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« Reply #1580 on: January 31, 2008, 07:27:52 AM »

Thanks for all the info on Vadir.....Tamiskosmom had posted a week or so about him and IIRC she said June 2nd. I had menat to go back and ask her about him and the page numbers from Beth's book.

Theodore/Vadir van Loon....LOL
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« Reply #1581 on: January 31, 2008, 08:48:32 AM »

Just moving things around...

From Capslockwizard:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm ******* NAT STORY ******
Every tribe has bad Indians (………..)
Every fort has bad cowboys (Bad FBI or DEA)
If sirens sing a poison song, all will get sick
Arawaks (Reporter) and cowboys (Bad FBI) working well
Arawaks (Reporter) fear wrath of cowboys (BETH) for DirtyHand
But babylonians (The Sloot’s) live in teepees (Police Force) too.
If the house of babylon (The Dutch Court) is to remain erect,
it must protect the babylonians (The Sloot’s) who have
lived in teepees (Police Force), among the arawaks, (Aruba Law Enforccement) for a long time.
Babylon (Sloot) will agree to a sacrifice of newer
teepee (New Police Force) dwellers (Home)to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public
Dirtyhand scares arawaks (Aruba Law Enforccement) too
the sacrifice (Natalee) will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods (…..) and cowboys (Bad FBI or DEA)
cowboys (Beth)will leave without loot (Natalee)
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« Reply #1582 on: January 31, 2008, 09:38:43 AM »

Lala's...found a better one.....

Originally Posted by surrie
A man by the name of DINESH DJOEGAN aka MAIKEL JUDAN was a bouncer for a bar called Choose-A-Name.
Think about this, and maybe I doing a bit of stretching here but look below:

dineSH
djOeGAN

SHANGO
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« Reply #1583 on: January 31, 2008, 09:43:36 AM »

in light of some of CAP'S posts and loesge......was just thinking-what political leader held more concentrated power than any other during the 90's?

Monica Lewinsky......

But the Arawak king controls destiny of all. The Arawak king has DirtyHands and DirtyFeet. If he is to reign anew, he cannot be soiled more.
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Of whom is the young Babylonian afraid?
Why won’t he talk?


Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:11 am
All the Arawaks know the Maze which plays the poison songs


Someone who has been in on this since he was young Arawak (he already got his hands dirty--money or financial part of the organization, and feet dirty--part of the delivery system of the organization).  We have to do what it takes to keep his name clear so no one knows the King is involved in this--IOW, publicly distance him from the actual day to day goings on.  If the king goes down, we all go down.
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« Reply #1584 on: January 31, 2008, 09:54:31 AM »

I am assuming that this is the Ritz, our buddy again....interesting...Eden

Found an Anita Hugen signed the petition....hmmm

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?t=7041

Doing much better than I can, Bearlyhere.....I'm so confused...LOL
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« Reply #1585 on: January 31, 2008, 10:05:12 AM »

Thanks for finding this for me Mum.  Shango readers...some light reading this morning. (Please keep in mind that some of the links and info may be unavailable now.)

..from webslueths


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Aruba Propaganda

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Aruba has a website for all to see about how concerned they have been
about Natalee's dissapearance from day 1. Anyone who has read Dave
Holloway's book knows this is untrue. Anyone who has followed the case
knows this is untrue. Aruba government at this very moment is speaking
of how much money, time and effort they have spent on Natalee, like
they are doing the Holloways and the Twittys a favor, and the Arubans
are also saying that the locals are holding vigils and are very
concerned for our missing girl. More than they(Arubans) have ever done
for anyone ever come up missing on their island.

Go to the website www.arubatruth.com


It will enrage and sicken you. It did me.

It talks of how safe of the island is.HA!

I have also uncovered a bizzare and disturbing event that just took
place on the island recently.

A man by the name of DINESH DJOEGAN aka MAIKEL JUDAN was a bouncer for
a bar called Choose-A-Name. The press or someone tried to discredit his
reputation saying that he had a seedy past and may have some enemies
because of his profession. His body was found just recently ON FIRE in
the opening of a heart shaped cave on the island. His hands were nailed
to boards, his penis was sliced off and both of his legs were severed
off. Then his body was set on fire. The only way to identify Dinesh was
because of the TATTOOS he had on his body. Didn't hear to much about
that from Aruba. Smells of drug cartel to me.
Think about this, and maybe I doing a bit of stretching here but look
below:

dineSH
djOeGAN

SHANGO
I have tried to e-mail Aruba 's site along with several other people
and all my e-mails were returned due to an "error". Hey, anything's
possible-especially with this case.
If anyone has any thoughts post them. I have an idea of what happened
to Natalee. I have done extensive research online. I have read Dave's
online Evidentiary Review and the information that goes along with it-
not to mention Shango's riddle in conjuction with the entire case and
knowledge that is out there to look at. I am sure there is much more
that the public does not know, so not to compromise the case.
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« Reply #1586 on: January 31, 2008, 10:08:44 AM »

Vadir van Loon - yes he was mentioned in Beth's book.  She spoke to him.  He was questioned in the case early on.





