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« Reply #700 on: July 22, 2008, 11:27:56 AM »

johan555 posted this on the Natalee discussion thread 07/22/2008. I will try to get a link for the article. I saw this in 07/21/08 Diario but couldn't figure out the essence of the story. Emphasis added by me.

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Weekend full of Extreme violence on Aruba 


In the night from Saturday to Sunday were two groups of young people quarrel after the full moon party at Havana Beach Club.  police saw that the young beer bottles to each other were throwing.  It became one of the young people wounded in the face.  The victim was taken to hospital for treatment.  After the fighting agents had met young people from each other, they got the message that there would be a shooting in Dakota.  At the height of the intersection of the Druivenstraat and Tomatenstraat agents were indeed traces of a shooting.  The police found a shell on the ground and kogelgaten in a parked car and the door of a house. . It is suspected that the shooting Dakota in connection with the brawl earlier in Havana.  There are two arrests made.

 Zondagochtend was again reported a steekpartij. For the Royal Plaza shopping mall became one person injured.  The victim was in the abdomen and had to put to the first aid treatment. . What exactly happened and why the victim neergestoken is not yet known.  The criminal investigation into the matter.

Sorry - I can't get a translation of steekpartij or neeregestoken; I'll work on that.
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« Reply #701 on: July 22, 2008, 11:33:14 AM »

re. the above story - klaas posted this 07/22/2008 on the Natalee discussion thread.

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johann posted several of the pictures ....
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« Reply #702 on: July 22, 2008, 11:42:05 AM »

Diario's 07/22/2008 story:

http://news.diario-aruba.com/content/view/3614/30/


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  • VARIOS ARMA USA DILANTI DI HAVANA DIADOMINGO MARDUGA 

    Tuesday, 22 July 2008 

    ORANJESTAD (AAN): Polisnan no a para keto riba e investigacion relaciona cu e caso di tiramento cu a tuma lugar diadomingo marduga banda di Havana y despues tambe den Dakota.

    Te awor aki tin dos detencion caminda esnan deteni ta bisa di no sa nada. Asina mes polis tin un forma di haci nan investigacion pa saca afor si esnan deteni ta esnan cu a los tiro.

    Dialuna polis a bay cu varios miembro haci un investigacion den e area pafor di Havana y aki a bin haya un cantidad di hulls di bala procedente di arma di candela. Ta resulta cu e hullsnan aki ta di diferente caliber. Esey ta indica cu tabata tin mas cu un tipo di pistol usa den e tiramento pafor prome cu e caso despues den Dakota.

    Berdad un rato prome polis a bay pura tambe dilanti di Havana unda a drenta informacion cu tin bashamento di bala. Ora cu polis a yega nan no a mira nada y e momento ey ta solamente tres auto tabata tin para eydilanti.

    Un rato despues e melding di Dakota a drenta y aki si a pone man riba dos sospechoso y a haya hulls di un arma cayente di un caliber mas chikito.

    E cantidad di arma ilegal riba nos isla ta alarmamente y esaki ta den man di hobennan cu ta move rond busca problema cu otro hobennan den e area di clubnan nocturno.

    Ban spera cu e dianan cu ta bin polis sa di haci un limpieza den e areanan druk. Polis mester cana rond na civil pa asina purba pone man riba esnan cu ta cana cu arma y bira un peliger pa clubnan nocturno hopi frecuenta.

    Vacacion a cuminsa y mayornan mester papia cu nan yiu tambe pa evita cu nan lo bay bira victima na man di e loconan cu ta buscando manera di bay sera djis pa hunga tof usando arma di candela.

