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« Reply #620 on: July 26, 2007, 05:00:22 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I think that may mean one of the tourism groups.  S&B society likes to believe they are making decisions and affecting the country with their influence.  If Simian really understands Skull & Bones, the tourism groups seem to align themselves best with that 'society'.  

The only other thing I could think of would be the Lion's Club.  Lions are mentioned by Shango, but I don't know if Shango is really referring to this club or not.


Wasn't there some discussion a while back about masons??
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« Reply #621 on: July 26, 2007, 05:00:36 PM »

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San, I see you lurking . . . I wanted to disuss some of your posts from last night. I also beleive there is a Miami connection for the porn. I also believe that was why Paulus made a trip to Miami. Has anyone ever considered John Charles Croes or his father could be the Miami link? Just thinking out loud. He was supposively online messaging with Deepak and he lives in Miami. Wonder if his father is into real estate??


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:43 pm
Did the babylonians like to make movies?
From the tears, a new river will spring forth….


I have often thought the second line of this post was meant to provide some clue to a video that existed at one time.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
The shivas knew the girl
the arawaks new the girl
and the babylonians still know the girl


Could the babylonians "still know the girl" through a video?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:32 pm
His lordship is there to preserve babylon
not the elder
remember dirtyhand!


A hint at "why the cover up"?  Is "His Lordship" the govenor general, the only person in Aruba appointed by the Queen?
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« Reply #622 on: July 26, 2007, 05:03:03 PM »

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San, I see you lurking . . . I wanted to disuss some of your posts from last night. I also beleive there is a Miami connection for the porn. I also believe that was why Paulus made a trip to Miami. Has anyone ever considered John Charles Croes or his father could be the Miami link? Just thinking out loud. He was supposively online messaging with Deepak and he lives in Miami. Wonder if his father is into real estate??


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:43 pm
Did the babylonians like to make movies?
From the tears, a new river will spring forth….


I have often thought the second line of this post was meant to provide some clue to a video that existed at one time.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
The shivas knew the girl
the arawaks new the girl
and the babylonians still know the girl


Could the babylonians "still know the girl" through a video?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:32 pm
His lordship is there to preserve babylon
not the elder
remember dirtyhand!


A hint at "why the cover up"?  Is "His Lordship" the govenor general, the only person in Aruba appointed by the Queen?


I have often wondered what he meant by Lordship . . . who was he referring to?
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« Reply #623 on: July 26, 2007, 05:03:04 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I don't remember that quote...what exactly did he say?


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The Simian thinks ydave is way off. The Simian is a relayer. The Simian belongs to an Aruban society much like “Skull & Bones”.
The Simian just wants that everybody knows what is not said in the American Media.


for those like me who many not know the background of the Skull & Bones society....


The Order of Skull and Bones, once known as The Brotherhood of Death,[1] is a secret society based at Yale University, in New Haven, Connecticut, and is one of the oldest student secret societies in the United States. Skull and Bones has maintained its selective membership and Masonic-inspired rituals since its founding in 1832. The society's alumni organization, which owns its properties and oversees undergraduate activity, is the Russell Trust Association, named after one of Bones' founding members and is featured in the movie The Good Shepherd.
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« Reply #624 on: July 26, 2007, 05:03:14 PM »

Whew!  I signed on to take a mind meld break and got only further melded...

Hey Monkeys....
 
I remember the dog food comments b/c I remember thinking at the time, dang who in the hell has dog food delivered by a furniture truck?  And now that time has passed, I have to wonder if the bloody matress didn't come from the house and it was Natalee's blood.  The furniture truck really brought them a new matress and now that we see how disposal works on the island, isn't it possible that they took the "old" matress away and just dumped it?

ANG.. you and hubby are in my prayers... be well soon!
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« Reply #625 on: July 26, 2007, 05:04:16 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I don't remember that quote...what exactly did he say?


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9. Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian thinks ydave is way off. The Simian is a relayer. The Simian belongs to an Aruban society much like “Skull & Bones”.
The Simian just wants that everybody knows what is not said in the American Media.


for those like me who many not know the background of the Skull & Bones society....


The Order of Skull and Bones, once known as The Brotherhood of Death,[1] is a secret society based at Yale University, in New Haven, Connecticut, and is one of the oldest student secret societies in the United States. Skull and Bones has maintained its selective membership and Masonic-inspired rituals since its founding in 1832. The society's alumni organization, which owns its properties and oversees undergraduate activity, is the Russell Trust Association, named after one of Bones' founding members and is featured in the movie The Good Shepherd.


Thanks for posting that info!
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« Reply #626 on: July 26, 2007, 05:04:52 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I think that may mean one of the tourism groups.  S&B society likes to believe they are making decisions and affecting the country with their influence.  If Simian really understands Skull & Bones, the tourism groups seem to align themselves best with that 'society'.  

The only other thing I could think of would be the Lion's Club.  Lions are mentioned by Shango, but I don't know if Shango is really referring to this club or not.


Wasn't there some discussion a while back about masons??


Yes, there was, but I missed a lot of that.

Skull & Bones is not actually the masons (shriners), but a 'society' of Ivy Leaguers who practice the art of "running the  world" sotospeak.

Here's a pretty good link for info on S&B:

http://tinyurl.com/zoc2u

I gotta head home now.  I hope to be back for some more Tango later.
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« Reply #627 on: July 26, 2007, 05:05:34 PM »

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Whew!  I signed on to take a mind meld break and got only further melded...

Hey Monkeys....
 
I remember the dog food comments b/c I remember thinking at the time, dang who in the hell has dog food delivered by a furniture truck?  And now that time has passed, I have to wonder if the bloody matress didn't come from the house and it was Natalee's blood.  The furniture truck really brought them a new matress and now that we see how disposal works on the island, isn't it possible that they took the "old" matress away and just dumped it?