Do we know who this is in the white shirt, in the top picture, reflected in the vehicle?
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« Reply #1587 on: January 31, 2008, 10:12:12 AM »

Actually MUM I would like to post one particular comment from that link...it is a very interesting post and some may not read it...



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Default Re: a petition for the Nature Organization Against Arashi Hotel
SHERRY, I posted the below a while ago and have had about 15 personal phone calls from locals on it. everyone is concerned and this is the time to unite the varios BB's in their poll taking and go to ownership and ask them to calculate how many persons sign into their or browse through their sites daily, weekly, monthly etc. You and beach boy are in the positions to do it as Aruba Vacationers and not locals with posible "agendas" If you feel that the below is not appropriate, please feel very free to erase it.
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First of all,

Beach Boy - Allow me to thank you for your vigilance on these kinds of things and for keeping us aware of what is at stake.

I am going to get on my soap box and promise to take it away when I am done.

If a Garden Of Eden does exist - and I think it does - then I hope no-one finds it. It is in our nature to spread the word about all things good and (with the very best intentions) invite all that will listen to go to our respective wonder Gardens. It is also in our nature to invite people that are like us to these Gardens and (as sure as I write this) those invitees will inturn also invite others.

Is it possible that the huge allegiance that so many people have to this pebble in the Caribbean is causing its' own demise? Maybe it is and if that is the case, then is the logical solution for us to not love comming here but instead to hate vacationing on Aruba - year after loyal year? NAAHHH. Don't think so. And as long as loving this little Garden in the Caribbean exists, then more space will be needed for those that arrive all "wide-eyed" to see if what they were told is true - and if it is - to enjoy it and .... go home and tell others.

I have vacationed in other places that enjoyed immense popularity as well. How they react to this popularity seems to fall into categories - but mostly tied into geography and not development laws. Where and when there is plenty of space to grow sideways and spread out, they do - Miami and Orlando come to mind. Yet, where space (geography) does not allow for spreading out sideways, (and here Key West comes to mind) the construction stops and the quality of service as well as other client oriented issues is the focus. I used to go to Cherokee North Carolina to Trout fish in a place called "Big Cove. Lovely mountains, streams, fish and peacefullness. Then along came gambling and tax-free cigarettes and land was cleared (sideways) and significant portions of reservation land mountains have been flattened to accomodate what?? Cigarette sales? Casinos? Wrong - To accomodate newly found money. Large and wonderous sections of land have been ruined for the sake of - money. Think about it and ask if we (all of us) are any different.

The major challenge will not be environmental - nope - it will be humanity. The environment will do the suffering but the problem will be humanity. You see, for every one of the rooms that is constructed, there is a certain amount of humanity that his needed to take care of it. I used to know the ratio but no longer recall it. That said, every guest room needs to have XXX persons working in varios aspects of the resort to give the service expected. If service becomes the standard to measure with - and it should be - then the obvios, but not always correct assumption will be, we need more people NOW!! And if we follow that need then...

RESULT =
More rooms
More staffing needed
More residential units needed
More transportation needed
More infrastructure needed
More guests needed
More airlines to bring them needed
More taxis needed
More rental cars needed
More food
More consumption at all levels and I mean all.

Less what? Something gets sacrificed. What is it?
Less personal privacy for those living here
Less care given to the environment (what will be left of it)
Less history taught and kept because history is being made (that is not a play on words)

That is my take on all of this new construction on the beaches or elsewhere. That said, there are some responsible projects being built but these are mostly for long term housing.
I am not foolish enough to think that this is one of those situations where single voices or one or two politicos or conservation groups will be heard. NOPE! The single voice is lost in the wind and the politic is seen as self serving - unless there are politicos that serve the community and ... if there are, send them here when you have used them up. You see - dear reader and I presume Aruba fanatic - lover - and he who has a huge allegiance to our island, the voice that will be heard is that of the masses.

As an example and i hope this is not misunderstood:
Americans are tremendous when it comes to getting things done.
One child is lost (this is a horrid thing)
All networks are mobilized
Shows dedicated to the topic
Books written
and then
Aruba lovers come to the rescue and
Write supportive letters
Make their voices heard
The Aruba lovers support, support, support and then support some more. Afterall, this is their favorite island, or is it Eden?

So why - I ask myself - would this not be one of those occasions where the tourists, visitors and Aruba lover should and would not come to the rescue? - Why I wonder. You could you know.

Simply think about the following:

YOU OUT-NUMBER US (by many many millions) AND YOUR VOICE IS THUNDEROUS

Especially - when you are saving Eden.

