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« Reply #900 on: July 25, 2007, 02:21:46 PM »

would be neat if someone were able to put together a hierarchy of power, in pyramid form, for Aruba. relationships to suspects optional.

that may make it easier to follow "up the chain" for involvement in the corruption and collusion of this case.

how credible would an investigation into ALE by KLPD in the end? it will probably take exposure from monkeys or others and blasted into mainstream media to cause extreme embarassment in order for accountability to be assigned.
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« Reply #901 on: July 25, 2007, 02:22:21 PM »

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That's why I dropped those posts in Anna. The person who posted this just didn't pull it out of a hat. Renfro was pushing the story at least by July 30th when these posts were made and Dilma Arends was plugging the pregnancy story early on. These were posted almost two years ago.


Yes, and I have to wonder why they are trotting it back out now.  Could Julia be still planning to write that book and this is laying the foundation for it?

Just because it was posted early on does not make it truthful.  I think during all the previous events, these pimps had discussed what to do in the event something went wrong, how they could cover their tracks, etc.

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« Reply #902 on: July 25, 2007, 02:26:41 PM »

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would be neat if someone were able to put together a hierarchy of power, in pyramid form, for Aruba. relationships to suspects optional.

that may make it easier to follow "up the chain" for involvement in the corruption and collusion of this case.

how credible would an investigation into ALE by KLPD be in the end? it will probably take exposure from monkeys or others and blasted into mainstream media to cause extreme embarassment in order for accountability to be assigned.
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« Reply #903 on: July 25, 2007, 02:27:47 PM »

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would be neat if someone were able to put together a hierarchy of power, in pyramid form, for Aruba. relationships to suspects optional.

that may make it easier to follow "up the chain" for involvement in the corruption and collusion of this case.

how credible would an investigation into ALE by KLPD in the end? it will probably take exposure from monkeys or others and blasted into mainstream media to cause extreme embarassment in order for accountability to be assigned.


This might help some:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/HollowayFlow7.jpg
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« Reply #904 on: July 25, 2007, 02:28:25 PM »

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DirtyHand knows this


Maybe Karen Janssen is Dirty Hand.

(That's just conjecture...I haven't read Shango for awhile).

I cannot believe how inappropriate their relationship was is if this is true. What would the appropriate procedure be, if the situation were to be handled legally (if a close friend or relative of a prosecutor were accused of a crime)? I'd think it would need go to a different jurisdiction, like Curacao or the Netherlands. Of course, nothing went according to protocol where this case is concerned.


KJ could not have share this information to excuse herself, without jeopardizing her career I would think, and letting everyone including Anita know what slimeball PVS/and she were up to.   Remember the statement that "others would be hurt" if they told the truth of what happened?
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« Reply #905 on: July 25, 2007, 02:33:01 PM »

This might help some:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/HollowayFlow7.jpg[/quote]

klaasend: thanks !!!
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« Reply #906 on: July 25, 2007, 02:33:28 PM »

Well If this is true about Paul and Karin.. Jossy needs to investigate
and BLOW this whole thing out of the water.. This explains so much about this case if that is true
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« Reply #907 on: July 25, 2007, 02:35:39 PM »

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Well If this is true about Paul and Karin.. Jossy needs to investigate
and BLOW this whole thing out of the water.. This explains so much about this case if that is true


Last year, Jossy's paper named Karin Janssen Person of the Year.

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« Reply #908 on: July 25, 2007, 02:35:59 PM »

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KJ could not have share this information to excuse herself, without jeopardizing her career I would think, and letting everyone including Anita know what slimeball PVS/and she were up to.   Remember the statement that "others would be hurt" if they told the truth of what happened?


Certainly not...but was Dirty Hand actually sharing information with Simian or others? I always thought Dirty Hand was part of the coverup, as opposed to an informant.
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« Reply #909 on: July 25, 2007, 02:36:38 PM »

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Well If this is true about Paul and Karin.. Jossy needs to investigate
and BLOW this whole thing out of the water.. This explains so much about this case if that is true


Last year, Jossy's paper named Karin Janssen Person of the Year.

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We she didnt get our VOTE Wink
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« Reply #910 on: July 25, 2007, 02:36:55 PM »

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Well If this is true about Paul and Karin.. Jossy needs to investigate
and BLOW this whole thing out of the water.. This explains so much about this case if that is true


Last year, Jossy's paper named Karin Janssen Person of the Year.

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could have been sarcasm on Jossy's part ...
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« Reply #911 on: July 25, 2007, 02:37:34 PM »

No, she certainly didn't get mine!

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« Reply #912 on: July 25, 2007, 02:42:56 PM »

Jossy has always defended KJ and Jan vdStratten for some reason.  I think Jossy is motivated a great deal by politics which are apparently very complicated on One Happy.  He once said she cried abut some judge's ruling against her in this case.  Must have been very complicated for her but might explain why she would say we had no reason to think the boys were lying in regard to the security guards.  That would normally be one big DUH!

Because of Jossy I have always TRIED to give her the benefit of the doubt but the fact remains that there was a failure to collect evidence and prosecute and both of those things seem to fall under her scope.  At least, as best I can decipher their system.

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« Reply #913 on: July 25, 2007, 02:43:21 PM »

Hey Rob-

Is your source as impeccable as Stratten?  Laughing

sorry I just had to........I just think at this stage of the game we need sources to come forward. No slam intended either, just we are too bone weary of subterfuge I think or at least I surely am.....
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« Reply #914 on: July 25, 2007, 02:46:15 PM »

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That's why I dropped those posts in Anna. The person who posted this just didn't pull it out of a hat. Renfro was pushing the story at least by July 30th when these posts were made and Dilma Arends was plugging the pregnancy story early on. These were posted almost two years ago.


Yes, and I have to wonder why they are trotting it back out now.  Could Julia be still planning to write that book and this is laying the foundation for it?

Just because it was posted early on does not make it truthful.  I think during all the previous events, these pimps had discussed what to do in the event something went wrong, how they could cover their tracks, etc.

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Just more proof that Julia Renfro and her buddies were out trying to cloud the case early on in the investigation. If they were into the cocaine story two years ago and it had any truth to it they would have produced a body by now to make good on it. They haven't done shit. This story is one of the reasons Dompig got fired and hooted off the island for being a totally inept police chief.
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« Reply #915 on: July 25, 2007, 02:46:33 PM »

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Katysmom  I'm south of St. Louis.  Where are you from abouts?


I'm down by Branson


That's right.  I remember now.  Near Lake Taneycomo right?
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« Reply #916 on: July 25, 2007, 02:47:49 PM »

Dayhiker-

How long a period of time occurred between Michael Dompig's name being mixed up in all of this, and Dompig's dismissal?
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« Reply #917 on: July 25, 2007, 02:48:08 PM »

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I think the big panties were Anita's. Cool

I do too...

I don't think I am making the theory I am posing sound like I mean for it go... Rolling Eyes  but nevermind... always behind anyway.
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« Reply #918 on: July 25, 2007, 02:52:38 PM »

take all money raised for natalee holloway fund. accumulate until it reached a target dollar amount.

someone, behind the scenes, broker a deal with (for example) Dompig and beat the deal given to him for stepping aside as police commissioner. if he wrote a tell all book, revealing everything he knows about the investigation, i bet it could have potential to reach best seller status.

money may have to flex its muscle as a parallel to other means in extracting the whole truth regarding events dating back to May2005 through present.

food for thought....... hmmmmmmmm..........................
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« Reply #919 on: July 25, 2007, 02:52:42 PM »

What day did the MB kids arrive in Aruba?  Was it Wed. or Thurs?
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