Lively Case Discussion #670 7/31 - 8/01/2007

[JustMeT]

Hi Sunny. I am just thinking maybe it was a different car?

[Kimmy53]

there, not thee. When frustrated I tend to have typos.

 Heck.. I must be fristrated all the time then.. LOL   

 

  see? Frustrated I mean..

 

[SunnyinTX]

Welcome JustMe-

For whatever it's worth, an immediate family member of Natalee's confirmed the FBI did 'in the field' tests on the supposed blood in Deepak's car to confirm it was blood? It was a copious amount and the departure point utilized for volume was the blood likely surpassed the 4 pint mark which the FBI considers the benchmark of certain death due to blood loss?

I would ask that to be confirmed once again but I am not in touch with that individual at this time, but I will ask others who might be to see if this still holds true?

thanks None...that's very similar to what my understanding was.....

[klaasend]

Sunny - unless they were told by the FBI to keep quiet about it.  If true, ALE may not that some of the others were drugged.  It could be the "card" the FBI is holding?

[Kimmy53]

Yeah,I think this date rape drugging has been going on for a long time on Aruba.With the tourist females and the island females,all apparently right under ALE nose and it seems almost like they approve of it happening,especially that slime ball Dennis Jacobs.
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I believe this sort of activity has been going on for years there. Paulus, Van der Straten, all the "elders" . Joran and the others are 2nd or 3rd generation.  ALE knows what has gone on and ignored it...

[KarmaRoundUp]

Janet posted a very good question last night that no one seemed to notice.  I did respond and would like further comments.

The police note the clean condition of Deepak's car in their interrogation of him on May 31.  So when was the blood seen in the car as reported by Oduber, the FBI and others?  Did blood get in his car AFTER the questioning on the 31st?  Was its presence made known only by a Luminol test or what?  We never heard of one being done and were given the impression that it was a considerable amount of clearly visible to the naked eye blood in the car.

So is Deepak's car magic or what?  No blood on the 31st when questioned then just about everybody on the island later claims to have seen the blood in his car.

Then again, we have this same magic car at the Sloot compound and even verified by the license plate number by the kid with CCroes.  This is just minutes before Beth and the Alabama delegation arrive at the Sloot compound.  But we have witnesses and even their own claims to have been at the casino at this same time.  Can a car be in two places at once?

There is something very suspicious about Deepak's car for sure.

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I agree and wasn't there some talk early in the case about the tinted windows on the Kalpoe car?Something about the car they showed being towed on tv didn't have the dark tint that Deepak's car has?

[Tamikosmom]

ARUBA - The Tragic Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise

Dave Holloway

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In fact, he (Jacobs) was so confident that she was just partying it up or on drugs that he told us this particular bar would be the best place to find her. However, he did warn us to watch our drinks very carefully, adding that sometimes people put drugs into them.

[IBE]

Any update on the location where TES will be in CA with the Donna Jou case? Red announce they were coming today.

Love you Klaas, but, gads, I can hardly keep up with one thread but will try my best at the other two.

[KarmaRoundUp]

Janet posted a very good question last night that no one seemed to notice.  I did respond and would like further comments.

The police note the clean condition of Deepak's car in their interrogation of him on May 31.  So when was the blood seen in the car as reported by Oduber, the FBI and others?  Did blood get in his car AFTER the questioning on the 31st?  Was its presence made known only by a Luminol test or what?  We never heard of one being done and were given the impression that it was a considerable amount of clearly visible to the naked eye blood in the car.

So is Deepak's car magic or what?  No blood on the 31st when questioned then just about everybody on the island later claims to have seen the blood in his car.

Then again, we have this same magic car at the Sloot compound and even verified by the license plate number by the kid with CCroes.  This is just minutes before Beth and the Alabama delegation arrive at the Sloot compound.  But we have witnesses and even their own claims to have been at the casino at this same time.  Can a car be in two places at once?

There is something very suspicious about Deepak's car for sure.

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I believe there blood was in his car.  The police knew this.  These statements were professionally altered.  They have contradicted every negative statement that was made in Aruba and in all the PV's.  They even made Steve Cohen look like a fool when he made the statement that two of the boys had sex with Natalee.

Aruba went back and tried to rewrite history by editing these documents by the professionals they hired.

This is why we will never see the videos that go alone with the documents.

San,I think the same....they tried to sanitize all the lies told and now what.....if they interogated here in the US like they seemed to do in Aruba,just about all of the criminals would be walking among us,free.Wasn't it said early in the case that the FBI were able to sit in on some of these interogations?

[Rob]

any chance FEB is one of the others drugged?

that chick made some bizarre statements.

I can't remember back that far. What statement did she make that were bizarre?

Me either and am curious.
Rob: Can you elaborate on what you thought was bizarre in her statements?

