SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[MumInOhio]

Mum

The privilege log relates to items given to Deepak.  If Val gave a statement it might be in the log of Joran and/or Paulus.  We have only seen items that Deepak has listed as possibly related to the Dr. Phil request for items.  We have not seen everything available on the case.

Thanks Buckeye....I keep reminding myself that...LOL....I bet that there is a whole lot that Dr Phil's lawyers don't even know they would like to see....

But if Paulus was first questioned on the 14th and maybe Anita on the 15th that's a big stretch from the 2nd when Nadira and Luis were brought in.

[Lala'sMom]

I really don't know where to start...LOL  After all this time you would think I would not be confused.

[MumInOhio]

I have no idea why I am posting this for CAPSLOCK.

There is a business called The News at Italiestraat 5, phone 582-4725.  I can't find out anything else.  Perhaps someone can do a Chamber search.

http://www.arubayp.com/ListBossPage.html

Of course that link didn't work for me, but guess where it takes me when I google The News Aruba....who would have thought....tourism...Maybe this is what Caps meant???


http://www.arubanews.net/


http://www.aruba.com/news/

You have my attention Lala's...LOL...

[Buckeye]

Mum

The privilege log relates to items given to Deepak.  If Val gave a statement it might be in the log of Joran and/or Paulus.  We have only seen items that Deepak has listed as possibly related to the Dr. Phil request for items.  We have not seen everything available on the case.

Thanks Buckeye....I keep reminding myself that...LOL....I bet that there is a whole lot that Dr Phil's lawyers don't even know they would like to see....

But if Paulus was first questioned on the 14th and maybe Anita on the 15th that's a big stretch from the 2nd when Nadira and Luis were brought in.

For all we know, Paulus could have been questioned the morning of 5/31.  Oh no, that's right, he was only helping Joran get his facts straight.

[Buckeye]

I have no idea why I am posting this for CAPSLOCK.

There is a business called The News at Italiestraat 5, phone 582-4725.  I can't find out anything else.  Perhaps someone can do a Chamber search.

http://www.arubayp.com/ListBossPage.html

Of course that link didn't work for me, but guess where it takes me when I google The News Aruba....who would have thought....tourism...Maybe this is what Caps meant???


http://www.arubanews.net/


http://www.aruba.com/news/

You have my attention Lala's...LOL...

Just put The News, in the upper right search box on original page.  Then click link that comes up.  It's the phone book.  The UPI (united Press International) listed the same address (at least in a book from 2002).

[MumInOhio]

I really don't know where to start...LOL  After all this time you would think I would not be confused.

Lala's ...let's start at the beginning...


Was it Shockthe monkey posting as something like Valerie on the 16th...will do a search and see if I can find it...

 

[Lala'sMom]

I really don't know where to start...LOL  After all this time you would think I would not be confused.

Lala's ...let's start at the beginning...


Was it Shockthe monkey posting as something like Valerie on the 16th...will do a search and see if I can find it...

 

Vanessa? Also I think countrymoon had multiple personalities. LOL

[MumInOhio]

Will do Buckeye...Thanks...I thought that you were bringing your post from the main thread over for Caps...

Thanks quote Buckeye:

In 2002, the Editor in Chief of Aruba Today was Vanja Oduber.  Those Oduber's seem to be into a lot of the newspapers.

[MumInOhio]

I really don't know where to start...LOL  After all this time you would think I would not be confused.

Lala's ...let's start at the beginning...


Was it Shockthe monkey posting as something like Valerie on the 16th...will do a search and see if I can find it...

 

Vanessa? Also I think countrymoon had multiple personalities. LOL

That was it...and I thought I had countrymoon worked out..I was just going back to the 16th to see what was said, but I'm not quite there yet.

[Lala'sMom]

Are we going to use Merian Ernest posts also? 

[MumInOhio]

Are we going to use Merian Ernest posts also? 

Of Course....Interesting on the 16th. crs says that the boys are cracking and Daddy needs to get in that jail and chill out for 120 days. Also that they will never be charged because of lack of evidence...who would have thought that on the 16th....hmmmm!

[MumInOhio]

Whoops...tell the 3 boys to chill out for 120 days and it will all be over...

[MumInOhio]

Here's one...though not from the beginning...

  Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
There is no arrest of the Mom.
Posted Jun 24, 2:17 PM


Interesting that Anita was called 'the wild card' and it was thought she could crack out of guilt. Could she have been one of the cards that was played? It would be a 'legal checkmate' as well.  Thoughts?...

[Lala'sMom]

Whoops...tell the 3 boys to chill out for 120 days and it will all be over...

It's interesting to see how there are those that knew things could blow over fairly quickly with patience isn't it.  If you notice crs and Lucy and Checkme and Shock were some of the first to say this.  Lucy wasn't in Aruba...she was on another island from what I recall.

[Lala'sMom]

Here's one...though not from the beginning...

  Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
There is no arrest of the Mom.
Posted Jun 24, 2:17 PM


Interesting that Anita was called 'the wild card' and it was thought she could crack out of guilt. Could she have been one of the cards that was played? It would be a 'legal checkmate' as well.  Thoughts?...

