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« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2007, 10:16:55 PM »

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Location: Aruba      Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject:    

DJ TAYLOR i think it really is him im tryign to ccll his cel now but no answer! do you think?? oh my goodness! I hope its not him!



Seems everyone knows Steve.
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« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2007, 10:17:46 PM »

You can dismiss any and all innuendo about Natalee's dad and the White House. Dave Holloway is an insurance agent and Jug is an assistant manager of a metal fabrication company. That stuff was just more alternative-cocaine-influenced reality from some hate-America-hate-Bush Aruban wannabe poster.
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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2007, 10:17:58 PM »

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DJ TAYLOR i think it really is him im tryign to ccll his cel now but no answer! do you think?? oh my goodness! I hope its not him!



Seems everyone knows Steve.


Yes Americaninaruba and DJTaylor both knew Steve Croes.  They were shocked when it turned out to be him detained.
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« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2007, 10:22:50 PM »

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DJTAYLOR, this was posted previously, so can you go run the video on FOXNEWS.COM and see if the Steve Croews there is the one you know?

To quote the previous post:

Foxnews.com in the video part for "4Th person arrested" does show a pic--not complete, but a pic of the 26 yr old man--very slender looking, dark hair.....
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2007, 10:23:40 PM »

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Hii Anna, good to see that everything is getting better with your son!


Thank you, SB,

Will just take time I suppose.  Bad day to have a wreck with surgery already scheduled and this being the only time he could take off from school to have it.

Lots of browsing through the new old archives going on I see.


Can't wait for the new forum.  Sounds exciting.

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« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2007, 10:24:28 PM »

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tarmand wrote:
Another Steve Croes in Aruba:

http://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~ensermo/mike/pages/alltogether.htm

Third Picture from the bottom on the right.

Also, I'm not saying that the websites I'm posting are for the right guy. I'm just looking for websites so that we can see them before they are removed - IF they belong the the arrested individual.



YES THATST HE ONE I KNOW! OH MY GOODNESS!
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« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2007, 10:28:15 PM »

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Location: Aruba      Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Steve   

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Now, is Steve the Dutch guy who works at the Marriot Beach son of the deceased car dealer? Or is that Lorenzo? This Steve does not look Dutch to me.



Steve is the one whe THINK is the S.D.C. taht was arrested this mornign at 6am.....me and DJTAYLOR suspect that its an old freind of ours......taht we knew from curacao.....when shelived tehir.......but we dont know if it s really him but al theclues match lets see well keeop you postde...he works ont he party boat Tattoo you can google it Tattoo Party
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Didn't we have a Curacao connection at some point?  Gosh, I wish my memory was better.  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2007, 10:32:42 PM »

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Didn't we have a Curacao connection at some point?  Gosh, I wish my memory was better.  Rolling Eyes


Yes... if I recall that is where his mom lives... remember she flew over to be with him?  I think she was even interviewed. For some reason I am also thinking that Steve's ex wife lives in Curacao also.  Not sure where that memory came from but these old posts are jogging some cob webs loose.   Laughing
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« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2007, 10:35:58 PM »

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Location: Aruba      Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: RUMOR CONTROL   

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NOW, WHAT IS HE, SON OF DECEASED BUSINESSMAN, OR SON OF POLITICIAN? magnumsgirl wrote:
This was posted on Free Republic site

"Chief Justice Rudy Croes
This is interesting....he has been on t.v. as a spokesman representing the Gov't investigation. Even interviewed by Geraldo."

Latest arrest - Father said to be a Gvt. official





Rudy has a 26 year old DAUGHTER that is married and lives in the US & 2 sons in Aua the oldest is 12yrs old
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« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2007, 10:39:15 PM »

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You can dismiss any and all innuendo about Natalee's dad and the White House. Dave Holloway is an insurance agent and Jug is an assistant manager of a metal fabrication company. That stuff was just more alternative-cocaine-influenced reality from some hate-America-hate-Bush Aruban wannabe poster.



What's left? Are they going to produce another crackhead witness that says a spaceship came down and picked her up on the beach right where Joran left her? They have pretty much exhausted the till.
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« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2007, 10:40:18 PM »

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Steve is the type that could use some extra cash I am sure to help out..He seems to be around Lorenzo's age as well..I'm sure that guy knows most everyone in Aruba but he seems old to be hangin around the PIMPS. Although we know deepak knew him and seemed to know him well..


