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« Reply #240 on: August 12, 2007, 02:13:27 PM »

hi monkeys!!!!!!! long time no see!!!
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« Reply #241 on: August 12, 2007, 02:26:53 PM »

Eleye, come to the Monkey Musing thread and let us know when you are going to be here.  We will tango Shango!  We only come here when we have a willing partner and everyone as of today hangs out in the Monkey Musings forum, so come in and announce that you are interested in Shango, and I bet you will have some willing accomplices, er, I mean partners.
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« Reply #242 on: August 12, 2007, 02:27:14 PM »

Hiya Eleye. Welcome Back!!!
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« Reply #243 on: August 12, 2007, 02:27:52 PM »

ok...thx tyler...
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« Reply #244 on: August 12, 2007, 02:27:54 PM »

hi monkeys!!!!!!! long time no see!!!

Eleye - good to see you.  I see you found the S&S thread.  We made some changes overnight.  Only NH discussion in the NH forum.  The old LCD thread is now called the Monkey Musings thread and is in the Current Events forum. 

S&S should be posted here.  NH discussion in the Natalee Case Discussion thread here in this forum.

P.S. I fixed your avatar for you  Laughing
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« Reply #245 on: August 12, 2007, 02:29:01 PM »

hey yappz...hi klass...ok..thx
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« Reply #246 on: August 12, 2007, 04:49:14 PM »

Now that Eyele is back I think I am going to retire.  I carried the torch of Shango for a long, long time.  I will sit back and watch.

Tylergal--I just read that story abut the SG and the girl.  I will try to find it, but I can't remember where in cyberspace I was.  She did identify one of those SG as being the one that offered her drugs or something to that effect. IMO
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« Reply #247 on: August 12, 2007, 07:33:30 PM »

Eleye, come to the Monkey Musing thread and let us know when you are going to be here.  We will tango Shango!  We only come here when we have a willing partner and everyone as of today hangs out in the Monkey Musings forum, so come in and announce that you are interested in Shango, and I bet you will have some willing accomplices, er, I mean partners.

I just read where shango claims that Natalies head will rollout of the ocean. Jorans lil bro valentjin said the same thing early on in the case that her head would roll out of the water and that makes me think papa vds could be van der staten as dirtyhand b/cause vderstraten bieing sloots best friend could have gotton that info from valentjin, if he was questioned by vdstraten.  Then it leads me to believe as i have all along that the head in the bag we have pictures of that resembles natalee is it, and that they have recovered body or parts there of.  There were huge discussions on this before in 05 and thruout06.  Anyone remember? any ideas?
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« Reply #248 on: August 12, 2007, 08:02:29 PM »

Where does Max Arends fit in?  If you go by the actual order, LOrenzo is the fourth, Max Arends #5 and Steve Croes #6, but we are not privy to the "true order."  Lorenzo was questioned according to Fox on the 16th and shortly after on the same date, Max Arends.  On the 17th, comes Steve Croes.  He came in to give Lorenzo the alibi.  Dirty Hand has walked ... but has not partaken...I do not really think Shango implies JVDStrateen is dirty hand.  I might be wrong and reading it wrong and I know how you come to that conclusion but I can go elsewhere with the same statement.   Not wanting to start world war III, just thinking. . . .


Those numbers make sense unless you consider that Simain was posting from an ALE perspective.  Paulus could have been the fourth suspect once it wa learned that he provided advice to the three main suspects in the form of "No body, no case".  That would make Lorenzo the 5th suspect, imo.
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« Reply #249 on: August 12, 2007, 08:05:09 PM »

I do not really think Shango implies JVDStrateen is dirty hand.  I might be wrong and reading it wrong and I know how you come to that conclusion but I can go elsewhere with the same statement.   Not wanting to start world war III, just thinking. . . .


Who do you think Dirty Hand is?
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« Reply #250 on: August 12, 2007, 08:07:43 PM »

I just read where shango claims that Natalies head will rollout of the ocean.

Which of Shango's posts makes this claim?  I must have missed that one.  Do you know where I could find that?
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« Reply #251 on: August 12, 2007, 08:31:33 PM »

I just read where shango claims that Natalies head will rollout of the ocean.

Which of Shango's posts makes this claim?  I must have missed that one.  Do you know where I could find that?

I think she means Simian.  It's confusing to everyone because we are discussing them both at the same time.
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« Reply #252 on: August 12, 2007, 08:37:23 PM »

I just read where shango claims that Natalies head will rollout of the ocean.

Which of Shango's posts makes this claim?  I must have missed that one.  Do you know where I could find that?

I think she means Simian.  It's confusing to everyone because we are discussing them both at the same time.

Well, if it's referring to that post by 'Simian', I do believe Klass has confirmed that was not the rea Simian.  I guess it could have been Joran's brother, but we would have to ask Klaas where that IP address was from.
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« Reply #253 on: August 12, 2007, 08:56:38 PM »

ELEYE !!  It is so good to see you.  Now if we can only get Rockyroads back in here, I sure miss her too.  colors
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« Reply #254 on: August 12, 2007, 09:05:42 PM »

ELEYE !!  It is so good to see you.  Now if we can only get Rockyroads back in here, I sure miss her too.  colors
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« Reply #255 on: August 12, 2007, 09:17:45 PM »

ELEYE !!  It is so good to see you.  Now if we can only get Rockyroads back in here, I sure miss her too.  colors
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Simian Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:37 am
Her decapitated body to be found.
Her head to wash up on shore later.




