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« Reply #2000 on: February 15, 2008, 08:52:02 PM »

his reach is long.......the long arm.....of the law
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« Reply #2001 on: February 15, 2008, 08:53:03 PM »

why......I wonder if he's ever been behind the wheel of a real polis car......if so, where were the polis? "playing?"
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« Reply #2002 on: February 15, 2008, 08:53:23 PM »

 
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« Reply #2003 on: February 15, 2008, 08:59:13 PM »

Wow, LaLa'sMom...I've never seen this....

A few things really jumped out at me
Simian  June 2005
The Babylonians think she’s on her way to Panama with the help of the Carib.


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« Reply #2004 on: February 15, 2008, 09:07:14 PM »

This post hit hardest.....

# subdude on June 30th, 2005 2:16 am

DH = Police Chief
Arawak King = Prime Minister
Babylonians = Dutch
Lions = drug/prostitution/slavery cartel

Shango says that the chief, PM and Lions are running durgs, prostitutes and sex slaves and that teh VDSs and Kalpoes are in on it as well. One big happy family of scum

The Chief is the weakest link, the most easy to expose. VDSs and Kalpoes are talking to prosecutors. But the PM and Chief will say that they can not investigate the allegations because their hands are tied by Dutch law. This is one good way to check Shango’s veracity.

Raise hell about why Chief is resigning. Raise hell about why no one will look into allegations of drugs,hookers,sex slaves and see if we get some excuse from the PM about how its up to the Dutch to conduct the investigation. If you hear something along these lines, Shango’s Olorum is credible.

Federal Bureau, can you apply on pressure? Problem is investigation of corruption into Aruban gov’t has to be conducted by Dutch, most likely. Will Dutch do it?

International pressure might help, or Dutch government might tell the world to go to hell.

Make noise on this board for starters.



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« Reply #2005 on: February 15, 2008, 09:23:03 PM »

Seems like Shango knew in June about the Natural Bridge collapse in Sept.
A sign of the "Fall of Babylon"?
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« Reply #2006 on: February 15, 2008, 09:54:12 PM »

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 9:59 pm
DirtyHand can bring down all houses

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:56 pm
Shango is the god of justice
alive in many forms
he who speaks through Oxum through lightning
and himself through thunder
father of the violent dance
diviner of secrets of the seven levels of inferno (Tower)
bound to truth even as it burns
so that justice may be brought.

http://www.super-aruba-discount-hotels.com/discounts/aruba/wyndham-aruba-resort-and-casino-hotel/


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« Reply #2007 on: February 15, 2008, 10:33:17 PM »

I knew someone would be interested.
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« Reply #2008 on: February 15, 2008, 10:53:34 PM »

Were there any other posters that seemed to "know something"?

Shango....FL
Subdude..Miami
Robalo33...NE FL
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« Reply #2009 on: February 15, 2008, 11:22:14 PM »

Were there any other posters that seemed to "know something"?

Shango....FL
Subdude..Miami
Robalo33...NE FL

Subdude was not Miami
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« Reply #2010 on: February 16, 2008, 01:40:23 AM »

Lala: Klaasend:

I need a List of all Lawyers in Aruba and that belong to the Lions club and that is a advisor to both the New Prime Minister and the one that left office as a Prime Minister.

This is What I now Believe what has happend by putting all the bits and peaces together.

This is my believe.

From Carlos and Charley, kalpoe's drop Joran and Natalee at the Holiday Inn.
Kalpoe's went home and hop on internet and chat.
 
From the Holiday in, someone (The DRIVER) brought them to the Whitehouse for Sex party.
Paul was also already there and waiting her.
 
When she died, the group when to the Park Apartment, Joran called Kalpoe's to meet him at The Park Apartment.
 
At he the Park Apartment Paul Instructed them what to say the next day. Paul was the one that couch them on what to say when authority comes to asked for them and to give statement on what happens to Natalee. The Kalpoe's were waiting at the Park Apartment for Natalee to returns but she never did. Kalpoe's never saw where Joran and (the Driver) dump the Body. they where not there.
 
While they were waiting for Natalee to return, Joran and (the DRIVER) went to search for a place to dump the body.
 
