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« Reply #500 on: July 05, 2007, 11:08:48 AM »

MsMarple,

We quickly passed the 35,000 views landmark and still climbing.  I am afraid you have spoiled many and they now come here for a concise summary of events!

Thanks for all your hard work keeping up daily with the publications.  Who would have ever thought there would be so much crime to post in a place that bills itself as being crime free!

Good thing we did not include the automobile accident rate!  That has to be exceptional as well!  

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« Reply #501 on: July 08, 2007, 04:40:31 PM »

 I left a message on the police site for Aruba to change the year on Natalee's missing' page to 2005. The message I left was quite rude, but I got my point across. They CHANGED THE YEAR TO 2005 BUTTTTTT.......the EFFERS PUT ---  MISSING SINCE MAY 5th 2005!!! ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!! They removed my request message too...not that I can blame them though, lol. DAMN, can't these people get ANYTHING STRAIGHT!!!>???
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« Reply #502 on: July 09, 2007, 09:27:32 AM »

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/7/9/

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MALTRATO CU BAT DI BASEBALL
 
ORANJESTAD.(AAN): Un pelea formal y maltrato cu bat di baseball, lo a tuma lugar na altura di “Balloon Pub” laat den marduga Tabata diadomingo marduga a drenta informe na central di polis cu den cercania di e club nocturno lo a tuma lugar un maltrato serio cu arma.

Patruya a bay cu rapidez y na momento cu polis a yega, e agentenan a wak un mucha homber para banda di un vehiculo ta entrega un bat di baseball na un persona sinta den e auto, posiblemente pa warda esaki.

Polis a yega cerca y enberdad tabata trata di un bat cu a wordo usa como un arma pa maltrata un persona drumi dilanti porta di e establecimento y cual persona tabata tur na sanger. Polis a observa cu e victima benta na vloer, tabata tin su cara, cabez y paña tambe cubri na sanger.

Mesora polis a detene dos sospechosonan cu ta J M v/d C. naci na Venezuela cu tin 20 aña, y tambe e hoben J.F.K.F. di 14 aña fuera e person di inicialnan W.A.G.C. a keda den man di autoridad.

E victima ora cu ambulans a presenta e no tabata kier di wordo trata pa ningun hende. Pero el a wordo convenci pa mihor e bay poli pa ricibi atencion medico cual el a acepta. Locual ta e tres sospechosonan nan a wordo poni den man di recherché di Noord.

Un biaha man a keda constata cu na momento reporta e tipo di caso mesora na polis, e tin su efecto, por actua mas rapido pa atende y detene esnan sospechoso envolvi di biaha.


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maltrato cu bat of baseball

oranjestad.(aan): one action serious y maltrato cu bat of baseball, will did take lugar at height of “balloon pub” late in marduga was diadomingo marduga owing to enter informe at central of police cu in cercania of the club nocturno will did take lugar one maltrato earnest cu arm.

patrol owing to bay cu rapidez y at instant cu police owing to arrive, the agentenan owing to look at one boy stop near of one vehiculo is entrega one bat of baseball at one person sit in the car, posiblemente for keep this.

police owing to arrive close y enberdad was deal of one bat cu owing to wordo using because; one arm for maltrata one person sleep fast door of the establecimento y cual person was all at blood. police owing to observa cu the victima throw at vloer, was have his cara, cabez y cloths also cubri at blood.

at once police owing to detene two sospechosonan cu is j m v/d c. naci at venezuela cu have 20 year, y also the young j.f.k.f. of 14 year fuera the person of inicialnan w.a.g.c. owing to stay in hand of autoridad.

the victima hour cu ambulance owing to present the not was wanted of wordo deal for none person. but past owing to wordo convenci for mihor the bay poli for ricibi atencion medico cual past owing to acepta. locual is the three sospechosonan they owing to wordo poni in hand of recherché of north.

once hand owing to stay constata cu at instant reporta the type of caso at once at police, the have his efecto, can actua more rapido for atende y detene esnan sospechoso envolvi of trip.
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« Reply #503 on: July 09, 2007, 03:09:04 PM »

Rob and Anna posted this 7/9/2007 on the LCD:

 
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They conducted such an investigation into the disappearance of Bud Larson that the next guests in the room where he stayed found his wallet in the cushions of a sofa or chair!


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Anna- there doesn't seem to be anyone from Buddy's family still around and the email addresses they used are no longer functional. They may have only been setup to deal with info and not their actual email addresses.

I talked to Gary Makings two sons and they kinda want to forget the entire horrible ordeal. I don't blame them.. but as I related to them, if we don't get their story on the record, we will see this all over again and at some point they should speak out.

They were told Gary drown... but hey! where is the body? I told them that the test conducted during Natalee's investigation revealed that the dummies floated back to shore...

That seem to make them clam up... I can understand that they may have been hit with info they were not prepared to hear, but they still need to consider getting their story out there.

One other thing about Gary... after they told them that Gary drown, they seem to indicate that Gary was alive in . .. . . . . you guessed it - Brazil.
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« Reply #504 on: July 10, 2007, 08:07:59 AM »

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/7/10/

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POLIS TA BISHITA HOBENNAN PROBLEMATICO NA CAS
 
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Mescos cu na Aruba, Hulanda tin un problema grandi cu hobennan cu ta cana e caminda criminal. Hortamento, violencia publico y te hasta asesinato. Na Aruba autoridadnan ta hasi nan best, organizando entre otro e evento conoci como “Let’s Talk”.

Na Hulanda cuerpo policial ta purbando un metodo cu parce e Let’s Talk di Aruba. Polis di Amersfoort a indica cu cuminzando awor, hobennan entre 14 y 18 aña, kendenan frecuentemente ta causa problema, no por hasi esaki mas, sin cu nan mayornan haya sa di esaki.

Polis den bario di Kattenbroek ta bay bishita un grupo di 45 hoben, na cas di nan mayornan. Esaki cuerpo policial a duna di conoce. E bishitanan di cas aki, ta forma parti di e maneho integral pa baha e cantidad di problema, cu e hobennan aki ta causa den bario di Kattenbroek.

Segun polis, mayoria di e problemanan den Amersfoort, ta bin for di e bario aki. Na 2006 tabata tin 182 keho riba hobennan problematico. Na 2007 te ainda ya caba tin 125 melding.

E grupo di hobennan aki mas tanto ta culpable di intimidacion, destruccion y hasi boroto. Quizas ta bon idea pa cuerpo policial di Aruba bishita e hobennan problematico di Madiki y Dakota, kendenan semper ta den noticia pa violencia y asesinato.


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police is visit hobennan problematico at home

oranjestad(aan): same cu at aruba, the netherlands have one problem big cu hobennan cu is march the caminda criminal. hortamento, violencia publico y till even asesinato. at aruba autoridadnan is make they best, organizando among another the evento conoci because; “let’s talk”.

at the netherlands cuerpo policial is purbando one method cu seems the let’s talk of aruba. police of amersfoort owing to indica cu cuminzando now, hobennan among 14 y 18 year, kendenan frecuentemente is cause problem, not can make this more, without cu they parents achieve know of this.

police in district of kattenbroek is bay visit one are of 45 young, at home of they parents. this cuerpo policial owing to give of conoce. the bishitanan of cas here, is form part of the maneho integral for descend the cantidad of problem, cu the hobennan here is cause in district of kattenbroek.

according police, majority of the problemanan in amersfoort, is come for of the district here. at 2006 was have 182 complaint on hobennan problematico. at 2007 till still already end have 125 melding.

the are of hobennan here more tanto is culpable of intimidacion, destruccion y make ado. quizas is good idea for cuerpo policial of aruba visit the hobennan problematico of madiki y dakota, kendenan always is in news for violencia y asesinato.
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« Reply #505 on: July 10, 2007, 08:26:03 AM »

The Rothschilds of the Mafia on Aruba

Tom Blickman - TNI Researcher {Transnational Institute}
Transnational Organized Crime Vol. 3, No. 2, Summer 1997

"A magnificent washing-machine is sold here, its trademark is Aruba. The machine is an Aruban-Colombian product, its model called Cartel. The brand is well-known for its good performance in the United States and Europe. It is recommended by former ministers, members of Parliament, owners of casinos, supermarkets, cosmetics manufacturers and importers of cars and batteries. The washing-machine fits everybody who has become inexplicably rich from one day to another."

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http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?page=archives_tblick_aruba

This is a very long article, and note that it is dated 1997. Some very interesting information and background; names some names and political parties. I hesitate to post it because of the length.
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« Reply #506 on: July 10, 2007, 07:34:29 PM »

2NJ MoM posted this in the Lively Discussion thread today.  I see the author as overly optimistic and slightly in denial of the fact that tourists are often the very targets of violence. Room invasion, for example, we see is up tremendously.  There are more crimes than murder with which most are concerned and being the victim of a robbery would dampen the vacation spirit of most people.  I suppose it will take some time for this to sink into the general psyche of the tourist public but robbery is committed most often against the tourists from the incidences we see daily in the Aruban newspapers.

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Crime in the Caribbean: Should You Worry?
 
From Robert Curley,
Your Guide to Caribbean for Visitors.