 
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several arm using fast of havana diadomingo marduga

tuesday, 22 july 2008

oranjestad (aan): polisnan not owing to stop keto on the investigacion relaciona cu the caso of tiramento cu did take lugar diadomingo marduga near of havana y after also in dakota.

till now here have two detencion caminda esnan deteni is tell of not know nothing. so self police have one form of haci they investigacion for saca afor if esnan deteni is esnan cu owing to los tiro.

monday police owing to bay cu several acolyte haci one investigacion in the area abroad of havana y here owing to come achieve one cantidad of hulls of ball procedente of arm of candela. is resulta cu the hullsnan here is of various caliber. esey is indica cu was have more cu one type of pistol using in the tiramento abroad first cu the caso after in dakota.

berdad one rato first police owing to bay pura also fast of havana where owing to enter informacion cu have bashamento of ball. hour cu police owing to arrive they not owing to see nothing y the instant ey is only three car was have stop eydilanti.

one rato after the melding of dakota owing to enter y here if owing to place hand on two sospechoso y owing to achieve hulls of one arm cayente of one caliber more diminutive.

the cantidad of arm ilegal on we island is alarmamente y this is in hand of hobennan cu is actuate rond busca problem cu another hobennan in the area of clubnan nocturno.

as wait for cu the dianan cu is come police know of haci one limpieza in the areanan druk. police have to march rond at civil for so try place hand on esnan cu is march cu arm y become one danger for clubnan nocturno much frecuenta.

vacacion owing to cuminsa y parents have to talk cu they child also for evita cu they will bay become victima at hand of the loconan cu is buscando as of bay close immidiately for play tof usando arm of candela.

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« Reply #703 on: July 27, 2008, 12:06:19 PM »

klaas posted this 07/27/2008 on the Natalee thread. Emphasis added  by me.

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The Netherlands worried about corruption Aruba
25 Jul, 2008, 16:07 (GMT -04:00)

 
ORANJESTAD/ THE HAGUE – The Dutch Minister of Justice Ernst Hirsch Ballin (CDA) has expressed his concern about government corruption during talks with Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP). This is evident from his answer to Chamber questions which PVV Member of Parliament Hero Brinkman asked the Minister and the Secretary of State Ank Bijleveld-Schouten (CDA) on the 26th of June.

The questions are about the political climate on Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles as a result of the interview in the Volkskrant newspaper with former deputy Attorney General (PG) Nico Jörg, who described the climate as being ‘dismal’. Brinkman asked whether the Dutch Minister was aware of ‘the serious allegations of examples of corruption, such as confusion of interests, lobbying for political reasons and nepotism in Aruba” and what the Minister has subsequently done with this information.
Hirsch Ballin responds that the Aruban Public Prosecution has taken various such cases of corruption to court whereby a few resulted in a conviction. “During talks with, amongst others, the Prime Minister of Aruba, I have expressed my concern and have spoken about improvements in the system, which can prevent corruption.”

Brinkman also asked how much money was at stake in the last five years of this corruption. The Minister says not to know, seeing as corruption is a matter of the central government. And with regard to the tenders by the Aruban government, Hirsch Ballin says also not to have any insight in that area seeing as this matter belongs to Aruba. The PVV-member brought forward in his question that tenders are not always transparent, as was stated in the newspaper interview. The Justice Minister also claims to be aware of the shortcomings in legislation. “The Netherlands delivers technical aid in order to support Aruba in its legislation process and to rid them of these shortcomings as soon as possible”, says Hirsch Ballin.
Brinkman also wants to know how Jörg’s presumption that the Public Prosecution on Aruba is met with resistance when it does more than just combating crime, came about. Also to this question the Minister replies that the Public Prosecution is matter for the central government and that he is not in the position to judge the ‘steps which the Public Prosecution has taken or should have taken in whichever situation.” The Minister furthermore finds that the Public Prosecution should be able to execute its work “independently, and through the regular authorities”.

Finally the Dutch Member of Parliament would also like to know if the Minister thinks that everyone which got his/her job through nepotism should be fired on the spot. To this Hirsch Ballin replies: “When hiring personnel the suitability of the candidate for the function should be the first priority. Objectivity and transparency in the process are important. I take it that Aruba stands behind the importance of this criteria. I also don’t have insight into the exchange of personnel with the Aruban government organ.”

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« Reply #704 on: August 03, 2008, 06:12:35 PM »

Person, female I think, found dead.  The comment to this mentions suicide?

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« Reply #705 on: August 04, 2008, 12:31:54 AM »

Another body found?



