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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2006, 11:25:46 AM »

OM arrests witness – Amigoe.com 11/29/2005

ARUBA – The Public Prosecutor (OM) arrested a witness that testified for a suspect that supposedly was involved in a shooting. The OM suspects the witness of perjury. The district attorney didn’t believe the statement and had the 18-year old man arrested during the hearing.

The shooting took place during a party near hotel La Cabana in the night of April 30th. It was a problem between two gangs, Dakota and Madiki. Dakota accuses the 20-year old E.F. from Madiki of the shooting. F.’s lawyer subpoenaed two friends to witness. One of them, the 18-year old D. de la C. declared that he left at 03:30 and didn’t hear any shots. He also declared that his friend F. had left one hour before him. The district attorney didn’t believe De la C., because other people have told the police that they have seen him at the location during the shooting. There is a punishment of at least 3 months imprisonment for perjury.

The case will continue on December 9th and more witnesses are subpoenaed to testify

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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2006, 11:20:23 AM »

Posted on LCD by dkpen 8/21/2006, from an Aruba msg board archive:

Security Guard Down

Friday, July 30th, 2004, 02:06 PM
Does anyone know what happend to a LaCabana Security Guard on Wedn, July 14? My family and I were crossing the street to catch the bus for Oranjestad, and there was a Security Guard lying on the edge of the Sand near the street. Everyone was hovering around him. Then came the ambulance to take him away to the hospital. What happend?
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2006, 09:05:11 PM »

Posted by SunnyInTx 8/22/2006 on LCD, brought over from RU:

Another Attempted Rape Case On Aruba

From 8/22/06 Diario


Short and sweet

A 36 ye old British woman with the B.J.L.B. reported an attempted "violation" upon her person at about 8:15 am Monday morning by a man of 5' 9" height, grey eyes and brown hair. The woman was able to fight off the purported attacker and told the police that in the struggle she had marked the mans face with scratches.
THIS IS REPORTED TO HAVE OCCURED IN THE AREA OF THE FISHERMAN HUTS.

Diario is calling on the people at the High Rise hotel - some who claim to have heard and or seen the attack to come forward with information to avoid another story that could harm tourism.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2006, 10:31:37 PM »

Mortella wrote (FP post 8/22/2006; emphasis added; thanks Mortella):

Six documented murders in Aruba in twelve months following Natalee Holloway’s disappearance. This in a population of approximately 100,000 being generous. These have to be gleaned from the local Aruban newspapers as there is no available reliable information on crime rates. Just saying they have none does NOT make it so. The dead speak for themselves.

http://tinyurl.com/fx4ez

In the U.S. the rate per 100,000 is 4.5. This means despite the hype, the murder rate in Aruba is higher than in the U.S. I believe if taken on a per capita basis, other violent crimes may also be higher but who has time to compile this information normally provided by reliable local sources.

Very interesting that Arubans continue to insist there is no crime there when their newspapers scream of it daily. Just how stupid do they think we are? Don’t even answer that, is rhetorical but we all know VERY!

So Aruba in fact has a higher murder rate than is found in the evil old U.S. of A. but they lie about it to deceive tourist. I think this is something that should be brought to the attention of our Department of State for releasing fictitious murder rates is considered very serious offense. It will bring on a travel warning faster than the actual crimes for who knows what is going on if they are in fact lying about it. That would certainly appear to be the case based on the number of documented in their local papers.

Six is only the number some have been able to find so the actual number is likely far higher but given the language barrier, this is all their search has found so far. Imagine if they could speak Papiamento what they might find. And, no, there is no mistake as the articles related to these six murders have been accurately translated to be certain that is what the articles in fact report. Let’s hope forum poster Msmarple keeps up the good work and continues to compile her statistics. They just may prove very useful in some way. At least we will know the truth and can warn unsuspecting tourist of the reality of the crime situation in Aruba. It is nothing like what is portrayed by the locals and the tourist industry and for very good reason.

Does anybody tell the truth about anything in Aruba? They surely don’t about the crime rate
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2006, 10:36:16 PM »

What about the 20-something young man found floating off shore soon after the unidentified dead female in the trash pile?  I believe this was reported in Diario.
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2006, 10:38:52 PM »

Quote from: "lexie"
What about the 20-something young man found floating off shore soon after the unidentified dead female in the trash pile?  I believe this was reported in Diario.


Lexie - Can you find any other info about this? Thank you for keeping an eye out ...
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2006, 03:17:30 AM »

Anna - I hope you see this ... USAToday travel writer David Grossman makes a tiny concession to our badgering  Laughing

http://tinyurl.com/edk6u

Editor's note: A previous version of this column cited an incorrect statistic concerning the murder rate in Aruba.

