SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[MumInOhio]

Just wondering how Caps and JE decoded the morse..the internet or do they know it. Just wondering what sort of people know morse code these days? Airport people?

[Lala'sMom]

Of course, this link identifies them differently.  Interesting, if true. http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/dont-hate-player-hate-game.html

Thanks VMS, do you know how accurate it is?

Interesting Lala's...

We had Vocking all wrong until Sunday...he turned out to be a pastor.

Now you know why I asked.

[vms]

Just wondering how Caps and JE decoded the morse..the internet or do they know it. Just wondering what sort of people know morse code these days? Airport people?

http://www.onlineconversion.com/morse_code.htm

We had it decoded on the codetalker's thread, just after Merian posted it.
He loved playing games too.

[MumInOhio]

Lala's...I can't see anything else for the day of that Merian post, but the judge ordering them to go for DNA testing. Would have to check TV archives to see if there is anything else.

The Father
Soon the truth will be unveiled!

DNA makes sense....

[Lala'sMom]

Just wondering how Caps and JE decoded the morse..the internet or do they know it. Just wondering what sort of people know morse code these days? Airport people?

That particular part of Merian Ernst was decoded a long time ago...there is more Shango/Simian/Merian/Etc. on the regular case discussion threads than you will find in here...believe it or not.  I have often been accused of hijacking the threads for Shango...imagine that?   

[MumInOhio]

Of course, this link identifies them differently.  Interesting, if true. http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/dont-hate-player-hate-game.html

Thanks VMS, do you know how accurate it is?

Interesting Lala's...

We had Vocking all wrong until Sunday...he turned out to be a pastor.

Now you know why I asked.

jackb said peeps morphed into each other...I remember asking him about it once.

Thanks vms...so Mirian could have stayed at a Holiday Inn and posted in morse code.

This case is stranger than fiction.

[MumInOhio]

Of course, this link identifies them differently.  Interesting, if true. http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/dont-hate-player-hate-game.html

Thanks VMS, do you know how accurate it is?

Well I find it strange that the name van der Straten is on that link.

I had just about forgotten it. I do remember a little of the discussion on the forum, though not much. I recall some saying he never even had a son!




Interesting Lala's...

We had Vocking all wrong until Sunday...he turned out to be a pastor.

Now you know why I asked.

[MumInOhio]

Of course, this link identifies them differently.  Interesting, if true. http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/dont-hate-player-hate-game.html

Thanks VMS, do you know how accurate it is?

Well I find it strange that the name van der Straten is on that link.

I had just about forgotten it. I do remember a little of the discussion on the forum, though not much. I recall some saying he never even had a son!



Interesting Lala's...

We had Vocking all wrong until Sunday...he turned out to be a pastor.

Now you know why I asked.

My reply in red...sorry

[Lala'sMom]

Lala's...I can't see anything else for the day of that Merian post, but the judge ordering them to go for DNA testing. Would have to check TV archives to see if there is anything else.

The Father
Soon the truth will be unveiled!

DNA makes sense....

So where was the DNA to compare?  In the house?  In the cars? Where?  Makes you go hmmmmm, doesn't it? They didn't ask for Paulus' DNA, they were taking it from J2K.  Hmmmmmm.

[MumInOhio]

Lala's...I can't see anything else for the day of that Merian post, but the judge ordering them to go for DNA testing. Would have to check TV archives to see if there is anything else.

The Father
Soon the truth will be unveiled!

DNA makes sense....

So where was the DNA to compare?  In the house?  In the cars? Where?  Makes you go hmmmmm, doesn't it? They didn't ask for Paulus' DNA, they were taking it from J2K.  Hmmmmmm.

They took DNA from Beth back around June 11th...to compare to what?

I wonder what date they refused and how long it took for the judge to order  it?

If it's wasn't J2K's, it would show if it was a relative of one of the suspects, from the little I've seen of CSI.

[Anna]

Of course, this link identifies them differently.  Interesting, if true. http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/dont-hate-player-hate-game.html

Thanks VMS, do you know how accurate it is?

Well I find it strange that the name van der Straten is on that link.

I had just about forgotten it. I do remember a little of the discussion on the forum, though not much. I recall some saying he never even had a son!



Interesting Lala's...

We had Vocking all wrong until Sunday...he turned out to be a pastor.