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« Reply #706 on: August 20, 2008, 07:40:02 AM »

carpe noctum posted this in the Natalee discussion thread 08/19/2008; emphasis added by me:

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Large police in hot zone
August 18, 2008, 17:40 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD - The 17-year-old J.J.W. In the night from Saturday to Sunday by agents arrested due to firearms. Several other people have been detained because of driving under the influence, drugsbezit and other violations. As part of a major police was the Aruba Police Corps in large numbers present in the hot zone to the nightclubs in Oranjestad.

Motorists were given the L.G. Smith Boulevard and in the Weststraat by agents challenged and checked. When police examined whether the car were in order and whether the drivers had not drunk. In addition, all passengers were searched for weapons and drugs and were also the cars thoroughly searched by the police officers present.

The action is intended to include the number of incidents where weapons are involved can be reduced. This control, the police including a knife, drugs and a number of cars were seized. The firearm was found at a 17-year old boy who was part of a group of four boys. Witnesses had seen that one of the four had a pistol with him. Agents are placed directly on the boys and after searches revealed W. Indeed, in the possession of a pistol. He was taken to the police station for questioning. A number of drunkenness motorists are arrested and brought to the office to further investigate how much alcohol they had in their blood. From drivers whose car documents were not in order, their vehicles were seized.

Also in the car park opposite Cafe Bahia Two persons arrested because drugsbezit. The police caught the two in flagrante and took the confiscated marijuana and arrested two persons. Their car was seized and a politietakelwagen transported to the bureau.

Since last year, the police use of a change in the preventive Vuurwapenverordening to be able to weapons searches. The police operation fits into the Zero Tolerance policy of the police so that the number of incidents involving weapons and would reduce the number of road accidents.
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« Reply #707 on: August 20, 2008, 07:44:51 AM »

carpe noctum also posted this, re. the still-missing Jose Tromp, on 08/19/2008 in the Natalee discussion thread; emphasis added by me:

ARUBA AMIGOE NEWS

Missing Jose Tromp in TV programme Tros Missing

August 16, 2008, 18:54 (GMT -04:00)


ORANJESTAD - The Dutch television programme Tros Missing, despite the Aruba, still pay attention to the issue of the 31-year old Aruban Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp. He disappeared on the morning of 27 november 2007. Tromp would be as a message going to do but then never came home.

Jose worked as a civil servant, studied in the evening vwo and would begin in september 2008 with a law. His mother, Petra Tromp, called him a quiet boy. "Actually he stood with everyone on good footing," says his mother. "He lunch almost every afternoon at home with his parents, so when he came home not knowing day it was strange." Then the same evening he still had not come home, the parents contacted the police.

If there is no clear evidence of a crime, the police in adults who are missing, only after 48 hours in action. The parents themselves were then go find and enquire going to do. This unfortunately yielded nothing and after 48 hours, they again went to the police station to declare it. The mother took the case to the police initially did not so seriously because there is no evidence of a crime would be. After a conversation with the Attorney-General is the official investigation on 10 december 2007 started. "Much time has been lost so well," said the desperate mother. On 12 May this year even volunteers from Texas Equusearch held to a search Tromp. With the Aruban volunteers, a search was put on ropes near Santa Cruz. The intensive search yielded no usable evidence. "The media had in the beginning a lot of attention to this matter but after a few months seems to have forgotten everything, as if a missing most normal thing in the world." The mother did not sit there and wrote to newspapers in the Netherlands and United States. Various organizations were also approached. She now has her hopes on the program Missing in september with a new series of episodes.
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« Reply #708 on: August 22, 2008, 01:47:15 PM »

Posted by bleachedblack 08/21/2008 in the Natalee discussion thread.

