Lively Case Discussion #660 7/19 - 7/20/2007

[mrs. red]

I once again have to agree with you OS... i see things a tad bit differently...


I have NEVER ever seen BOR preface a story so many times with "we cannot confirm", "there is no solid proof" etc...

and then Geraldo drove a further nail into the tourism after he admitted that the tourism had taken a huge hit and goes onto say that Aruba makes Vegas look tame... that drugs are rampant etc... no parent is sending their child into that....

I think it was an attempt to float a story for plausability... and it didn't make the RUs happy that they hammered home the fact thta Joran was guilty....

Geraldo did say the word murder... I think....

It wasn't the story I thought it should be ... but I don't know that they did any favors to the island and the guilty little "delicioius sporter"...

[Tamikosmom]

In this country the distribution of illicit drugs that result in the death of another is considered murder.  Dumping the body in the ocean would only prove intent.

What is going on with this chit?  Fox invest in a casino in Aruba?

I do not get Fox so I did not hear all that was said but ... I believe a drug overdose is a real possibility. When you consider that somebody at the VDS residence was searching the web on the topic of drug overdoses on the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing. However ... the reason that assistance was not requested and the body disposed was because of what was being done to Natalee's person prior to her death. Remember what Deepak said in the police van recordings.  Then there is Satish's  statement where he asked his brother the next morning ... How's the girl?  Even Dompig concedes in the 48 hour interview that Natalee may have died from drugs "given" to her by the suspects.

The fact that there were so many witness who observed Natalee leave with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers implies that the intention was never to kill Natalee.

However ... I agree with Klaas.  I do believe that Lorenzo told all.

Janet
 

Gerold Dompig
48 HOURS
March 22, 2006

"We feel strongly that she probably went into shock or something happened to her system with all this alcohol maybe on top of that other drugs which either she took or they gave her and that she just collapsed," says Dompig.

[sharon]

Hello Monkeys! If this were the truth, it would be on every channel. Someone (Julia or Dompig) twisted Bill's leg and he bought it.

I don't think so. I don't think Julia or Dompig would implicate Joran...

Would Lorenzo?

g

IMO, the timing is NOT a coincidence

[Observer]

LOL!! Damnit Klaas beat me again!!!

[carpe noctem]

Hi guys....


here tiz


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KiYrcNm7uxk

[mrs. red]

The reason why JVDS and Kalpoes disposed of Natalee's body was not because of a cocaine overdose and fear they would find cocaine in her body, it was the fear an autopsy would should other things that happened to her body, ie a sexual assault.

It makes ZERO sense that anyone would go out of their way to hide a body because a teenager that no one knew OD'd. ZERO. If they left her where she supposedly (According to BOR) OD'd, she would have been found, the autopsy would have revealed why and it would have been a simple case of a teen partying too hard.

BOR's theory almost makes some hate site's theories of NH running away look sane. Almost I said.

actually it's why he kept saying no proof.... IMO.. he knows that is a stupid ass thing to say.

[Buckeye]

Geraldo used the word "homicide".  The scenario doesn't fit the word, but I heard him use the word.

[klaasend]

Medleyrelay isn't happy:

M***R Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:33 pm    

OMG is right what the heck is that all about - lordy they should both get their asses sued big time. Joe Hope you caught that - since the early days nothing has been more disgusting. I have always disliked both of those clowns and never more than tonite!!!!  







M***R Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:52 pm    

I think that they are just getting the stories mixed up here. They are taking what probably did happen - drugs and whisking her off on the private jet - and have to still stick to the same old ORIGINAL perpetrators - that BS crap of Beths. so they indeed probably do have what happened to Natalee correct but feel like they still have to blame it on J2K.

Which of course makes BOR and Geraldo seem to appear just incredibly brilliant with their big inside source. Yes I smell a Globe article very soon -

and yes SandraK tell your husband I am mad as hell!!!!!!!  

[nonesuche]

Hi guys....


here tiz


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KiYrcNm7uxk

Thank you Carpe, I couldn't stop work to watch it going now

[blah]

I think the old email addresses were

geraldo@foxnews.com

And

oreilly@foxnews.com

this is correct for oreilly, i dont know about geraldo

[blah]

I once again have to agree with you OS... i see things a tad bit differently...


I have NEVER ever seen BOR preface a story so many times with "we cannot confirm", "there is no solid proof" etc...

and then Geraldo drove a further nail into the tourism after he admitted that the tourism had taken a huge hit and goes onto say that Aruba makes Vegas look tame... that drugs are rampant etc... no parent is sending their child into that....

I think it was an attempt to float a story for plausability... and it didn't make the RUs happy that they hammered home the fact thta Joran was guilty....

Geraldo did say the word murder... I think....

