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« Reply #600 on: July 26, 2007, 04:36:15 PM »

You guys have me stressed...I can't talk Shango now...I am going to go do a little work.   Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

I don't know how Klaas does it after all this time.  She's a saint.
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« Reply #601 on: July 26, 2007, 04:36:56 PM »

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Hi Anna...Girl get from under that rock....bugs and worms are under there!! Shocked
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« Reply #602 on: July 26, 2007, 04:37:28 PM »

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I confess that I am not much into the S&S thing. But yesterday there was a re-post with a few sentences in French, and I think there were several others that included French. I remember being interested in that at the time - as a possible clue to identity. However, I simply could not take the time to "study" those posts.

French is not one of the "3 or 4" languages many on Aruba are likely speak - Pap, Dutch, Spanish, and English.

Folks there who came from The Netherlands might have some French - it's not uncommon in Europe (where many do speak at least a smattering of several languages).

Just thought I would throw that out as a possible avenue of research and speculation.


Hi MSMarple! I remember Simian saying something about being a blue blood frenchman. I'll see if I can't find the actual post.
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« Reply #603 on: July 26, 2007, 04:38:02 PM »

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Good eveninng Monkeys!

Good discussions going on tonight.
AZLady: I agree with so much of what you said in your last post. But I still have a burning question . . . were those PIMPS worthy of such a huge cover-up? You mentioned video of the assault and I agree, but I beleive if this is the case, there is an entire network that is being protected. IMO the videos being made were not for the PIMPs enjoyment only but more of an enterprise.  Just thinking out loud. Any thoughts?


I keep wondering what favors were called in to protect the son of the judge. I would like to know things that happened before Paulus ever got to Aruba, his history, the cases he had influence over. I personally think that would open a huge can of worms and explain why all this for a few punks.

Hi Monkeys
I agree Shell,this is no coverup just for the Kalpoe's....it's for Joran and it's for Paulus.If only the Kalpoe's were involved,this would have been solved within the first few days of Natalee disappearing.
No,it's because of Joran,his father is protecting him and we all know he will do anything to protect his son even if it means bringing down the whole once happy island of aruba.Paulus is protected by his knowledge.I also would love to see all of the cases he has worked on in the past.



MONKEY DISCLAIMER!   It is not Paulus' power that is covering this up...it's Anita's power in the right places.
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« Reply #604 on: July 26, 2007, 04:39:11 PM »

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From:
http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NATALEE/2005_05_24_thru_may31.html

Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT brags at school to his friends about having sex with NATALEE. From the DUTCH news source “AD.nl”:

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The next day at school, Joran arrogantly bragged to several of his school buddies who had been at the “Excelsior Casino” (and some who were at “Carlos 'N Charlie's”) and had seen Natalee with him, words to this effect, “Hey, I banged that girl last night.” He was telling the story several times [as he would see guys who had seen him the night before.… guys ask things like... “Did you score with that chick?” MY INSERTION] and he would give them his report.

But, then the schoolmaster called him in and told him to not be talking that way, because it is ‘on the news that she never made it back to the hotel.’ So, Joran (shocked by that news) quit telling of his conquest immediately.

<END QUOTE>

Also, the morning after NH disappeared [May 30, 2005], Joran came with a big bruise on his face and was sleeping in class and could only be woken up when he was pelted with (note?)books.

On 7-15 FOX News GRETA VAN SUSTEREN reported that she had spoken to the mother of a school student male witness about Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT showing up at school the morning of 5-30 with a very noticeable bruise on his facial cheek.

On 7-15 BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY stated that an Aruban woman had called her said she just wanted to make sure that BETH knew that Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT had a bruise on his face the morning of 5-30 at school. On 7-15 TITO LACLE reported to FOX News that a colleague reporter had gone to Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT’s school on 6-9 to ask about Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT. When TITO LACLE’s colleague asked about Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT to a person at the school he was told, “Oh, you mean that boy with the bruise.”


Not sure if any of this is considered "reliable" or "verified" but it what I found in a quick search.


thanks AZ...that's how I remember it....but sure couldn't find it like you did!
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« Reply #605 on: July 26, 2007, 04:39:59 PM »

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I confess that I am not much into the S&S thing. But yesterday there was a re-post with a few sentences in French, and I think there were several others that included French. I remember being interested in that at the time - as a possible clue to identity. However, I simply could not take the time to "study" those posts.