Turistanan ta wordo bati dilanti Senjor Frogs

Thursday, 21 August 2008 - 09:00
Den oranan laat di ayera anochi ta ricibi e yamada cu supuestamente dilanti di Señor Frogs mester ta tin un pelea formal andando. Ora cu nos a presenta na e sitio enberdad cu a bin encontra 3 mucha homber di nacionalidad venezolano lo mester a haya nan mes envolvi den un pelea cu e bouncernan di Señor Frogs. Informacion cu a ricibi ta cu e mucha hombernan aki a presenta na e porta di e night club aki pa drenta. Na momento cu e securitynan  a puntra nan pa mustra un indentificacion e hobenan aki no a gusta y alaves un di nan mester a mustra un cedula falso tambe. Click read more pa mas detayes y imagen.

Akinan e bouncernan a sa di bisanan cu door cu nan no por mustra ningun sorto di identifiacion, nan no por drenta den e nightclub. E momento ey un discusion a cuminsa formal a start te unda cu e turistanan aki a cuminsa ta insulta y pone man ariba un di e bouncernan.

Despues di various intento pa calma e turistanan aki no a keda nan ningun opcion di usa forsa bruto pa calma e hobenan aki. Den e lucha aki un di e hobenan mester a cay y slip na unda cu el a kap su cabes y tambe un otro lo mester a kibra su nanishi den e lucha.

Polis  a presenta na e sitio pa asina saka for kiko realmente lo mester a pasa y na final ora cu e bouncernan a mustra polis ariba video kiko tur a pasa, no a keda nan nada otro di bandona e sitio mirando cu e bouncernan a actua correcto.

Ambulance a presenta na e sitio y a transporta un di e hobenan aki pa Hospitaal pa ricibi tratamento medico. E dos otronan lo mester a subi den nan auto tambe pa bay rumbo Hospitaal pa ricibi tratamento medico tambe.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/5888/8/

Online Pap translation; emphasis added by me:

turistanan is wordo beat fast senjor frogs

thursday, 21 august 2008 - 09:00

in oranan late of yesterday night is ricibi the call cu supuestamente fast of sir frogs have to is have one action serious andando. hour cu we owing to present at the sitio enberdad cu owing to come encontra 3 boy of nacionalidad venezolano will have to owing to achieve they self envolvi in one action cu the bouncernan of sir frogs. informacion cu owing to ricibi is cu the child hombernan here owing to present at the door of the night club here for enter. at instant cu the securitynan owing to ask about they for show one indentificacion the hobenan here not owing to like y alaves one of they have to owing to show one cedula false also. click read more for more detayes y imagen.

akinan the bouncernan owing to know of bisanan cu door cu they not can show none sort of identifiacion, they not can enter in the nightclub. the instant ey one discusion owing to cuminsa serious owing to start till where cu the turistanan here owing to cuminsa is insulta y place hand upstairs one of the bouncernan.

after of various attempt for calma the turistanan here not owing to stay they none opcion of using compel bruto for calma the hobenan here. in the struggle here one of the hobenan have to owing to cay y slip at where cu past owing to chop his cabes y also one another will have to owing to break his nose in the struggle.

police owing to present at the sitio for so throw up for what genuinely will have to owing to happen y at end hour cu the bouncernan owing to show police upstairs video what all owing to happen, not owing to stay they nothing another of bandona the sitio mirando cu the bouncernan owing to actua correcto.

ambulance owing to present at the sitio y owing to transporta one of the hobenan here for hospitaal for ricibi tratamento medico. the two others will have to owing to lever in they car also for bay direction hospitaal for ricibi tratamento medico also. 
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« Reply #709 on: August 22, 2008, 01:56:25 PM »

carpe noctum posted all of these on the Natalee thread 08/21/2008. I edited the post slightly to distinguish carpe's comments from the text of the articles.

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OF ROBBERIES AND MURDER ARUBA


AMIGOE NEWS ARUBA

ARUBA'S TOXIC OIL FILLED BEACHES
   
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Olieverontreiniging to coast Savaneta
August 20, 2008, 17:14 (GMT -04:00)

With a baton, the oliesubstantie which polluted the coast at Savaneta, viewed.

ORANJESTAD - The coast of Savaneta, near restaurant Flying Fishbone, his weekend around the remnants of an oil pollution at sea found. That has both the milieustichting Fundacion Accion Ambiental as oil refinery noted. Part of the oil on the water and beach is now as good as possible.

