Lively Case Discussion #661 7/20 - 7/21/2007

[Spock]

If a speedboat was used, 5 miles was 5 min, they would have gone out at least 15 min or 15 miles, and then there is no chance at all.

[San]

[sandy leiva]

Am having trouble copying and pasting article but Ill give the translation if anyone else canbringit up .  its in todays diario under localnews at bottomof page.  % arrested for Human traficing " loverboy style"  wasnt Joran associated with pimping this way?.

Is this the article Sandy?   yes thanks

5 PERSONA DETENI PA TRAFICACION DI HENDE
 

5 detained for human traficing


ORANJESTAD(AAN): Recientemente na Hulanda, 5 persona di Zwolle y Kampen di 18 pa 25 aña, a wordo deteni riba sospecho di traficacion di hende. Tres muher a wordo pusha den prostitucion pa e grupo aki, cu a uza e asina yama “metodo Lover boy”.  

recently in Holland 5 persons from Zwolie and Kampen  ages 18 to 25 yrs of age were detained for suspiision of human traficing.  3 woman were pushed into prostitution for the group known here who use the name Loverboys.

E sospechosonan principal di 19 aña, ta deteni ainda. E victimanan di 16, 18 y 20 aña, ta di vecindario di Zwolle. Un di nan tabata trahando como “prostituta di bentana”, mientras cu un di e otronan tabata traha como escort.

The principal suspect is 19 yrs old and was detained for prostituting the victems aged 16, 18 and 20 yrs of agein the Zwolle area.  One of the ladies was used as a "window Prostititute" while the others worked as escorts.

Segun un vocero di polis, e muhernan a traha lunanan largo pa e “loverboys”. E caso a yega na conocimento di autoridadnan ora cu a purba busca un caminda na Amsterdam, pa e mucha muher di 18 aña traha como prostituta.

According to police reportsthe women would worl for many months for the groups. The case came to light when the 18 yr old was traficed in amsterdam.

E persona cu ta huur e sorto di cambernan aki a alerta polis, pasobra e tabata haya cu e mucha muher tabata parce hopi jong y cu tabata mustra cu e mucha muher a wordo forza pa hasi e trabao aki.

Someone inthe vicinty there noticed and called police.  kThey (police) notes the females used were young and forced to work there.

Diahuebs polis a detene 3 persona di Rumania na Zandvoort y Bentveld, sospecha di traficacion di hende y forza hende bay den prostitucion. Despues di e detencionnan aki, polis a logra libera 3 muher di Rumania di edad 17, 18 y 32, for di man di e traficantenan aki di hende.

Thursday plice detained 3 more people from rumania,zandvoort and bentyeld suspected of human traficing and forcing the victems into prostitution.  The Plice after detaining the 3 men liberated 3 females in the rumanian area ages 17, 18 and 32 from those human traficers.

Best I could do..  wasnt Joran said to have been associated with this group or was it just the style he was associated with in Aruba--just curious.  s.l.

[Easywriter]

Logic would dictate that a grid be formed for the area of interest and the search would move from its closest point from land parallel with the island.  Each row of the grid would move farther away from the island.

If the water takes a sudden drop to a depth of 800 feet 3 miles offshore then that would be the place to start.

[Anna]

Anna,

That looks like a pic od Sander and Kawish to me..Maybee Sander is on vacation in Aruba??

Maybe so.  I thought he was going to The Netherlands to be a famous soccer player?  And Kawish doesn't drink so I know that is a glass of water in his hand, too?

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[sandy leiva]

http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=1&story_id=42115
it is in English on this site I posted this morning....Human traffic/Netherlands

 thanks didnt see it before just catching up now.  sl

[Rob]

Wonder who Sander is staying since it seems they sold the house in Malmok.

[Observer]

If a speedboat was used, 5 miles was 5 min, they would have gone out at least 15 min or 15 miles, and then there is no chance at all.

Lets take Lorenzos boat for example..Do you think that a large fish cage would even fit on a cigarette boat??

[Spock]

Logic would dictate that a grid be formed for the area of interest and the search would move from its closest point from land parallel with the island.  Each row of the grid would move farther away from the island.

If the water takes a sudden drop to a depth of 800 feet 3 miles offshore then that would be the place to start.

If they have a tip and know where exactly to search, they may find her. If they don't have a tip and she is more than a few miles out, the odds are very long. if a speedboat was used, they will never find her, she is simply too far out. Let's hope they have a tip or a witness.

[Observer]

Wonder who Sander is staying since it seems they sold the house in Malmok.

He has lots of buddies in Aruba..For all we know Joran is there right now and he is staying with the sloots..

[Easywriter]

Ya know, there is something creepy about that advertisement for Levitra with all those guys standing in that field with a grin on their faces.  

[Katysmom]

Ya know, there is something creepy about that advertisement for Levitra with all those guys standing in that field with a grin on their faces.  

Are they in a poppy field?

[San]

Wonder who Sander is staying since it seems they sold the house in Malmok.

My guess would be the Sloots

[Easywriter]

Ya know, there is something creepy about that advertisement for Levitra with all those guys standing in that field with a grin on their faces.  

Are they in a poppy field?

I don't know what those guys are "up" to in that field?  

[robots]

If a speedboat was used, 5 miles was 5 min, they would have gone out at least 15 min or 15 miles, and then there is no chance at all.

Lets take Lorenzos boat for example..Do you think that a large fish cage would even fit on a cigarette boat??

it could, but it would look ridicluous

 

[Observer]

Logic would dictate that a grid be formed for the area of interest and the search would move from its closest point from land parallel with the island.  Each row of the grid would move farther away from the island.

If the water takes a sudden drop to a depth of 800 feet 3 miles offshore then that would be the place to start.

If they have a tip and know where exactly to search, they may find her. If they don't have a tip and she is more than a few miles out, the odds are very long. if a speedboat was used, they will never find her, she is simply too far out. Let's hope they have a tip or a witness.

I totally agree..It's like looking for a needle in a haystack..

This is a pic of a average cigarette boat if that is what Lorenzo has..They would have to hold the cage on the front on the boat and do it during the night as it would be very obvious if they used that big cage. Plus it only holds what 2 people?I would imagine Koens boat would be more logical.

http://tinyurl.com/2es6pf

[robots]

she is on land

IMO

[Katysmom]

Ya know, there is something creepy about that advertisement for Levitra with all those guys standing in that field with a grin on their faces.  

Are they in a poppy field?

I don't know what those guys are "up" to in that field?  

CUTE, EASY

[Easywriter]

Will Dave be on Geraldo by satellite, or by phone?  Who else will be on?

[San]

Will Dave be on Geraldo by satellite, or by phone?  Who else will be on?

I'm not sure Easy.  He was by phone yesterday.