Lively Case Discussion #658 7/15 - 7/17/2007

[Anna]

Does anyone know the date of the photo where Lorenzo appears in handcuffs with his mother and Art Wood confirms?

That could help determine if he was questioned more than once. I believe he was...

I think he was questioned on 6-16-17-2005 and 6-19-2005...

World Journier seems to be missing this or I missed it... prolly the later.

And on the 28th..I have my suspicions that he was questioned even earlier like the first week..

But this is the only one on record, right?  The only one requested by Dr Phil?

One witness was not a witness.  My thought is that this would be Lorenzo.

JMO, however, as always.

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[klaasend]

And so it begins  

tcumom
Monkey Junkey


Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: inner space cavern
 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject:      

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Well, that newspaper editor (I think) Julia ? is on Fox right now - saying the police were watching the 3 main suspects all those days before they were arrested.

[Observer]

I know that we can only believe part of these old posts but it is proven that some of these are facts. I wonder if this is true about Lorenzo having a history of killing Dogs? We know that Joran had also killed his own dog and we know of the mattress soaked with dogs blood. We saw the massive search led by the Dutch Marines following that find.

Lorenzo the crazy, scary guy with the spray painted house / blue van and the illegal afterhours parties - Lorenzo who was questioned but released because of an alibi provided by Babylonians who couldn’t be disbelieved due to the positions their parents hold in government - Lorenzo whose father committed suicide and who may have a history of killing dogs, is this right?

Comment by new girl | June 26, 2005, 10:17 pm

[mrs. red]

Walking down memory lane, it just occurred to me that we all thought Klaasend was a male in the beginning...

[IndyDan]

americaninaruba
Monkey Junkey


Joined: 14 Jun 2005
Location: Aruba
 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject:      

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HEARD THAT: Joran tried to commit suicide last night and police have him under careful watch....ok now before everyone starts HOGGING this ....we need to understand the pressure hes under and we DO NOT KNWOif he is guilty or not...so this can be a sign of 2 things:
1. hes guilty and watnsthis to end before we find out
2. hes NOT guilty and is just tireed of everyone focusing on him alone and not believing him.....
So please before we go off on this lets wait and see what happens

Door number one - He's guilty!

[Observer]

Does anyone know the date of the photo where Lorenzo appears in handcuffs with his mother and Art Wood confirms?

That could help determine if he was questioned more than once. I believe he was...

I think he was questioned on 6-16-17-2005 and 6-19-2005...

World Journier seems to be missing this or I missed it... prolly the later.

And on the 28th..I have my suspicions that he was questioned even earlier like the first week..

But this is the only one on record, right?  The only one requested by Dr Phil?

One witness was not a witness.  My thought is that this would be Lorenzo.

JMO, however, as always.

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It's the only one we have seen official records on... We havent seen phone records either but we know they exist. I am not sure why you argue so much about Lorenzo and I dont care. We all have our own opinions and I have done enough research for me to believe he was questioned several times.

[klaasend]

americaninaruba
Monkey Junkey


Joined: 14 Jun 2005
Location: Aruba
 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What does this say??    

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Detenido den caso Holloway lo a trata di
pone fin na su bida
ORANJESTAD—Un di e detenidonan den e caso di Natalee Holloway, lo a trata di
*one ofthe persons detained in the NH case have tried
pone fin na su bida. Esaki segun informe cu Bon Dia Aruba ta dispone di dje. E hoben lo
*to put and end to there life. This is based upon informatino that Bon Dia (thsi newspaper) has coem to understand

ta den un estado emocional hopi deprimi debi na e presion cu tin riba dje, y autoridadnan
*that he is in a very depressive state due to the pressure there is onhim

awor tin’e na bista, pa mira cu e no tuma un paso drastico contra su mes.
No ta conoci si a busca sosten psicologico pa e detenido aki, specialmente awor cu tur lo
*now they ahve him under watch so that he doesnt take any drastic measures against himslef.we dotnknow if there was a need for psycological help was given to the detainee especialy now that

mester keda traslada pa KIA.
* he has to be transfered to rpison (KIA)
Bon Dia Aruba lo sigui e caso aki di serca

[Tiger]

I would help search as long as somebody brought an A/C.

