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shadow
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July 27, 2007, 10:16:03 PM »
Goodnight Monkeys! Look forward to seeing everyone in the new cage tomorrow.
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shango also references teepee's which are American indian
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Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Pssssttttt.....I heard a rumor that our Angie LOVES Charlierat.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh its a secret.. but guess its out now..
I must say, they do make a lovely couple.
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July 27, 2007, 10:17:55 PM »
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?
Could it be a reference to arubian members of ALE .
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Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone
I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.
I think you are right and
Tribe
means arubian populace. Not sure why sometimes he capitalizes
Arawaks
and other times not. He also uses" indian" to refer to arubians too i think. I think some of these analogies were likely thought of before the actual Shango posts. Thsi is just an impression i get .
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun
I do believe Shango is showing his American roots here. Pemmican and wampum are American Indian terms, aren't they? I doubt they are used in the Caribbean folklore. This post looks to me like Shango is trying
way too hard
to emphasize the "cowboy" and "Indian" allusions--he's practically shoving it down our throats with the pemmican and wampum references. Kind of like, he's saying I'm using the cowboy and Indian references to show you these are enemies, so do you get it? Yes
, we get it, Shango.
Then, he is saying JVDS and the Kalpoes are still jailed and talking, and these three are enough to put in jail.
Really, Shango? I have my doubts, but I see what you mean.
I'm not sure what the last three lines mean.
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun
Someone intervened to stop the investigation thus limiting it to the trio singing.
We will not know the answer and will keep picking at what we know to try to solve it.
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BTgirl
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July 27, 2007, 10:18:15 PM »
Quote from: "shadow"
Goodnight Monkeys! Look forward to seeing everyone in the new cage tomorrow.
Night Shadow. See you at the new house.
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Easywriter
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July 27, 2007, 10:18:25 PM »
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Well monkeys, I'm not sure if today was a good day or not.
We decided to go to Hyde and Beach Streets and catch the cable car, as we didn't think it was possible to visit San Francisco without riding a cable car. Anyway, as luck would have it, there had been a problem with the cable cars that morning, and they didn't run for a while. That meant zillions of people were lined up at all the cable car stops waiting to get on.
Anyhoo, we rode to the end of the line and they said we had to get off the cable car and get in line to get back on and ride back to the hotel. There were long lines waiting, so Donna and I climbed a ginormous hill trying to walk back. We got to the top, and stopped to rest next to a cable car stop. A car came along that was fully loaded, but the driver stopped and said he'd squeeze us on. When we got on, he made people scrunch up and make room for me to sit, but Donna had to stand.
My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?
Maybe he just thought you were scrunchable!
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Quote from: "shadow"
Goodnight Monkeys! Look forward to seeing everyone in the new cage tomorrow.
Nite Shadow
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oldfart
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July 27, 2007, 10:18:58 PM »
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
This sounds like Joran and the 2 Kalpoes IMO Was this when they were each separately taking ALE to the fishermans huts? Can't remember.......
I thought it was
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Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed
singing beetles
with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone
As in bugs / mics.. and note "the Babylonian" Singular and "Two Shivas"
Plura..
Not sure how that would work / not work in shange code for Babylonian / Shiva...
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over !!! If you believe good prevails and that the truth comes forward then justice will be handed out.
I want answers!
BTgirl
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Quote from: "BTgirl"
Well monkeys, I'm not sure if today was a good day or not.
We decided to go to Hyde and Beach Streets and catch the cable car, as we didn't think it was possible to visit San Francisco without riding a cable car. Anyway, as luck would have it, there had been a problem with the cable cars that morning, and they didn't run for a while. That meant zillions of people were lined up at all the cable car stops waiting to get on.
Anyhoo, we rode to the end of the line and they said we had to get off the cable car and get in line to get back on and ride back to the hotel. There were long lines waiting, so Donna and I climbed a ginormous hill trying to walk back. We got to the top, and stopped to rest next to a cable car stop. A car came along that was fully loaded, but the driver stopped and said he'd squeeze us on. When we got on, he made people scrunch up and make room for me to sit, but Donna had to stand.
My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?
Maybe he just thought you were scrunchable!
Ooooh!! That sounds kinda kinky.
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From reading the junk in the book The World According to Joran or whatever it's called, and from any other sources - how far back in time can we account for his drug use, like to about what age?
My answer
ROFL... Eweeeeeeeeeeeee Rolling Rock sucks.. Smells like skunk piss.
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Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XO5Xd7_MXn4
thunderstruck...
Now you got me rockin out
I think that and Back in Black are my fav's
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Nitey Nite Monks!
See you in the new building.
Mr Sandman.......bring me a dream.......
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Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango. Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign. Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community. Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product. I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case. I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.
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Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Nitey Nite Monks!
See you in the new building.
Mr Sandman.......bring me a dream.......
Nite SunFreak.
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Quote from: "*******"
Heres a cheat sheet for all that want to tango
Or at least pretend like you know what goin on
*Mary=Natalee
*The Lamb=Joran
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba
*Arawaks=native Arubans
*Arawak King=Prime Minister
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ërollingí
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld
http://www.mcharvey.com/shango/shango.html
Just so you know..there are some of the old code talkers that do not agree with the scenario laid out above. Not that I am one of them, because I was never a code talker...too afraid I would look dumb if I spoke up.
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Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XO5Xd7_MXn4
thunderstruck...
I posted that in out music thread before.. which I hope we get to keep
One of my fav AC/DS songs!
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Quote from: "AZLady"
Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango. Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign. Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community. Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product. I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case. I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.
You may be right about Shango. I do believe Simian was sharing actual information with us.
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Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?
That is one skeeery kitty!!!!
I think the kitty is there to comfort them, he isn't bad...
sorry for all the O/T.. but I tangoed a minute ago and no one answered...
If we're on the final countdown to the end of the old forum (and thread #666
), I think everything should be considered On Topic.
I must say PARTY DOWN tonight and toast the familiar farewell…..
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Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?
That is one skeeery kitty!!!!
Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!
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Nite Shawdow and Sun ... have a great nite!
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