The first accusing fingers into the possible cause of the pollution essentially soon direction Valero. Besides people from the neighborhood had also Marcos Bislip of Fundacion Accion Ambiental that idea. "It is not the first time that this happened, and this time submitted by Valero. It is a disaster for the seabirds. "Bislip also finds it regrettable that he did not correct at the height of the pollution has been lodged. "There are agreements with stakeholders. I want as quickly as possible with both the government and Valero consult on a solution to this problem. "

According to Valero spokesman Arends-Mariaine Croes is not originating from the oil refinery. "Once we were aware we immediately made all placed to see if came from us. This proved not the case. It would be an oil tanker could be but that we're not certain and is still being investigated. Meanwhile had our milieuafdeling have taken the initiative to clean up contaminated sites. "

According Bislip endorses the statement by Valero 'not correspond to reality' match. There would someone from the refinery even claimed that the oil spot spontaneously from the bottom of Aruba had come to top.

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OLD LADY GETS A WARNING FROM COPS
FOR REPORTING THAT A DRUGGIE THREATENED HER
IN A PHONE CALL THAT HE WOULD HACK HER TO
PIECES.

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Elderly woman from threats
August 20, 2008, 17:13 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD - Agents have Monday the 75-year-old LJL a warning given to the expression of telephone threats. Her son, the 42-year-old choller JJL, is an acquaintance of the police and is also known as "Yoyo." It was that afternoon in a bar in Mangel Halto and asked that the 24-year-old L. for some money. When L. it refused, the wanderer griste the wallet from his hand. The victim picks up this and not hit Yoyo on his eye, after which the choller afdroop. The mother of the wanderer then called the grandmother of L. During that telephone conversation would have threatened the mother that she L. 'In small pieces' are cut. When L. that his grandmother told he is going to do immediately return to the police station. The police subsequently with the mother of the wanderer spoken. They denied, however, in all modes. According to her she had "absolutely no" threat. The agents decided to give her a warning.

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YOUNG CHILD ROBBED ON HIS FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL

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First school in the soup
August 20, 2008, 17:25 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD / SAN NICOLAS - The first school day began not good for a child from Oranjestad and a kindergarten in San Nicolas.

Kindergarten Arubianita in San Nicolas on the first day of school immediately return must make burglary. Onverlaten had the gate opened and several knives, forks and scissors included. Even the thieves had deliberately set at the cleaners.

Residents of a house in Pavia Park Monday morning found a 7-year old child that 'verdwaasd' on the streets ran. The residents had mercy on the poor child and switched to the police. The child told the agents that he attended school in the vicinity had, but that he could not find the school. The child was adopted by the police to his house on the Circuit. It is not known whether the child the same day still went to school.

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Roofkabouter
August 19, 2008, 17:50 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD - Two chollers were arrested Sunday on suspicion of theft. The pair was a souvenir shop binnengestapt and griste as some stuff away, after which they went ervandoor a blue bicycle. An employee of the shop continued the chase. The follower stood at the crossroads of the Weststraat and the LG Smith Boulevard against policemen and told them what had happened.
The agents were then started searching in the area where they soon one of the suspects aantroffen. This wanderer had a white spectacles where the price tag still on Saturday and was not immediately arrested. Even the agents later found a homeless who sometimes known as the 'Kabouter', rolling on a blue bicycle. Because he fulfilled the description that the police had received, he was also arrested. Both are homeless to the police station for questioning.

