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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #669 7/30 - 7/31/2007  (Read 233097 times)
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« Reply #400 on: July 30, 2007, 08:10:17 PM »

All those Florida connections are are a real can of worms!  I can't keep them all straight. 

Off for dinner and hope when I return you have this all sorted out!

 Very Happy

talk to ya soon!!!
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« Reply #401 on: July 30, 2007, 08:10:18 PM »

NORTHROP, Taylor  – worked with Strategic Communications Task Force and informed Dave of Oduber’s attempt to have vd Straaten removed from case
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« Reply #402 on: July 30, 2007, 08:11:30 PM »

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I read Joran's book translation over the weekend and wondered if Guido was Marco? Yes

Also read the online Diario captures about LvR bust.  I noticed "Discoteca priva tambe" in the artiicle.  Special disco what?  Room, equipment, floor?  Anyone understand Papi better?

"private (or exclusive) disco also" Yes the ol toad reads Papi halfast also.

Monkeys and Toads workign together.  What is the world coming to!   Very Happy

Welcome GrannyToad.  It's great to see ya here.
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« Reply #403 on: July 30, 2007, 08:11:55 PM »


Rob, if you'll recall Beth made a speech at ASU and in that speech she said, "There was a cover-up by the government of Aruba. It has been documented." I hope you are right and this is it. Would put them smack dab in the middle and makes the June 10th confession all the more real.



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Monday, January 29, 2007

TWITTY TALKS SAFETY
By Michael Wilkey

JONESBORO -- The mother of a missing 18-year old girl said Sunday afternoon that the disappearance has helped motivate her to talk about issues involving safety and visiting foreign countries.

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Twitty recalled the first days after her daughter's disappearance and the actions of the Aruban government.

"We did everything we could in looking for her. There was a government coverup, and it has been documented," Twitty contended. "Yet we have remained respectful and have done the right thing."

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« Reply #404 on: July 30, 2007, 08:12:47 PM »

GrannyToad... long time no talk to....glad to see you ovah here. Very Happy

I saw you nevah gave up the battle with the darkside...so much valor!!!

You luvre a good scrap!!!
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« Reply #405 on: July 30, 2007, 08:16:21 PM »

Where's Lala's? how does this all tie into Simian and Shango?

I get some kinda feeling this all happened and this is when the FBI got their heads up...

Their office is in Miami.

Like dots on a dish.

Is this when the FBI could have made wire taps?
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« Reply #406 on: July 30, 2007, 08:19:55 PM »

Shango on June 27th, 2005 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.

They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze

Mary who was not a virgin entered

The DiceMen ROLLED

Mary ROLLED


So...if we follow the music where does is lead?  A private disco?  I used to think Shango was hinting at the Allegro when he said to follow the music since allegro is a musical term for lively.  That hotel was 'closed for rennovation' but the casino was still open, hence the reference to DiceMen.  The two security guards had just completed their time at the Allegro which made me think that is why Deepak described the incorrect clothing of the security guards at the Holiday Inn and was describing the clothing of the security guards at the casino of the Allegro.  I don't think Deepak made a 'mistake' in that description.

Could LVR have hosted a private affair at the Allegro...or am I reaching too far???


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« Reply #407 on: July 30, 2007, 08:20:25 PM »

wow!

I dont know what just happened but I somehow got logged off and had a hell of a time getting logged back in

I thought i was banned or something
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« Reply #408 on: July 30, 2007, 08:24:54 PM »

Where's Lala's? how does this all tie into Simian and Shango?

I get some kinda feeling this all happened and this is when the FBI got their heads up...

Their office is in Miami.

Like dots on a dish.

Is this when the FBI could have made wire taps?


By that stage every move he made was being monitored so if he was in Florida to deal with something illegal I am sure they have it on him. What we don't know is whether he was being monitored before Natalee went missing. That would be an interesting bit of knowledge.
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« Reply #409 on: July 30, 2007, 08:28:39 PM »

Shango on June 27th, 2005 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.

They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze

Mary who was not a virgin entered

The DiceMen ROLLED

Mary ROLLED


So...if we follow the music where does is lead?  A private disco?  I used to think Shango was hinting at the Allegro when he said to follow the music since allegro is a musical term for lively.  That hotel was 'closed for rennovation' but the casino was still open, hence the reference to DiceMen.  The two security guards had just completed their time at the Allegro which made me think that is why Deepak described the incorrect clothing of the security guards at the Holiday Inn and was describing the clothing of the security guards at the casino of the Allegro.  I don't think Deepak made a 'mistake' in that description.

Could LVR have hosted a private affair at the Allegro...or am I reaching too far???




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HI,

The Wife and I went fishing, the first week
in January 2007. Went with Captain Monty,
on the "Pair of Dice" boat.

We left at 6 am for four hours of fishing.
I caught two Wahoo and Holly caught two wahoo and one baracuda. The first mate filleted out one of the fish, and we had "The Captain's" resturant at LaCabana cook up the fish for us.
Fish tasted great, baked and fried.
Cost of the fishing trip was $250.00 for 1/2 a day. Was a great fishing trip. Seas were rough, we fished on the north side of the island off of California light house. May want to take motion sickness pills if needed.
I take the pills just as a precaution.
Saw many Dolphins/porpoises.
Captain Monty, keeps his boat at the marina just past the Holiday inn (high rise).
Usually can reach him at 10:30 to 11:00 am or 3:00 to 3:30 pm.

