Lively Case Discussion #670 7/31 - 8/01/2007

[Nut44x4]

Truth: Maybe they didn't make it back to the hotel? Just thinkning out loud because this isn't adding up to me. If they had been drugged, why not say something??

I think it is garbage. MO

[KarmaRoundUp]

I think it is very strange that in the witness statement of Osman Farouk Osman, owner of Automotive Enterprises given August 6th, 2005 did not even mention the word blood.
If this is the  actual statement, and I guess this we will never know for certain, he is asked 3 questions only?

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"On your question if it is normal that the man" Deepak KALPOE leaves his car at my garage, I answer you the following:

Because I had worked in the past on the car of Deepak, he approached me to keep z/n its car for him in my garage in the "Automotive Enterprises established" at Wayaca for him. I must note that I in the past the car of Deepak had twice left his car in my garage when I worked on it. With the car of Deepak I mean the grey four door private car of the make "Honda Civic".

On your question if Deepak had told me how he knew that the missing American little girl Natalee Ann HOLLOWAY on Monday, 30 May 2005, in the night time hours, had only her identification document (drivers license) and an amount of US $50, =, in her possession, I answer you the following:

At absolutely no moment did Deepak tell me how he knew that missing little girl only had her identity card and US $50, =, in her possession. You must ask it to Deepak.

On your question if the brothers of "Deepak Sharma KALPOE" and "Satish Sharma KALPOE" have a girlfriend and also if I have seen them ever with a girlfriend, I answer you the following:

I have never seen Deepak and Satish with a girlfriend. You must ask them if they have a girlfriend.

When was this statement given and to whom?Does anyone know when Deepak took his car to AE and why?

[JustMeT]

Thanks San. Agreed 100%. Too bad for him and his brother they didnt tell the truth day one. I just dont get why they agreed to cover for the Sloots.

Welcome JustMe
I think that Deepak is much more involved in this than his brother but either way,Deepak is/was trying to protect his brother.I wonder why they had to leave their home country.
I think the 2K's participated in the rape of Natalee and for that reason(and seeing how Joran is in good with the so called justice system in Aruba:Paulus)Deepak really had no choice to lie in the beginning.Then a few days later when it seemed Joran was trying to throw both Kalpoe's under the bus and blame them both for Natalee's murder(while making himself look innocent).....that's when the chit hit the fan and could be why their lying stories STILL do not match up.Deepak knows it's much too late to tell the truth now,I think he knows he is going down for the crimes against Natalee no matter how this turns out.

Hi Karma. I thought they left their country to be with their mother?

[Rob]

I think it is very strange that in the witness statement of Osman Farouk Osman, owner of Automotive Enterprises given August 6th, 2005 did not even mention the word blood.

That is because Edwin Comemencia planted the blood after the car was confiscated.

[klaasend]

That post Klaas found explains Haley Segonia's drug test.

Did I get her name right?

Except WHO IS Haley?

[Rob]

That post Klaas found explains Haley Segonia's drug test.

Did I get her name right?

Except WHO IS Haley?

the girl with the wine bottle????

[Nut44x4]

any chance FEB is one of the others drugged?

that chick made some bizarre statements.

I can't remember back that far. What statement did she make that were bizarre?

Me either and am curious.
Rob: Can you elaborate on what you thought was bizarre in her statements?

Shadow, she just seem to say she saw Natalee somewhere...and it fuels people that think there is another side to this phrase - 'I saw her back at the Hotel, I'm just going to leave it at that....'

WTF???

I can't find her exact statement right now...it was either NG or Greta interview I think...but she did not say 'HOTEL'...read the thing carefully. She said...I saw her there..and I'll leave it at that. They were discussing C&C's and Holiday Inn at the same time......and it made it sound like she meant Hotel.   ARGGGGGG...she did not mean BACK AT Holiday Inn!!

[klaasend]

That post Klaas found explains Haley Segonia's drug test.

Did I get her name right?

Except WHO IS Haley?

the girl with the wine bottle????

Forget WINE, it's URINE...never was wine.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

That post Klaas found explains Haley Segonia's drug test.

Did I get her name right?

Except WHO IS Haley?

An island girl? Is there a Haley? Im confused..

[KarmaRoundUp]

I have my doubts about the coverup being done because Paul was a judge...do any of you think he may be a player in the drug trade and money laundering.....and that the "Big Boys" protected him to protect themselves.....

I think the coverup was done mainly to protect Aruba's tourism $$$.
I also think that Paulus has something on a few on Aruba from his temp judge days and has used that knowledge to make sure his son is protected and not prosecuted.

[Kimmy53]

Welcome JustMe-

For whatever it's worth, an immediate family member of Natalee's confirmed the FBI did 'in the field' tests on the supposed blood in Deepak's car to confirm it was blood? It was a copious amount and the departure point utilized for volume was the blood likely surpassed the 4 pint mark which the FBI considers the benchmark of certain death due to blood loss?

I would ask that to be confirmed once again but I am not in touch with that individual at this time, but I will ask others who might be to see if this still holds true?

thanks None...that's very similar to what my understanding was.....

WELCOME ALL NEWBIES!

Any ideas on what happened to cause her to have that amount of blood loss?

I believe that BT stated that the blood was in DK's car.....

