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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #665 7/25 - 7/26/2007  (Read 138109 times)
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« on: July 25, 2007, 12:55:34 PM »

Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 03:50:37 PM »

Here!!!!  Am I first?  Where's robots? Laughing
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 03:51:48 PM »

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Here!!!!  Am I first?  Where's robots? Laughing

He's been slacking lately Laughing  Must need a WD-40 treatment  Laughing
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 03:53:44 PM »

Anna- I saw your post in the last thread... and I just don't know what their intentions are.

Hard to imagine that they could ever prosecute this case on Aruba.

And how could they transport everyone to Holland? ... I'm not sure what to think.

Someone would prolly burn down the Court house on Aruba. They sure have a fire bug running around lately.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2007, 03:54:26 PM »

did the KLPD bring in trained professionals, a.k.a. - THE CLEANUP CREW, to vacuum up any remaining evidence....

makes ya think, doesn't it ?
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2007, 03:55:11 PM »

I just got the door slammed on my foot... Laughing

anyway I was adding speculation ...

what if dompig is helping to destroy evidence because he is also one to have comprimising dealings with tourist women?  His son was a bartender ... what better way to scope and "get" the women you want?

Back to the newspaper article talking about the "elders" ... maybe this entire cover up is to protect all the older men involved....

just a speculation.....
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2007, 03:59:01 PM »

If you are interested, Grande and I did a post today on a person that seems to have no regard for his wife disappearance today.

Grande had a very extensive conversation with Robert Arnette at Court TV message board. Robert Arnette is the last person seen with Naomi Arnette.

http://tinyurl.com/3bd44n

There will be more on my site from Grande in the next day or so as a family member of missing Naomi Arnette has reached out to Grande on this case.

This person has requested to speak directly to Grande.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 03:59:51 PM »

Mrs. Red - check your email when you get a chance ok?  TIA
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2007, 04:00:35 PM »

Mrs. Red--I liked what you said in the last thread about Dirty Hand being a woman. I had never considered it either, until I randomly thought it could be Karin Janssen today.

Dirty Hand seems to me to be characterized as being in the middle, knowing how the Babylonians (good old boys) work, without really being one of them. It's an interesting take on it, if nothing else. I'm reading about Dirty Hand right now with the consideration that it may be a woman.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2007, 04:01:18 PM »

But now that KJ is not in charge, I wonder what will be the excuse for not prosecuting.

Paulus is a suspect.  J2K + SGC = 5th suspect.  Lorenzo is a witness, not a suspect.  What is Paulus alibi for that night?  That he was home sleeping soundly?  He lost the case against the governement for saying he was out and about at 4 a.m.

Did the prosecutor get steamed seeing the video of Paulus hitting on Natalee in the casino and bring those charges of premeditated murder against him? What is his alibi?  What is his timeline?  Why were the younger Sloots never questioned?  Would Val maybe say Paulus was not home that night?
Too much pure speculation but I would think breaking the alibi of Paulus if that alibi just happened to be the prosecutor would certainly bring down far more houses of cards than the alibi of a drug dealer.  Would just about levle the judiciary in Aruba.  Would shock the world, even.  

Gotta work but am thinking about all this. . . . . mind boggling possibilities should this rumor be true.


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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2007, 04:01:37 PM »

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If you are interested, Grande and I did a post today on a person that seems to have no regard for his wife disappearance today.

Grande had a very extensive conversation with Robert Arnette at Court TV message board. Robert Arnette is the last person seen with Naomi Arnette.

http://tinyurl.com/3bd44n

There will be more on my site from Grande in the next day or so as a family member of missing Naomi Arnette has reached out to Grande on this case.

This person has requested to speak directly to Grande.


by the way - that link is to Court TV .. where the conversation took place... very interesting stuff. It's all there.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2007, 04:11:55 PM »

Thank you Blue... to me, it's worth thinking about.