Good luck,

Rich

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« Reply #410 on: July 30, 2007, 08:34:29 PM »

Where's Lala's? how does this all tie into Simian and Shango?

I get some kinda feeling this all happened and this is when the FBI got their heads up...

Their office is in Miami.

Like dots on a dish.

Is this when the FBI could have made wire taps?


By that stage every move he made was being monitored so if he was in Florida to deal with something illegal I am sure they have it on him. What we don't know is whether he was being monitored before Natalee went missing. That would be an interesting bit of knowledge.

Dayhiker-

I think this is the only reason the case is still open. They are afraid of what the FBI has.

I believe after Tim searches and if he is unsuccessful (God I hope not) then the might try the FBI. The Arubans have some issues on the FBI with their counter surveillance into SA... but they might try it. No one has ever accused the Arubans of being SA smartest criminal element.

The Arubans might force their hands.... hard to know, but it would be suicide in my opinion. Bachus opened that door.
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« Reply #411 on: July 30, 2007, 08:37:56 PM »

Shango on June 27th, 2005 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.

They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze

Mary who was not a virgin entered

The DiceMen ROLLED

Mary ROLLED


So...if we follow the music where does is lead?  A private disco?  I used to think Shango was hinting at the Allegro when he said to follow the music since allegro is a musical term for lively.  That hotel was 'closed for rennovation' but the casino was still open, hence the reference to DiceMen.  The two security guards had just completed their time at the Allegro which made me think that is why Deepak described the incorrect clothing of the security guards at the Holiday Inn and was describing the clothing of the security guards at the casino of the Allegro.  I don't think Deepak made a 'mistake' in that description.

Could LVR have hosted a private affair at the Allegro...or am I reaching too far???




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HI,

The Wife and I went fishing, the first week
in January 2007. Went with Captain Monty,
on the "Pair of Dice" boat.

We left at 6 am for four hours of fishing.
I caught two Wahoo and Holly caught two wahoo and one baracuda. The first mate filleted out one of the fish, and we had "The Captain's" resturant at LaCabana cook up the fish for us.
Fish tasted great, baked and fried.
Cost of the fishing trip was $250.00 for 1/2 a day. Was a great fishing trip. Seas were rough, we fished on the north side of the island off of California light house. May want to take motion sickness pills if needed.
I take the pills just as a precaution.
Saw many Dolphins/porpoises.
Captain Monty, keeps his boat at the marina just past the Holiday inn (high rise).
Usually can reach him at 10:30 to 11:00 am or 3:00 to 3:30 pm.

Good luck,

Rich

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There is a boat dock between the Holiday Inn and the Marriott, beside Mambo’s.
Docked here are two boats, the Caroline and The Pair of Dice.

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« Reply #412 on: July 30, 2007, 08:41:38 PM »

Good evening Monkaeys!
Just re- reading some of the comments and wanted to give my 2 cents. I have always felt there was a Miami porn/money laundering operation. The porn, more than likely snuff, is or was created in Aruba and carried out via hard drives for cash. No internet transfer. The operation heads are based in Miami and they launder the snuff money via real estate on Aruba. This has always been my opinion. Now who the Miami connection is, I have some ideas. . .  Any thoughts out there regarding this?
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« Reply #413 on: July 30, 2007, 08:41:40 PM »

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I read Joran's book translation over the weekend and wondered if Guido was Marco? Yes

Also read the online Diario captures about LvR bust.  I noticed "Discoteca priva tambe" in the artiicle.  Special disco what?  Room, equipment, floor?  Anyone understand Papi better?

"private (or exclusive) disco also" Yes the ol toad reads Papi halfast also.

Hello GrannyToad, good to see you in the cage, welcome.
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« Reply #414 on: July 30, 2007, 08:41:58 PM »

Yep....going to Aruba is a real crap shoot.... Laughing
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« Reply #415 on: July 30, 2007, 08:42:57 PM »

Does anyone know the nationality of the owners of the Pair-A-Dice?
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« Reply #416 on: July 30, 2007, 08:46:08 PM »

G'night all you marvelous monkeys.  Keep up the hard fight.

Mr Sandman.......bring me a dream.......
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« Reply #417 on: July 30, 2007, 08:48:35 PM »

G'night all you marvelous monkeys.  Keep up the hard fight.

Mr Sandman.......bring me a dream.......

Nite SunFreak2!
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« Reply #418 on: July 30, 2007, 08:51:58 PM »

While the Pair of Dice is interesting I have always thought the reference to DiceMen and gamblers either meant some high roller VIP types or the 3 people Joran was with at the Wydham and Radisson the night Beth arrived on the island.

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« Reply #419 on: July 30, 2007, 08:56:14 PM »

While the Pair of Dice is interesting I have always thought the reference to DiceMen and gamblers either meant some high roller VIP types or the 3 people Joran was with at the Wydham and Radisson the night Beth arrived on the island.



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