Do tourists really want to know about the problems faced by the countries they visit? I ask myself that question when I see stories like this, detailing a new report from the World Bank that proclaims the Caribbean the murder capital of the world.


Personally I was taken aback by that claim, as well as statistics showing the murder rate in the Caribbean being 30 per 100,000 inhabitants -- higher than that in Africa and far more than in the U.S., where the murder rate is about 7 per 100,000.


Before we Americans pat ourselves on the back, however, it's worth noting that the report points out that most of the crime and murders in the Caribbean can be traced to international drug smuggling. The Caribbean is a key transit point for drugs coming out of South and Central America bound for the United States and Europe.

The study, Crime, Violence and Development: Trends, Costs, and Policy Options in the Caribbean, also noted that relatively few incidents can skew statistics on murder and crime in countries with small populations, like those across the Caribbean. Jamaica, with its comparatively high population and murder rate (49 per 100,000), undoubtedly casts a pall over the entire region, although Trinidad and Tobabo and the Dominican Republic also have high murder rates.

What does all this mean to tourists? Certainly, it does not mean 'don't travel to the Caribbean' -- any more than drug-related crime would make you avoid visiting, say, Los Angeles or any other U.S. city. Violent crime rarely touches tourists or tourist areas, and your typical tourist is likely to enjoy far better personal security in a resort area than the average island resident in their home town.

Furthermore, you simply cannot lump the entire Caribbean together; every island is different, and on many islands you're likely to be as safe or safer than the commmunity you left behind on vacation.

Still, statistics like these are an important reminder that tourist office claims about a Caribbean "paradise" (and I've been guilty of using this one, too) with a grain of salt, and to heed travel warnings and tips on personal safety when traveling abroad. Your odds of becoming a crime statistic while on your Caribbean trip are vanishingly slim, but it certainly doesn't hurt to go in with your eyes open, as well as your mind!

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« Reply #507 on: July 11, 2007, 08:39:21 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/english/   07/11/2007

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Stolen police laptop found back  

ORANJESTAD – The laptop stolen from the home of a Dutch police official was found back.  Two detectives of the Police Corps Aruba ( KPA ) traveled to the Dominican Republic to recover the laptop, which contains a whole lot of information on the criminality in Aruba and a strategic plan.  

The stolen laptop belonged to an official of KPLD from the Netherlands .  He is in Aruba since March to make a so-called ‘combat criminality’ analysis.  The coordination is with the Public Prosecutor (OM).  Janneke Ponsioen of the OM says that the data on the laptop is especially from public sources, like annual reports.  The reason why the OM , the police, and the Detective Cooperative Team ( RST ) wanted the laptop back is according to her, the amount of time that was put into this analysis.    

Up till now, five persons were arrested in this case and five houses were raided.  In one of the homes it appears that a person had bought the laptop and taken it with other stolen goods to the Dominican Republic .  The Dominican police have arrested this person.

With this investigation, the police have found a group of burglars with a permanent receiver.  The investigation is being continued.
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« Reply #508 on: July 11, 2007, 08:54:15 AM »

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DIAHUEBS TIN VEREDICTO DEN CASO DI ATRACO RIBA POMP DI VALERO
 
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Diahuebs huez ta bay duna su sentencia den e caso contra Emile Antonio Thode y Pablo Wendel Cordero Mateo. Nan a wordo acusa di a comete un atraco riba e pomp di gasoline na Savaneta, riba 20 di October 2006.

Nan a hasi esaki usando un arma di candela y nan a logra bay cu un saco di placa, den cual tabata tin 20 mil florin y mas di 1600 dollar. Ademas di esaki, P.M a wordo acusa di a menaza un persona cu morto, entre 25 y 26 di February di 2006.

Pa loke ta e atraco riba e pomp di Valero, acusado Thode a declara cu tabata Mateo kende a comete esaki, mientras cu Mateo a declara cu Thode a hasi esaki. E persona cu a wordo atraca, a bisa cu esun cu a hasi esaki, a punta un arma di candela riba dje.

Fiscal a bisa durante tratamento di e caso, cu no ta hopi importante ken exactamente a comete e atraco, pasobra e otro persona a tabata complice y lo haya mesun castigo pa esaki. Fiscal a exigi un castigo di 4 aña pa E.T y pa P.M el a exigi un castigo di 5 aña, mirando tambe e otro caso contra dje.


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diahuebs have veredicto in caso of atraco on pomp of valero

oranjestad(aan): diahuebs huez is bay give his sentencia in the caso contra emile antonio thode y pablo wendel cordero mateo. they owing to wordo acusa of owing to comete one atraco on the pomp of gasoline at savaneta, on 20 of october 2006.

they owing to make this usando one arm of candela y they owing to succeed bay cu one saco of coin, in cual was have 20 thousand guilder y more of 1600 dollar. apart from this, therefore.m owing to wordo acusa of owing to menaza one person cu dead, among 25 y 26 of february of 2006.

for thing is the atraco on the pomp of valero, acusado thode owing to declara cu was mateo that owing to comete this, while cu mateo owing to declara cu thode owing to make this. the person cu owing to wordo atraca, owing to tell cu esun cu owing to make this, owing to punta one arm of candela on dje.

fiscal owing to tell during tratamento of the caso, cu do not much important that exactly owing to comete the atraco, because the another person owing to was complice y will achieve same castigo for this. fiscal owing to exigi one castigo of 4 year for E.T. y for P.M. past owing to exigi one castigo of 5 year, mirando also the another caso contra dje.
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« Reply #509 on: July 11, 2007, 01:18:09 PM »

sandy leiva posted this on the LCD 07/11/2007:

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NOTICIA LOCA

article translation :selling of minor children taking placein aruba. Article from J Mansuer paper el diario july 9th. Am busy so rough translation only. Sellingof minor children and even babys have taken place on our island and left a black cloud over our island says Jossy, he hopes publishing of these acts will leadto arrest and full persectution of whoever is involved in this type of action. Maybe someone else can translatemore. bye for now sl




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Tin fuerte sospecho:
BENDEMENTO DI MUCHANAN MENOR DI EDAD
TUMANDO LUGAR NA ARUBA


ORANJESTAD (AAN): Tin biaha nos ta lesa di e tipo di informacionnan aki, pero den corantnan stranhero of tende di dje den medionan di comunicacion na otro paisnan. E biaha aki, por ta, esaki ta birando un realidad na Aruba tambe.

Den fin di siman, mesa di redaccion di DIARIO a wordo poni na altura di casonan hopi lamentable y espantoso cu ta tumando lugar ariba nos isla. Tin fuerte sospecho cu benta di muchanan menor di edad y di hasta babynan ta tumando lugar na Aruba.

Ta asina cu por ta e situacion preta cu nos ta bibando aden actualmente ta haci cu tin mayornan cu nan placa no ta yega pa por alimenta y mantene nan yiunan. Tambe, por ta lo contrario caminda tin mayornan cu kier deshaci di nan yiunan cu e meta di haya cierto cantidad di placa cu nan despues lo use pa nan beneficio.

Den e caso aki, tin entendi cu probablemente e tipo di transaccionnan aki, mucha pa placa, lo por ta tumando entre personanan arubiano cu colombiano. Por ta posible cu e nos yiunan di tera ta durf di bende nan propio yiunan y entrega esaki den man di otro hende na cambio di placa?

E motibo di esaki pronto lo por sali na claridad. E unico berdad ta cu esaki ta un caso hopi serio di cual, segun DIARIO tin entendi, autoridadnan concerni ta na altura di dje caba y nan lo tuma e pasonan necesario pa castiga esnan cu ta haci nan mes culpable di e delito aki.
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« Reply #510 on: July 12, 2007, 10:17:30 AM »

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Atraco arma na Sero Alejandro
Doño di Supermarket y su famia a worde mara pa 3 ora largo


ORANJESTAD (AAN): For di banda di 9’or di anochi caba, un grupo di 3 atracador fuertemente arma a drenta tereno di famia L. biba na Sero Alejandro, unda a drenta cu forza y cu un revolver den man, mas dos arma estilo shotgun.

E famia cu ta propietario di Manbiu Supermarket na Savaneta a spanta y no por a haci nada mas. E atracadornan a apodera di nan, y a duna nan orden pa nan bay na suela. Aki a usa sea cabuya of waya pa mara e famia, pa asina e atracadornan por a bira “doño” di e hogar pa 3 ora largo. Uno di nan ta bisti na preto, e otro ta bisti na blauw-scur, y uno di nan tabatin un muts blanco riba cabez.

Asina oranan tabata pasa, mientras e atracadornan a bay reboltea henter e cas, garando tur prenda cu nan por haya. Tambe a pasa man pa hopi biyete di Florin, tambe Euro, y hasta a bay cu Renminbi, cu ta moneda di China.

Fuera di esey, nan a tuma tur nan pasenshi den e 3 oranan ey pa ranca tur waya, y desconecta 3 computer di marca Dell, color shinishi. Tur e tempo ey nan tabata pasa check e famia, si acaso nan ta bon mara ainda.

Nan a pasa man pa e yabi di un auto di marca BMW color shinishi cu number A-23823, habri e porta y baul, y pone tur loke nan a horta eyden.