That's all - doesn't venture into the murkey territory of what that statistic might be ...
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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2006, 03:51:52 AM »

Whoa. Don't know the year; will try to look into this at a saner time ...

http://tinyurl.com/khue2

BULGARIA-PRESS-MARCH 22

The dailies publish more details on the murder in Aruba of Poli
Pantev, boss of the SIC insurance company.  His body will be flown to
Sofia on Thursday.

      Pantev was planning to have plastic surgery and live under an
assumed identity on the island, "Troud" says, quoting a source close
to the police in Aruba.  He tried to con the international cocaine
Mafia by stealing 500 kg of the drug and selling it dirt cheap.

      Once the body is in Sofia, DNA testing will show if it is
really Pantev, "Monitor" says.  A detective told the daily from Aruba
that there are suspects but no one has been arrested.


      There is only one Bulgarian living on the island, the
international relations department said, without naming names.
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2006, 04:20:49 AM »

More on the Bulgarian ... I think the year is 2001.

Pantyu Pantev, a Bulgarian who was recently killed in the Aruba
island, was a spy and his murder was contracted by his girl friend,
"Troud" says.  Pantev was shot to death in a local hotel.  According
to one of the theories, he was killed because he owed money.  Two
persons have been questioned in the case, "24 Chassa" writes.  Both
dailies refer to their correspondents sent to Aruba.

http://tinyurl.com/hbduc

When the Happy Island talks about ONE MURDER IN 20 YEARS - I'll bet this is the one.
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2006, 04:32:12 PM »

MsMarple--That retraction is NOT acceptable!  I will contact his boss and also ask for the name of the Ombudsman for the paper.

Now this is just posted on the increasingly popular Front Page  Cool  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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I am not certain if this death occurred in Aruba or Curacao but believe this came from the Amigoe English version newspaper.  Not even priests are safe in their own beds sleeping in the Netherland Antilles!  Despite hands being bound which usually connotes a suicide in Aruba, they seem to have to admit to foul play in this one.

>Autopsy Father Montoya revealed suffocation

CURACAO – Autopsy has revealed this morning that Father Alejandro Montoya of the Bonam Church died from suffocation. That is definitely a crime and there are no suspects yet.

In the interest of the investigation, the authorities do not want to release any details, only that they are going all-out on solving this case. “We are on top of it. You better believe it”, said police commissioner Marlon Wernet. “And all tips from the community are extremely welcome. It doesn’t matter how little the information is.”

Montoya was found in his bed under a blanket yesterday morning, with a pillow next to his head, his hands tied up and his mouth taped up, even though the latter is not confirmed nor denied. The police found several tracks that are now being analyzed. The assault itself had probably taken place in the evening. Shortly after the body was found, the police also found Montoya’s car on Seru Cocori and confiscated it for investigation of the tracks. The authorities released Montoya’s body after the autopsy. There will be a memorial service for him this coming Saturday. The body will afterwards be flown to his native country Colombia to be buried.

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Thanks to Katablog for posting that!  Hope it helps with your ever increasing stats.

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Anna and Mrsmarples - thank you for creating and keeping this thread updated!

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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2006, 06:50:20 AM »

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The Bulgarian was shot in an elevator March 9 2001, Sonesta Hotel in "Orangecity" Aruba. Security camera captured the killing; gunman was "Latin American" in his late 20s. Poli Pantev had dual citizenship, Argentinean and Bulgarian.

Disposition of the case - can't find any information. From all reports I found, appears to have been drug related.
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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2006, 10:01:44 AM »

Posted by sharon on LCD, 8/25/2006, from "this morning's Amigoe" --

Information request on attackers

ARUBA – The police is asking witnesses to come forward and help with tracking the two men down that attacked a woman in Wayaca last Monday, demanding her to give them her husband’s gun, who is a police officer.

The assault took place between 14:40 and 15:00. The men broke into the house, put a knife to the woman’s throat and asked her for her husband’s gun. The woman said that she didn’t know where her husband keeps his gun. The attackers finally left with a golden necklace, two ear-rings, and a white mobile telephone. According to the information the police gave, the attackers were two Latin American men, slim, and were about 1.80 to 1.85 meters tall. Both were dressed in jeans and the one wore a white shirt and the other a green. One of the attackers has black shoulder length hair and the other is bold. They fled in the direction of Santa Martha, one on foot and the other on a silver coloured mountain bike. Anybody that has more information on these two, please get in contact with the police.