Steve Croes was TOLD to provide that alibi for Deepak and others.  Lorenzo knew enough on this guy, after all, he most likely had the drug connections with Lorenzo as supplier.  JMO

I agree with that since SGC and LVR are both 28 yrs old. That or he was called by Deepak. I'M not convinced that the Van Der Sloots knew Steve Croes. Joran was just a 17 yr old kid and if he knew SGC it had to be through Deepak or LVR
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« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2007, 10:43:59 PM »

Now this post is interesting...

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From The Riehl World:

"I am a clerk at the station down here.. Steve Cruze's criminal file shows detailed history of assault/battery charges against women (and one unlawful touching) all of them dropped though with help of a clever Aruban lawyer, Barton Van Tripp. His family is very wealthy, owns the newspaper down here.. these three guys were 'runners' for Cruze so maybe that's why they aren't singing."
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« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2007, 10:45:02 PM »

Anna,I am glad the family is getting better,son isn't.The spaceship came by earlier,and it did not have anyone,but Tom C.Several great Plaugues,hmm.Earthquakes,TB,Dengue fever,etc/Hmm  Croes children live where?
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« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2007, 10:46:46 PM »

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iquitos wrote:

Rudy has a 26 year old DAUGHTER that is married and lives in the US & 2 sons in Aua the oldest is 12yrs old


I thought Paulus said in a interview he was at the residence of Rudy Croes to teach his daughter..I guess its possible she was in from the U.S. and wanted to learn something from PVDS about dutch law.. Confused No doubt in my mind that PVDS knew him well and Rudy pulled alot of strings in this coverup.
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« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2007, 10:48:46 PM »

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      Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: "5th person" = an apparent witness   

"5th person" = an apparent witness

VIDEO: FOX News

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.html?061705/usworld_aruba_061705&FNL&Fourth%20Person%20Held%20in%20Disappearance&acc&U.S.%20%26%20World&-1&new
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« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2007, 10:49:09 PM »

Why the US.Oh,I am sorry to keep her safe from pimps.
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« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2007, 10:53:11 PM »

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Now this post is interesting...

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From The Riehl World:

"I am a clerk at the station down here.. Steve Cruze's criminal file shows detailed history of assault/battery charges against women (and one unlawful touching) all of them dropped though with help of a clever Aruban lawyer, Barton Van Tripp. His family is very wealthy, owns the newspaper down here.. these three guys were 'runners' for Cruze so maybe that's why they aren't singing."



Woah! That last line is a killer. Maybe DEA was in on the gang before NH got there.
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« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2007, 10:53:14 PM »

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iquitos wrote:

Rudy has a 26 year old DAUGHTER that is married and lives in the US & 2 sons in Aua the oldest is 12yrs old


I thought Paulus said in a interview he was at the residence of Rudy Croes to teach his daughter..I guess its possible she was in from the U.S. and wanted to learn something from PVDS about dutch law.. Confused No doubt in my mind that PVDS knew him well and Rudy pulled alot of strings in this coverup.

Rudy's daughter is the same age as Lorenzo and Steve.

I agree Rudy pulled a lot of strings and made a verbal threat to a grieving mom saying he was going to shut her up.
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« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2007, 10:54:16 PM »

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CaliGirl wrote:
Lorenzo? I could be wrong but wasn't there an interview O'Reily did a former friend of Joran's last name Lorenzo? I will have to go check btu I swear I saw it last night in some notes on his transcript interviews?? ANyone know?



I don't know if his name is Lorenzo or not...
But from the very beginning "the son of an ex Vwagen dealer" was somehow involved..... He was the first one mentioned..



Now for those who may know who Native Lingo is...this makes sense that she (yes I said she) would have access to know Lorenzo was mentioned from the very beginning.
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« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2007, 10:56:15 PM »

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I am almost speachless if this is a fact!! Shows how much they were playing everybody when he came up with that fake alibi!!!

It could have been freddy or someone else at that house at 6:30 AM if the call was made at the VDS home.



Truth is coming out, that's why the Slooters are freaking out and telling wild stories right now. Something will happen before Beth's book comes out IMO. They have to or they will suffer tremendous embarassment.


Has anyone else pre-ordered Beth's book?  I ordered mine three days ago along with the other one "For Natalie, a Community of Love"
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