Finalmente alrededor di 12’or di awe madruga, nan a bandona e cas, menazando e famia ainda. Nan a start e BMW, saca e vehiculo di cura di cas, y cu full speed a bay direccion pabao.

Algun minuut despues, famia a logra lucha y libera nan mes, pa asina bati alarma. Mesora polisnan riba caya a cuminza busca rond pa e vehiculo aki cu lo no por yega leu, como cu e tanki di gasolin ta basta empty. Atraco Team tambe a worde envolvi, y mesora a cuminza haci investigacion tecnico di e caso serio aki.


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atraco arm at hill alejandro
owner of supermarket y his family owing to worde mara for 3 hour largo


oranjestad (aan): for of near of 9’or of night end, one are of 3 atracador strongly arm owing to enter territory of family l. live at hill alejandro, where owing to enter cu forza y cu one revolver in hand, more two arm style shotgun.

the family cu is propietario of manbiu supermarket at savaneta owing to spanta y not can owing to haci nothing more. the atracadornan owing to apodera of they, y owing to give they orden for they bay at floor. here owing to using as cabuya or wire for mara the family, for so the atracadornan can owing to become “doño” of the hogar for 3 hour largo. uno of they're dress at black, the another is dress at blauw-scur, y uno of they had one muts blanco on cabez.

so oranan was happen, while the atracadornan owing to bay reboltea all the cas, garando all jewel cu they can achieve. also owing to happen hand for much biyete of guilder, also euro, y even owing to bay cu renminbi, cu is moneda of china.

fuera of esey, they did take all they patience in the 3 oranan ey for ranca all wire, y desconecta 3 computer of mark dell, color grey. all the time ey they was happen check the family, if acaso they're good mara still.

they owing to happen hand for her key of one car of mark bmw color grey cu number a-23823, open the door y baul, y place all thing they owing to steal eyden.

finalmente alrededor of 12’or of today madruga, they owing to bandona the cas, menazando the family still. they owing to start the bmw, saca the vehiculo of cura of cas, y cu full speed owing to bay direccion pabao.

some minuut after, family owing to succeed struggle y libera they self, for so beat alarma. at once polisnan on caya owing to cuminza busca rond for her vehiculo here cu will not can arrive far, because; cu the tanki of gasolene is enough empty. atraco team also owing to worde envolvi, y at once owing to cuminza haci investigacion tecnico of the caso earnest here.

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SENTENCIA TA CAY AWE, DEN CASO DI ATRACO RIBA
“LUCKY NUMBERS”


ORANJESTAD(AAN): Diahuebs den corte di prome instancia, huez ta bay duna su sentencia, den e caso den cual Kandy Carolina Rodriguez Salcero y Nelkis Ramon Garcia Chacon di Venezuela, a wordo acusa di a comete un atraco riba Lucky Numbers den Hendrickstraat, riba 20 di Maart.

Nan a wordo acusa di a uza un arma di candela y mara trahadornan den e lugar di bende number, despues di cual nan a bay cu un cantidad di placa.

Despues di algun pista, polis a logra haya sa unda e pareha aki tabata scondi y a drenta e apartamento.

Eyden nan a haya e pareha scondi den camber y nan a haya e tas cu placa y cadenanan cu nan a horta den e lugar di bende number.

Ademas di esaki nan a haya un arma di candela. Fiscal a exigi un castigo di 8 aña pa Chacon, mirando tambe su record di castigo y pa e muher el a pidi.


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sentencia is cay today, in caso of atraco on “lucky numbers”

oranjestad(aan): diahuebs in corte of first instancia, huez is bay give his sentencia, in the caso in cual kandy carolina rodriguez salcero y nelkis ramon garcia chacon of venezuela, owing to wordo acusa of owing to comete one atraco on lucky numbers in hendrickstraat, on 20 of march.

they owing to wordo acusa of owing to employ one arm of candela y mara trahadornan in the lugar of sell number, after of cual they owing to bay cu one cantidad of coin.

after of some pista, police owing to succeed achieve know where the pareha here was scondi y owing to enter the apartment.

eyden they owing to achieve the pareha scondi in camber y they owing to achieve the bag cu coin y cadenanan cu they owing to steal in the lugar of sell number.

apart from this they owing to achieve one arm of candela. fiscal owing to exigi one castigo of 8 year for chacon, mirando also his record of castigo y for her muher past owing to ask.

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On a slightly lighter note … dead fish thrown on Senior Roman Wever’s property. (Although of course I'm sure Mr. Wever did think of this as a "light note" ...

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HENDENAN A TIRA RESTONAN DI PISCA MORTO, RIBA
PROPIEDAD DI OTRO

 
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Diaranzon DIARIO a entrevista Roman Wever, tocante di un molester cu el a experiencia.

Señor Wever a splica cu el a bay na su rancho cerca di Bucuti pa dedica algun rato na su nietonan y ora cu el a yega, el a haya un holo insoportable.

Ora cu el a wak bon, hendenan a tira restonan di pisca morto eynan. El a bisa cu esaki ta algo hopi lamentable y un acto di falta di respet pa propiedad di hende.

Pa colmo e tin famia ta yegando for di Hulanda cu ta bay pasa dia na e rancho y nan ta haya nan cu holo insoportable.

Segun señor Wever esaki no ta bon. Awor su subrino a yama D.O.W y SERLIMAR y nan a bisa cu nan lo bin na e sitio, pa yuda alivia a problema, mirando cu ta trata di un cantidad grandi di restonan di pisca morto.


Online Pap translation:

hendenan owing to throw restonan of pisca dead, on
property of another


oranjestad(aan): diaranzon daily paper owing to interview roman wever, tocante of one molester cu past owing to experiencia.

sir wever owing to splica cu past owing to bay at his rancho close of bucuti for dedica some rato at his nietonan y hour cu past owing to arrive, past owing to achieve one holo insoportable.

hour cu past owing to look at good, hendenan owing to throw restonan of pisca dead eynan. past owing to tell cu this is algo much lamentable y one acto of miss of respet for property of person.

for colmo the have family is yegando for of the netherlands cu is bay happen day at the rancho y they're achieve they cu holo insoportable.

according sir wever this do not good. now his nephew owing to calling d.o.w y serlimar y they owing to tell cu they will come at the sitio, for help alivia owing to problem, mirando cu is deal of one cantidad big of restonan of pisca dead.

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Can’t make much of this one, but seems like good information to have …

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No por descarta cu nan ta bishitando Aruba!
GRUPO DI SICARIONAN COLOMBIANO TA HAYA COMO PREMIO
VIAHENAN “ALL INCLUSIVE” DEN CARIBE

 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Un informacion cu a hala nos atencion cu a sali publica den e corant “El Tiempo” di Colombia, ta indica cu na e pais suramericano aki tin un banda di sicarionan di Cali cu ta opera den ocho pais y na cual ta ser atribui por lo menos 200 asesinato na Colombia.

Na Cali, practicamente ta prohibi papia di e grupo aki, responsable di por lo menos 200 crimen den areanan di Valle, Bogotá y e zona productor di cofi. Segun e investigadornan, e banda aki ta ofrece nan servicionan na e mihor postor y ta confirma cu e grupo di sicarionan conoci como “Tres puntillas” of “La Negra” hopi biaha tambe ta viaha bay otro paisnan pa ehecuta nan actonan criminal.

El Tiempo, a señala cu pa haya pistanan relaciona cu e crimennan cu e grupo aki ta comete nan mester di e colaboracion di autoridadnan di por lo menos siete pais. Na Colombia, por ehemplo, e victimanan ta varia entre miembronan di varios clan di narcotrafico, agentenan di e servicio di inteligencia estatal, te hasta trahadornan di servicio domestico.

Te dia di awe, e fiscalia colombiano a localiza 101 victima, tur plenamente identifica. Pa ehecuta e tipo di crimennan aki, e grupo ta contrata un nomina di 30 homber, caminda 14 di nan ya caba a ser deteni y cera.

E corant ta indica tambe cu e persona cu ta na cabez di e banda criminal aki, tin estructura henter un payroll pa su trahadornan. Cu seguro, centronan vacacional, esaki a cambio di nan silencio.

Actualmente, e dirigente di e grupo y 13 sicario mas cu falta ainda pa captura, ta ser busca pa e delitonan di homicidio agrava, secuestro, extorsion, robo, narcotrafico, falsificacion di documentonan publico y priva, fraude procesal, entre otro.

Segun e fiscalia, varios di e victimanan di e “oficina di cobranza” aki mester wordo busca na Merca, Mexico, Spaña, Brasil, Venezuela, Ecuador y Panama, te na unda e delincuentenan ta viaha contrata pa e mafia y personanan particular cu ta paga pa anikila nan enemigonan sin laga ningun rastro.

Tin entendi, El Tiempo, a laga sa, cu e miembronan di e banda, e organizacion ta premia nan cu viahenan di placer den Caribe, cu tur cos paga. Esaki ta inclui hotelnan cinco strea pa nan y nan famia.

Esaki kiermen cu e sicarionan posiblemente ta cana rond na Aruba tambe sin cu ni un hende sa. E pregunta ta: Seguridad Nacional ta na altura di esaki?, ya cu no por descarta cu debi na e cercania di nos isla cu Colombia, e personanan aki lo por ta asigna pa realiza un “vakantie job” aki na Aruba.


