o.

Little...can you please send me an IM through yahoo at Kerin324? Thanks!