French is not one of the "3 or 4" languages many on Aruba are likely speak - Pap, Dutch, Spanish, and English.

Folks there who came from The Netherlands might have some French - it's not uncommon in Europe (where many do speak at least a smattering of several languages).

Just thought I would throw that out as a possible avenue of research and speculation.


Hi MSMarple! I remember Simian saying something about being a blue blood frenchman. I'll see if I can't find the actual post.


Here ya go, Shadow;

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:18 am
F@#$ the poetry. The Simian is a frenchman. Blue blood if you should know.

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:21 am
The Simian doesn’t make predictions. Only gives the group information ahead of time. Predictions are for fools. This is the Simian.
No me hagan mofa. Estoy molesto por las bobedades de Shango y Shock y Checkme. Se creen, pero no son.
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« Reply #606 on: July 26, 2007, 04:40:17 PM »

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I confess that I am not much into the S&S thing. But yesterday there was a re-post with a few sentences in French, and I think there were several others that included French. I remember being interested in that at the time - as a possible clue to identity. However, I simply could not take the time to "study" those posts.

French is not one of the "3 or 4" languages many on Aruba are likely speak - Pap, Dutch, Spanish, and English.

Folks there who came from The Netherlands might have some French - it's not uncommon in Europe (where many do speak at least a smattering of several languages).

Just thought I would throw that out as a possible avenue of research and speculation.


Good point--I'd like to add that the French portions were in very poor French, too, for what it's worth.

I know on the Caribbean island of St. Martin, both French and Dutch are spoken.
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« Reply #607 on: July 26, 2007, 04:40:49 PM »

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Good eveninng Monkeys!

Good discussions going on tonight.
AZLady: I agree with so much of what you said in your last post. But I still have a burning question . . . were those PIMPS worthy of such a huge cover-up? You mentioned video of the assault and I agree, but I beleive if this is the case, there is an entire network that is being protected. IMO the videos being made were not for the PIMPs enjoyment only but more of an enterprise.  Just thinking out loud. Any thoughts?


I keep wondering what favors were called in to protect the son of the judge. I would like to know things that happened before Paulus ever got to Aruba, his history, the cases he had influence over. I personally think that would open a huge can of worms and explain why all this for a few punks.

Hi Monkeys
I agree Shell,this is no coverup just for the Kalpoe's....it's for Joran and it's for Paulus.If only the Kalpoe's were involved,this would have been solved within the first few days of Natalee disappearing.
No,it's because of Joran,his father is protecting him and we all know he will do anything to protect his son even if it means bringing down the whole once happy island of aruba.Paulus is protected by his knowledge.I also would love to see all of the cases he has worked on in the past.

I also feel it is a well-oiled machine in aruba for covering-up crimes against tourist.  What happened to Natalee also happened to 3 others that I can think of. Bud Larson, Max deVries, and another man. I'm sure the details of each one is different but they all "disappeared" and the families were treated badly/threatened, and they ale just wants to claim they ran off for insurance $$$$.
I think the ata, ahata, whatever all those tourist getter orgs iare n aruba would help out p&jvds or any other privledge aruban.
And the cops there really don't want to get involved or do whatever is the causes least problems .
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« Reply #608 on: July 26, 2007, 04:44:11 PM »

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You really think Shango is MC???? Just curious.


It fits. She walks in all circles. Has knowledge of the Dutch, the Arubans, the local Government and the case. Then she is removed from her position the day after these posts.


FWIW - I do not think this person was Shango.


Klaas who do you think shango was/is?  I have never gotten into  the shango dango tamgo mumbo jumbo.....to me it leaves too much open to interpretation for my brain...but I'd be interested in learning who you think it was/is
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« Reply #609 on: July 26, 2007, 04:44:12 PM »

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I confess that I am not much into the S&S thing. But yesterday there was a re-post with a few sentences in French, and I think there were several others that included French. I remember being interested in that at the time - as a possible clue to identity. However, I simply could not take the time to "study" those posts.

French is not one of the "3 or 4" languages many on Aruba are likely speak - Pap, Dutch, Spanish, and English.