Juju- There have always been alot of statements about Natalee "hitting her head"  I believe it was a head injury... The hit her head story was made up at first - just in case she was found - remember Deepak saying "If they see that shit"..

Makes me sick to think of it

[Angiex911dsptchr]

any chance FEB is one of the others drugged?

that chick made some bizarre statements.

I can't remember back that far. What statement did she make that were bizarre?

Me either and am curious.
Rob: Can you elaborate on what you thought was bizarre in her statements?

Shadow, she just seem to say she saw Natalee somewhere...and it fuels people that think there is another side to this phrase - 'I saw her back at the Hotel, I'm just going to leave it at that....'

WTF???

I can't find her exact statement right now...it was either NG or Greta interview I think...but she did not say 'HOTEL'...read the thing carefully. She said...I saw her there..and I'll leave it at that. They were discussing C&C's and Holiday Inn at the same time......and it made it sound like she meant Hotel.   ARGGGGGG...she did not mean BACK AT Holiday Inn!!

  NUT.. there was a list at SCRUX before.. I looked.. but now it seems you have to be a member to look there? Maybe I am wrong?

[klaasend]

That post Klaas found explains Haley Segonia's drug test.

Did I get her name right?

Except WHO IS Haley?

An island girl? Is there a Haley? Im confused..

Angie - the FBI analyized a urine sample from her.  I believe she is an American and not an Aruban.  We don't know who she is and was not one of the MB kids.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

That post Klaas found explains Haley Segonia's drug test.

Did I get her name right?

Except WHO IS Haley?

An island girl? Is there a Haley? Im confused..

Angie - the FBI analyized a urine sample from her.  I believe she is an American and not an Aruban.  We don't know who she is and was not one of the MB kids.

  Thanks !!

[JustMeT]

I think it is very strange that in the witness statement of Osman Farouk Osman, owner of Automotive Enterprises given August 6th, 2005 did not even mention the word blood.

That is because Edwin Comemencia planted the blood after the car was confiscated.

Hi Rob. You mean in the Kalpoe car?

[SunFreak2]

What is the breaking story out of Georgia about?  Another family wiped out by a nut?

Police Have Few Clues in Double Fatal Shooting at Duluth Apartment 
 
Last Edited: Tuesday, 31 Jul 2007, 8:14 PM EDT 


DULUTH, Ga. (FOX 5) -- Police have little to go on after discovering two men shot to death in a Duluth apartment. It happened Tuesday at the Promenade at Berkley Lake Apartments on Peachtree Industrial Boulevard. Click on video for more information. Marc Teichner reports

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3938726&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Hello - heck that is near where I live.

[Rob]

any chance FEB is one of the others drugged?

that chick made some bizarre statements.

I can't remember back that far. What statement did she make that were bizarre?

Me either and am curious.
Rob: Can you elaborate on what you thought was bizarre in her statements?

Shadow, she just seem to say she saw Natalee somewhere...and it fuels people that think there is another side to this phrase - 'I saw her back at the Hotel, I'm just going to leave it at that....'

WTF???

I can't find her exact statement right now...it was either NG or Greta interview I think...but she did not say 'HOTEL'...read the thing carefully. She said...I saw her there..and I'll leave it at that. They were discussing C&C's and Holiday Inn at the same time......and it made it sound like she meant Hotel.   ARGGGGGG...she did not mean BACK AT Holiday Inn!!

Ok.. I think you are right Nut... she did say 'THERE'...and I don't think it could have been the hotel, because she left earlier right?

[KarmaRoundUp]

I have my doubts about the coverup being done because Paul was a judge...do any of you think he may be a player in the drug trade and money laundering.....and that the "Big Boys" protected him to protect themselves.....

hi JuJu....I think there were several factors involved....pvds was responsible for contracts on the island...so i think he probably called in some IOU's...but i also think mamasloot has higher/political connections in holland than papasloot....and i think she called on those connections.....look at the people....van stratten.....wouldn't allow the house to be searched. Judge letting the sporter go after sentencing him to more days in KIA....but after a private talk with the sporter and parents he lets him go....KJ...gung ho...until she goes to holland and comes back.....someone very influential got the word out....JMO of course

That is interesting.What influences does Anita have in Holland?And if true or if her influences are powerful enough,what happens now?Would this mean the Dutch investigators sent in is just another part of the game being played out?

[San]

Sunny - unless they were told by the FBI to keep quiet about it.  If true, ALE may not that some of the others were drugged.  It could be the "card" the FBI is holding?

This is why the ALE is so interested in knowing what the FBI has in their possession.  The FBI allowed them to be interviewed on their own territory and probably with their own lawyers present.  That would make the ALE very nervous with their line of questioning and they probably didn't get what they wanted out of the kids they questioned.

[shadow]

any chance FEB is one of the others drugged?

that chick made some bizarre statements.

I can't remember back that far. What statement did she make that were bizarre?

Me either and am curious.
Rob: Can you elaborate on what you thought was bizarre in her statements?

Shadow, she just seem to say she saw Natalee somewhere...and it fuels people that think there is another side to this phrase - 'I saw her back at the Hotel, I'm just going to leave it at that....'

WTF???

Thanks Rob. That is weird.