Shadow, she just seem to say she saw Natalee somewhere...and it fuels people that think there is another side to this phrase - 'I saw her back at the Hotel, I'm just going to leave it at that....'

WTF???

[JuJu]

Welcome JustMe-

For whatever it's worth, an immediate family member of Natalee's confirmed the FBI did 'in the field' tests on the supposed blood in Deepak's car to confirm it was blood? It was a copious amount and the departure point utilized for volume was the blood likely surpassed the 4 pint mark which the FBI considers the benchmark of certain death due to blood loss?

I would ask that to be confirmed once again but I am not in touch with that individual at this time, but I will ask others who might be to see if this still holds true?

thanks None...that's very similar to what my understanding was.....

WELCOME ALL NEWBIES!

Any ideas on what happened to cause her to have that amount of blood loss?

I believe that BT stated that the blood was in DK's car.....

[SunnyinTX]

I have my doubts about the coverup being done because Paul was a judge...do any of you think he may be a player in the drug trade and money laundering.....and that the "Big Boys" protected him to protect themselves.....

hi JuJu....I think there were several factors involved....pvds was responsible for contracts on the island...so i think he probably called in some IOU's...but i also think mamasloot has higher/political connections in holland than papasloot....and i think she called on those connections.....look at the people....van stratten.....wouldn't allow the house to be searched. Judge letting the sporter go after sentencing him to more days in KIA....but after a private talk with the sporter and parents he lets him go....KJ...gung ho...until she goes to holland and comes back.....someone very influential got the word out....JMO of course

[SunnyinTX]

Hi Sunny. I am just thinking maybe it was a different car?

I am thinking you are right.....

[JustMeT]

Janet posted a very good question last night that no one seemed to notice.  I did respond and would like further comments. Sorry Anna I wasn't on SM last night
The police note the clean condition of Deepak's car in their interrogation of him on May 31.  So when was the blood seen in the car as reported by Oduber, the FBI and others?  Did blood get in his car AFTER the questioning on the 31st?  Was its presence made known only by a Luminol test or what?  We never heard of one being done and were given the impression that it was a considerable amount of clearly visible to the naked eye blood in the car.

So is Deepak's car magic or what?  No blood on the 31st when questioned then just about everybody on the island later claims to have seen the blood in his car. there's an answer....but I just don't know what it is...I would guess...that luminol discovered blood ........

Then again, we have this same magic car at the Sloot compound and even verified by the license plate number by the kid with CCroes.  This is just minutes before Beth and the Alabama delegation arrive at the Sloot compound.  But we have witnesses and even their own claims to have been at the casino at this same time.  Can a car be in two places at once?

There is something very suspicious about Deepak's car for sure..

there sure is......what 2 similar cars?  didn't a relative of his own a car lot???

I may be wrong but I believe the step father works at a car lot of sorts on the island. Might be a rental.

[SunnyinTX]

Sunny - unless they were told by the FBI to keep quiet about it.  If true, ALE may not that some of the others were drugged.  It could be the "card" the FBI is holding?

I guess that's a real possibility....I do believe the FBI has a lot of information .....and are just waiting for a time they can use it......I can only imagine how frustrated these agents were...with the restraints put on them by aruba

[klaasend]

Any update on the location where TES will be in CA with the Donna Jou case? Red announce they were coming today.

Love you Klaas, but, gads, I can hardly keep up with one thread but will try my best at the other two.

IBE - sorry I know, having the extra threads is harder on San and I too.  I do think most everything will end up being posted in this thread along with off-topic stuff.

I see if I can find out about TES

[KarmaRoundUp]

Thanks San. Agreed 100%. Too bad for him and his brother they didnt tell the truth day one. I just dont get why they agreed to cover for the Sloots.

Welcome JustMe
I think that Deepak is much more involved in this than his brother but either way,Deepak is/was trying to protect his brother.I wonder why they had to leave their home country.
I think the 2K's participated in the rape of Natalee and for that reason(and seeing how Joran is in good with the so called justice system in Aruba:Paulus)Deepak really had no choice to lie in the beginning.Then a few days later when it seemed Joran was trying to throw both Kalpoe's under the bus and blame them both for Natalee's murder(while making himself look innocent).....that's when the chit hit the fan and could be why their lying stories STILL do not match up.Deepak knows it's much too late to tell the truth now,I think he knows he is going down for the crimes against Natalee no matter how this turns out.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Robots I see you 


You better get your metal ass back here.. I have those dumb bunny ears on cause of you.
 And Wreck dont want to have to smoke a whole box of cigars himself either.. 

[JusticeforNatalee]

"Yeah,I think this date rape drugging has been going on for a long time on Aruba.With the tourist females and the island females,all apparently right under ALE nose..."


Karma--I think you are right. And ALE let it go on. Despicable.

[Rob]

That post Klaas found explains Haley Segonia's drug test.

Did I get her name right?