[Rob]

americaninaruba
Monkey Junkey


Joined: 14 Jun 2005
Location: Aruba
 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject:      

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HEARD THAT: Joran tried to commit suicide last night and police have him under careful watch....ok now before everyone starts HOGGING this ....we need to understand the pressure hes under and we DO NOT KNWOif he is guilty or not...so this can be a sign of 2 things:
1. hes guilty and watnsthis to end before we find out
2. hes NOT guilty and is just tireed of everyone focusing on him alone and not believing him.....
So please before we go off on this lets wait and see what happens

Three Aruba Suspects Going to Prison

Saturday, June 18, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — One of the three suspects being held in Aruba for the disappearance of an Alabama teen vacationing there has been moved from a jail to a prison, while the other two are expected to be transported today, two sources confirmed with FOX News.

A judge ruled last night that Deepak Kalpoe, who was moved to a prison last night, Satish Kalpoe and Joran van der Sloot can be held for eight more days while the investigation into Natalee Holloway's (search) disappearance continues.

Authorities on Friday arrested another person in connection with the disappearance of missing honors student, officials said.

On 6-20 the "Scared Monkeys” blog reported, “This is unconfirmed, but we received word that Joran is on a Suicide Watch after an unsuccessful attempted suicide last night. This should not be taken as an admission of guilt, but he has been moved to the main prison, a much tougher environment than the Police jail.”

[Artcolley]

Walking down memory lane, it just occurred to me that we all thought Klaasend was a male in the beginning...

Oh, that's right!!! I had forgotten that!

[klaasend]

Walking down memory lane, it just occurred to me that we all thought Klaasend was a male in the beginning...

 

[klaasend]

Regarding the attempted suicide by one of the suspects.

klaasend
Monkey Junkey


Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: "shakey" SoCal
 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject:      

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Ok, so WHAT IF?

1. This is much bigger than a drug overdose/rape gone bad.
2. That the thought of being released is as terrifying as being imprisoned.
3. That either way you would not survive so might as well end it now.
4. Maybe that decapitation WAS a warning.

[Anna]

Work to finish before the Bunkey!

Goodnight, all!

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[Rob]

I personally believe that someone spilled the beans on both Paulus and Lorenzo at the same time... that same very moment... only Lorenzo had an alibi .. Paulus was left on his own and was ARRESTED!

Someone has a big mouth and that person knows who was where when.

Deepak

yep... he tried to come clean and all is dark.  They shut him up real fast. Surprised he's not in a fish trap yet...

[Artcolley]

Regarding the attempted suicide by one of the suspects.

klaasend
Monkey Junkey


Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: "shakey" SoCal
 Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject:      

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Ok, so WHAT IF?

1. This is much bigger than a drug overdose/rape gone bad.
2. That the thought of being released is as terrifying as being imprisoned.
3. That either way you would not survive so might as well end it now.
4. Maybe that decapitation WAS a warning.

I've always felt that the decapitation was a warning.

[mrs. red]

Work to finish before the Bunkey!

Goodnight, all!

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Good night ANNA!!!  Dang you leave just as I finally get caught up!

[San]

I personally believe that someone spilled the beans on both Paulus and Lorenzo at the same time... that same very moment... only Lorenzo had an alibi .. Paulus was left on his own and was ARRESTED!

Someone has a big mouth and that person knows who was where when.

Deepak

yep... he tried to come clean and all is dark.  They shut him up real fast. Surprised he's not in a fish trap yet...

I don't think now is the time to put Deepak in his tuna can.  Give it time and he will be gone.  He is the one who named names (Freddy, Paulus, Sander, Koen).  I'm trying to figure out why he didn't name Guido but then again we haven't seen all the statements.

[Observer]

I personally believe that someone spilled the beans on both Paulus and Lorenzo at the same time... that same very moment... only Lorenzo had an alibi .. Paulus was left on his own and was ARRESTED!

Someone has a big mouth and that person knows who was where when.

Deepak

yep... he tried to come clean and all is dark.  They shut him up real fast. Surprised he's not in a fish trap yet...

Not a damn thing he can do about it either..When they asked Deepak why Joran said he raped and killed Natalee..His response was you would have to ask Joran.

[Artcolley]

Has Tibro been around lately? I am missing her!

And, of course, I miss Tylergal.

[Rob]

We all saw Joran's prison itinerary. That was NOT tuff. No reason to try to commit suicide unless some is trying to stick your left hand in your pocket...

hmmmm