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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2006, 02:20:34 AM »

Posted by Pita on LCD Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:17 pm    

Yesenia Castillo is being held in KIA for the murder of Rene Van Heynigen.
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2006, 11:05:30 AM »

Found this info & thought you may be interested

http://tinyurl.com/s45u8

per member request here is a better layout of previous info for readibility, and thanks to LucyT for the reconstruction

This is a little long, but every member here should read this and integrate into their own thoughts and opinions:

In 1996 an AMERICAN woman tourist was shot and murdered by two robbers while in ARUBA.

On April 19, 2006 user identity “momja” of the “Blogs for Natalee” wrote*: Read this from ABC33/40 in Birmingham Aruba: More Women Speak Out "My heart aches for Natalee and her family.

I've known from the minute Natalee was announced missing on the TV, exactly what happened to her.

I have been in touch with the FBI, and they have my statement. I have been to Aruba 3 times, and the last time was HORRIBLE. In 1996, I went with my husband and 4 friends.

We stayed at the same hotel Natalee stayed at. My husband and I were both drugged, taken from the hotel casino.

My husband was locked in a back room of the bar The Rio Grande, I was taken out to the desert, and didnt come out of the black out until the next morning.

I had been raped and beaten. I was fortunate enough to talk my way out of the situation, promising I wouldn’t go to the police.

When I got back to my hotel, my husband and a friend did go to the police station..........it is just like you've seen on the TV for the Holloway-Twitty family.

They did NOTHING to help us at all. Even with the police knowing, that the casino-workers and the Commissioner of the casino had a problem with the 'man', and were also willing to help my husband and I.

On 2-6-98 an Italian boy, GIANNI FERRARA, was kidnapped in ARUBA then taken off the island to VENEZUELA

without his kidnapping nor his transportation to VENEZUELA ever being detected by any ARUBAN authorities.

FERRARA was forcibly freed on 4-22-98, and 38 people were arrested. 3-24-98

On 3-24-98 another AMERICAN, AMY LYNN BRADLEY, vanished

from on board the “Royal Caribbean Lines” cruise ship the “Rhapsody of the Seas” enroute to WILLEMSTAD, CURACAO

after being docked in ORANJESTAD, ARUBA

and AMY was propositioned by some men to go with them to “Carlos “N Charlies.”

(both CURACAO and ARUBA are islands belonging to the NETHERLAND ANTILLES)

If you have any helpful information, please contact the Hot line: (804) 276-8503, the F.B.I.: (804) 777-3363, Relatives Main Line: (804) 276-2204, Fax: (804) 745-6133, Primary E-mail: Teamamy@hotmail.com 6-9-99

On June 9, 1999 an AMERICAN, WILLIARD “Bud” LARSON, vanished while vacationing in ARUBA.

Last known location: “Windsurf Village board shop” in ARUBA‘s west beach….

If you have any helpful information with respect to LARSON, please, email his parents at Larsoncrew13@verizon.net 12-24-01

On June 6, 2005 BOSTON, MASSACHUSSETTS “ABC” TV channel 5 “WCVB” reported:

Woman Claims Rape Where Missing Teen Was Last Seen In Aruba

BOSTON -- With its year-round warmth and nearly rain-free climate, Aruba has become a vacation oasis for thousands of Massachusetts’s residents.

But in recent days, a dark side has emerged. NewsCenter 5's Amalia Barreda reported that a local woman said she was raped after leaving the same bar in Aruba where missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway was last seen.

"Aruba is not as safe as the commercials make it out to be," said Marie, who withheld her last name.

Marie said she made four trips to Aruba with friends and believed the island was safe.

That's why she had no qualms about traveling there alone for Christmas 2001. She stayed at the same Holiday Inn where Holloway and her high school classmates booked their rooms.

On Christmas Eve, Marie said she went to Carlos 'N Charlie's, the same bar where the missing Alabama teen was last seen.

When she left, Marie said a man pulled her into his car, drove away and raped her.

"As I was being pulled into vehicle, screams came out of me that I couldn't imagine ever coming out of me of me and people did nothing," said Marie.

1-29-02 An AMERICAN, GARY MAKINGS, was last seen in ARUBA on January 29, 2002

He was staying at the “Arubahouse,” and was last seen when he left to go snorkeling. If you have any helpful information, please contact travismakings@yahoo.com

On June 7, 2005 BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS “ABC” TV channel 5 “WCVB” reported:

Local Woman Recalls Alleged Assault In Aruba North Shore Resident Says Hotel Worker Took Advantage Of Her

BOSTON -- The search for the missing Alabama teenager on the island of Aruba has prompted another Massachusetts’s woman to come forward with a story of a vacation gone horribly wrong. NewsCenter 5's Jack Harper reported that police and F.B.I. agents have scaled back the search for Natalee Holloway.