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not can descarta cu they're bishitando aruba!
are of sicarionan colombiano is achieve because; premium
viahenan “all inclusive” in caribe


oranjestad (aan): one informacion cu owing to wing we atencion cu owing to leave publica in the corant “el tiempo” of colombia, is indica cu at the country suramericano here have one near of sicarionan of cali cu is opera in eight country y at cual is being atribui at least 200 asesinato at colombia.

at cali, practicamente is prohibi talk of the are here, responsable of at least 200 crimen in areanan of valle, bogotá y the sound productor of cofi. according the investigadornan, the near here is ofrece they servicionan at the mihor postor y is confirma cu the are of sicarionan conoci because; “tres puntillas” or “la negra” much trip also is viaha bay another paisnan for ehecuta they actonan criminal.

past tiempo, owing to señala cu for achieve pistanan relaciona cu the crimennan cu the are here is comete they have to of the colaboracion of autoridadnan of at least seven country. at colombia, can example, the victimanan is varia among miembronan of several clan of narcotrafico, agentenan of the servicio of inteligencia estatal, till even trahadornan of servicio domestico.

till day of today, the fiscalia colombiano owing to localiza 101 victima, all plenamente identifica. for ehecuta the type of crimennan here, the are is contrata one nomina of 30 man, caminda 14 of they already end owing to being deteni y close.

the corant is indica also cu the person cu is at cabez of the near criminal here, have estructura all one payroll for his trahadornan. cu seguro, centronan vacacional, this owing to cambio of they silencio.

actualmente, the dirigente of the are y 13 sicario more cu miss still for captura, is being busca for her delitonan of homicidio agrava, secuestro, extorsion, abstraction, narcotrafico, falsificacion of documentonan publico y priva, fraude procesal, among another.

according the fiscalia, several of the victimanan of the “oficina of cobranza” here have to wordo busca at merca, mexico, spain, brasil, venezuela, ecuador y panama, till at where the delincuentenan is viaha contrata for her mafia y personanan particular cu is pay for anikila they enemigonan without let none rastro.

have entendi, past tiempo, owing to let know, cu the miembronan of the near, the organizacion is premia they cu viahenan of placer in caribe, cu all cos pay. this is inclui hotelnan cinco stars for they y they family.

this kiermen cu the sicarionan posiblemente is march rond at aruba also without cu neither a know. the question ta: seguridad nacional is at height of this?, already cu not can descarta cu debi at the cercania of we island cu colombia, the personanan here will can is asigna for realiza one “vakantie job” here at aruba.

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« Reply #511 on: July 13, 2007, 11:11:25 AM »

This is from Rob's web site, http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/04/amigoecom-uses-propaganda-and.html .

http://aruba101.blogspot.com/2005/07/amigoecom-max-de-vries-alive-in-brazil.html  {Link is obsolete}

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"The hotel employee has again confirmed to the Amigoe today that the police had informed the hotel that Max de Vries is probably alive. The boy is supposedly in Brazil. The American Insurance Company had asked the Aruban police for more information. "


This is an excerpt from the Amigoe.com article about Max.

I include this because the link shows a date of "2005/07" and that is as close as I have come to the actual date on which the story appeared in Amigoe.com. No archives are available.
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« Reply #512 on: July 13, 2007, 02:30:17 PM »

Diario for 7/13 is up ...

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/7/13/

Another bate de baseball incident ...

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Hulandes atraca y maltrata na San Nicolas

ORANJESTAD.(AAN): Un homber Hulandes algo pasa di mey anochi, a wordo atraca altura di un bar den B.v/d Veen Zeppenfeld. Central di polis a dirigi patruya di San Nicolas pa bay atende e caso mesora. Na yegada polis a topa cu e homber di inicialnan M.W. di 31 aña.

Segun e M.W. su version tres homber a comete atraco riba dje. E hombernan tabata tin bate di baseball den nan poder. Un di e hombernan a dale cu e bate tambe. N.W. pa cuminsa a conta cu na dado momento ora cu e ta saliendo for di un bar cu intencion pa bay hasi uso di transportacion di autobus, un choler tabata sigui su tras. Direpiente el a topa cu dos otro homber para banda di dje, nan ta arma cu bate di base ball.

E hombernan a puntra MW pa placa, el a reacciona bisando cu e no tin. Pa a forze entrega placa, el a ricibi sla formal cu bate na su pia. Denunciante apesar di e golpi fuerte a purba di core subi un trapi pa asina e por scapa di e trio atracador.

Pero ora el a trata di subi y core pa scapa di e malhechornan, un biaha mas el a bolbe ricibi un sla fuerte cu bate na su pia. Dolor tabata asina fuerte cu el a haye oblige di entrega e bandidonan su cartera, den cual e ta tin e momento ey 200 florin. Despues di e acto cruel aki e tres chollernan a baha na awa. Un di e chollernan e conoce pa cara, MW a describe e tipo aki na e polisnan.

Parce cu ora cu e patruya tabata na caminda pa atende e asistencia, polisnan a wak un choler cu ta cuadra cu e descripcion un tal Billy. A base di e informe aki polisnan lo busca e sospechoso aki E victima sigur lo a busca manera pa remedia su dolornan debi na e sla nan cu e haye ta wanta pa e bate.


Online Pap translation:

dutch atraca y maltrata at san nicolas

oranjestad.(aan): one man dutch algo happen of mey night, owing to wordo atraca height of one bar in b.v/d veen zeppenfeld. central of police owing to dirigi patrol of san nicolas for bay atende the caso at once. at arrival police owing to come across cu he of inicialnan m.w. of 31 year.

according the m.w. his version three man owing to comete atraco on dje. the hombernan was have bate of baseball in they power. one of the hombernan owing to dale cu the bate also. n.w. for cuminsa owing to count ; cu at dado instant hour cu the is saliendo for of one bar cu intencion for bay make usage of transportacion of omnibus, one choler was follow his slow. all of a sudden past owing to come across cu two another man stop near of dje, they're arm cu bate of base ball.

the hombernan owing to ask about mw for coin, past owing to reacciona saying cu the not have. for owing to forze entrega coin, past owing to ricibi sla serious cu bate at his leg. denunciante despite of the golpi strong owing to try of core lever one stair for so the can scapa of the trio atracador.

but hour past owing to deal of lever y core for scapa of the malhechornan, once more past owing to go back ricibi one sla strong cu bate at his leg. dolor was so strong cu past owing to haye oblige of entrega the bandidonan his cartera, in cual the is have the instant ey 200 guilder. after of the acto cruel here the three chollernan owing to descend at water. one of the chollernan the conoce for cara, mw owing to describe the type here at the polisnan.

seems cu hour cu the patrol was at caminda for atende the asistencia, polisnan owing to look at one choler cu is cuadra cu the descripcion one such billy. owing to base of the informe here polisnan will busca the sospechoso here the victima assure will owing to busca as for remedia his dolornan debi at the sla they cu the haye is wanta for her bate.

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A day in court on the Happy Island ...

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CASONAN PENAL DEN CORTE AWE
 
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Awe mainta un biaha mas ta bay tuma lugar diferente caso penal, den corte di prome instancia. E prome caso ta e caso den cual Johannes Span Ospino, ta wordo acusa di posesion ilegal di un of mas arma di candela y posesion di un of mas patronchi, sin tin permiso di Minister di Husticia.

E caso aki ta bin dilanti pro-forma. Hector de Jesus Rodriguez Castillo, Ciro Angel Chaves Urdaneta y Oscar Antonio Angelucci Soriano, tambe mester presenta dilanti di huez awe mainta, despues cu nan a wordo acusa di a horta un cantidad di placa for di un ATM machine, door di a haya y/of cumpra un of mas carchi di bancomatico of credit card falso of falsifica, pa cumpra algun articulo y comete estafa.

E caso aki tambe ta bin dilanti pro-forma. Franklyn Anthony Gomes mester presenta dilanti di mesa berde awe mainta, pa motibo cu el a wordo acusa di intento premedita di maltrato severo contra un persona.

Ademas di esaki e ta wordo acusa di intento di maltrato cu un arma. Awe mainta Javier Limate Chaux lo presenta na corte, debi na e echo cu el a wordo acusa di a horta un cantidad di placa y algun articulo for di un negoshi, door di uza violencia y/of menaza cu violencia contra un of mas persona.

Kelvin Eduardo Holsman tambe tin cu bay corte awe, pa motibo cu el a wordo acusa di intencionalmente maltrata un persona severamente. Cerca di merdia, Juan Sepulveda Ramos lo presenta dilanti di mesa berde, despues cu el a wordo acusa di a uza violencia y/of menaza cu violencia y/of un otro echo, pa obliga un persona pa comete y/of soporta un of mas acto inmoral.

E persona aki ta wordo acusa tambe di intencionalmente secuestra un persona. Ademas di esaki e ta wordo acusa di duna, ofrece of mustra un plachi of obheto, di cual su presentacion ta wordo considera perjudicial pa personanan bao di 16 aña, na un mucha di cual e mester por a sa, cu tabata menor di 16.

Leon Eleutero Quandt mester presenta dilanti di huez tambe, pasobra e ta wordo acusa di intencionalmente bende y/of entrega y/of transporta y/of posesion di un cantidad di cocaina.

