SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[vms]

Does anyone have a picture of Ben Vocking?

I just saw one and I don't remember where....will have a quick look in the Aruban Who's Who thread or ask *******.

Still on page 100 here.....

Thanx i found this in a peter r de vries documentary of 2006 about Natalee Holloway. At 8 minutes into the video they talk about Ben (Voc)king there is his picture and a group portrait with him and other guys in tuxedo's. Lionsclub maybe?

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/peter-r-de-vries-reportage-sbs6--2006-deel-5/998645198

JE, these two pics? I can't understand it so I'm not sure...

[Lala'sMom]

What is said about Ben Vocking?

[JE]

Does anyone have a picture of Ben Vocking?

I just saw one and I don't remember where....will have a quick look in the Aruban Who's Who thread or ask *******.

Still on page 100 here.....

Thanx i found this in a peter r de vries documentary of 2006 about Natalee Holloway. At 8 minutes into the video they talk about Ben (Voc)king there is his picture and a group portrait with him and other guys in tuxedo's. Lionsclub maybe?

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/peter-r-de-vries-reportage-sbs6--2006-deel-5/998645198

JE, these two pics? I can't understand it so I'm not sure...

Yep that's him and then they zoom out to show him in a group photo i was curious if anyone recognizes any of the other people in the picture

[MumInOhio]

Lala’s…How did Kristy get the impression Shango was a student? TIA
 
# Kristy on June 30th, 2005 1:55 am

Shango,

What do you study?

another posters named Michoo claimed that Shango was a bored college student sitting around playing with everyone...actually that may not be as far from the truth as some would think?  Are you interested?

Above post

Drugs…rave house…secluded

I know you have more you’re dying to post…LOL

102

[COLOMBO]

Lala's:

other card is dirty.....DirtyHand

[JE]

What is said about Ben Vocking?

They say that when the police went to sloots property vocking opened the door. He had taken a holliday to assist sloot during these difficult times and that bob wit altered the search warrant on the spot to restrict the search to jorans appartement.

[COLOMBO]

whoa......

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:14 pm
Simian, The Sumerians do not like the Babylonian intrusion.
The Babylonian card may be tossed from the table and crushed under Sumerian feet (or feat)….

re:"judicial feat"
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020312/edit.htm#2

[COLOMBO]

re: link above:

Who provided escort afte te Shivas left?

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.

[MumInOhio]

vms or Nut ... did aristotle elaborate any more on his posts? I know he said he didn't wnat to be a bore, but some of us would find them quite interesting...I'm sure.   TIA

Aristotle wrote:

here is the most telling part:

casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalie is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalie into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television.

Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon…



whereas others were merely opening windows to the truth with their guesses about vanderstraten, etc., casanostra was STANDING there staring the truth right in the face.
 

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Mum,

Thank you for responding yesterday on the other thread. Just decided it was best to leave well enough alone...

Thanks vms...I found this on the front page. I need to google for more info.

1.   Checkme on June 29th, 2005 10:16 pm
Moose, in short, NH, located on beach, is expected by party of people, prepared for her, take her to Colombia, (maybe Venezuela). The connection between AUA and Colombia is obviously what is the “missing link” here. I believe they know about this link but expsing it will ping them and all hope for NH being alive will be lost.

Can anyone tell me what AUA is please? Not sure if i got the right thing on google.

[Lala'sMom]

Lala's:

other card is dirty.....DirtyHand

The other card is van der Straten? I tend to think the cards are witnesses and suspects that if they tell what they know they can solve the case.  But then you and I never seem to agree on anything Shango. LOL

[Lala'sMom]

Lala’s…How did Kristy get the impression Shango was a student? TIA
 
# Kristy on June 30th, 2005 1:55 am

Shango,

What do you study?

another posters named Michoo claimed that Shango was a bored college student sitting around playing with everyone...actually that may not be as far from the truth as some would think?  Are you interested?

Above post

Drugs…rave house…secluded

I know you have more you’re dying to post…LOL

102

Am not! LOL

[Lala'sMom]

vms or Nut ... did aristotle elaborate any more on his posts? I know he said he didn't wnat to be a bore, but some of us would find them quite interesting...I'm sure.   TIA

Aristotle wrote:

here is the most telling part:

casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalie is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalie into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television.

Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon…



whereas others were merely opening windows to the truth with their guesses about vanderstraten, etc., casanostra was STANDING there staring the truth right in the face.
 

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Mum,

Thank you for responding yesterday on the other thread. Just decided it was best to leave well enough alone...

Thanks vms...I found this on the front page. I need to google for more info.

1.   Checkme on June 29th, 2005 10:16 pm
Moose, in short, NH, located on beach, is expected by party of people, prepared for her, take her to Colombia, (maybe Venezuela). The connection between AUA and Colombia is obviously what is the “missing link” here. I believe they know about this link but expsing it will ping them and all hope for NH being alive will be lost.

