Lively Case Discussion #669 7/30 - 7/31/2007

[San]

Regarding TES & the shallow grave...I searched the FP for early stories and did not find the exact one that said a stranger pointed the grave out or suggested they look there ...

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Tim Miller
NANCY GRACE
July 13, 2005

MILLER: Well, see, we actually got a lead on that from a guy that we was searched in one area on the total other side of the island that told us that we needed to go over there and what to look for. And when we walked in there, he said, "Stay away from that hole, because there is probably evidence there."

So it was like maybe somebody knew something and was sending us over there. So, you know, at this time, I really don`t know. You would have had to see what we saw to really understand what I`m saying.

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Thank you Kermit.  This is the exact picture I remember seeing in my mind.  I remember the video of when they showed it on TV.

[San]

MONKEYS!!!!!!  i just boarded the new motther monkey ship.

Trying to catch up....not easy ...lol.12 min til i get boooted off library computer.


IS LORENZOE IN JAIL???

When did Tim get to Aruba????

TY

ANY OTHER BIG NEWS??????

Things have been quiet FOM.  Nothing new on the Aruba search or Lorenzo.

[KarmaRoundUp]

I I now wonder where was Tim's and TES search going to be that day before this unidentified man told them about this hole cause it seems to me this was just another put on search ment to distract.[/color][/b]

Good Point,  Was this a distraction to where they should have been looking?  I can agree with this.....

I remember Tim saying the man told them to be prepared not to destroy evidence. 

Found this in the evidence thread:
Shallow grave - "Texas EquuSearch" team received an in-person tip from an Aruban man who gave them a specific location on the north side of the island within “Arikok National Park” to search. When the team got there, about 100’ from the road they found an open 4’ deep and 6’ long hole that MILLER stated, “certainly looks like a grave site that was possibly dug up.” MILLER also said something “definitely was buried,” the hole was “manmade, remote, had easy access yet hard to see.”  He described the 7-12 tipster as white, in his 20’s, 5’ 7”, and 140 pounds, with a dark complexion.

[Lala'sMom]

Okay you guys.  I have had enough Shango jokes for the day.  I am not the one that brought up Shango yesterday.  As Rob would say, read back and see for yourself.  I didn't say one word about it until late last night.  You guys are brutal some days. RES

Once again, please someone, find the FP 2005 archives for me.  Dugga says they are there, I can't find them. Someone will have to take my hand and lead me there otherwise, I will never see them.  I am old and need new glasses.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Regarding TES & the shallow grave...I searched the FP for early stories and did not find the exact one that said a stranger pointed the grave out or suggested they look there ...

<snipped>

Tim Miller
NANCY GRACE
July 13, 2005

MILLER: Well, see, we actually got a lead on that from a guy that we was searched in one area on the total other side of the island that told us that we needed to go over there and what to look for. And when we walked in there, he said, "Stay away from that hole, because there is probably evidence there."

So it was like maybe somebody knew something and was sending us over there. So, you know, at this time, I really don`t know. You would have had to see what we saw to really understand what I`m saying.

Hmmm,sure sounds like someone sent Tim to the other side of the island.Must be a reason for that.

[Slogger]

Click on the main page:  Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

Go past Pop Culture, there is a section..Archives 2005

[Nut44x4]

Let's talk about the Florida connection for a minute.  Rob where are you?   

Does anyone remember and have a reference to when Paulus did in fact go to Florida?  I know the rumors of him going to pick up that video and such.  Could Oduber not have done that instead, maybe?  I can't find where Paulus was ever gone from Aruba after this story broke.  I guess I missed it in all the stuff I have read. TIA

Lala's I asked that question last night when Paulus went to Florida.  Someone mentioned it was the first week Natalee was missing.

I understand that. I am curious just exactly how we know that Paulus was actually in Florida?  Seems strange that he would leave knowing how volatile the situation was at that time.  I should be more to the point and not wander, I guess.  Sorry.

Many people, if I remember correctly, at the time he left said the exact same thing!!  strange that he would leave knowing how volatile the situation was  ...I just can't remember exactly when it was, but I remember it. Working on something else right now, can't look for it yet.

[Lala'sMom]

I about to support Rob's theory here, in a way...so just bear with me.  So Cohen and Co. are asked immediately about helping Aruba as in regard to their livelihood. which we all know is tourism, which in turn allows the gambling and money laundering to occur, thus precipitating the reputation of drug smuggling and prostitution.  Did Simian know this??

11.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian has an IQ of 149 as measured by Gringos.
All of the words of the cohorts of the boy and the Hindus have been hi-jacked. For weeks already. The confrontation of yesterday was brutal. More lies woven. The boy has to fall apart. The Babylonians have their swords ready…
North American special interests have organized a “human chain of prayers� in Aruba. From the Wyndham to the Holiday Inn. Are afraid for their multi-million dollar investments? The Simian heard from the Gringos say they are doing OK. The bread won’t be taken from them. They will just sit this one out.
Posted Jun 30, 2:42 PM |

[Lala'sMom]

Click on the main page:  Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

Go past Pop Culture, there is a section..Archives 2005

Thanks Slogger, but what I want are the FRONT PAGE archives from 2005.  You see, I was able to get to them before we changed houses, now I can't.  For me they are gone.   That is where all the original and intact Shango and Simian posts are.  The ones with all the additional banter in between.  There is a particular one I am looking for.