Ultimo caso awe ta bay ta e caso den cual Daniel Farro y Caesar Krosendijk, ta wordo acusa di intencionalmente bende un cantidad di cocaina y/of entrega y/of transporta y/of posesion di e droga.


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casonan penal in corte today

oranjestad(aan): today morning once more is bay take lugar various caso penal, in corte of first instancia. the first caso is the caso in cual johannes span ospino, is wordo acusa of posesion ilegal of one or more arm of candela y posesion of one or more patronchi, without have permission of minister of husticia.

the caso here is come fast pro-forma. hector de jesus rodriguez castillo, ciro angel chaves urdaneta y oscar antonio angelucci soriano, also have to present fast of huez today morning, after cu they owing to wordo acusa of owing to steal one cantidad of coin for of one atm machine, door of owing to achieve y/of cumpra one or more carchi of bancomatico or credit card false or falsifica, for cumpra some articulo y comete estafa.

the caso here also is come fast pro-forma. franklyn anthony gomes have to present fast of table berde today morning, for motibo cu past owing to wordo acusa of attempt premedita of maltrato severo contra one person. apart from this the is wordo acusa of attempt of maltrato cu one arm.

today morning javier limate chaux will present at corte, debi at the achievement cu past owing to wordo acusa of owing to steal one cantidad of coin y some articulo for of one business, door of employ violencia y/of menaza cu violencia contra one or more person.

kelvin eduardo holsman also have cu bay corte today, for motibo cu past owing to wordo acusa of intencionalmente maltrata one person severamente. close of afternoon, juan sepulveda ramos will present fast of table berde, after cu past owing to wordo acusa of owing to employ violencia y/of menaza cu violencia y/of one another achievement, for obliga one person for comete y/of soporta one or more acto inmoral.

the person here is wordo acusa also of intencionalmente secuestra one person. apart from this the is wordo acusa of give, ofrece or show one plachi or obheto, of cual his presentacion is wordo considera perjudicial for personanan bao of 16 year, at one child of cual the have to can owing to know, cu was younger of 16.

lion eleutero quandt have to present fast of huez also, because the is wordo acusa of intencionalmente sell y/of entrega y/of transporta y/of posesion of one cantidad of cocaina.

ultimo caso today is bay is the caso in cual daniel farro y caesar krosendijk, is wordo acusa of intencionalmente sell one cantidad of cocaina y/of entrega y/of transporta y/of posesion of the drugs.

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« Reply #513 on: July 13, 2007, 08:03:30 PM »

Re: Crime In Aruba
Old  Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 04:50 PM
I felt very uneasy during my last trip to the island in March. My rental car was surrounded twice as I drove by the RIU resort during a labor change...both times workers jumped in front of my car while other workers tried surrounding it in hopes I guess that they could stop the car...little did they know that I would have hit them if they didn't get out of the way.

Also, another PLBR member was mugged on the sidewalk while walking back from the Westin and was badly beaten and robbed by three men who disappeared into the RIU construction fenced area.....also, very close friends were robbed in their rental home while they slept and their jewerly, camera, some cash, binoculars, etc along with their wallets were stolen.

We were also "followed" twice early in the evening walking back up along the front sidewalk from Salt n Peppers to Playa Linda.....

So, I was A LOT more aware this trip and had creepy feelings in the evening everytime we went out. Will it stop me from returning? Not in 2008 it won't, but down the road it might. I'm from NY and I'm quite used to feeling creepy, but I don't need to spend this kind of money in a place where my concerns were laughed at to feel creepy. I saw no visability teams on Palm Beach the whole three weeks I was there and no police presence either.

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« Reply #514 on: July 13, 2007, 08:57:52 PM »

Re: I hope this does not happen in Aruba
 Monday, June 18th, 2007, 02:42 PM
Now, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but; As previously reported here, we parked in the lot acros from Playa Linda, next to Dunkin Donuts and left the Toyota Yaris there overnight. The headlight covers and the front grille were stolen sometime during the night. We called the Polis and they took a report. The Officer advised this was a common occurance with popular vehicles and we should park in the resort lot at night.
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« Reply #515 on: July 13, 2007, 09:05:56 PM »

Re: I hope this does not happen in Aruba
 Friday, July 6th, 2007, 08:37 AM
Something like this DID happen to friends of ours on Aruba a couple of years ago.

They parked the car in the lot at their timeshare after dinner one night and the next morning they were going to make a trip to Dunkin Donuts. Their car was gone.

They filed a police report and were told that auto theft is fairly common on the island. The friends who experienced this loss are police officers.

They returned home and realized their credit card had been charged $22,000.00 for the "missing car". They apparently had not read the fine print on their credit card that did not offer additional coverage for rentals out of the country. Eventually this charge was reversed, but only after months and months of haggling with the rental company and credit card company -- where could a car go??? It's an island for gods sakes!

The following year, the car was found on the other side of the island. It had been stripped.

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Re: More trouble in Aruba!!!!

Thursday, July 5th, 2007, 11:32 AM
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Tuesday sometime after midnight, on a basis of extensive investigation on part of detectives and the police made on Monday, a special team of police was in charge of an invasion done at a house with the purpose to detain a man H.S. Lacle, aka Pito. He's a suspect of throwing a hand grenade at a house in Paradera.
The team arrived at a house near the hotels in Noord (Saliña Cerca) and worked on a plan to attack. A sign was given and the officials with sophisticated weapons, entered the house in Saliña Cerca, and here they apprehended Pito, who was in company of his girlfriend.
Immediately the team ordered the man to lie down on his belly so they can cuff his hands in the back, which he did. The House was dark because there was no electricity. The house was still under construction this is the reason for having no connection. The apprehension went so quick that Pito didn't have a chance to react.
Congratulations go to the police department with the swift action done on Tuesday in Saliña Cerca, Noord. Pito was transferred to the police office in Santa Cruz, where he is still detained. Pito is now considered a dangerous suspect.

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« Reply #516 on: July 14, 2007, 02:23:25 AM »

Thanks bleached!
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Polis investigando posible intento di homicidio:
Auto a dal persona, lastre varios meter y lague den condicion critico

 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Banda di 12:30’or di anochi a sosode un incidente basta serio caminda ta parce man criminal tin envolvi den e asunto aki.

Tin indicacion cu esaki lo por ta un intento di homicidio premedita. E chofer di un pickup ta sospechoso di a alcanza Orlando Antonio Flores Pinedo di 53 aña, naci dia 12 di April 1954, lastre varios meter leu y lague benta ariba caya banda di Karishma.

Departamento di Investigacion Tecnico y Recherche ta trahando den e caso aki. Prome cu nos ciere di edicion, e ultimo informe a indica cu polis tabata tras di e pista di un pick up doble cabina color berde cu a ser mira den cercania di un nightclub na Wilhelminastraat.

Te cu nos ciere di edicion e condicion di e victima tabata hopi critico. DIARIO lo trece mas informacion di e caso aki den nos proximo edicion.


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police investigando posible attempt of homicidio:
car owing to strike person, lastre several metre y lague in condicion critico


oranjestad (aan): near of 12:30’or of night owing to sosode one incidente enough earnest caminda is seems hand criminal have envolvi in the asunto here.

have indicacion cu this will can is one attempt of homicidio premedita. the chofer of one pickup is sospechoso of owing to alcanza orlando antonio flores pinedo of 53 year, naci day 12 of april 1954, lastre several metre far y lague throw upstairs caya near of karishma.

departamento of investigacion tecnico y recherche is trahando in the caso here. first cu we ciere of edicion, the ultimo informe owing to indica cu police was behind the pista of one pick up doble cabina color berde cu owing to being see in cercania of one nightclub at wilhelminastraat.

till cu we ciere of edicion the condicion of the victima was much critico. daily paper will trece more informacion of the caso here in we proximo edicion.

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Homber a bati muher dilanti hopi hende
 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Diadomingo marduga hopi hende a keda babuca con un homber a sinta bati y maltrata un muher. Mesora nan a avisa polis cu a presenta den fraccion di seconde mientras algun balente a bay interveni den e problema di e pareha y a stop e abuso tumando lugar.

Na yegada di polis despues di a tende e version na e sitio polis a bay over na detene e homber abusador aki, esaki a pone hopi hende den cercania bati man ora cu polis a detene. Ademas a avisa e dama pa e bay policlinica pa ricibi atencion medico y despues e por pasa na warda di polis pa denuncia e maltrato aki.


Online Pap translation:

man owing to beat muher fast much person

oranjestad (aan): Diadomingo marduga much person owing to stay babuca con one man owing to sit beat y maltrata one muher. at once they owing to avisa police cu owing to present in fraccion of seconde while some balente owing to bay interveni in the problem of the pareha y owing to stop the abuse tumando lugar.

at arrival of police after of owing to hear the version at the sitio police owing to bay over at detene he abusador here, this owing to place much person in cercania beat hand hour cu police owing to detene. besides owing to avisa the lady for her bay policlinica for ricibi atencion medico y after the can happen at keep of police for denuncia the maltrato here.

