Lively Case Discussion #664 7/24 - 7/25/2007

[Anna]

Dayhiker,

Yes, I suspect word came down from AHATA/ATA to can Dompig right after he made that program where not only did he talk about cocaine and Natalee being seen with it in her possession but not her using it, etc. and also made those absolutely horrific statements about the moving of the remains.  Digging up and relocation two or three times I believe he said as though talking about parking a car.

TPTB had to know that interview would leave us all stunned as it did.  Also about that time young Michael Dompig admitted to lying about GVC and turns out Dave Holloway had observed him hitting on the tourist girls along with other pimps in their hotel.

Makes one wonder why he was "in charge" in the first place especially after his retracted confession statements.  No wonder this investigation went no where, look who was heading it for most of the time.  

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[mrs. red]

Posted on FP from Zoltan's site:

**A SOURCE CONFIRMS TO ME THAT PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT AND KARIN JANSSEN WERE INDEED HAVING AN AFFAIR**

ANOTHER LAYER OF CORRUPTION AND COLLUSION THAT NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED.

an affair before this whole mess began ?

or after NH disappeared?

wonder how anita is taking this news leak ?

Wasn't this rumor floating around at the very beginning?

yes I thought one of the arubans said it.. don't remember which one though.

[klaasend]

What day did the MB kids arrive in Aruba?  Was it Wed. or Thurs?

Thursday

[ospainter]

What day did the MB kids arrive in Aruba?  Was it Wed. or Thurs?

Thurday

[ospainter]

What day did the MB kids arrive in Aruba?  Was it Wed. or Thurs?

Thursday

[Anna]

What day did the MB kids arrive in Aruba?  Was it Wed. or Thurs?

Thursday

Afternoon.  Many of them rode a bus to catch cheaper flight from Atlanta.

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[ospainter]

What day did the MB kids arrive in Aruba?  Was it Wed. or Thurs?

Thursday

I raised my hand, pick me, pick me.

Then I couldn't even spell it correctly.

I do wonder if they left at 4-5 am from Atlanta ? what time did they arrive on the island?

OS

[Kimmy53]

One of my ideas as to why they keep re-hashing and bringing up these theories is that the public in general has a very short attention span.  Most tend to take in what is spoon fed to them from these news shows(how sad is that) and believe them all to be true.  Usually the last thing mentioned about a story is what people take to be the truth.  

They are throwing things out there, hoping the last thing the public hears will be what they remember to be true.

I say it is a desperate attempt to make Aruba look less guilty of what they have done to this family

[Lala'sMom]

For the sake of argument, let us assume that Rob's info is correct.  

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:18 pm
If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake

Now, let's also assume that the 5th suspect is actually Paulus as so many have alluded to.  On the night in question, who might possibly be Paulus' alibi?  Just thinking here, nothing definite.

[ospainter]

What day did the MB kids arrive in Aruba?  Was it Wed. or Thurs?

Thursday

Afternoon.  Many of them rode a bus to catch cheaper flight from Atlanta.

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Then they didn't leave in the early hours.

Well then that gives them less time on the island than I had previously thought.

Thanks,

OS

[mrs. red]

I still think Dirtyhand is Julia... or maybe Anita.

 we haven't really looked at any women as being Dirty Hand...  

[nonesuche]

Kimmy-

I think you are exactly right and to a degree, it works. The last thing people hear is typically what they remember.

[Anna]

OS,

That is only from my memory and it has been a very long time but I do think they arrived mid afternoon.  I have never heard their flight described as leaving at any unusually early hour or anything to that effect.

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[Kimmy53]

For the sake of argument, let us assume that Rob's info is correct.  

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:18 pm
If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake

Now, let's also assume that the 5th suspect is actually Paulus as so many have alluded to.  On the night in question, who might possibly be Paulus' alibi? Just thinking here, nothing definite.

Oooo Ooooo - KJ?

[Rob]

Hey Rob-

Is your source as impeccable as Stratten?  

sorry I just had to........I just think at this stage of the game we need sources to come forward. No slam intended either, just we are too bone weary of subterfuge I think or at least I surely am.....

lmao!!!

good one!!

This is a real source. I believe this person is telling me the truth. Or I wouldn't have posted it.

Sorry I can't say who this is, but I think most know I don't make stuff up either.

If I was gonna make something up, it sure wouldn't be about KJ. I really haven't given her much thought in recent months.

I just think there is more to her than we all knew and I didn't think I would ever get to the bottom of her persona.

Guessing who it is won't help either. I'm not going to say who it is.

Several have asked and all have gotten the same answer...I'm not going to say.

I could not post it and just sit on it, but does that help? I don't know. I personally do not like when someone hives info without a source, but I also understand why it happens.

I wouldn't compare this to BOR. I am just relaying a dynamic of the case related to me. Not an allegation that someone was using drugs and without a source since the person is not here to defend themselves.

[Anna]

And now KJ is back in Holland, right?

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[BUCKSHOT]

For the sake of argument, let us assume that Rob's info is correct.  

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:18 pm
If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake

Now, let's also assume that the 5th suspect is actually Paulus as so many have alluded to.  On the night in question, who might possibly be Paulus' alibi?  Just thinking here, nothing definite.

good question: his bed will surely be his alibi. he can't remember whether or not he used the phone that night.

is he a sleep walker?...or better yet.....A SLEEP DRIVER??

[nonesuche]

Rob-

I"m glad you got my humor, I'm not dissing you, just wish sources would come forward. Nine times out of ten we learn who it is shortly thereafter  

I hope it is true ! Sure would splain some things !

[mrs. red]

Kimmy-

I think you are exactly right and to a degree, it works. The last thing people hear is typically what they remember.

That is exactly right. That's why having the old posts back brings so much new information forward, in a way.

I need to clarify my Lysol bottle theory....

what if they used ghb from CnCs and then used the liquid cocaine to "wake" their victims up?

To be clear, I am NOT buying the island mantra of she od on cocaine and had a heart attack, I am thinking more along the lines of it was given to her and they had to cover up "that shit" they would see... i.e. they gave her ghb in the club and coke afterwards... and then she fell and hit her head...

just trying to think outside the box a little... and tie in somethings that had been mentioned and how they might possibly fit in...

[ospainter]

OS,

That is only from my memory and it has been a very long time but I do think they arrived mid afternoon.  I have never heard their flight described as leaving at any unusually early hour or anything to that effect.

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For me it doesn't really matter, Thursday is a none issue to me, I travel I know what travel day is like. So do many, it is just so damn irritating to me me when the liars lie. I can't stand it. I just can't stand it.

I can see the young ladies arriving, hurrying to the room, putting on bathing suit and hitting the beach to get a tropical tan. And there is NOTHING wrong with that Julia....

OS