SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[memphis]

#  crs on June 22nd, 2005 4:47 pm

what was up with Checkme’s last post. Checkme, give me something today - you are always right on.


# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 4:48 pm

I am here. Can’t say the things I want…


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 4:48 pm

Thanks checkme!!

# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 5:06 pm

crs
I think you blew the cover.

I don't think Simian was answering CRS's call to CheckMe, but I think Lucy may have thought so. Who knows? It just jumped out at me.

Yes, it does just jump out..that is why I felt the need to post it.  I guess you can take it many ways, I got the impression that some of these were one and the same people trying to remain incognito in all this.  Klaas has long said that several posters posted under various names at different times...whether to confuse or not is the question.

Was Lucy one of them? If so, she may have let the cat out of the bag, or maybe she was already suspecting Simian and Checkme to be one in the same.

# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:42 pm

I think Lucy thought sim and checkme were the same person.

                     

[Anna]

The NEWS

Saw this today on THE NEWS.  Timely, isn't it?   

THE POSTER ISSUE

Glenda Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:48 am   

BhamMom wrote:
According to Glenda, Julia said this was the poster created before arriving in Aruba. 

GLENDA
Not true Bham, you can read my posts back to 2005. I don't know when it was made. Beth gave the Original Hootie "Flyer" on June 1st around 10 am. Beth told Julia that she had made Kidnapped Posters the day before at The News with a picture from Natalee's Camera, but van der Straaten wouldn't allow her to put them up. Beth was very angry at van der Straaten. Julia took the original "flyer" with the 5x7 color photo and made copies of it for her and returned the Original back to Beth. The phone # on the poster was Beth's local #. I don't know if she rented it or if it was a prepaid.

Beth told Julia that the Detective told her that Natalee was in a drug house and would reappear in a few days, that she should just go to the beach and drink pina coladas and wait. Beth established Natatee's character again as she had done the evening before on the phone and stated that Natalee was being held against her will and she had to get her before something happens to her.


Then the Missing Poster was made at ZEROX on June 2 and that is when Beth dragged Vadar to the Police Station. On June 3rd, Beth was repremanded by the ALE for standing on the Street Corner at Renaissance passing out Kidnapped posters to passing cars.

That is the extent of what I know about Posters and Flyers. 
 
 
 
 

[Lala'sMom]

DH DWELS IN SAVANETA  ::MonkeyHaHa::DANGER SM WALLS HAVE EARS.

Dirty Hand is Lorenzo?  He's also the 5th suspect?  How did you decide this?  What part of Shango's riddles led you to this conclusion.  How did you get the white pickup from a Shango riddle?  I have never seen mention of a white truck in any of Shango...I really need a magic decoder ring.

[Lala'sMom]

Tylergal
Is this what you meant about Absolam yesterday? WOW! 

http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/homemake/biblest-usurper.htm

[MumInOhio]

DH DWELS IN SAVANETA  ::MonkeyHaHa::DANGER SM WALLS HAVE EARS.

Dirty Hand is Lorenzo?  He's also the 5th suspect?  How did you decide this?  What part of Shango's riddles led you to this conclusion.  How did you get the white pickup from a Shango riddle?  I have never seen mention of a white truck in any of Shango...I really need a magic decoder ring.

LOL...I really am trying to leave, but YOU asked about a white pickup truck in reference to the VCB...Oh my...now I am confused!!!

And Anna...thanks...I was beginning to think Jossy was the news....great timing I agree...

 

[Lala'sMom]

Memphis
I can only say what I remember is both Simian and Checkme worked in places near each other.  There is a post somewhere that either Simian or Checkme asked if the other was working tonight.  I can't remember where it is right now, but I run across it on occasion. Depends on whom you think is Checkme and Simian.  If you think they work in ALE then they might have been at separate police stations...it is confusing.  It's not like here where you can actually quote a person so everyone will know who you are talking to.  I think Klaas said they had different IP or email addys.  She would know.  If you think Simian wasn't ALE but was being fed info from ALE in some way the entire picture changes.   I know where you stand on this one.

Anna
So you think maybe Caps was talking about the Birmingham News?  That would be a stretch...a really long one at that. 

[Lala'sMom]

DH DWELS IN SAVANETA  ::MonkeyHaHa::DANGER SM WALLS HAVE EARS.

Dirty Hand is Lorenzo?  He's also the 5th suspect?  How did you decide this?  What part of Shango's riddles led you to this conclusion.  How did you get the white pickup from a Shango riddle?  I have never seen mention of a white truck in any of Shango...I really need a magic decoder ring.

LOL...I really am trying to leave, but YOU asked about a white pickup truck in reference to the VCB...Oh my...now I am confused!!!

And Anna...thanks...I was beginning to think Jossy was the news....great timing I agree...

 

As I understand it Caps said the road had been paved and mentioned a white pickup was there where he thinks Natalee is now...it's in here somewhere...I will have to hunt for it. 

[Lala'sMom]

TEXT ARE BEEING UPDATE

SHAKED THE WIRES, PRIKICHI SING......

NH IN NEW PALACE IN SAVANETA HOUSE WITH WHITE PICKUP
THE NEW PALACE HAVE NEW ASPHALTE ENTRANCE

COME AND GET MARY BUT BRING POSSE COMITATUS EXEMPT

Klaasend:, LALA: ZIPPO
 

This is the reason for my question...I could not figure out how this post came from a Shango riddle.  I guess I did ask about it...I am lost now. LOL

[MumInOhio]

Confused again...Beth said she made them the day before, the 31st, with a picture from Natalee's camera....had to be in Aruba...right?

[MumInOhio]

TEXT ARE BEEING UPDATE

SHAKED THE WIRES, PRIKICHI SING......