Now you know why I asked.

My reply in red...sorry

I know the person who made that site and please note it has not been updated since November, 2005.  Island Hopper posted extensively at RWV and she certainly had no intent to deceive anyone.  Right from the start, Arubans we were in contact with misidentified photos right and left.  Don't know if it was intentional or what but they did.  And she abandoned the site and just never went back to correct the mislabeled photos.  Dan at RWV often removed the posts of people he banned such as Island Hopper and lots of hers are now missing from the archives of that forum but she did find a lot of information in the very beginning..

She was also handed lots of misinformation, as were we all, at the start and apparently she just moved on without going back to change anythings.

And we found the Ben (Voc)King/Alex Matthews connection as early as July, 2005.  Dan took down all the posts about that and said he wasn't going to have his blog taken over by "environmental wackos" which was apparently what he deemed the Matthews case to be about instead of human rights.  It was then she made her own blog to get that information out.

She was an excellent researcher and I wish she had stayed with her effort.  But all that is on that site is VERY old and preliminary however was very cutting edge at the time it was posted and was the best that was known.

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[Ree]

Just wondering how Caps and JE decoded the morse..the internet or do they know it. Just wondering what sort of people know morse code these days? Airport people?

I believe there is still a Boy Scout Badge related to Morse code.  I can't remember is there's still a girl scount badge that includes it.  My husband learned it in the military.

[MumInOhio]

July 17th…..Judge rules for suspects to give DNA

July 25th…..Aruban authorities dispatch a prosecutor to consult with FBI and bring in experts from the Netherlands

July 27TH. To 30th.….Drain pond near Marriott and await DNA results from the Netherlands and US


RIGHT LALA’S……..TO COMPARE WITH WHAT!


 

[MumInOhio]

Anna...Thanks for the info. I have seen the site before last week, but it was a while ago. I guess I always thought it was an error in labelling.

Ree...Thanks...that was what I was asking. Military people at the airport...

Sorry Lala's...I've got a bee in my bonnet about that airport.

[JE]

Just wondering how Caps and JE decoded the morse..the internet or do they know it. Just wondering what sort of people know morse code these days? Airport people?

MUM I just looked up morse code on the net and went from there. I dont know morse code lol. Probably military people do like the navy etc.

[MumInOhio]

July 19th…..Judge rules for suspects to give DNA

July 25th…..Aruban authorities dispatch a prosecutor to consult with FBI and bring in experts from the Netherlands

July 27TH. To 30th.….Drain pond near Marriott and await DNA results from the Netherlands and US


RIGHT LALA’S……..TO COMPARE WITH WHAT!


 

edit to correct date to 19th.

[MumInOhio]

LOL...the toothbrush...then why would he go to court to fight it if he knew his DNA wasn't on a darn toothbush...

More book bs...

July 27th

Joran went to court to appeal against the taking of the DNA sample.

Upon his return, Joran reads an article in Diario that has him quite upset, although he does not elaborate. According to Joran, Jossy Mansur publicizes “nonsense” and is only interested in obtaining an American visa.

Page 216

July 28th

Joran discusses ventilation in his jail cell.

July 29th

A lot of visitors came to see Joran as it was a Saturday. Joran also discovers that the DNA swab was disallowed and that, in any event, it was not his DNA on the Natalee’s toothpaste.

[Debra]

Exactly!  The DJ at the 2004 birthday party was Freddy's best friend Gregory & his girlfriend Melody. He's a Bibba Lekke gang member. All these pics are from his Tickle page in 2005.


EDIT - WHY WOULD YOU POST A PICTURE OF A BABY - DO YOU THINK THIS BABY IS INVOLVED?  PLEASE DON'T DO IT AGAIN
Labeled: Baby G Next pimp


"A Daury"

Joran calls Freddy...Freddy shows up with "2 dawgs"...Gregory & Daury? The car seen at the racquet club?.....

[Lala'sMom]

Just wondering how Caps and JE decoded the morse..the internet or do they know it. Just wondering what sort of people know morse code these days? Airport people?

MUM I just looked up morse code on the net and went from there. I dont know morse code lol. Probably military people do like the navy etc.

Up until a year or so ago..you had to know Morse Code to get a ham radio license. 

[MumInOhio]

debra...the 2 guys ...in the pic...who are they, which is which please? TIA