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« Reply #710 on: September 21, 2008, 12:10:25 PM »

johan555 posted this on the Natalee thread 09/19/2008 --

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I am uttterly and sadly sickened in your niativity in your support for US tourism in Aruba. Please do your research (totaly thourough ) before you affirm our complete trust in another countries trust. My brother and sister-in-law were tragically proven “missing” in Aruba while suppossed touring the island on a rented boat. To this day their whereabouts have been overlooked by few and missed by many. Unfortunatly our family did not get the media and attention that Natalie so well deserved! Had it been, maybe that young women would still be laughing and smiling that exuberant smile as we speak. Much more should have been said about two beautiful young individuals who just went on a vacation “to get pregnant” after many months of doctor’s treatment. I, as his sister, and a firm believer of thier belief in one another would not have even breathed any of the sick notions that were talked about in thier disapperance. I could go on forever to speak about my pure despite and sheer anger at what can happen behind closed doors. There is so much more to stories than meets the everyday persons life. I wish every individual knew. All my blessings, all my faith in the above, but mostly my sincere sympthathy for the Holloway family, as it has been more than 20 years since we have tried to bury this tradgedy. I would be a liar if I said it got eaisier as time goes by, for every day without someone you hold so deeply, is the worst day of your life! So you as the writer of that comment, a narrow minded, uninformed individual believe in this so callled progess, I as another survivor of a undescribable tradgey will continue to call this a hidden recognision of fallen angels. Continue in your beliefs as I one of those who have fallen, will adamentaly opose. Please do your homework, unless you are one of the many that have something to gain by your sheer ignorance. Whether it be monetarily or not, may your consciounse prevail. From someone who atually knows the feeling.

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« Reply #711 on: September 21, 2008, 12:14:04 PM »

Just posting for my own information  - the incident posted above does not appear in the Murder & Crime Summary (see my sig line). Nothing like that in the 1987 +/- time frame. (Doesn't mean it didn't happen - just that I've never seen it mentioned before.)
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« Reply #712 on: September 21, 2008, 12:15:13 PM »

johan555 subsequently posted this link to the above post.

this is the website : http://gocaribbean.about.com/b/2007/02/05/aruba-tourism-the-holloway-effect.htm

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« Reply #713 on: October 07, 2008, 04:15:11 AM »

texasmom posted this 10/06/2008; I think the victim is Alexander Thomas.


Correction:
The 19 year old that died, was NOT in a car accident; from the little I can decipher I THINK it may have been an altercation with an 18 year old (R. M.) involving a baseball bat. Hopefully a translated version of the story will come out.  I would like to know what really happened here...I think it may say that the 18 year old was defending himself from the victim. 



The victim's nickname is "Neck".
This is the Diario report of the incident:

http://www.diario-aruba.com/200810064493/Local/Parce-cu-e-victima-a-bin-ataca-cu-bate-di-baseball-y-a-ser-hinca.....Hoben-di-18-ana-a-entrega-su-mes-na-polis-despues-di-propina-mortalmente-su-victima.html

Parce cu e victima a bin ataca cu bate di baseball y a ser hinca.....Hoben di 18 aña a entrega su mes na polis despues di propina mortalmente su victima
Monday, 06 October 2008 00:00

ORANJESTAD(AAN): Manera ya caba DIARIO a publica den su edicion di diasabra, diabierna Aruba a conoce un asesinato. Esaki sigur tabata un noticia hopi malo mirando cu aki ta trata di un problema entre hobennan di 18 y 19 aña di edad. E victima Alexander Thomas mihor conoci como Neck tin 19 aña mientras cu e persona cu e hinke ta R.M. di 18 aña.E hoben R.M, a entrega su mes algun ora despues di e hincamento na warda di polis na Oranjestad. Segun e prome informenan e dosnan aki tin problema cu otro y parce cu e victima a cuminsa busca problema diabierna. El a yega cu un bate di baseball pa agredi M., kende na su turno a defende su mes cu un arma blanco y propina Neck mortalmente den barica.
Prome cu Neck a muri parce cu el a subi auto cu intencion di busca yudanza medico locual e no a logra pasobra na caminda a bay den shock y dal den un auto.Neck segun esnan cu conoce no ta un persona facil. DIARIO a bay check riba e website di social networking, Hi5 caminda a bin topa cu varios cos cu a laga hende sorprendi riba e galeria di foto di Neck. E ta forma parti di un grupo cu tin su mesun credo. Esaki DIARIO lo publica awe pa henter Aruba mira con nos hobennan ta move awe.