While it is so very easy to find fault and danger, sometimes it is even easier to find the good and use it as an example. Here I speak of BUCUTI and the management phylosophies that motivate all that happens there. No high rises needed to give tremendous accomodations and impecable service. No "White Suited" bellman at the entrance to make sure that everyone and I mean EVERYONE says "Hello - how are you? More importantly, you can sit in the natural breeze - as opposed to that of a massive and monsterous airconditioned areas. Prices aren't cheap and the people love paying for what they get. No bare bones services but instead a dedication to pampering the guest. Maybe that is the way we should look at things.

OK OK OK --Can someone give me a hand with moving this soap-box? It's heavy.

be well
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« Reply #1588 on: January 31, 2008, 10:13:56 AM »

Encouraging everyone to read that link Mum posted...there will be some you will recognize there. 
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« Reply #1589 on: January 31, 2008, 10:21:15 AM »

Encouraging everyone to read that link Mum posted...there will be some you will recognize there. 


LOL ...still reading it myself...wish I could find that other post of his about the eggs in one basket....maybe it's here and I didn't get to it yet...
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« Reply #1590 on: January 31, 2008, 10:28:34 AM »

I am assuming that this is the Ritz, our buddy again....interesting...Eden

Found an Anita Hugen signed the petition....hmmm

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?t=7041

Doing much better than I can, Bearlyhere.....I'm so confused...LOL

Just thoughts I am having after reading.  I am also confused.  I admire those that have been trying to figure this out.
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« Reply #1591 on: January 31, 2008, 10:29:02 AM »

Vadir van Loon - yes he was mentioned in Beth's book.  She spoke to him.  He was questioned in the case early on.





Do we know who this is in the white shirt, in the top picture, reflected in the vehicle?


The geek guy took away my magnifier and I have to wait until tonight or tomorrow for my D to find it for me....sorry....computer illiterate here....LOL
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« Reply #1592 on: January 31, 2008, 10:44:32 AM »

Since Julia took the photo ( with a camera that needed batteries, I might add) maybe it's a sign that says "How's my driving, Julia"?  OK.  I will behave, I promise. 
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« Reply #1593 on: January 31, 2008, 10:54:40 AM »

Let's talk a little Merian Ernest today...

Klaas
Would you mind posting this photo in here so we can look at it some more...I think Mum has been right about the 5th suspect for a while now. She has laid out her theory in a logical manner and I think Freddy almost fits the criteria to be the 5th suspect. TIA


Merian Ernest Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: Who framed who?
Take a close look at the famous picture.

Deepak, Joran and Satish at C&C. Whose hand is on Satish's shoulder? Take another look.
A really good look.

It can never be the hand of any of the three.

Merian Ernest Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject: The mysterious hand...
See the hand. On the infamous picture in C&C. The boy in the middle and the Hindus on each
side.

Whose hand is on the shoulder of the Hindu on he left? Somebody is missing on this picture.
Maybe somebody was placed on this picture?

It seems more people are vanishing in this case.
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« Reply #1594 on: January 31, 2008, 10:56:51 AM »

Notice that Merian Ernst refers to the Kalpoes as "Hindu".  Where have we seen this before? 
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« Reply #1595 on: January 31, 2008, 11:00:14 AM »

Mum??? You still with me here?
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« Reply #1596 on: January 31, 2008, 11:02:45 AM »

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: They call him bifrons...
Find Aruba. Find the Haystack. Find Santa Marta. Trace with your finger what the Antenna
has spoken about.

Unleash the dogs. Inch by inch...grid by grid.


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« Reply #1597 on: January 31, 2008, 11:07:57 AM »

Breaking news on Holloway case.  Peter DeVries has new info out of Holland.   Chief prosecutor says it may resolve how Natalee Holloway died. 

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« Reply #1598 on: January 31, 2008, 05:20:24 PM »

Lalas here are both pics:




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« Reply #1599 on: January 31, 2008, 07:05:10 PM »

Just moving things around...

From Capslockwizard:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm ******* NAT STORY ******
Every tribe has bad Indians (………..)
Every fort has bad cowboys (Bad FBI or DEA)
If sirens sing a poison song, all will get sick
Arawaks (Reporter) and cowboys (Bad FBI) working well
Arawaks (Reporter) fear wrath of cowboys (BETH) for DirtyHand
But babylonians (The Sloot’s) live in teepees (Police Force) too.
If the house of babylon (The Dutch Court) is to remain erect,
it must protect the babylonians (The Sloot’s) who have
lived in teepees (Police Force), among the arawaks, (Aruba Law Enforccement) for a long time.
Babylon (Sloot) will agree to a sacrifice of newer
teepee (New Police Force) dwellers (Home)to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public
Dirtyhand scares arawaks (Aruba Law Enforccement) too
the sacrifice (Natalee) will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods (…..) and cowboys (Bad FBI or DEA)
cowboys (Beth)will leave without loot (Natalee)


Thanks for bringing this over, Lalas.
Is this all there is?
Some name or identity changes but still comes back to what everyone has believed since almost day one.
I am hoping there is more to come with details which will solve the puzzle.
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