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DAMA A ATRAPA SU BOYFRIEND TA TRIP CU UN EX-AMIGA
 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Den fin di siman, Polis a haya sa cu na un Resort un homber a confronta problema cu su amiga. Tabata den oranan di atardi a drenta informe na Central di Polis, cu na e Resort a surgi discusion y a termina den bringamento y destruccion. Na yegada di un unidad di polis, e homber di inicialnan MG di 27 aña ta declara cu su mucha muher di inicialnan J.G. a gare den compania cu un otro mucha muher cu tabata su ex amiga (ex-chick). E ex-chick aki ta labora na e Resort. E homber a djis topa cune eynan y a bay papia cune.

Loke a pasa a para bira un problema fastioso, discusion y a termina den pelea entre e homber M.G. y su amiga. Na dado momento e amiga a lanza un piedra den direccion di auto di su amigo. Consecuentemente e obheto a dal e auto y a destrui finalmente windshield.

E amiga mientras tanto a move for di e lugar pa cual polis despues di a scucha e version, na bay na cas di e amiga di denunciante.

Na e cas den Duartestraat, polis a localiza e amiga J.G., el a confirma di a confronta problema cu su amigo MG. y a manda piedra riba e auto. Tambe nan a discuti y bringa cu otro. Durante e pelea J.G. a ricibi sla na man pia cara.

Aki Polis a avisa J.G. cu despues e sali di Hospital pa tratamento, y si acaso e ta desea e por pasa na despacho di Recherche entrega denuncia contra di su amigo. Pero J.G. a laga sa cu e no ta bay Hospital y tampoco ta entrega keho contra di su amigo M.G.

Mama di e mucha muher a laga sa di tuma contacto cu M.G. pa con yega na un areglo e daño Mientras tanto e mucha homber tampoco no ta desea pa entrega denuncia contra su mucha muher.


Online Pap translation:

lady owing to atrapa his boyfriend is trip cu one ex-amiga

oranjestad (aan): in end of week, police owing to achieve know cu at one resort one man owing to confronta problem cu his girlfriend. was in oranan of nightfall owing to enter informe at central of police, cu at the resort owing to surgi discusion y owing to termina in bringamento y destruccion. at arrival of one unidad of police, he of inicialnan mg of 27 year is declara cu his child muher of inicialnan j.g. owing to gare in compania cu one another child muher cu was his ex girlfriend (ex-chick). the ex-chick here is labora at the resort. he owing to immidiately come across cune eynan y owing to bay talk cune.

thing owing to happen owing to stop become one problem fastioso, discusion y owing to termina in action among he m.g. y his girlfriend. at dado instant the girlfriend owing to lanza one stone in direccion of car of his amigo. consecuentemente the obheto owing to strike the car y owing to destrui finalmente windshield.

the girlfriend all the time owing to actuate for of the lugar for cual police after of owing to listen the version, at bay at home of the girlfriend of denunciante.

at the cas in duartestraat, police owing to localiza the girlfriend j.g., past owing to confirma of owing to confronta problem cu his amigo mg. y owing to send stone on the car. also they owing to discuti y fight cu another. during the action j.g. owing to ricibi sla at hand leg cara.

here police owing to avisa j.g. cu after the leave of hospital for tratamento
, y if acaso the is desea the can happen at despacho of recherche entrega denuncia contra of his amigo. but j.g. owing to let know cu the do not bay hospital y niether is entrega complaint contra of his amigo m.g.

mother of the child muher owing to let know of take contacto cu m.g. for con arrive at one areglo the damage all the time the boy niether do not desea for entrega denuncia contra his child muher.

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« Reply #518 on: July 16, 2007, 11:03:54 AM »

AZLady posted this last night, from the "new" "old" archive. A post by Herkimer (Houston TX) posted Thu Jun 30, 2005. This looks like Diario:

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ORANJESTAD (AAN): -- Corte den Prome Instancia lo sigui trata Diahuebs awor e caso contra e homber Lorenzo G. di 18 aña di edad, procedente di isla di St. Vincent, acusa di a abusa sexualmente y a maltrata un agente policial femenino na November 2003.


Corte a cuminza cu e caso delicado aki dia 20 di Augustus ultimo, pero a pospone pa (entre otro) duna Ministerio Publico oportunidad pa laga haci testnan adicional riba e muestranan di DNA cu a haya den e condon cu G. a usa riba su victima.

Por corda cu Huez a bisa esten cu el a dicidi pa pidi pa e testnan adicional aki pa kita tur duda den e asunto, sigur mirando cu e sospechoso a nenga desde prome momento y nunca no a duna declaracionnan contradictorio.

Otro motibo pakico a pospone e caso na Augustus tabata cu Huez kier scucha e victima mes como testigo riba peticion repetido di Ministerio Publico pa haya un vista menos vago di Lorenzo G. y huzga mihor cua declaracion tin mas peso den e situacion di un contra un aki.

Biaha pasa, Ministerio Publico a haci e peticion pa laga e polis testigua mucho laat, despues cu ya caba e dama a sigui gran parti di e tratamiento sinta riba tribuna den Corte.

Huez a indica cu imposiblemente e por permiti un hende pa testigua e ora ey, mirando cu e chens cu su declaracionnan lo ta “limpi” lo tabata minimo, pasobra el a scucha tanto di e presentacion.

E violacion a sucede dia 22 di November 2003 rond di 1’or di madruga, caminda G. a ataca e polis na su apartamento na Savaneta, a pone cuchui na su garganta y a menaze cu morto.

E acto a bay acompaña cu gran brutalidad, na unda e sospechoso a scop e agente bente abao, a choke cu su mannan hinca den “washandjes” y a horke cu un cabuya di nylon.

Djey el a mara su mannan tras di su lomba cu e mes cabuya ey y a bise na Ingles: “I’m going to f..k you”, a pone un cushinchi riba su cabez y a bolbe menaze: “Don’t look or I’ll kill you”.

En total e homber a viola e muher cuatro biaha cu condon y e ultimo ey pa motibo cu e victima, den un intento pa descurashele, a convence cu e lo tin un malesa venerico.


No, I don't think this is Lorenzo VR - too young, and this seems to be a Lorenzo G.

Online Pap translation:

oranjestad (aan): -- corte in first instancia will follow deal diahuebs now the caso contra he lorenzo g. of 18 year of edad, procedente of island of st. vincent, acusa of owing to abusa sexualmente y owing to maltrata one agent policial female at november 2003.

corte owing to cuminza cu the caso delicado here day 20 of august ultimo, but owing to pospone for (entre otro) give ministerio publico oportunidad for let haci testnan adicional on the muestranan of dna cu owing to achieve in the condon cu g. owing to using on his victima.

can corda cu huez owing to tell esten cu past owing to dicidi for ask for her testnan adicional here for less all doubt in the asunto, assure mirando cu the sospechoso owing to deny by first instant y never not owing to give declaracionnan contradictorio.

another motibo pakico owing to pospone the caso at august was cu huez wanted listen the victima self because; witness on peticion repetido of ministerio publico for achieve one vista less vago of lorenzo g. y judge mihor cua declaracion have more weight in the situation of one contra one here.

trip happen, ministerio publico owing to haci the peticion for let the police testigua mucho late, after cu already end the lady owing to follow great part of the tratamiento sit on rostrum in corte.

huez owing to indica cu imposiblemente the can permiti a for testigua the hour ey, mirando cu the chens cu his declaracionnan will is “limpi” will was minimo, because past owing to listen tanto of the presentacion.

the violacion owing to sucede day 22 of november 2003 rond of 1’or of madruga, caminda g. owing to ataca the police at his apartment at savaneta, owing to place cuchui at his throat y owing to menaze cu dead.

the acto owing to bay acompaña cu great brutalidad, at where the sospechoso owing to scop the agent bente abao, owing to choke cu his hands hinca in “washandjes” y owing to horke cu one cabuya of nylon.

djey past owing to mara his hands behind his back cu the self cabuya ey y owing to bise at ingles: “i’m going to f..k you”, owing to place one cushinchi on his cabez y owing to go back menaze: “don’t look or i’ll kill you”.

provided that overall he owing to viola the muher cuatro trip cu condon y the ultimo ey for motibo cu the victima, in one attempt for descurashele, owing to convence cu the will have one ailment venerico.
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« Reply #519 on: July 17, 2007, 09:35:49 AM »

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Pickup confisca como e arma usa….
MUHER DETENI DEN CASO SERIO DI MALTRATO DIADOMINGO MARDUGA


ORANJESTAD(AAN):Relaciona cu e caso cu ya caba DIARIO a trece den su edicion di dialuna encuanto un victima cu a ser gedal pa un auto, polis a detene dialuna merdia e supuesto muher chofer cu a comete e acto aki.

Samira Guedez ta benta tras di trali despues cu el a entrega su mes na warda di polis y recherché a considera e caso aki uno hopi serio. E pickup cu ta pertenece na un tal T a keda confisca tambe cu e arma usa den e caso unda un victima a keda malamente herida.

Polis parce cu ainda no por kere e storia di e muher cu a entrega su mes y lo bay papia cu dos otro muher di fam T y L cu tabata den e pickup pa saca afor si realmente Samira Guedez tabata na stuur of e ta tapa pa cualkier otro cu tabata den auto.

