SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[MumInOhio]

wow........."whole 7th floor"

LOL...you are so NOT funny...I can't watch these now as DH is sleeping and I don't recall that much about them.

MORE CLUES PLEASE!!!!!!

[COLOMBO]

sirens singing a poison song......all will get sick

[COLOMBO]

DH walks with the Babylonians

will soon leave

St Maarten?

[COLOMBO]

really need to know the passages well

[COLOMBO]

great house (overlooking babylon) will tumble down, crush teepees

DH holds key to unlocking unknown doors

[JuJu]

geez...been working too many hours to count and haven't been here for a while.....last time I was here there was maybe 40 pages on this thread........hey Lala's got any cliff notes?   

[COLOMBO]

Chata:

watch those clips?

[Lala'sMom]

Here is the link for Beth and Greta's trip to Aruba...I haven't had a chance to watch them again. Scroll to Oct 1st.

     http://gretawire.foxnews.com/tag/debi-the-make-up-artist/page/2/




   

That was extensively discussed on the NAH thread at the time...in fact, I was even called on the phone to be sure I was aware of her comment.  7th level of inferno and all.

[Lala'sMom]

geez...been working too many hours to count and haven't been here for a while.....last time I was here there was maybe 40 pages on this thread........hey Lala's got any cliff notes?   

We are pretty much right where you left off..with a little confusion thrown in for good measure. LOL  Why don't you read a few pages starting around 52 and then skip up to around page 100.  That should help a little...sorta...kinda...maybe. 

[Debra]

Here is the link for Beth and Greta's trip to Aruba...I haven't had a chance to watch them again. Scroll to Oct 1st.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/tag/debi-the-make-up-artist/page/2/

This is the Marriott Hotel
There is nothing like "intuition"!

Greta, Beth & crew on 5th floor
This attractive woman alone on 7th floor ("Honeymoon Suites") ??

Same as Beth's "intuition" at the vds house.
She must have recognized Tiko's sounds and reacted.
The "Paulus waterworks" began....IMO.

In reference to Shango's "7 levels of inferno (hell)...she entered the maze"
Could the maze be all these hotels "7th floor"?

Marriott............Honeymoon Suites
Holiday Inn....... Posner had a suite on 7th floor
Allegro.............(1) Presidential Suite/Floors 7-8-9 Timeshare/suites
(Wyndham..........I think it has 14 floors)

   

[MumInOhio]

JuJu...if it helps we discussed Dirty Hand...Didn't you just ask about the second fellow Lala's?

Posted on the front page of SM: and Stolen from the main thread..

hoepelman wrote:


There were only two Dutchmen: v/d Sloot and Vocking. Vocking is the one that had all the connections to arrange things in Paul’s favor. He’s the one that probably came up with the security guards ploy, he’s the one that obtained a last minute suspension for the order to search the main v/d Sloot house, he’s the one that got the prison connection to smuggle Joran a phone, he was probably the one that gave Joran instructions on how to behave during interrogation, he’s the one that left Aruba quietly and everyone is slowly forgetting his role, as the key player trafficking influence.

There was an Aruban also, Police pokesperson Comemencia. At the initial stage of the investigation, he gave too many the press too many details to justify Paulu’s behaviour and actions, as if he was intentionally trying to steer negative opinions away from the v/d Sloots…very suspicious, since he was the Police Department spokesperson, and not the suspect’s family’s PR representative.

[Lala'sMom]

Here is the link for Beth and Greta's trip to Aruba...I haven't had a chance to watch them again. Scroll to Oct 1st.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/tag/debi-the-make-up-artist/page/2/

This is the Marriott Hotel
There is nothing like "intuition"!

Greta, Beth & crew on 5th floor
This attractive woman alone on 7th floor ("Honeymoon Suites") ??

Same as Beth's "intuition" at the vds house.
She must have recognized Tiko's sounds and reacted.
The "Paulus waterworks" began....IMO.

In reference to Shango's "7 levels of inferno (hell)...she entered the maze"
Could the maze be all these hotels "7th floor"?

Marriott............Honeymoon Suites
Holiday Inn....... Posner had a suite on 7th floor
Allegro.............(1) Presidential Suite/Floors 7-8-9 Timeshare/suites
(Wyndham..........I think it has 14 floors)

   

Remember all the floors have a seven in them...or something like that.

[Lala'sMom]

JuJu...if it helps we discussed Dirty Hand...Didn't you just ask about the second fellow Lala's?

Posted on the front page of SM: and Stolen from the main thread..

hoepelman wrote:


There were only two Dutchmen: v/d Sloot and Vocking. Vocking is the one that had all the connections to arrange things in Paul’s favor. He’s the one that probably came up with the security guards ploy, he’s the one that obtained a last minute suspension for the order to search the main v/d Sloot house, he’s the one that got the prison connection to smuggle Joran a phone, he was probably the one that gave Joran instructions on how to behave during interrogation, he’s the one that left Aruba quietly and everyone is slowly forgetting his role, as the key player trafficking influence.