Den e galeria ta papia di gang arma, droga y placa no ta ser exclui di e galeria aki. Esnan cu ta subi e website aki a yama DIARIO te for di St Maarten pa informa di loke nan tambe a mira. Investigacion ta andando pa cu e caso serio aki unda ta parce cu e persona cu a hinca a defende su mes contra Neck. Cu Neck sosega na paz.

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oranjestad(aan): as already end daily paper owing to publica in his edicion of saturday, diabierna aruba owing to conoce one asesinato. this assure was one news much bad mirando cu here is deal of one problem among hobennan of 18 y 19 year of edad. the victima alexander thomas mihor conoci because; neck have 19 year while cu the person cu the hinke is r.m. of 18 year.e young r.m, owing to entrega his self some hour after of the hincamento at keep of police at oranjestad. according the first informenan the dosnan here have problem cu another y seems cu the victima owing to cuminsa busca problem diabierna. past owing to arrive cu one bate of baseball for agredi m., that at his file owing to defende his self cu one arm blanco y propina neck mortalmente in barica. first cu neck owing to die seems cu past owing to lever car cu intencion of busca yudanza medico locual the not owing to succeed because at caminda owing to bay in shock y strike in one car.neck according esnan cu conoce do not one person facil. daily paper owing to bay check on the website of social networking, hi5 caminda owing to come come across cu several cos cu owing to let person sorprendi on the gallery of photograph of neck. the is form part of one are cu have his same credo. this daily paper will publica today for all aruba see con we hobennan is actuate today. in the gallery is talk of gang arm, drugs y coin do not being exclui of the gallery here. esnan cu is lever the website here owing to calling daily paper till for of st maarten for informa of thing they also owing to see. investigacion is andando for cu the caso earnest here where is seems cu the person cu owing to hinca owing to defende his self contra neck. cu neck sosega at paz.
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« Reply #714 on: October 10, 2008, 05:56:17 AM »

Crediting this is a little complicated ...

On 10/10/2008, Buckeye brought to my attention, on the Natalee discussion thread, a post by Pearl at BFN. Pearl had posted a Comment about a story in 24ora.com.

First, the story:

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/6284/8/

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Arma a wordo poni na cabes di taxista       

Sunday, 05 October 2008 - 12:56 

Diadomingo marduga un caso serio cu sa tuma lugar den exterior a tuma lugar aki na Aruba. For di un bar na Madiki un yamada a drenta pa solicita un taxi. Na yegada di e taxi (Toyota Prado) dos homber a drenta den e auto. E hombernan lo a indica e taxista unda pa bay y na altura di Madam Jeanet Restaurant na Pos Abow un di e hombernan a saca un arma y pone esaki na e cabes di e taxista. E orden tabata pa e para e auto y pa e sali pafor di e auto. E antisocialnan aki a bay for di e sitio cu e auto. E taxista a cana te \"E Boco\" pa asina bati alarma. Lo mester trata di dos persona color scur di cual un di nan tin dreads. Click read more pa lesa unda e auto a wordo haja.

Diadomingo mainta a bin encontra e auto di e taxista. Esaki tabata den e bario di Madiki den vecindario di oficina di Dr John Croes. Mirando cu e dos personan aki a subi e taxi na Madiki y a laga e auto banda na Madiki por analisa cu e probabildad ta grandi cu e personanan aki lo ta bibando den e mesun area aki. Keda pendiente debi cu tin algun relacionan entre algun caso cu e caso aki cu lo bay bira interesante.

Online Pap translation:

arm owing to wordo poni at cabes of taxista
sunday, 05 october 2008 - 12:56

diadomingo marduga one caso earnest cu know take lugar in exterior did take lugar here at aruba. for of one bar at madiki one call owing to enter for solicita one taxi. at arrival of the taxi (toyota prado) two man owing to enter in the car. the hombernan will owing to indica the taxista where for bay y at height of madam jeanet restaurant at pos abow one of the hombernan owing to saca one arm y place this at the cabes of the taxista. the orden was for her stop the car y for her leave abroad of the car. the antisocialnan here owing to bay for of the sitio cu the car. the taxista owing to march till "e boco" for so beat alarma. will have to deal of two person color dark of cual one of they have dreads. click read more for read where the car owing to wordo haja.

diadomingo morning owing to come encontra the car of the taxista. this was in the district of madiki in vecindario of office of dr john croes. mirando cu the two personan here owing to lever the taxi at madiki y owing to let the car near at madiki can analisa cu the probabildad is big cu the personanan here will is bibando in the same area here. stay pendiente debi cu have some relacionan among some caso cu the caso here cu will bay become interesting.