On Monday, more than 700 volunteers combed the island looking for any sign of the 18-year-old girl. Two men have been charged in connection with her disappearance.

A common thread links the Holloway case to a pair of Massachusetts women who say they were sexually assaulted on the island after leaving the popular nightclub called Carlos and Charlie's.

The North Shore woman, who does not want to be identified, said that she came forward with her story as a warning to others.

She said that two years ago in Aruba [2003], she befriended a hotel worker, who she says turned against her.

"On my last night there, I decided to go out on a date with him. I thought it would just be a friendly, harmless affair, and it turned out to be a disaster," she said.

"He took me to the local bar in Aruba, Carlos and Charlie's. He bought me drinks, and after we left the bar, he proceeded to take me to a parking lot where he assaulted me."

The North Shore woman believes that some hotel workers are using their positions to take advantage of young girls. "I guess I wasn't thinking and I felt like I was safe with this person.

He seemed friendly, and I thought it would just be an innocent date -- you know, go out dancing. I really didn’t think such a tragedy would happen," she said. "A lot of locals go there at night just for fun.

A lot of American girls go there and party and they even have a stage there where the young girls, they get them drunk, and they get up on stage and they start doing foolish things that they probably never would do at home. They are under the influence and they are on vacation."

The woman did not tell police at the time of the alleged assault. "After this happened, I wish that I did come forward because this could have been one of the people that harmed this young girl," she said.

On July 12, 2005 identity “clevfan” of “Major Wager.com” reported: I know this is hearsay, but interesting story from a girl in Aruba regarding Joran:

Anyway, remember John Merryweather, evil incarnate and my mom's cousin? He has a son, named Herbert (Herbie) Merryweather. Herbert is married and has a son, but I don't know his name.

The mother of this son came to talk to my mom day before yesterday and it turns out that her son is a classmate of Joran's. So, got it, grandson Merryweather is Joran's classmate.

Turns out that that grandson and mom had a major clash with Joran some time before, because Joran accused grandson of killing Joran's dog and throwing it in Moko Dam (place where TX ES also searched), however, the mother threatened to go the cops to make a complaint against Joran,

and the Joran confessed to killing his own dog.

**** I'm not kidding. Not even a little bit. Also, the morning after NH disappeared [May 30, 2005], Joran came with a big bruise on his face and was sleeping in class and could only be woken up when he was pelted with (note?)books.

On June 16, 2005 Steve Huff reported that Prime Suspect J. SLOOT had a romantic involvement with a 7th grade girl of only 14 years old until her parents learned of the relationship and made their daughter break off the relationship in March, 2005.

http://members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html

Over the past 8 years dozens of young men and women have been raped and murdered or disappeared,

but there is no record of one instance of a single arrest followed by prosecution.

There is no record of any arrests other than in the Natalee Holloway case, where the perpetrators are free, attending school, playing golf, and having a regular good old time living the Aruban life.

In the case of the Italian boy, Gianni Ferrara, 38 arrests and following convictions occurred in Venzeuala, although the crime began on Aruba with the kidnaping.

Aruba is a paradise for the raping youth and men of the island (and for those who remember Texcat, she provided me very, very early on with

island rape mentality facts that stretched all the way from the Carribean to Australia and even Pitcairn Island--ancestors of those on the HMS Bounty--where it is an island tradition welcoming young girls into what life as a young woman will be all about.)

For any kind of sexual deviant, Aruba is the place where all the comforts of a perv’s best wet dreams can occur jail free. That would make it a lot like Amsterdam, Holland. Oh, that’s right, that’s where the Vander Sloots are from



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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2006, 12:43:05 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2006, 02:17:51 PM »

Found thus far in 2006:

Local female attacked by men wanting her husband’s gun (he’s a polis officer)

Tourist female rape attempt

Local 16-yr-old female gang-raped (on cell phone video) at school; tape is on internet; parents not filing charges

Tourist female “bothered” by “false polis” wanting sex

Male corpse in water

Female corpse in trash pile

Local male murdered (machete in restaurant) (local)

Local male murdered (assuming Pitbull was murdered)


Found thus far in 2005:US ex-pat H-D mechanic ruled a suicide

3 locals ruled suicides

Local female stabbed by boyfriend

Local drug addict shot

Local man partially decapitated allegedly by wife or “companion”