It was getting late around 3:35 and Joran and (the DRIVER) the driver decided to dump the body in one of the murky pool pond.
 
The DRIVER drop Joran with the body closeby to the pond.
The DRIVER decided to split when Joran was walking in the mud to reach the deep end of the murkey pool. When Joran disposed of the body, he walk back from the pond but lost the right foot shoe in the mud in the process.
 
When Joran came to the edge of the pond, he was alone, He call his dad to pick him up, but Paul did not know where Joran was.
 
The Kalpoe's went to look also for Joran but could not find him. and so was Paul.
 
Paul thought that Joran was at the CMB Bank but there is always a security guard at that place.
If he has check the Aruba Bank ATM, He would have notice the other security guard at that place also.
So Paul pretended to use The ATM Machine while Joran continue walking towards the McDonalds. on the secondary road.
 
Joran continue walking towards Mcdonald's and pass in front of the witness house.
The witness states that The Choller his body was cover all in mud from the waste down and also he siad he was missing the RIGHT FOOT Shoe. He said the Choller was walking towards Mcdonald.
 
Near McDonald Paul pict up his son who was walking towards the McDonalds. He picked him up and brought him home.
 
and so the next day, the whole story was a lie and cover-up till yesterday.
 
The Mystery Driver is a Lawyer according to Shango.
 
Shango say: the Fallen Judge and DirtyHand are of the same Hand. (They are of the same type either a Judge or a Lawyer)
 
So Dirtyhand is the DRIVER and he is either a Judge or a Lawyer that is eihter in the Lions CLub and is a cordinator or consultant that speak with both the Prime Minister and Henny Eman.
 
The Caps.

Was there a Judge or someone living on Paul property?


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« Reply #2011 on: February 16, 2008, 06:51:50 AM »

Good Morning...I posted this the other day in the main thread...as this is what I thought of when JQK said Natalee's body was not recoverable at this time...



The Natural Bridge – is located on the north east coast. It’s called the Natural Bridge
because it rises 25 feet above the sea and spans a hundred feet of rock-strewn waters carved out of solid coral by centuries of relentless pounding by the  Atlantic surf.  Collapsed 9-2-05

Satish…6/30 PV


On your question if I have ever been to the "Natural Bridge", I will answer yes. I have been on the North side of Aruba but I have never swum there.


Lala's...Thanks...I have to reread as I only scanned last night....



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« Reply #2012 on: February 16, 2008, 07:08:33 AM »

COLUMBO...I need the video...I think there was 3 ...of the surprise trip that Greta and Beth made to Aruba last year.

Remember Debbie, the make up artist...she opened a door into an apartment..they were saying it looked like someone lived there.

I remember Greta on the balcony and making a point of saying they were staying in a different hotel than they normally did...

Guess which hotel.....

fran09-30-2007, 12:02 PM
Apparently from Greta's blog, they had a hardtime getting into the country. They stayed at the Westin.They also visited C&C's? I wonder why?

The last place Natalee was seen alive by anyone other than the three :liar: suspects, was C&C. Therefore, IMO, it would make sense that Greta and Beth would visit there when doing a segment about the release of Beth's book.

JMHO
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Was Greta trying to tell us something?
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« Reply #2013 on: February 16, 2008, 11:11:56 AM »

LaLa:
How come you did not sent the whole lis of converstation when I asked you before.

I have read not the Whole converation let me say this

Shango on June 30th, 2005 2:31 am

Watcher opened a window looking onto babylon at 2:29.

He holds the key to the ONLY door which opens the door to the lions den

The Wather is the Bank Security gaurd.

The other thing is that shango says he can see from afar.

I think shango is the Helicoper Pilot that fly the Police helicopter over Aruba. They have a heavy light beam to search at Nignt and can see in the Night


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« Reply #2014 on: February 16, 2008, 11:16:54 AM »

You can not see the Hidden maze from plain view.

I do not own a Helicopter to hover over the Island ....So I use Google Earth to hover over dark places.

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« Reply #2015 on: February 16, 2008, 11:38:12 AM »

LaLa:
How come you did not sent the whole lis of converstation when I asked you before.