Segun Samira Guedez e homber kende tabata para cu su guitara canto di caminda den Wilhelminastraat a toca un cancion pa nan locual el a haci tambe. Segun e muher deteni ta sigui splica cu nan a pidie fia nan su guitara locual el a haci tambe.

Na momento cu nan tabata toca cu e guitara e homber lo a haci cos di fresco cu un di nan. Na momento cu esey a pasa nan lo a sali bay cu e pickup full speed mientras cu e homber tabata tene na e auto.

Nan a pasa dilanti di warda di polis bay abao cu e homber ta lastra si cu a para pa pidi yudanza. Banda di Royal Plaza nan a nota cu e homber no tey mas A resulta cu el a cay y keda mal herida benta atras.

Ora cu e noticia a sali den DIARIO Samira Guedez a presenta na DIARIO unda el a bin acompaña pa e guitara tambe di e victima splicando polis su storia. E victima mester a wordo opera y tin basta sla na su curpa. Un caso cu lo sigui ser investiga pasobra polis ainda no por caba di compronde dikon e tres muhernan aki no a para dilanti di warda di polis ora cu nan a pasa eydilanti.

Kizas Samira Gudez ta tumando e culpa pa otronan cu lo tabata den auto ? Esaki tambe recherché lo saca afor a base di e investigacion cu ta sigui durante e dia di awe y ora cu TOD caba di haci nan investigacion riba e pickup cu a ser haya scondi na un cas na Tamarijn.



Online Pap translation:
pickup confisca because; the arm usa….
muher deteni in caso earnest of maltrato diadomingo marduga


oranjestad(aan):relaciona cu the caso cu already end daily paper owing to trece in his edicion of monday encuanto one victima cu owing to being gedal for one car, police owing to detene monday afternoon the supuesto muher chofer cu owing to comete the acto here.

samira guedez is throw behind trali after cu past owing to entrega his self at keep of police y recherché owing to considera the caso here uno much earnest. the pickup cu is pertenece at one such t owing to stay confisca also cu the arm using in the caso where one victima owing to stay malamente injury.

police seems cu still not can believe the storia of the muher cu owing to entrega his self y will bay talk cu two another muher of surname T y L cu was in the pickup for saca afor if genuinely samira guedez was at stuur or the is tapa for cualkier another cu was in car.

according samira guedez he that was stop cu his guitar canto of caminda in wilhelminastraat owing to toca one cancion for they locual past owing to haci also. according the muher deteni is follow splica cu they owing to pidie lend they his guitar locual past owing to haci also.

at instant cu they was toca cu the guitar he will owing to haci cos of fresco cu one of they. at instant cu esey owing to happen they will owing to leave bay cu the pickup full speed while cu he was as at the car. they owing to happen fast of keep of police bay abao cu he is lastra if cu owing to stop for ask yudanza. near of royal plaza they owing to notice cu he not tey more owing to resulta cu past owing to cay y stay bad injury throw behind.

hour cu the news owing to leave in daily paper samira guedez owing to present at daily paper where past owing to come acompaña for her guitar also of the victima splicando police his storia. the victima have to owing to wordo opera y have enough sla at his curpa. one caso cu will follow being investiga because police still not can end of compronde dikon the three muhernan here not owing to stop fast of keep of police hour cu they owing to happen eydilanti.

kizas samira gudez is tumando the culpa for others cu will was in car come across? this also recherché will saca afor owing to base of the investigacion cu is follow during the day of today y hour cu tod end of haci they investigacion on the pickup cu owing to being achieve scondi at one cas at tamarijn.

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MILITAR DI SAVANETA KAMP A HERIDA PERSONA DEN
CARLOS ‘N CHARLIE’S


ORANJESTAD (AAN): Informacion cu DIARIO ta dispone di dje ta indica cu un hoben militar den servicio di Savaneta Kamp lo tin cu bay responde pa su actonan dilanti Corte Militar pa su actonan. Tabata Diasabra marduga a drenta informe cu na Carlos ‘n Charlie’s a tuma lugar un caso di maltrato serio cu un boter. Den DIARIO di Dialuna mes a publica fotonan y pa awe, via di vocero policial ta publica e rapport oficial di Polis di e caso.

Tur cos a cuminza ora cu un unidad di Polis, tirando un bista den Weststraat a worde acerca pa un guardia den servicio di e club nocturno menciona. E guardia a pidi polis pa nan por yama solicita pa un ambulans, pasobra durante di un pelea den establecimento un homber a worde gedal pa un boter den cabez cu consecuencia e victima a ricibi un cap.

Polis mesora a reacciona riba e peticion y alaves a bay na e club pa atende e caso. E victima a resulta di ta di inicial K., y durante cu polis ta atende net tabata pasando e sospechoso cu a comete e maltrato.

El a mustra dede den su direccion, y Polis a detene mesora. Ta trata aki di e homber di inicialnan E D M..di 21 aña y ta naci na Republica Dominicano. E ta worde sospecha di a maltrata e victima cu boter.

E sospechoso a declara di a bringa cu un tal K. Mientras ambulans a percura pa transporta e victima pa direccion Hospital.

Pa loke ta e sospechoso E.D.M., a resulta cu e ta un militar pa cual Polis a yama funcionario di Marechaussee pa sigui atende e caso.



Online Pap translation:

militar of savaneta kamp owing to injury person in
carlos ‘n charlie’s


oranjestad (aan): informacion cu daily paper is dispone of dje is indica cu one young militar in servicio of savaneta kamp will have cu bay responde for his actonan fast corte militar for his actonan. was saturday marduga owing to enter informe cu at carlos ‘n charlie’s did take lugar one caso of maltrato earnest cu one boter. in daily paper of monday self owing to publica fotonan y for today, via of vocero policial is publica the rapport oficial of police of the caso.

all cos owing to cuminza hour cu one unidad of police, tirando one view in weststraat owing to worde acerca for one guardia in servicio of the club nocturno menciona. the guardia owing to ask police for they can calling solicita for one ambulance, because during of one action in establecimento one man owing to worde gedal for one boter in cabez cu consecuencia the victima owing to ricibi one cap.

police at once owing to reacciona on the peticion y alaves owing to bay at the club for atende the caso. the victima owing to resulta of is of inicial k., y during cu police is atende just was pasando the sospechoso cu owing to comete the maltrato.

past owing to show finger in his direccion, y police owing to detene at once. is deal here of he of inicialnan the d m..di 21 year y is naci at republica dominicano.

the is worde sospecha of owing to maltrata the victima cu boter. the sospechoso owing to declara of owing to fight cu one such k. while ambulance owing to percura for transporta the victima for direccion hospital.

for thing is the sospechoso e.d.m., owing to resulta cu the is one militar for cual police owing to calling funcionario of marechaussee for follow atende the caso.

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Ya no ta solamente “sugar dad, sugar mom”
E GUY DI BO YIU MUHER POR TA UN “CHULO” CU TA EXPLOTE!

Mayornan, alerta!


ORANJESTAD (AAN) -- Ora materialismo ta hunga un rol primordial cerca hende, nan no ta midi kico nan ta haci pa haya placa facil, y esey ta e caso di cierto hendenan homber cu den mayoria di pais ta conoci como “chulo”. Na Aruba e palabra tin mesun nificacion cu na otro camindanan.

E practica aki realmente ta conoci na henter mundo. E ta un negoshi den cual e producto pa bende ta nada otro cu e curpa di hende muher pa medio di prostitucion. Di locual e hendenan muher ta gana pa dia, e “chulo” ta haya como 80% y e otro 20% nan ta lague pa gastonan di nan “sirbido” cu por ta incluso nan propio casa, chick, amiga, etc. E por ta algo cu ta sosode riba caya, of den un establecimento organiza, pero e ta un tipo di explotacion di e ser humano cu ta penaliza pa ley, ora e ta worde comproba.

Un informante di DIARIO, tin un sospecha grandi cu na Aruba un sorto di desaroyo asina ta tumando lugar, pero no den e mundo formal di prostitucion, manera ta sosode pafo di nos frontera, manera nos a expone den nos introduccion, sino hopi disimula y no diariamente, sino particularmente den fin di siman y bao di hobennan.

Pesey, lo ta bon pa mayornan cu lesa e articulo aki keda alerta ya cu tin cierto señalnan cu por sirbi pa bati alarma. Y esaki ta parce un fenomeno adicional na locual ya den nos comunidad ta conoci como “sugar dad, sugar mom”.

Nos fuente di informacion no por a bisa nos si ta hopi casi tin of ta un ke otro, pero e hecho ta cu e por a constata cierto actitudnan straño, como trahador di hotel cu ta observa y vigila cierto movecionnan di parehanan local hoben, cu ta bishita e hotel. E pareha hoben ta drenta comosifuera cu nan ta “keiro” inocentemente, ta dal un cana den casino sali bay sinta den lobby, ta move bay bebe un refresco y scucha musica, y na dado momento e mucha homber ta entabla conversacion cu un turista sinta su so.

E prototipo di e turista ta: Mericano, di edad madura, y cu aparentemente ta so. E fuente di informacion a haya sa cu ta trata di parehanan di guy y chick. E mucha homber cu ta bishita e mucha muher na cas formalmente, cu ta cana bon bisti, cu ta yega den auto sea propio of di su mayornan, pero cu na prome instancia e ta mustra un cabayero.