7-yr-old boy’s body recovered (taped by Aru-Bay)

Local “rastaman” stabbed on beach

Natalee Holloway disappeared after leaving C&Cs with 3 locals

Local male murdered near La Cabana

Brazilian male murdered by another Brazilian
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2006, 10:05:12 PM »

Okay, here's where we're trying to go. Just emailed this:

The Honorable Robert E. Sorenson
Consul General
P.O. Box 158
J.B. Gorsiraweg 1
Curaçao – The Netherlands Antilles

Re.: Murder and Violent Crime on Aruba

Dear Mr. Sorenson:

I wrote to you on August 11, 2006 (regular mail to the above address). I want to boost my case by providing more information. As mentioned in the letter, I am recording violent incidents reported in non-English publications on Aruba.

(This is not easy. I don't speak Spanish, Dutch, or Papiamento.)

I've attached a Word document that provides details for most incidents. You can also go to the following link, which is an internet forum page that focuses on Murder & Crime on Aruba. I am "msmarple" there; most translations come from this resource:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=188&start=0

Found thus far in 2006:

Local female attacked by men wanting her husband’s gun (he’s a police officer)

Tourist female rape attempt

Local 16-yr-old female gang-raped at school; cell phone video placed on internet; parents not filing charges (?!?)

Tourist female bothered by “false police” wanting sex

Male corpse in water

Female corpse in trash pile

Local male murdered (with a machete in restaurant)

Local male murdered (assuming murdered - he was crucified, burned, otherwise mutilated, and overdosed)

Found thus far in 2005:

US ex-pat Harley-Davidson mechanic ruled a suicide

3 locals ruled suicides (including 2 security guards who separately jumped from the same building)

Local female stabbed by boyfriend

Local drug addict shot

Local man partially decapitated allegedly by wife or “companion”

7-yr-old boy’s body recovered (dug up from dunes/rocky area; taped by Aru-Bay 6/2005). An extremely odd incident.

Local “Rasta man” stabbed a local on beach

Natalee Holloway disappeared after leaving C&C's with 3 locals

Local male murdered near La Cabana

Brazilian male murdered by another Brazilian


We have less information for previous years, but are including all cases that we find. Of course we weren't pouring over Aruba publications until recently.

Mr. Sorenson, this starkly represents a difference between what is published for the sake of tourism, and what the reality is on the ground. "One murder in 20 years!" Or, "2.4 murders per year!" From the above list, there were at least six murders in 2005; at least three so far in 2006.

However, my intent is not to wrestle about the crime rate, but to emphasize that  island officials are deliberately obscuring Aruba's crime statistics -- so that the tourists will keep coming.

An overwhelming number of these tourists are from the United States. We have the right to accurate information as we make our out-of-country travel decisions. The State Department is tasked with providing that information - as opposed to echoing local, skewed tourist industry figures.

I submit that manipulation of crime statistics is a serious problem for travelers considering Aruba - one that deserves as stern a travel warning as the U.S. State Department can provide.

Please visit both the internet site, and the attached document.

Thank you so much for your time.

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Senator Richard Shelby (Alabama)
David Wilkison, Associated Press Bureau Chief, District of Columbia U.S.
David Grossman, USAToday Travel Columnist
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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2006, 10:25:08 PM »

Posted by msmarple on LCD thread 8/27/2006:

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msmarple - and everyone else who contributed to that [Murder & Crime] thread, excellent job!



Yes - thanks to all who have posted these incidents. I just know there are more ...

I hope we have opened THE can of worms.
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« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2006, 05:37:03 AM »

Thanks mrs. red and San for bringing this one up again --

Tracey Allen, U.S. tourist, attempted assault

“Nine days” before Holloway disappearance, she was walking just after dawn near Fisherman’s Huts. (She has a time share at the Marriott.)  A man wearing only a shirt tried to drag her into his car, which was running. She reported it to the police, gave a description and license number. Never heard back from them. When she heard (re. the Holloway case) that NH had been left near the Fisherman's Huts, she contacted FBI. On March 12, 2006, she went on Fox Big Story (Rita Cosby).

http://tinyurl.com/o8h5l --
Rita: You go to the aruban authorities and you don't get any calls back from ALE?

Tracy: No, first time I was contacted the FBI took my statement and didn't contact me again until December 2 when I did the sketch

Rita: This is the sketch you contributed to ALE..is this a local guy do you think?

Tracy: I believe he was local, he had an older car, not like a newer rental car that a tourist would have.
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