I have read not the Whole converation let me say this

Shango on June 30th, 2005 2:31 am

Watcher opened a window looking onto babylon at 2:29.

He holds the key to the ONLY door which opens the door to the lions den

The Wather is the Bank Security gaurd.

The other thing is that shango says he can see from afar.

I think shango is the Helicoper Pilot that fly the Police helicopter over Aruba. They have a heavy light beam to search at Nignt and can see in the Night


The CAPS



I didn't have it before.  What I gave you was the link to what SM had at the time.  Some of these posts are questionable as to if they are the genuine thing.  It was just yesterday when VMS posted something that I remembered where they were.  I was not trying to mislead you at all...I had forgotten about these.  They are not listed in my link I sent you the first time.  Actually, there are other posts scattered all over the internet by both Simian and Shango that I can't get to now. I had them on my first computer before the first time I was hacked.  I can't get them back...I have tried.  I have been spending lots of time trying to find them again for you.

BTW Shango clearly indicates that Dirty Hand is in the ALE or government.  Does Aruba consider lawyers part of the government down there?
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« Reply #2016 on: February 16, 2008, 11:45:46 AM »

LaLa:
How come you did not sent the whole lis of converstation when I asked you before.

I have read not the Whole converation let me say this

Shango on June 30th, 2005 2:31 am

Watcher opened a window looking onto babylon at 2:29.

He holds the key to the ONLY door which opens the door to the lions den

The Wather is the Bank Security gaurd.

The other thing is that shango says he can see from afar.

I think shango is the Helicoper Pilot that fly the Police helicopter over Aruba. They have a heavy light beam to search at Nignt and can see in the Night


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Here is Watcher's 2:29 AM post:

# watcher on June 30th, 2005 2:29 am

I think Subdude is on the right track about the media putting pressure on WHY the polis chief is leaving.


Shango replies to this post here:

Shango on June 30th, 2005 2:31 am

Watcher opened a window looking onto babylon at 2:29.



Again it is about the polis chief....and only the polis chief....it is about Dirty Hand.  Am I the only person on here that sees this?   Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #2017 on: February 16, 2008, 12:00:37 PM »

Lala: Klaasend:

I need a List of all Lawyers in Aruba and that belong to the Lions club and that is a advisor to both the New Prime Minister and the one that left office as a Prime Minister.

This is What I now Believe what has happend by putting all the bits and peaces together.

This is my believe.

From Carlos and Charley, kalpoe's drop Joran and Natalee at the Holiday Inn.
Kalpoe's went home and hop on internet and chat.
 
From the Holiday in, someone (The DRIVER) brought them to the Whitehouse for Sex party.
Paul was also already there and waiting her.
 
When she died, the group when to the Park Apartment, Joran called Kalpoe's to meet him at The Park Apartment.
 
At he the Park Apartment Paul Instructed them what to say the next day. Paul was the one that couch them on what to say when authority comes to asked for them and to give statement on what happens to Natalee. The Kalpoe's were waiting at the Park Apartment for Natalee to returns but she never did. Kalpoe's never saw where Joran and (the Driver) dump the Body. they where not there.
 
While they were waiting for Natalee to return, Joran and (the DRIVER) went to search for a place to dump the body.
 
It was getting late around 3:35 and Joran and (the DRIVER) the driver decided to dump the body in one of the murky pool pond.
 
The DRIVER drop Joran with the body closeby to the pond.
The DRIVER decided to split when Joran was walking in the mud to reach the deep end of the murkey pool. When Joran disposed of the body, he walk back from the pond but lost the right foot shoe in the mud in the process.
 
When Joran came to the edge of the pond, he was alone, He call his dad to pick him up, but Paul did not know where Joran was.
 
The Kalpoe's went to look also for Joran but could not find him. and so was Paul.
 
Paul thought that Joran was at the CMB Bank but there is always a security guard at that place.
If he has check the Aruba Bank ATM, He would have notice the other security guard at that place also.
So Paul pretended to use The ATM Machine while Joran continue walking towards the McDonalds. on the secondary road.
 