Folks there who came from The Netherlands might have some French - it's not uncommon in Europe (where many do speak at least a smattering of several languages).

Just thought I would throw that out as a possible avenue of research and speculation.


Hi MSMarple! I remember Simian saying something about being a blue blood frenchman. I'll see if I can't find the actual post.


Here ya go, Shadow;

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:18 am
F@#$ the poetry. The Simian is a frenchman. Blue blood if you should know.

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:21 am
The Simian doesn’t make predictions. Only gives the group information ahead of time. Predictions are for fools. This is the Simian.
No me hagan mofa. Estoy molesto por las bobedades de Shango y Shock y Checkme. Se creen, pero no son.


You beat me to it!  Very Happy
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« Reply #610 on: July 26, 2007, 04:45:40 PM »

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I know everyone keeps asking me who I think it is, but I have held off on that one, because I like to see how others come to their conclusions.  Since Gabe Leo claims it is not him, tell me, someone who it is?  I have long had my mind made up, but I refuse to say anymore than that.


Lala's please write yourself up for teasing .....no cussing, spitting ot teasing!! Shocked
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« Reply #611 on: July 26, 2007, 04:46:15 PM »

Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??
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« Reply #612 on: July 26, 2007, 04:47:37 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I don't remember that quote...what exactly did he say?
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« Reply #613 on: July 26, 2007, 04:47:45 PM »

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I also feel it is a well-oiled machine in aruba for covering-up crimes against tourist.  What happened to Natalee also happened to 3 others that I can think of. Bud Larson, Max deVries, and another man. I'm sure the details of each one is different but they all "disappeared" and the families were treated badly/threatened, and they ale just wants to claim they ran off for insurance $$$$.
I think the ata, ahata, whatever all those tourist getter orgs iare n aruba would help out p&jvds or any other privledge aruban.
And the cops there really don't want to get involved or do whatever is the causes least problems .


Oh I agree NM - and it pisses me off so badly.  Given that and the fact they skew their crime statistics....Makes it a place to avoid at all costs.
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« Reply #614 on: July 26, 2007, 04:48:46 PM »

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And who told us it was delivering dog food?


I have no idea Lalas..  LMAO  Just recall hearing it was dogfood?


I remember it to Angie.,,,,don't know who said it...but there was lots of discussin about it being dog food...and I could never understand it...sorry to learn about you and your hubby....both of ya'll need to get well!!
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« Reply #615 on: July 26, 2007, 04:49:07 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I don't remember that quote...what exactly did he say?


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The Simian thinks ydave is way off. The Simian is a relayer. The Simian belongs to an Aruban society much like “Skull & Bones”.
The Simian just wants that everybody knows what is not said in the American Media.
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« Reply #616 on: July 26, 2007, 04:50:11 PM »

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And who told us it was delivering dog food?


I am sorry, I don't have a link.  That is why I used the disclaimer "IIRC" Very Happy  Very Happy I had actually thought of including the phrase "I don't have a link", but thought it might sound snippy Very Happy


It was probably Bondia.


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« Reply #617 on: July 26, 2007, 04:53:37 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I think that may mean one of the tourism groups.  S&B society likes to believe they are making decisions and affecting the country with their influence.  If Simian really understands Skull & Bones, the tourism groups seem to align themselves best with that 'society'.  

The only other thing I could think of would be the Lion's Club.  Lions are mentioned by Shango, but I don't know if Shango is really referring to this club or not.
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« Reply #618 on: July 26, 2007, 04:54:37 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I don't remember that quote...what exactly did he say?


The Simian thinks ydave is way off. The Simian is a relayer. The Simian belongs to an Aruban society much like “Skull & Bones”.
The Simian just wants that everybody knows what is not said in the American Media.
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« Reply #619 on: July 26, 2007, 04:54:40 PM »

San, I see you lurking . . . I wanted to disuss some of your posts from last night. I also beleive there is a Miami connection for the porn. I also believe that was why Paulus made a trip to Miami. Has anyone ever considered John Charles Croes or his father could be the Miami link? Just thinking out loud. He was supposively online messaging with Deepak and he lives in Miami. Wonder if his father is into real estate??
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