ANG.. you and hubby are in my prayers... be well soon!


hi Mrs. Red......you and I think alike on this subject!! I think it is not only possible but probable...JMO
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« Reply #628 on: July 26, 2007, 05:05:36 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I think that may mean one of the tourism groups.  S&B society likes to believe they are making decisions and affecting the country with their influence.  If Simian really understands Skull & Bones, the tourism groups seem to align themselves best with that 'society'.  

The only other thing I could think of would be the Lion's Club.  Lions are mentioned by Shango, but I don't know if Shango is really referring to this club or not.


Wasn't there some discussion a while back about masons??


Yes, there was, but I missed a lot of that.

Skull & Bones is not actually the masons (shriners), but a 'society' of Ivy Leaguers who practice the art of "running the  world" sotospeak.

Here's a pretty good link for info on S&B:

http://tinyurl.com/zoc2u

I gotta head home now.  I hope to be back for some more Tango later.


Later Truth!
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« Reply #629 on: July 26, 2007, 05:06:16 PM »

Gotta run . . . BBL!
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« Reply #630 on: July 26, 2007, 05:11:20 PM »

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Gotta run . . . BBL!


See ya....shadow and truthseeker
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« Reply #631 on: July 26, 2007, 05:11:22 PM »

Sunny... I saw beachwego lurking earlier...have you talked to her?


there was so much misinformation from the get go that I am not sure how we have managed to collectively recall all that we do!
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« Reply #632 on: July 26, 2007, 05:12:31 PM »

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Sunny... I saw beachwego lurking earlier...have you talked to her?


there was so much misinformation from the get go that I am not sure how we have managed to collectively recall all that we do!


Hi Mrs. Red...no I saw her though....hopefully she'll come back......we miss her.....

that's the problem...the misinformation..... Shocked
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« Reply #633 on: July 26, 2007, 05:13:34 PM »

Mrs. Red..you and I must need to change our deodorant or sumptin....we seems to clear the board or be invisible!!  LOL...check your email
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« Reply #634 on: July 26, 2007, 05:13:44 PM »

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding the comment made by Simian that he was in a "skull & bones society" in Aruba??


I don't remember that quote...what exactly did he say?


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9. Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian thinks ydave is way off. The Simian is a relayer. The Simian belongs to an Aruban society much like “Skull & Bones”.
The Simian just wants that everybody knows what is not said in the American Media.


Hmmm...I'd say it was to suggest that he's an insider. Going back to read what everyone else said...
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« Reply #635 on: July 26, 2007, 05:14:03 PM »

dern.. duty calls. Twisted Evil

work is overrated... but I still gotta do it..

I will BBL... keep the faith y'all
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« Reply #636 on: July 26, 2007, 05:14:07 PM »

Shocked  got hubby all fixed up..  <yuck>

Lalas.. or anyone? Here is another I found in the old thread.. I am now looking for a post about renho i saw.. driving me nuts,, cant find it  Mad


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"the dice throwers rolled"
"mary rolled"

"the gamblers also took note"

the gamblers=the dice throwers=some of the the students?

The gamblers are not the Arubans, the Dutch, the bad guys the ruling class so or the children thereof so who are they?

Some people who were in the casino know where NH was brought? Call me nuts but I think there is something to this Shango business. If I were there, and the only thing I had to go on was 3 boys who are not talking I'd be looking for the stinky cave or house with the music on the dirt road.
 
 
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« Reply #637 on: July 26, 2007, 05:20:00 PM »

Fredis Refunjol is the current governor of Aruba; he was appointed by Queen Beatrix in '04. He's the head of Aruban government.
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« Reply #638 on: July 26, 2007, 05:25:37 PM »

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San, I see you lurking . . . I wanted to disuss some of your posts from last night. I also beleive there is a Miami connection for the porn. I also believe that was why Paulus made a trip to Miami. Has anyone ever considered John Charles Croes or his father could be the Miami link? Just thinking out loud. He was supposively online messaging with Deepak and he lives in Miami. Wonder if his father is into real estate??


I'm here now shadow I stepped away for a few minutes.  There seems to be some sory of connection in Florida.  You are right John Charles Croes could be the link.  We don't know exactly what Deepak told him because I believe those records are missing information.  I also believe the link could be through Ernesto who is Freddy's older brother.  This guy has high end customers and might some of his customers want a certain video.  Did Paulus fly to Florida to squash or seek help regarding these videos.  I remember Ernesto making a comment saying you had to have connections to make it in his business and he had the connections.  We have not heard a peep from Ernesto since all this happened.
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« Reply #639 on: July 26, 2007, 05:30:23 PM »

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I'm here now shadow I stepped away for a few minutes.  There seems to be some sory of connection in Florida.  You are right John Charles Croes could be the link.  We don't know exactly what Deepak told him because I believe those records are missing information.  I also believe the link could be through Ernesto who is Freddy's older brother.  This guy has high end customers and might some of his customers want a certain video.  Did Paulus fly to Florida to squash or seek help regarding these videos.  I remember Ernesto making a comment saying you had to have connections to make it in his business and he had the connections.  We have not heard a peep from Ernesto since all this happened.


Wasn't John Charles Croes the person Deepak was IMing when he got home from doing whatever that fateful night?

If he did IM and the subject matter was a porn video of Natalee, that could suggest that Deepak didn't know everything and was sent home or left before the whole story played out. (I think that because, clearly, why would he contact a porn-connected friend if he'd just made a sex tape of a girl who later died?) Just speculating here...
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