Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007

[Lala'sMom]

From an old FP comment:

basically what Sim, Shang, Aenim and a few others have hinted at all along
is that other parties are involved. Which many of us agree with already.
A few posters agree that Sim and these other posters describe many local detials to the tee. And yes it is quite possible they are observing things from a distance.
If it is true they are close to local LE and are sharing vague detials or possibilites with us. Don’t get upset with them if they don’t crack the case, they are simply sharing thier
views of the possibilites. And I happen to agree with thier suggestions.

Local LE was involved very early on and now they are screwed…
It seems many are in fear over there, of what?
I know what I’d fear in Los Angeles if I witnessed a crime commited by a cop.
I’d fear other cops and more so thier puppetmasters.
There’s alot more dirt to be uncovered… hopefully it occurs and Aruba will
get cleaned up. The locals would love to get rid of some bad elements there.

read this it explains much of thier message:

# Babalú Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am

Concerned

No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.

and yes the FBI does read these threads, so keep posting up Sim, Shang, Aenim etc
you have little to fear from them. It’s your neighbors you need to keep an eye on.

Comment by ztriggz | June 27, 2005, 1:34 pm

[klaasend]

Good Night Monkeys

Janet

9:30 PM

Nite Janet

[Leslie]

Paul - June 23, 2005.

To your question whether Joran went to school on Monday
May 30th 2005, I can state the following. I cannot precisely recollect
whether Joran went to school that day. It is possible that he did not
go to school that day. To your question whether Sebastian and Valentijn went to school
that Monday, I can state the following. Yes, they got onto the bus
and went to school because in the period that Anita was away they
took the bus every day.
To your question whether I wait to see if they get on the bus,
I can state following. Yes, I stay and watch.
To your question how it then is possible that I had not seen Joran
get onto the bus, I can state the following. Of course I see the children
get onto the bus and that also is true for Joran. But unlike Valentijn and
Sebastian who went with the bus everyday Joran didn't go with the bus
once or twice during that period. But I do not remember exactly which
days he did not go with the bus. It could be that it was that Monday.
Most likely I informed the bus driver that Joran would not be going with
the bus. A clue to the fact that Joran did not go to school that Monday
could be that on Tuesday I insisted that he went to school that day.
 

[Lala'sMom]

thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?

You like Shango and Simian don't you?  I see you asking all kinds of questions.  Just keep asking if no one answers you.  

Have you read the Merian Earnest posts also?  They are the "yellowhammer" references.

[San]

One thing is certain:  if Joran was not in school on Monday, several people want us to believe he was there.  Wonder why?

Exactly AZLady.

[Lala'sMom]

It is obvious that Joran most likely was not in school because if they could prove he was then it would be a fact in writing.  Having Joran in school and acting normal would have been the icing on the cake to justify saying he did nothing to Natalee.  Instead, we have many people trying to confuse once again.  This is the reason I asked this morning about the story that Joran said she was dead when he came to school.  I think that was more  hearsay and it was repeated until it became accepted fact.  I can't figure out why a teacher would lie and say he was there when there would be an entire class to contradict that statement.  Then again maybe he was covering for Joran because of Anita being a teacher there.  I can't quite figure that one out.

[BUCKSHOT]

thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?

You like Shango and Simian don't you?  I see you asking all kinds of questions.  Just keep asking if no one answers you.  

Have you read the Merian Earnest posts also?  They are the "yellowhammer" references.

i have read here as a non-member for well over a year and read them in the past. they are very fascinating. re-reading sometimes makes different things pop out.

simian seemed to be sending heavy innuendos. what 'shook his wire' in the end? an impersonator?

[BUCKSHOT]

where exactly is moke - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml

[Shell]

One thing is certain:  if Joran was not in school on Monday, several people want us to believe he was there.  Wonder why?

He remembers J helping with moving something, and remembers J was sick...why ask a sick kid to help move things

[klaasend]

It is obvious that Joran most likely was not in school because if they could prove he was then it would be a fact in writing.  Having Joran in school and acting normal would have been the icing on the cake to justify saying he did nothing to Natalee.  Instead, we have many people trying to confuse once again.  This is the reason I asked this morning about the story that Joran said she was dead when he came to school.  I think that was more  hearsay and it was repeated until it became accepted fact.  I can't figure out why a teacher would lie and say he was there when there would be an entire class to contradict that statement.  Then again maybe he was covering for Joran because of Anita being a teacher there.  I can't quite figure that one out.

I think it's possible that Joran got to school on Monday, but very late.

[Lala'sMom]

Front page comment:

is the half brother in this at all? or all joran?

Comment by pktbk | June 27, 2005, 1:51 pm

Lorenzo comes up again.  

[Rob]

Rob,

Wow, nice video!

sleddogs- thank you for the compliment. It means alot to me.

[Lala'sMom]

thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?

You like Shango and Simian don't you?  I see you asking all kinds of questions.  Just keep asking if no one answers you.  

Have you read the Merian Earnest posts also?  They are the "yellowhammer" references.

i have read here as a non-member for well over a year and read them in the past. they are very fascinating. re-reading sometimes makes different things pop out.

simian seemed to be sending heavy innuendos. what 'shook his wire' in the end? an impersonator?

He was discovered.

[BUCKSHOT]

where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml

[Leslie]

Moko - near Noord - where the illegal dump is.

[robots]

anita

[klaasend]

where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml

I believe the Moko they are referring to is a pond area behind the Sloot residence.  You wouldn't find it on the maps.

[BUCKSHOT]

what do you feel, specifically, is meant by 'the rotten package from the Hague?'

if Kalpoe's were in on the drugging of the drink(lets assume they helped) and witness Nat's expiration / demise - but sent home (not to help with disposal, maybe just alibis) , WHAT KEEPS THEM SO BINDED TO THIS GAME. do you think Paulus gave them a good talking to, convincing them there role would make them equally guilty. OR ARE THEY REALLY EQUALLY GUILTY WITH THE RAPE AND MURDER?

just wondering...

[BUCKSHOT]

where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml

I believe the Moko they are referring to is a pond area behind the Sloot residence.  You wouldn't find it on the maps.

gotcha - thx

[Lala'sMom]

FP comment:
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what boyfriend.. I keep hearing she was with another guy the first three nights.. Where did you get this from. I have not read it in any of the news postings

Comment by edie | June 27, 2005, 9:40 pm
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seems like the three boys would be pressed for time ie picking her up at the club at 130 then joran leaving her on the beach around 240 ie hiding the body seems it might be more feasible they left her at a party and went home

Comment by chris | June 27, 2005, 9:40 pm
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Edie…supposedly that is Lorenzo the guy in the blue van from what I recall of all the postings.

Comment by Hopefloats | June 27, 2005, 9:40 pm