Lively Case Discussion #670 7/31 - 8/01/2007

[San]

Blue graffiti van I would call Lorenzo's - I thought Croes blue van was plain?

You ever wonder why Lorenzo would own a POS van like that.  Croes would make much more sense to drive a van like that.  Especially him being a DJ.

Hummm I wonder if that is really Croes' van.  Just thinking.

[GrannyToad]

GRANNY TOAD does post about bloomers but they are not the kind you wear.

This is what she calls things put out by the Aruban Disinformation Campaign that take root and blossom into something that is believed, at least by some.

And it started before Beth even arrived in Aruba and as we can see, continues until this day.

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Toady snickers 'til she snorts. Yep. Blog rumors = bloomers.

[Serenity]

sorry these old hands do not type well, I meant "may". Also I am new at this and I do not have a clue how to get one of the cute avatars like ya'll have. Could someone help me when they have time? 

[Lala'sMom]

I am putting this out there for what it's worth.  It is in the same conversations that Simian was having, it's hard to decipher sometimes on the FP because everyone is talking and the order is not clear at times. Just read it all at one time and know I am taking it in the order it is written.

#  kristin on June 25th, 2005 7:26 pm

someone left a message on a travel website, on may 31st, before all of us even knew who natalee even was….and the message was from a woman who’s best friend’s husband went on the trip to aruba with the mountain brook teens, and he ended up having to stay in aruba because “natalee left with a man who ended up being a big time drug dealer and they think they took her to venezuela or something” i will send you all the link…..

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:26 pm

I know! It seems to slow down on the weekends

# scaredshitless on June 25th, 2005 7:27 pm

wow Kristin if that’s true what a revelation!

# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:28 pm

The father is trapped in a legal check mate.

The boy is mutilating his own tongue. He doesn’t want to let the old man down.

# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:28 pm
So, what kind of ‘body fluids’? Blood?

# I-Yell-Chris-In-Hallways on June 25th, 2005 7:29 pm

My heavyset wife, Ingrid, she wantto visit Mt brooke and see what it look like. To honor Natalee. I say natalee not yeat dead. Wait to see what hapen to her

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:29 pm

Someone said her body fluids, but I think they have said it was not blood

# kristin on June 25th, 2005 7:29 pm

ashley79
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 35
Birmingham, AL Posted on: 1:37 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

Just wanted to warn everyone:
My best friend and her husband chaperoned a senior trip of 160 kids down to Aruba, and she returned last night. Her husband had to stay b/c they think that one of the girls was kidnapped, and is possibly in Venezuela now. Her parents flew down, and the State Dept., DEA and several other groups are involved now. She left with a guy from Carlos and Charlie’s, and the cops found out that he is a local drug dealer. Just wanted to let everyone know to please stay safe. If anyone in Aruba has any info., please let me know. I should know more later today. Just please say a prayer.

# kristin on June 25th, 2005 7:31 pm

now this girl ashley 79 has not been answering anyone’s comments and everyone is trying to get a hold of her. she was asked not to talk to anyone by the feds.

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:31 pm

I have read that post before possibly on here. I don’t remember.

# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:32 pm

Then, if it wasn’t blood then what was it?

And was it confirmed that the ‘body fluid’ is Natalee’s?

# KeepHopeAlive on June 25th, 2005 7:32 pm

What did Ashley 79 say before she was told not to say anything more?

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:33 pm

I don’t know…
It could be vaginal fluid. I do not know if that is even factual

# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:34 pm

That would mean she was in the car, AND co-operative. We already know she was in the car. Doesn’t really help much, or am I missing something??

# scaredshitless on June 25th, 2005 7:35 pm

Kristin, that is certainly SHOCKING news and maybe reason for Natalee’s mother’s hope that she’s alive

# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:36 pm

In the other car.

# KeepHopeAlive on June 25th, 2005 7:37 pm

From what I’ve heard on here before. If they had to transport her body, they may have been body fluids in the car. When some one loses their life, they lose their bodily fluids also. I hope that’s not what they found though.

[Tibrogargan]

Lala's - I should not have used the word "original" - I meant the first one you posted.
Have copied here your 3 recent posts :

From the FP:

#  Peter on June 25th, 2005 6:44 pm

What is this about body fluids that you’re all talking about??

I thought that DNA testing came up negative for what was founf in the car . . . .

# Simian on June 25th, 2005 6:47 pm

There are 3 vehicles.


More vehicle conversation from the FP:

#  Checkme on June 25th, 2005 6:55 pm

1. Karpoes car
2. vdS Jeep
3. vdS family car


# Simian on June 25th, 2005 6:57 pm

The phone call made in the small hours.
# edie on June 25th, 2005 6:58 pm

Wow, I did not realize it was in 3 cars. Does anyone know who gave that psychic reading?

# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:00 pm

The boy is biting his tongue. It is all chewed up, bloody and sore.


# Checkme on June 25th, 2005 7:14 pm

And then the blue van…

More:

#  Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:21 pm

Help with this. There was body fluid found in three different card??

And Natalee is the source??? Was this in the news?? I didn’t hear it.

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:21 pm

This blog is really slow on the weekend! People must blog @work to pass the time
# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:22 pm

That should read ‘differnt cars’ . . .

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:22 pm

No Peter, It wasn’t in the news. I think Simian and maybe CHeckme are in Aruba. They are the one’s I have heard it from.

Highlighted sentences are where I think they went off track thinking fluids were in 3 cars and not that there were 3 cars to consider, not just the one Natalee left in.
Hope this makes more sense 

[klaasend]

sorry these old hands do not type well, I meant "may". Also I am new at this and I do not have a clue how to get one of the cute avatars like ya'll have. Could someone help me when they have time? 

What would you like?  Would you like a monkey or some other picture?