Klaasend.. answered, but not very well...

and I am out for a while, take care be good...

keep the faith...
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2007, 04:14:49 PM »

snoopy wrote: Katysmom I'm south of St. Louis. Where are you from abouts?

katysmom wrote:  I'm down by Branson

snoopy wrote: That's right. I remember now. Near Lake Taneycomo right?


Snoopy:  Wow, you've got a great memory.  I'm right on Lake Taneycomo; about 9 miles from Branson
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2007, 04:18:41 PM »

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snoopy wrote: Katysmom I'm south of St. Louis. Where are you from abouts?

katysmom wrote:  I'm down by Branson

snoopy wrote: That's right. I remember now. Near Lake Taneycomo right?


Snoopy:  Wow, you've got a great memory.  I'm right on Lake Taneycomo; about 9 miles from Branson


I have moments!!  Laughing  Laughing
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2007, 04:20:46 PM »

Clyde Burke

Klaas, who is Clyde Burke?  What does he do, what is his connection to
this investigation?

TIA.
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2007, 04:21:56 PM »

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Clyde Burke

Klaas, who is Clyde Burke?  What does he do, what is his connection to
this investigation?

TIA.


Clyde Burke is ALE and was involved in taking many of the witness/suspect statements.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2007, 04:28:05 PM »

Clyde Burke = ALE?

klaas writes:  Clyde Burke is ALE and was involved in taking many of the witness/suspect statements.

How are you klaas?  Thanks for your quick reply.

What makes you think Clude Burke is Simian?

I know you have researched much, would be interested to hear your perspective on this.

TIA

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2007, 04:29:21 PM »

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Clyde Burke

Klaas, who is Clyde Burke?  What does he do, what is his connection to
this investigation?

TIA.


Clyde Burke is ALE and was involved in taking many of the witness/suspect statements.


I've highlighted the ALE members who witnessed the statements:

Sander Gottenbos   brother of Koen Gottenbos      6/17/2005   11:15   Clyde Burke / Shaniro Kelly
Margaritha Werlemen Dijkhoff   v/d Sloot live in maid      6/20/2005   20:35   Clyde Burke / Shaniro Kelly
Amanda Metz   v/d Sloot girlfriend      6/20/2005   15:50   Clyde Burke / Shaniro Kelly
Gilayla Flanegin   Friend of v/d Sloot      6/20/2005   19:00   Clyde Burke / Shaniro Kelly

Antonius Mickey John   interrogation of a suspect - request 41   Holiday Inn   6/5/2006   10:30   Clyde Burke       
Abraham Jones   interrogation of a suspect - request 41   Holiday Inn   6/6/2005   15:45   Clyde Burke       
Francisco Remigio Thiel   fishermen      6/5/2005   13:55   Clyde Burke / Johny Erasmus       
Niharika Triveedi   Friend of V/D sloot      7/2/2005   10:10   Marlon Gumbs / Clyde Burke       
George Twitty         7/5/2005   17:00   Marlon Gumbs / Clyde Burke       

Paul van der Sloot         6/18/2005   18:30   Roland Tromp / Clyde Burke       

Sander Gottenbos   brother of Koen Gottenbos      6/16/2005   17:10   Shaniro Kelly / Clyde Burke       
Steve Croes         6/21/2005   13:00   Shaniro Kelly / Clyde Burke
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2007, 04:31:05 PM »

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Clyde Burke = ALE?

klaas writes:  Clyde Burke is ALE and was involved in taking many of the witness/suspect statements.

How are you klaas?  Thanks for your quick reply.

What makes you think Clude Burke is Simian?

I know you have researched much, would be interested to hear your perspective on this.

TIA

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I did some research into Clyde Burke.  Found he is interrested in music and also participated in a band.  There are other reasons why I believe Clyde to be Simian that I can't post.  

It's clear that Simian was getting inside ALE information and giving it to us either right before or when it was happening.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2007, 04:31:51 PM »

I believe Grande is correct and found that Burke seemingly posted a message only thirty minutes after a statement was taken and only someone with inside knowledge could have known that info that fast.
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