Nan, aparentemente, ta bishita e hotel pa djis pasa un rato diferente y nan ta busca conversacion cu e tipo di turistanan describi caba, y despues di un ora mas of menos, e guy cu e hobencita ta cana hunto cu e turista.

Pero locual a lanta e curiosidad di nos fuente di informacion, y cu a pone haya malicia y cay na cuenta cu algo straño por ta pasando, ta cu na dado momento, e mucha homber su so ta keda cana den e hardin di hotel, rond di e pool, despues ta bin sinta un rato den lobby, lanta bay cana atrobe den e hardin, tira un bista riba su holoshi, te cu el a bolbe topa cu e mucha muher cu no ta mustra contento.

E ora ey nan tene man di otro y sali for di e lugar. Y no ta un ni dos biaha, pero den diferente ocasion e persona concerni a mira desaroyonan asina, cu ta pone pensa cu e guy ey ta un “chulo” cu ta saca probecho di un mucha muher cu ta enamora di dje y ta haci kico e ta mande haci contal di no perde.

E fuente di informacion a menciona cu el a yega di papia cu su hefe tocante e situacion aki, y nan ta keda vigila, y den dos caso nan a logra di haya sa e nomber di un mucha muher y hasta, pone e respectivo mayornan na haltura.

Pero e no ta algo cu sosode tur ora. Di otro banda, personal di un hotel nan no mag invadi e privacidad di e turistanan, pues nan no por wak kico por ta tumando lugar den nan camber. E turista tanten e tin e yabi di porta den su man, e sa ken e ta invita of laga pasa.

Locual si e fuente di informacion a pidi nos ta, pa DIARIO ta un portavoz pa alerta mayornan. Esnan cu tin yiu homber cu no ta trahando of cu tin un trabao unda e no ta gana suficiente pa duna su mes cierto luhonan, of cumpra cosnan pa cas cu e famia no por yega na dje cu nan entrada, pa investiga, pa saca afo for di unda e placa ta sali.

Muy posiblemente e mucha hombernan aki no tin problema cu husticia; posiblemente e y mescos e mucha muher ta bayendo algun school. Pero e hecho cu e por ta bibando facil a custia di su mucha muher, pues cu e ta haci trabao di “chulo” y ta prostitui su pareha podise ta castigable na Aruba tambe, si esaki por worde constata pa autoridad.

Y logicamente, e mayornan cu ta nota un comportacion straño den nan yiu muher, si despues cu e ta sali cu su guy e ta bin cas manera cansa, cu mesora cu e yega cas ta core bay baña, kizas e ta mustra malestar y ta saca comosifuera el a come algo cu a bay malo cu su stoma; si e ta dispidi di su guy cu cara rabia pero despues e ta core yame y si nan ta sinti cu nan yiu muher tin dependencia di e mucha homber: paga tino! E mucha muher aki por ta eherciendo prostitucion di e forma aki, pa complace su partner, mientras e mayornan ta completamente confia cu e hoben ta un guy!

No solamente na San Nicolas y door di hendenan muher di afo e ofishi di prostitucion por tuma lugar. Tin formanan fini tambe, y tristo ta cu algun di nos mesun muchanan local por ta envolvi pa e simple hecho cu tin muchanan homber cu kier haya luho di e manera facil, y nan ta capaz hasta di uza nan mes chick contal di logra esaki.

E fenomeno aki ta un adicional na e asina yama “sugar dad, sugar mom” cu tambe tin instancianan na Aruba cu a yega di comproba cu ta existi. Esaki ta e adultonan cu ta busca hobennan pa tin relacion sexual a cambio di cosnan material cu nan ta duna nan. Mayornan, un bez mas habri wowo y proteha boso yiunan di tur e peligronan universal aki, di cual ni nos isla chikito ta scapa mas!



Online Pap translation below.
(not “prettied up” … This is warning parents about their children being prostituted, I *think* ... seems to describe a certain MO. Hope we can get a better translation - just the gist of it)

already do not only “sugar dad, sugar mom”
the guy of you child muher can is one “chulo” cu is explote!
parents, alerta!


oranjestad (aan) -- hour materialismo is play one rol primordial close person, they do not measure kico they're haci for achieve coin facil, y esey is the caso of cierto hendenan man cu in majority of country is conoci because; “chulo”. at aruba the word have same nificacion cu at another camindanan. the practica here genuinely is conoci at all world. the is one business in cual the producto for sell is nothing another cu the curpa of person muher by prostitucion. of locual the hendenan muher is earn for day, the “chulo” is achieve because; 80% y the another 20% they're lague for gastonan of they “sirbido” cu can is incluso they own casa, chick, girlfriend, etc. the can is algo cu is sosode on caya, or in one establecimento organiza, but the is one type of explotacion of the being human cu is penaliza for ley, hour the is worde comproba. one informante of daily paper, have one sospecha big cu at aruba one sort of desaroyo so is tumando lugar, but not in the world serious of prostitucion, as is sosode pafo of we boundary, as we owing to expone in we introduccion, but much disimula y not daily, but particularmente in end of week y bao of hobennan. pesey, will is good for parents cu read the articulo here stay alerta already cu have cierto señalnan cu can serve for beat alarma. y this is seems one fenomeno adicional at locual already in we comunidad is conoci because; “sugar dad, sugar mom”. we fountain of informacion {:love that - "fountain of information"!} not can owing to tell we if is much casi have or is one want another, but the mature is cu the can owing to constata cierto actitudnan odd, because; trahador of hotel cu is observa y vigila cierto movecionnan of parehanan local young, cu is visit the hotel. the pareha young is enter comosifuera cu they're “keiro” inocentemente, is strike one march in casino leave bay sit in lobby, is actuate bay drink one refresco y listen musica, y at dado instant the boy is entabla conversacion cu one tourist sit his only. the prototipo of the tourist ta: mericano, of edad madura, y cu apparently is only. the fountain of informacion owing to achieve know cu is deal of parehanan of guy y chick. the boy cu is visit the child muher at home formalmente, cu is march good dress, cu is arrive in car as own or of his parents, but cu at first instancia the is show one cabayero. they, apparently, is visit the hotel for immidiately happen one rato various y they're busca conversacion cu the type of turistanan describi end, y after of one hour more or less, the guy cu the hobencita is march together cu the tourist. but locual owing to arise the curiosidad of we fountain of informacion, y cu owing to place achieve malicia y cay at cuenta cu algo odd can is pasando, is cu at dado instant, the boy his only is stay march in the garden of hotel, rond of the pool, after is come sit one rato in lobby, arise bay march again in the garden, throw one view on his holoshi, till cu past owing to go back come across cu the child muher cu do not show contento. the hour ey they as hand of another y leave for of the lugar. y do not one neither two trip, but in various ocasion the person concerni owing to see desaroyonan so, cu is place think cu the guy ey is one “chulo” cu is saca probecho of one child muher cu is enamora of dje y is haci kico the is mande haci contal of not lose. the fountain of informacion owing to menciona cu past owing to arrive of talk cu his boss tocante the situation here, y they're stay vigila, y in two caso they owing to succeed of achieve know the name of one child muher y even, place the respectivo parents at height. but the do not algo cu sosode all hour. of another near, personal of one hotel they not mag invadi the privacidad of the turistanan, then they not can look at kico can is tumando lugar in they camber. the tourist adieu the have the key of door in his hand, the know that the is invita or let happen. locual if the fountain of informacion owing to ask we is, for daily paper is one portavoz for alerta parents. esnan cu have son cu do not trahando or cu have one trabao where the do not earn sufficient for give his self cierto luhonan, or cumpra cosnan for cas cu the family not can arrive at dje cu they entrance, for investiga, for saca afo for of where the coin is leave. muy posiblemente the child hombernan here not have problem cu husticia; posiblemente the y same the child muher is bayendo some school. but the mature cu the can is bibando facil owing to custia of his child muher, then cu the is haci trabao of “chulo” y is prostitui his pareha podise is castigable at aruba also, if this can worde constata for autoridad. y logicamente, the parents cu is notice one comportacion odd in they child muher, if after cu the is leave cu his guy the is come cas as cansa, cu at once cu the arrive cas is core bay bath, kizas the is show malestar y is saca comosifuera past owing to come algo cu owing to bay bad cu his stoma; if the is dispidi of his guy cu cara angry but after the is core yame y if they're feel cu they child muher have dependencia of the child homber: pay tino! the child muher here can is eherciendo prostitucion of the form here, for complace his partner, while the parents is completamente confia cu the young is one guy! not only at san nicolas y door of hendenan muher of afo the handicraft of prostitucion can take lugar. have formanan fine also, y tristo is cu some of we same children local can is envolvi for her simple mature cu have children man cu wanted achieve luho of the as facil, y they're capaz even of employ they self chick contal of succeed this. the fenomeno here is one adicional at the so calling “sugar dad, sugar mom” cu also have instancianan at aruba cu owing to arrive of comproba cu is existi. this is the adultonan cu is busca hobennan for have relacion sexual owing to cambio of cosnan material cu they're give they. parents, one bez more open eye y proteha you yiunan of all the peligronan universal here, of cual neither we island diminutive is scapa more!
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