Can anyone tell me what AUA is please? Not sure if i got the right thing on google.

Aruba.

[MumInOhio]

Those pics don't look like the same guy as Klaas and ******* posted to me?

Funny a few pages back COLUMBO...

[vms]

vms or Nut ... did aristotle elaborate any more on his posts? I know he said he didn't wnat to be a bore, but some of us would find them quite interesting...I'm sure.   TIA

Aristotle wrote:

here is the most telling part:

casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalie is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalie into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television.

Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon…



whereas others were merely opening windows to the truth with their guesses about vanderstraten, etc., casanostra was STANDING there staring the truth right in the face.
 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mum,

Thank you for responding yesterday on the other thread. Just decided it was best to leave well enough alone...

Thanks vms...I found this on the front page. I need to google for more info.

1.   Checkme on June 29th, 2005 10:16 pm
Moose, in short, NH, located on beach, is expected by party of people, prepared for her, take her to Colombia, (maybe Venezuela). The connection between AUA and Colombia is obviously what is the “missing link” here. I believe they know about this link but expsing it will ping them and all hope for NH being alive will be lost.

Can anyone tell me what AUA is please? Not sure if i got the right thing on google.

Aruba.

IMO, that is an interesting catch, Mum. Who would refer to Aruba as AUA other than an airline/airport related employee?

[vms]

Those pics don't look like the same guy as Klaas and ******* posted to me?

Funny a few pages back COLUMBO...

Same here. I think JE just found us pics of the real guy.

[Observer]

Does anyone have a picture of Ben Vocking?

I just saw one and I don't remember where....will have a quick look in the Aruban Who's Who thread or ask *******.

Still on page 100 here.....

Thanx i found this in a peter r de vries documentary of 2006 about Natalee Holloway. At 8 minutes into the video they talk about Ben (Voc)king there is his picture and a group portrait with him and other guys in tuxedo's. Lionsclub maybe?

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/peter-r-de-vries-reportage-sbs6--2006-deel-5/998645198

JE, these two pics? I can't understand it so I'm not sure...

That guy there you will see in many videos. Most notably when Joran was on video when he went to give his DNA sample. I always thought it was Ben King,but he doesnt look like the other pictures that we have.

[MumInOhio]

Lala's:

other card is dirty.....DirtyHand

The other card is van der Straten? I tend to think the cards are witnesses and suspects that if they tell what they know they can solve the case.  But then you and I never seem to agree on anything Shango. LOL

Simian says the boy was seen.

[vms]

Does anyone have a picture of Ben Vocking?

I just saw one and I don't remember where....will have a quick look in the Aruban Who's Who thread or ask *******.

Still on page 100 here.....

Thanx i found this in a peter r de vries documentary of 2006 about Natalee Holloway. At 8 minutes into the video they talk about Ben (Voc)king there is his picture and a group portrait with him and other guys in tuxedo's. Lionsclub maybe?

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/peter-r-de-vries-reportage-sbs6--2006-deel-5/998645198

JE, these two pics? I can't understand it so I'm not sure...

That guy there you will see in many videos. Most notably when Joran was on video when he went to give his DNA sample. I always thought it was Ben King,but he doesnt look like the other pictures that we have.

The one above must be him, *******. Find us some more pics of him. 
Let's see just how visible he really was...

[MumInOhio]

vms or Nut ... did aristotle elaborate any more on his posts? I know he said he didn't wnat to be a bore, but some of us would find them quite interesting...I'm sure.   TIA

Aristotle wrote:

here is the most telling part:

casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalie is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalie into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television.

Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon…



whereas others were merely opening windows to the truth with their guesses about vanderstraten, etc., casanostra was STANDING there staring the truth right in the face.
 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mum,

Thank you for responding yesterday on the other thread. Just decided it was best to leave well enough alone...

Thanks vms...I found this on the front page. I need to google for more info.

1.   Checkme on June 29th, 2005 10:16 pm
Moose, in short, NH, located on beach, is expected by party of people, prepared for her, take her to Colombia, (maybe Venezuela). The connection between AUA and Colombia is obviously what is the “missing link” here. I believe they know about this link but expsing it will ping them and all hope for NH being alive will be lost.

Can anyone tell me what AUA is please? Not sure if i got the right thing on google.

Aruba.

Thanks Lala's ... I didn't want to take another wrong turn....I'm lost already!

[MumInOhio]

vms ...I think it is jackb that keep saying the peeps in Aruba are morphed into each other...Hard to find someone if you don't know what they look like and their name gets confused with someone elses!

UAU...I don't think that's the airport code, is it?  TIA