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{Basically, two guys hijacked a taxi.}

Among the Comments about this article was one from smf, which Pearl posted on BFN --

Posted by Pearl at BFN:

Comment from a IFA person on island after a story of a armed takeover of a taxi in Aruba.  The photos where the driver was told to get out and leave shows the taxi still there, and the scenery looks very familiar.  MO

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  As an Arubian by marriage and on the island about 25 years, I find myself in disbelief when reading about something like this happening on the perfect island that I left my country for. I am a realist and know that this kind of stuff happens everywhere in the world, however I always think that it can never happen here. I am sorry that we all must be careful about whom we let in our homes for a routine repair job and now we can't even open up the taxi door without crap like this happening. God, help us.....what is happening here? Wake up politicians and start cracking down on the JERKS that are ruining this wonderful country. I can't wait for the election.....we need help....we need change.....




 
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« Reply #715 on: October 12, 2008, 11:59:35 PM »

texasmom has been busy.

On 10/11/2008, she posted a screen shot of an article in the Natalee discussion thread, about the extended detention of a suspect in custody re. the "cruel death" of Alexander Thomas, age 19, a native of Aruba. The suspect is R.E. Marry, 17. (interesting that his name was published.) This article was in Solo di Pueblo.


texasmom also posted a screen shot of an AweMainta article about the "mysterious death" of a 23-yr-old football player (that would be soccer). His name is Edmond Eckmeyer. The article appeared in the 10/09/2008 edition. I think it states that some lab tests were sent to Holland; awaiting results to determine cause of death.
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« Reply #716 on: October 13, 2008, 01:19:50 AM »

texasmom has been busy.

On 10/11/2008, she posted a screen shot of an article in the Natalee discussion thread, about the extended detention of a suspect in custody re. the "cruel death" of Alexander Thomas, age 19, a native of Aruba. The suspect is R.E. Marry, 17. (interesting that his name was published.) This article was in Solo di Pueblo.


texasmom also posted a screen shot of an AweMainta article about the "mysterious death" of a 23-yr-old football player (that would be soccer). His name is Edmond Eckmeyer. The article appeared in the 10/09/2008 edition. I think it states that some lab tests were sent to Holland; awaiting results to determine cause of death.
msmarple,
This edition of AweMainta has already been moved from the website so I went ahead and posted the whole front page since I had it saved so that the date would be visible.









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« Reply #717 on: October 13, 2008, 01:55:46 AM »

I don't have a link on the Front Page article RE: Alexander Thomas; that edition has moved from the website.  The links for the Edmond Eckmeyer articles will probably only be available a few more days also.  It looks to me as if the more recent editions are moved through the same links.  But I'm not positive about that.  (One reason I like screenshots!)

Links:

Edmond Eckmeyer
http://www.awemainta.com/edicionan/4/pdf/01.pdf

http://www.awemainta.com/edicionan/4/pdf/02.pdf

Alexander Thomas (deceased)/R. E. Marry (Incarcerated)

October 8, 2008 Solo di Pueblo (download 1) (page 19 of 24)
http://solodipueblo.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=22&Itemid=2

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« Reply #718 on: October 13, 2008, 02:49:03 AM »

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If this doesn't fit your criteria, please ask a mod to remove it.  I just went ahead and posted it while I had all the info together.
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October 13, 2008

http://www.awemainta.com/edicionan/1/pdf/04.pdf



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http://www.awemainta.com/edicionan1/pdf/08.pdf
http://www.awemainta.com/edicionan1/pdf/31.pdf
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