Thanks for finding that post, there is another one by Simian addressed to Lucy or crs that I have looked for so long I have forgotten. Yes, another possibility...of course you are now talking about Shango and not Simian.  LOL

[MumInOhio]

Whoops...tell the 3 boys to chill out for 120 days and it will all be over...

It's interesting to see how there are those that knew things could blow over fairly quickly with patience isn't it.  If you notice crs and Lucy and Checkme and Shock were some of the first to say this.  Lucy wasn't in Aruba...she was on another island from what I recall.

It is very interesting...this is the day before Simian started posting....did he/she know as well? Will have to keep that in mind when I reread the interactions between posters.

Where did Caps go?....I have questions?

[MumInOhio]

Here's one...though not from the beginning...

  Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
There is no arrest of the Mom.
Posted Jun 24, 2:17 PM


Interesting that Anita was called 'the wild card' and it was thought she could crack out of guilt. Could she have been one of the cards that was played? It would be a 'legal checkmate' as well.  Thoughts?...

Thanks for finding that post, there is another one by Simian addressed to Lucy or crs that I have looked for so long I have forgotten. Yes, another possibility...of course you are now talking about Shango and not Simian.  LOL

I guess that I am going on the theory that Shango posted to refute Simian, so therefore they are intertwined. I should have gone back to see what Shango's answer to, if any, was to Simian's post.

That first post of Simian's wasn't dated and timestamped. I hope that I run across it when I'm reading as he seems to be talking about Chandra Levy days apart! Seems like it should belong on the 22nd...out of context of course!

[MumInOhio]

One more and I'll let youor someone else, get a word in edgeways....You asked the other day about 'what other car'...well Joran's of course...LOL

again from the same date and poster:

If the fluid you mention is the fluid found in Joran’s honda, they have previously said no further tests would be conducted on the substance since it was not blood.

[Lala'sMom]

This seems to be one of the first cryptic posts by Simian...before this Simian was reviewing the ideas tht were being mentioned in the media...sex slavery, insurance scams, runaway...etc.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 2:59 pm
There’s not even a trace of her. At this point I am inclined to believe in a theory that has been going around on the island, but that I find difficult to post here.


These are snippets of the conversation leading up to this post and if you notice Simian never answers the question...he/she just disappears and then just as suddenly reappears headed in different direction.


#  VANESSA on June 22nd, 2005 2:56 pm

I’m worried about checkme; has anyone heard from him today?


# scampos on June 22nd, 2005 2:56 pm

born 2 b wild, it is totally +++++++ to put Paris Hilton on a pedestal. It is actually an embarrassment


# Jake on June 22nd, 2005 2:56 pm

The 2 Queens are bickering!


# pktbk on June 22nd, 2005 2:57 pm

vanessa-nope….not at all.

nor have i seen popy.


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 2:57 pm

Countrymoon has said nothing that would make me think she is not legit. i think we all figure out the fakes pretty quick around here.


# pktbk on June 22nd, 2005 2:57 pm

jake-i was thinking that, but i didn’t say it. lol


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 2:59 pm

Checkme was on very early this morning and has not shown up since - I think he had some new news so hopefully he shows up.


# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 2:59 pm

There’s not even a trace of her. At this point I am inclined to believe in a theory that has been going around on the island, but that I find difficult to post here.


# scaredshitless on June 22nd, 2005 3:00 pm

well CRS can you tell Leopard queen is a fake blonde?

Pktbk: Nj is full of hispanics, blacks, Indians, etc. so unless you travel in the rich towns, there are few blond people to be seen. I like the diversity though.


scaredshitless on June 22nd, 2005 3:01 pm

Simian: and what is that?



#  crs on June 22nd, 2005 3:02 pm

Simian - just tell us - don’t offer us pudding and then eat it yourself.


# Jake on June 22nd, 2005 3:03 pm

Simien:
How can you possibly find it hard to post anything here! Pls. tell me/us what is going around on the island!


DFW Guy on June 22nd, 2005 3:04 pm

Simian, come on. What is th rumor on the island?

crs on June 22nd, 2005 3:11 pm

Simien - We’re waiting……….we don’t have all day!


#  Simian on June 22nd, 2005 3:11 pm

What Countrymoon is saying is true. In Aruba we wonder how come WE do not get a chance to interrogate some chaperone or the group of kids that were swimming in front of the Holiday Inn until 6 in the morning.

#  VANESSA on June 22nd, 2005 3:14 pm

Countrymoon, do you feel there is a chance she is alive and being held against her will?


Jake on June 22nd, 2005 3:14 pm

Okay Simen - PRETTY PLEASE tell us what is being said on the island!!!!!

DFW Guy on June 22nd, 2005 3:17 pm

Simian, can’t you at least tell us what the rumor is? It’s not like you started it. Come on.


crs on June 22nd, 2005 3:21 pm

I guess Simian’s mom put him down for a nap finally.

#  Dutch on Aruba on June 22nd, 2005 3:22 pm

Rumor is …. she disappeared before. But I hear a lot of countries, lastly The Bahamas. Supposedly this info came through police inspectors and even from her dad.


Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:23 pm

The news in Aruba has reported that Joran has shut down.

[Lala'sMom]

Keep talking Mum...I am listening with both ears this time. LOL