NH IN NEW PALACE IN SAVANETA HOUSE WITH WHITE PICKUP
THE NEW PALACE HAVE NEW ASPHALTE ENTRANCE

COME AND GET MARY BUT BRING POSSE COMITATUS EXEMPT

Klaasend:, LALA: ZIPPO
 

This is the reason for my question...I could not figure out how this post came from a Shango riddle.  I guess I did ask about it...I am lost now. LOL

Maybe it didn't....or if it did Caps will explain....

[Lala'sMom]

CORRECTION!!!!

It was Shockthemonkey (whom Caps claims is Aruba Top Prosecutor) that asks Simian if he is working...Sorry, my brain is fried after this week. 

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
Sim, you working tonight?

[Lala'sMom]

Please disregard my last NEWS reference...I am trying to multi task and read it all wrong...sorry Anna.

[MumInOhio]

CORRECTION!!!!

It was Shockthemonkey (whom Caps claims is Aruba Top Prosecutor) that asks Simian if he is working...Sorry, my brain is fried after this week. 

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
Sim, you working tonight?

So...Vanessa knows where Sim works? And then what Caps said would make sense, if Sim is ALE, right?

[jackb]

Caps....interesting concept that Mother Holland is Eden.....here's me going with that maybe it was the truth...

Lala's....remember the early rumors that Val left and came here....often wonder why he was questioned just 3 weeks before this last lot of arrests....and then there are two comments by Joran...one being....'Val is the one I want to speak to' and the other, I think on Joran's release - something about how 'grateful he is to Val'. Paulus never mentions Val, only going home to pick up Sebastion that night. He also tells about them going to school. So are we to believe that they were never in Holland with Anita? Remember the bathtub....

2NJs...I just saw that picture...thanks, I will go back and take another look...also there are 2 Jolly Pirate sites, one has 435 pics, and I didn't have time to go through them

Memphis....legal checkmate could be what Caps is referring to, or that over there you cannot testify against a family member, or neither of these. If it was the 'family' thing I wonder which son he would not want to testify against!

COLUMBO...are you 'trying' to tell me that there there is a connection between Aruba and St. Maarten or is it just the same MO? By the way,I believe Natalee was targeted, and that Joran is a pimp, but who is the #1 pimp?

He needs to tell the truth....

The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.
The lamb is a scapegoat.

Elder could be elder son (brother.)  Is Val, if he was in fact home, complicit in some way?  Was Anita really gone?  Does anyone know for sure?  First word was little brother home (younger than Joran would be called little brother.)  If anyone would be gone on a trip with his mom, it would seem like the baby brother.    Elder could be parent (s):  Elder could be a fallen church elder.

Judge: Is not a law clerk.  Now Rick Smid or Wit could easily fit the bill.  Have they fallen.  They keep releasing the suspects.  Who on the panel is releasing?  This Wit dude seemed awfully close to be a guest of Vandersloot.  When did he "pop" in.  I am not to hep on Smid or Wit.

Val is an expert at scuba diving from what I gather.  Palus would use any and everyone to keep his sorry but out of trouble.  Koen and G Cromvroit worked at Red Sail.  Koen worked on the Pirate (tourist attract.) ship.  They probably had more than one job doing fun jobs since they got to meet girls, have fun and get paid for it.  G. Cromvroit also worked beach patrol on some days and business security some days.  I am sure he was a good tax write-off being an employee and part of the family as well.  He had access to all the frills of security:  the vehicle, guns, badge, authority, and this would enable him to threaten arrest with the police backing.  He probably played a pretty dirty hand all the way around since there are pictures of him blowing a small dubie and looking quite handsome and non-threatening out of uniform.  He is the best looking of all those kids and would have little trouble scoring women, but he was apparently a bit obnoxious to NH as he slapped her on the rump.  Joran also either hit at NH or some scuffle started over his being obnoxious to her as well.  It would not be too out of reach to think they all got together to "teach her a lesson."   

[Lala'sMom]

Maybe Shock is Aruba Top Prosecutor?  Now my question is who is Capslock?

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:24 pm
kristin .. i can not comment. But I told you two more arrests.

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:27 pm
The one with the longest legs begs …

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:29 pm
have you noticed you haven’t seen Mrs. Twitty lately? The last time you did, did you notice her sorrow? That should answer your question Kristin.

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:40 pm
Yes, something bad did happened. But it was an accident, it wasn’t meant to happen … as it did not happen on the beach as assumed, rather, it was in a house.

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
A substance was given to victim without knowledge. Substance served purpose … victim came to … suspect panics .. in an attempt to quiet victim, “something bad happens”

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:52 pm
Lily we are working 24 hrs to bring this to a resolution.

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:59 pm
No that’s not what it means Kristin. Premeditated requires planning. This was an accident perpetuated by a mallace act. It’s what happened after, that was premeditated …

[MumInOhio]

Lala's...do you need an edit button?

And if you're confused, how do you think I feel.....

[Lala'sMom]

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 11:04 pm
New news comes to those who wait … Be patient!

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 11:12 pm
Tomorrow, we’re searching the waters

June 25th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
I am on the island and am involved in the matter (which I can not disclose how I am involved). I am blogging to keep you informed as this case has captured the world.

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 11:21 pm
Only doing my job. But thank you guys anyway.

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 11:25 pm
You will wake up with news tomorrow morning … can’t elaborate, so please don’t ask.

[Lala'sMom]

Lala's...do you need an edit button?

And if you're confused, how do you think I feel.....

Yes, I need an edit button and an eject button...some days I need to remove myself from the place. LOL

[MumInOhio]

  when you say it like that!

[Lala'sMom]

Jack
You have me confused on this "elder" thing now...are you talking about a brother older than Joran?  TIA