It wasn't the story I thought it should be ... but I don't know that they did any favors to the island and the guilty little "delicioius sporter"...

he said homicide

[klaasend]

The reason why JVDS and Kalpoes disposed of Natalee's body was not because of a cocaine overdose and fear they would find cocaine in her body, it was the fear an autopsy would should other things that happened to her body, ie a sexual assault.

It makes ZERO sense that anyone would go out of their way to hide a body because a teenager that no one knew OD'd. ZERO. If they left her where she supposedly (According to BOR) OD'd, she would have been found, the autopsy would have revealed why and it would have been a simple case of a teen partying too hard.

BOR's theory almost makes some hate site's theories of NH running away look sane. Almost I said.

RED - they must be affraid TES will find Natalee's body.  They have to come up with an answer.  Saying Natalee used cocaine willingly with Joran fits their purposes.  That way Joran will get off with time served, afterall..all he did was lie.  

[Red]

The reason why JVDS and Kalpoes disposed of Natalee's body was not because of a cocaine overdose and fear they would find cocaine in her body, it was the fear an autopsy would should other things that happened to her body, ie a sexual assault.

It makes ZERO sense that anyone would go out of their way to hide a body because a teenager that no one knew OD'd. ZERO. If they left her where she supposedly (According to BOR) OD'd, she would have been found, the autopsy would have revealed why and it would have been a simple case of a teen partying too hard.

BOR's theory almost makes some hate site's theories of NH running away look sane. Almost I said.

if she was OD'ing by her own free will, all they had to do was dump her at an emergency room - problem solved.

Any idiot that believes this nonesense does not belong having their own "news show" and I use that term very loosely with these jerkoffs

If it happened like this, they would not have brought her to an emergency room. That would have implicated them because people saw her drive off with them. However, if someone was just found on the beach dead, no one would know how or where they received the drugs because as everyone knows, Aruba is a cesspool of drugs.

The fact is that one disposes a body when they have something to hide ... ie THEY KILLED THEM!

How many cases have we covered in 2+ years where the reason why a body is hid in the woods, dumped in the water or burned was to cover up a crime.

Everywhere, except in Aruba. Geraldo go pound sand.

[IndyDan]

The reason why JVDS and Kalpoes disposed of Natalee's body was not because of a cocaine overdose and fear they would find cocaine in her body, it was the fear an autopsy would should other things that happened to her body, ie a sexual assault.

It makes ZERO sense that anyone would go out of their way to hide a body because a teenager that no one knew OD'd. ZERO. If they left her where she supposedly (According to BOR) OD'd, she would have been found, the autopsy would have revealed why and it would have been a simple case of a teen partying too hard.

BOR's theory almost makes some hate site's theories of NH running away look sane. Almost I said.

if she was OD'ing by her own free will, all they had to do was dump her at an emergency room - problem solved.

Any idiot that believes this nonesense does not belong having their own "news show" and I use that term very loosely with these jerkoffs

No shit - drop off the cokeheaded druggy at a hospital and be the good guy.  No one is buying that yard of crap.

[oldfart]

Hi guys....


here tiz


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KiYrcNm7uxk

Capre... We have got to get you a better title than Monkey Junkey



Aruba tourism  is down..   . Geraldo why  you lie  

[Observer]

I think the old email addresses were

geraldo@foxnews.com

And

oreilly@foxnews.com

this is correct for oreilly, i dont know about geraldo

Everyone write them!! Enormously credible source??WTF!!!!!

[sb]

I DO see this as an attempt to distance Joran from wrongdoing. He is not the coke dealer- Lorenzo is. Ergo, make it look like an OD on coke and "someoneotherthanJoran" did it.

JUST THE WAY THE DUTCH WANT IT TO LOOK.  

[Easywriter]

American teen overdoses, found lifeless on beach...  End of story!  Even if sexual assault had occurred it would have been explained away and all the islanders would have gone on with their routines.

"Heavy battery" took place at some point and that made it impossible to dismiss as a party gone bad.

[Elaine]

Medleyrelay isn't happy:

M***R Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:33 pm    

OMG is right what the heck is that all about - lordy they should both get their asses sued big time. Joe Hope you caught that - since the early days nothing has been more disgusting. I have always disliked both of those clowns and never more than tonite!!!!  







M***R Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:52 pm    

I think that they are just getting the stories mixed up here. They are taking what probably did happen - drugs and whisking her off on the private jet - and have to still stick to the same old ORIGINAL perpetrators - that BS crap of Beths. so they indeed probably do have what happened to Natalee correct but feel like they still have to blame it on J2K.

Which of course makes BOR and Geraldo seem to appear just incredibly brilliant with their big inside source. Yes I smell a Globe article very soon -

and yes SandraK tell your husband I am mad as hell!!!!!!!  

ROFLMFAO!!

[mrs. red]

Hi guys....


here tiz


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KiYrcNm7uxk

thank you Carpe... did you notice that Heli left out Geraldo's usage of the word

HOMICIDE..... LISTEN AGAIN HE USED THE WORD HOMICIDE...