Edited to add:  WELCOME! 

[klaasend]

Klaas,

Wasn't there a bright blue sort of Jeep that was also a Sloot vehicle?  May have had canvas top.

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Not that I'm aware of

[Tibrogargan]

Blue graffiti van I would call Lorenzo's - I thought Croes blue van was plain?

You ever wonder why Lorenzo would own a POS van like that.  Croes would make much more sense to drive a van like that.  Especially him being a DJ.

Hummm I wonder if that is really Croes' van.  Just thinking.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm   - maybe they share their cars like they share their girlfriends?

[klaasend]

Hi everyone!
Have we heard when equasearch nay be going to Aruba?

No date set yet as far as I know

[Lala'sMom]

Notice:  I will skip things that are not important to the context if that is okay with everyone.  These comments are long and involve so many different conversations that  sometimes I need to skip things.

#  edie on June 25th, 2005 7:39 pm

I have heard that also… But why would any idiot transfer a body into 3 different vehichles


# scaredshitless on June 25th, 2005 7:40 pm

I don’t think those 3 stooges would have time to transport a body in 3 vehicles (my apologies to Moe, Larry and Curly)


# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:40 pm

I would think he would be pretty worried about getting caught.


# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:41 pm

If there was that MUCH body fluid due to expiration, then that would be cause to criminally charge these clowns, I would think. But who knows in Aruba.


# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:41 pm

Kalpoes went home. Joran stayed behind. Somebody had to come get him.

[Anna]

GRANNY TOAD does post about bloomers but they are not the kind you wear.

This is what she calls things put out by the Aruban Disinformation Campaign that take root and blossom into something that is believed, at least by some.

And it started before Beth even arrived in Aruba and as we can see, continues until this day.

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Toady snickers 'til she snorts. Yep. Blog rumors = bloomers.

That's right!  Blog rumors = bloomers!  Have not thought of them in a while but there were bloomers a plenty from the start.


Also hope JANET sees my comment that yes, it makes no sense that there was no blood in Deepak's clean car on May 31 yet later everybody on the island just about claimed to have seen it.  What, there was blood added after Deepak was questioned on the 31st?

Something off with the timing of that.

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[Serenity]

 I would love a monkey,maybe a cute baby one?
Thank you Klassend

[Anna]

Klaas,

Wasn't there a bright blue sort of Jeep that was also a Sloot vehicle?  May have had canvas top.

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Not that I'm aware of

I guess it is the red one I am thinking of but for some reason I remembered it as blue.  I looked and I don't have any blue jeep either. 
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[thecuz]

I would love a monkey,maybe a cute baby one?
Thank you Klassend

Baby monkey's are the best!!!
welcome!!!
evening...sorry i missed bt...her sockmonkey adventures the last day were hilarious!!!

[Lala'sMom]

IF this is our very own Rob, then Simian was speaking to him here: 

#  The Robster on June 25th, 2005 7:42 pm

Sadly I believe Natalee’s body was disposed of and will never be found except by a stroke of good luck. There never will be a “corpus delecti” and all the murderer(s) or accessory(ies) has to do is not break, as they have up to now. They’ll never be convicted unless we have either a confession or an eyewitness. Someone has to make him/them crack or this will forever remain a mystery. Actually the white slave theory would be wishful thinking. Highly unlikely she is still alive!

Rob

# kristin on June 25th, 2005 7:42 pm

dad came to get him right simian, and they had natalee’s body with them?

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:43 pm

Yea but were Kalpoes there when he killed her, or when she died by intoxication? If she is not still with us. Didn’t JvDS tell his mom he was alone on the beach with her?

# Maya99 on June 25th, 2005 7:44 pm

Hey, Kristin
I’ve finally found you guys. K, I tried to e-mail you back the other day, but it couldn’t be delivered. I’m new to this — in fact this is my first post in real time, but I’ve been following your posts for the last few days with great interest, while trying to figure out how to join in. So, I, too, have been biting my tongue, Simian. ha

Did you hear that Rudy Croes, the Justice Minister said that Senior failed to be a judge in the Netherlands, and had been talking to him about what to do for a job a week before Natalee disappeared?

Since I am such a novice at this, could someone please tell me how to stay with the thread instead of being bounced back to the beginning after posting a message? Thanks.


# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:44 pm

Not even a confession will help.

One witness is not a witness.

The body is needed.


# scaredshitless on June 25th, 2005 7:44 pm

why is simian writing in cryptic blurbs. Is he unable to speak normallY?

[San]

sorry these old hands do not type well, I meant "may". Also I am new at this and I do not have a clue how to get one of the cute avatars like ya'll have. Could someone help me when they have time? 

Welcome Serenity.

[Serenity]

what an adorable baby! I wonder how long he/she sat still for that pictue

[Anna]

Deepak seems to have a sort of magic car.  All clean, so much so ALE comments on its pristine condition on May 31 when questioning him.

Later, several comment on there being blood "all over" the inside of this vehicle.  Even the Prime Minister claims to have seen this blood along with the FBI and others.

Deepak's magic car is spotted at the Sloot residence by kid with CCroes who even notes the license plate just minutes prior to the arrival of Beth and the Alabama delegation.

Deepak claims to have been at the casino with Joran in the magic car during this period of time.

Can this magic car be in two locations at one time?

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[Blue Moon]

Did you see Greta's show about the guy killed in St. John?  Appears to be very similar to Natalle's case.  Greta asked the parents about Natalee's case and if they were familar with it. 

[Serenity]

Hi San
Glad to be here. I'm a little nervous because this is my first time. But I have kept track of the forum since day one and I just want all of you to know that this site has kept me focused on this disappearance of this sweet child. All of you are wonderful to take the time to help try to sort this out.