There was an Aruban also, Police pokesperson Comemencia. At the initial stage of the investigation, he gave too many the press too many details to justify Paulu’s behaviour and actions, as if he was intentionally trying to steer negative opinions away from the v/d Sloots…very suspicious, since he was the Police Department spokesperson, and not the suspect’s family’s PR representative.

Actually King was also suspected of being dirty hand. A poster that I gave hard time here once made the speculation.  I have to admit it is very possible.  Kermit said that Bernadina is the Chief of Police...there is certainly a problem in the terminology translation as to who is the police chief or the police commissioner. Depends on what news source you read as to how they use the term.

Comemencia is the person I referred to as Papi the Butterfly...from Merian Ernst.

[MumInOhio]

Natalee's room was #7114 - ground floor - was the next floor #7214?

[Lala'sMom]

Look at it this way...people in positions to help Paulus...Jan van der Straten, Ben King (Vocking), Rudy Croes, Dennis Jacobs, Ronnie Bernadina. Then let's not forget those others...Jean Akers...Karen Jansen...Nelson Oduber...and the list goes on.  Seems there was indeed a confession of some kind and when Paulus was told Joran confessed the cover up began...it went from one hand to another until so many were involved that it had to be covered up in order to "maintain the integrity of the great house" sotospeak.

[MumInOhio]

JuJu...if it helps we discussed Dirty Hand...Didn't you just ask about the second fellow Lala's?

Posted on the front page of SM: and Stolen from the main thread..

hoepelman wrote:


There were only two Dutchmen: v/d Sloot and Vocking. Vocking is the one that had all the connections to arrange things in Paul’s favor. He’s the one that probably came up with the security guards ploy, he’s the one that obtained a last minute suspension for the order to search the main v/d Sloot house, he’s the one that got the prison connection to smuggle Joran a phone, he was probably the one that gave Joran instructions on how to behave during interrogation, he’s the one that left Aruba quietly and everyone is slowly forgetting his role, as the key player trafficking influence.

There was an Aruban also, Police pokesperson Comemencia. At the initial stage of the investigation, he gave too many the press too many details to justify Paulu’s behaviour and actions, as if he was intentionally trying to steer negative opinions away from the v/d Sloots…very suspicious, since he was the Police Department spokesperson, and not the suspect’s family’s PR representative.

Actually King was also suspected of being dirty hand. A poster that I gave hard time here once made the speculation.  I have to admit it is very possible.  Kermit said that Bernadina is the Chief of Police...there is certainly a problem in the terminology translation as to who is the police chief or the police commissioner. Depends on what news source you read as to how they use the term.

Comemencia is the person I referred to as Papi the Butterfly...from Merian Ernst.

Yes...I have seen a few of his posts...many dirty hands....

I have been thinking about van der Straten and Jossy saying he is a good man.

Well if Jossy was asked 'What about van der Straten?'  He could answer that he was a good man? As in a good guy...I don't remember the question that was posed to Jossy regarding him and KJ.....I just think he's Dirty!!!

[Debra]

Natalee's room was #7114 - ground floor - was the next floor #7214?

Right....Holiday Inn has 3 wings/towers
Aruba, Bonaire & Curacao
Natalee was on first floor of Curacao wing
Same wing as Posner when he was on 7th floor
(Holiday Inn 7th floor has a freight elevator that goes to the basement)

[MumInOhio]

Natalee's room was #7114 - ground floor - was the next floor #7214?

Right....Holiday Inn has 3 wings/towers
Aruba, Bonaire & Curacao
Natalee was on first floor of Curacao wing
Same wing as Posner when he was on 7th floor
(Holiday Inn 7th floor has a freight elevator that goes to the basement)

So all that tower would have a 7 in it?  7114, 7214,7314 etc

[COLOMBO]

same statement-stated differently?

The Lamb and the two Shivas whisper in the dark,
while the lions pace silently in the bush.
Dirty Hand is the link! (between lions and babylonians)

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the note$ (follow the money)
to the poison house
where the children of the babylonians
and the arawak nation (lions)
meet, under cover of delusion.

He (DirtyHand) holds the real key (to the poison house)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:04 pm
Are the children of the elders there, or did they flee to Babylon?
DirtyHand knows, this is his Power
there will be 46 sacrifices (the answer is "yes")

# # # # # # # # # # #

again, same statements stated differently:

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”
 
next post-

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:32 pm
THE DRAX SCORES
drax Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:30 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles=
they weren’t on the beach?

[MumInOhio]

Natalee's room was #7114 - ground floor - was the next floor #7214?

Right....Holiday Inn has 3 wings/towers
Aruba, Bonaire & Curacao
Natalee was on first floor of Curacao wing
Same wing as Posner when he was on 7th floor
(Holiday Inn 7th floor has a freight elevator that goes to the basement)

So all that tower would have a 7 in it?  7114, 7214,7314 etc

Debra...do you know how the other hotels were numbered ie Marriott, Wyndham and Allegro? TIA

COLUMBO...you are not on ignore...I am too tired to remember what you said the lions were the other day and therefore I'm stick on the link....LOL...lost cause here