Joran continue walking towards Mcdonald's and pass in front of the witness house.
The witness states that The Choller his body was cover all in mud from the waste down and also he siad he was missing the RIGHT FOOT Shoe. He said the Choller was walking towards Mcdonald.
 
Near McDonald Paul pict up his son who was walking towards the McDonalds. He picked him up and brought him home.
 
and so the next day, the whole story was a lie and cover-up till yesterday.
 
The Mystery Driver is a Lawyer according to Shango.
 
Shango say: the Fallen Judge and DirtyHand are of the same Hand. (They are of the same type either a Judge or a Lawyer)
 
So Dirtyhand is the DRIVER and he is either a Judge or a Lawyer that is eihter in the Lions CLub and is a cordinator or consultant that speak with both the Prime Minister and Henny Eman.
 
The Caps.

Was there a Judge or someone living on Paul property?

Caps..I have been a little confused as to whether Judge Witt was there that weekend or the weekend of the search 6/15. He states it would have been a conflict of interest to allow the search as he was staying with Anita and Paulus.

I will have to find what I quoted, but it is not clear what he was referring to!

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« Reply #2018 on: February 16, 2008, 12:09:56 PM »

On one of my old hard drives I had saved a post from Shango about water or waters.  I found it on a yahoo site around August of 2005. I do not have any of that now either.  I have since tried to find it, but I can't.  If I had known what I do now...I would have made more copies of it. 

If we think in terms of Simian and Shango being the same person (just thinking here, I know Colombo has said this before) then we have to assume that they were being fed info from the same source.  Since I know the IP's are in different locations that might change things...but...I also know that Aruban IP's can also show up as being in the USA.  Simian was plain spoken to an extent (too bad he didn't speak plainly about that darn 5th suspect) and Shango wanted to entice us all with riddles and rhymes.  Some of the early posters (I mean within the first 30 days or so) also began to think they were the same person. 

When you think of Simian...you must also think of Merian Ernst.  Their writing style and veiled references to each other is unmistakable.  They were either the very same person or were well known to each other.  You have to read them together even though they posted at different times...they are most likley one and the same person or persons. 

So is Shango the same person as Simian and Merian?  Did Shango know Shock and Checkme or was it the other way around?  Were they playing off each other or trying to one up each other...I say they were competing for the bloggers attentions at the time.  It could be true that Shango had no real knowledge of anything...that he was as Michoo, the poster, said.  Just a college student with time on his hands.  For a student he sure knew some things that were happening on the island at the time, didn't he?
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« Reply #2019 on: February 16, 2008, 12:12:09 PM »

LaLa:
How come you did not sent the whole lis of converstation when I asked you before.

I have read not the Whole converation let me say this

Shango on June 30th, 2005 2:31 am

Watcher opened a window looking onto babylon at 2:29.

He holds the key to the ONLY door which opens the door to the lions den

The Wather is the Bank Security gaurd.

The other thing is that shango says he can see from afar.

I think shango is the Helicoper Pilot that fly the Police helicopter over Aruba. They have a heavy light beam to search at Nignt and can see in the Night


The CAPS



I didn't have it before.  What I gave you was the link to what SM had at the time.  Some of these posts are questionable as to if they are the genuine thing.  It was just yesterday when VMS posted something that I remembered where they were.  I was not trying to mislead you at all...I had forgotten about these.  They are not listed in my link I sent you the first time.  Actually, there are other posts scattered all over the internet by both Simian and Shango that I can't get to now. I had them on my first computer before the first time I was hacked.  I can't get them back...I have tried.  I have been spending lots of time trying to find them again for you.

BTW Shango clearly indicates that Dirty Hand is in the ALE or government.  Does Aruba consider lawyers part of the government down there?

Yes the government has his own set of lawyers and only work for the Government.

The Lawyers also represents a group that work hand in hand with the OM.


I was wondering which lawyer was on the Roll that night to handel the cases.

On the Roll means (schedule) How I know this is that my uncle is a Lawyer and He always talk abaout to have Roll duty.

It means that he is on the evening list to handel cases comming in that night. it can also be a sub prosecuter.


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