[nonesuche]

Click on the main page:  Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

Go past Pop Culture, there is a section..Archives 2005

Thanks Slogger, but what I want are the FRONT PAGE archives from 2005.  You see, I was able to get to them before we changed houses, now I can't.  For me they are gone.   That is where all the original and intact Shango and Simian posts are.  The ones with all the additional banter in between.  There is a particular one I am looking for.

I bet you'll have to be nosey to find them 

Hi everyone - I see Starr and chata out there, welcome back !

[Starr]

Click on the main page:  Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

Go past Pop Culture, there is a section..Archives 2005

Thanks Slogger, but what I want are the FRONT PAGE archives from 2005.  You see, I was able to get to them before we changed houses, now I can't.  For me they are gone.   That is where all the original and intact Shango and Simian posts are.  The ones with all the additional banter in between.  There is a particular one I am looking for.

I bet you'll have to be nosey to find them 

Hi everyone - I see Starr and chata out there, welcome back !

Thank you None.
Hope everything is well with you

[Lala'sMom]

Click on the main page:  Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

Go past Pop Culture, there is a section..Archives 2005

Thanks Slogger, but what I want are the FRONT PAGE archives from 2005.  You see, I was able to get to them before we changed houses, now I can't.  For me they are gone.   That is where all the original and intact Shango and Simian posts are.  The ones with all the additional banter in between.  There is a particular one I am looking for.

I bet you'll have to be nosey to find them 

Hi everyone - I see Starr and chata out there, welcome back !

Insert winkie here . LOL

[Tamikosmom]

Regarding TES & the shallow grave...I searched the FP for early stories and did not find the exact one that said a stranger pointed the grave out or suggested they look there ...

<snipped>

Tim Miller
NANCY GRACE
July 13, 2005

MILLER: Well, see, we actually got a lead on that from a guy that we was searched in one area on the total other side of the island that told us that we needed to go over there and what to look for. And when we walked in there, he said, "Stay away from that hole, because there is probably evidence there."

So it was like maybe somebody knew something and was sending us over there. So, you know, at this time, I really don`t know. You would have had to see what we saw to really understand what I`m saying.

]

WOW!!

Kermit ... is that the shallow grave that Tim Miller is referring to.

Janet

[nonesuche]

Starr I'm just keeping on, how about you? I hope it's less humid up there than it is here, I want to bathe in ice cubes lately 

Lala's I work in tech and I can't find all those posts either, but then I think I have too little patience lately, plus nosey didn't get it done 

[Lala'sMom]

I knew the secret to finding them and it does not work any longer.  The FP archives from 2005 are not there.  I read them though and I read them a lot.  I am hoping that someone has them, I never could copy anything from the FP so I was never able to keep them safe.  I tried, I really did.  Why would they not have made the transition?  Some of the most important things we have discussed were in there from the very earliest days.  It was very interesting indeed.

[Starr]

Starr I'm just keeping on, how about you? I hope it's less humid up there than it is here, I want to bathe in ice cubes lately 

Lala's I work in tech and I can't find all those posts either, but then I think I have too little patience lately, plus nosey didn't get it done 

I can't complain None.
It is extremely hot and humid. No AC in my office, I am half asleep!
Its so good to "see" you again

[sharon]

Starr I'm just keeping on, how about you? I hope it's less humid up there than it is here, I want to bathe in ice cubes lately 

Lala's I work in tech and I can't find all those posts either, but then I think I have too little patience lately, plus nosey didn't get it done 

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/02/this-cant-be-good-for-tourism/

But the navigation tools are missing  So, if you don't have them bookmarked, you have to play with the date in the command line.

The good news is -- that they are still there. I'm sure Dugga just has to tweak to make them accessibile (I hope).

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I knew the secret to finding them and it does not work any longer.  The FP archives from 2005 are not there.  I read them though and I read them a lot.  I am hoping that someone has them, I never could copy anything from the FP so I was never able to keep them safe.  I tried, I really did.  Why would they not have made the transition?  Some of the most important things we have discussed were in there from the very earliest days.  It was very interesting indeed.

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LALAS here yah go

Its a start.. just have to go backwards or forwards..  lol  Anyhow this is from June of 2005.. I had it saved


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/07/massive-search-for-missing-alabama-teen-stopped/

[msmarple]

I knew the secret to finding them and it does not work any longer.  The FP archives from 2005 are not there.  I read them though and I read them a lot.  I am hoping that someone has them, I never could copy anything from the FP so I was never able to keep them safe.  I tried, I really did.  Why would they not have made the transition?  Some of the most important things we have discussed were in there from the very earliest days.  It was very interesting indeed.

Lalas - This link goes to June 5 2005. Use "Previous Page" to go page-by-page, or you can over-type in your browser (e.g., change 104 to 91, etc.) The FPs with Natalee Holloway articles are there, but most recent are first.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/category/natalee-holloway/page/104/

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Starr I'm just keeping on, how about you? I hope it's less humid up there than it is here, I want to bathe in ice cubes lately 

Lala's I work in tech and I can't find all those posts either, but then I think I have too little patience lately, plus nosey didn't get it done 

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/02/this-cant-be-good-for-tourism/

But the navigation tools are missing  So, if you don't have them bookmarked, you have to play with the date in the command line.

The good news is -- that they are still there. I'm sure Dugga just has to tweak to make them accessibile (I hope).

LOL Sharon.. I just went thru all my stuff to try to find what you had sent me before..