 
 
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Sorry, I don't find all of what you have here as practical.  I would not seem at all practical to consider "Poppa VDS" is Poppa Van Der Straten,

Then there was no confirmation that DirtyHand was Van der Straten.
 
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« Reply #256 on: August 13, 2007, 01:33:48 AM »

And yes, some of us did see the bleeding girl in the bathtub and the twins saying, "Natalee H."  Did Valj see that in his bathtub? Is that where Anita saw the panties?  Was the maid sent home and Anita remanded home in order to clean up the bathroom? 
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« Reply #257 on: August 13, 2007, 03:52:11 AM »

http://hcgtv.net/viewtopic.php?id=1110&p=12


#287 2005-06-21 4:52 pm
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Guest Re: Joran Van Der Sloot, house searchedFirst of all I see a lot of you discussing the suspects being charged, The system in Aruba doesn't work like that. When they decide to go to court than they will charge them. Not before.

In the Aruban/Dutch/European system it is believed that releasing information will interfere with the process of a trial.

When the charges are presented these will be released.


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Guest Re: Joran Van Der Sloot, house searchedNobody knows what the Police have with regard to evidence. You cannot say that nothing has been found.

The first time a suspect is brought before a magistrate is to confirm that the process of arrest has been carried out accordingly. After that the suspect can be brought in again and evidence or testemony needs to be presented in which the magistrate may decide that it is reasonable to keep the suspect longer.

This can be repeated up to 116 days. This is done to protect the investigation.

There is one aspect that needs to be considered. Natalee H. is 18. Legal of age in Aruba. She cannot be found. She has no duty to let her whereabouts be known. There is no crime.

All that we know is that the boys lied about dropping her off at the Holiday Inn. The Police better have A LOT of evidence to hold them.




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Guest Re: Joran Van Der Sloot, house searchedThe FBI is completely involved with this case and is helping the Aruban Police.

One thing everybody has to understand is jurisdiction. In trial it might be turn out to be a technicality if a Judge will consider interference from outside "forces".

That is why the FBI can suggest certain things. They help with the serach and offer all technical assistance. However, their involvement is limited by jusridiction.

On another note, Aruba is an autonomous member of the Dutch Kingdom. Not a protectorate.


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« Reply #258 on: August 13, 2007, 11:58:12 AM »

And yes, some of us did see the bleeding girl in the bathtub and the twins saying, "Natalee H."  Did Valj see that in his bathtub? Is that where Anita saw the panties?  Was the maid sent home and Anita remanded home in order to clean up the bathroom? 

Tylergal,  I must have missed this as I don't ever recall reading about any of this......I also thought Anita and Valjentin were in Holland at the time that Natalee dissappeared.  Now I am really confused.
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« Reply #259 on: August 13, 2007, 12:08:51 PM »

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June 27th, 2005 at 8:59 am
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So it seems. This is the guy that Simian called suspect #5 a few days ago. I think it is on threat #1171. That is where he talks about a guy that was with Natalee for three days, they were at the kaseenos and it is caught on tape. Supposedly the 4th night, they were all together again at some hedonistic party. Theoretically, somebody escorted Joran and Natalee to this party at some “house of pleasure, vice and corrption” , where #5 confronted Joran, full of jealousy. Somebody took Joran home (don’t know who), and Natalee stayed with #5. Then, some authority figure knows that this guy kept Natalee, but the guy has a whole bunch of friends saying that he had a party at his home (that is his “airtight alibi” and supossedly, the only person that could break this alibi is “Dirty Hand” , which is some authority figure that does not want to open a pandora’s box, and perhaps is willing to sacrifice a scapegoat or something.
Complicated hum?????

Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:13 am
Lack of evidence is not proof of innocence.
The cowboys are looking everywhere, but the land and waters hold many secrets. The Babylonians need to keep an eye on the cowboys. The process muct be protected.
The ravers need to be pinched
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:51 am
The Babylonians and the cowboys have swarmed the dirty waters. The dead dogs are stinking.
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:59 am
The cowboys’ steel and wires are screaming. The dirty water is large, deep and too wide, but they are sure there is light on their screen.
The Babylonians will be proven right. All along they were right. The story given by the gamblers might check out after all.
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:14 am
The road from the boy’s home leads to the dirty water. Look for Noord and look for Moko.
The cowboys feet are wet. They are not quickdraws, they will creep by the inch. It’s deep and wide. The Babylonians need this, before time runs out.
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:33 am
Find Aruba. Look for Noord. Look for Montańa. Look for Moko. Let your fingers connect the dots.
The cowboys feet are deeper in the dirty water. The vultures are hanging around and are ready to pounce. Hang on to your tubes.
The Simian doesn’t want to be right
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:37 am
Her decapitated body to be found.
Her head to wash up on shore later.

crs Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:37 am
I am assuming that may not be the real Sim
crs Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:38 am
Nevermind he just confirmed. That is the real Sim.

Rachael Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:39 am
Simian when will she wash up on shore. Simian are you saying you forsurely know she is dead?
edie Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:39 am
No, I don’t think it is the real sim…
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:39 am
Why does anyone want to be the Simian’s doppelganger. The Simian finds that to be counter productive.
Sorry. The Simian is leaving.
KatCall Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:39 am
Read Simian last post. Maybe big news on the horizon!
Hopefloats Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:39 am
I think it might have been a good idea to let Pvds and Croes go if they didn’t really have enough evidence to hold them. Then you have to look at they must have alot more to hold Jvds on than just lieing because they released Pvds and Croes and they had done the same (lie that is). I think this thing is much deeper than it seems and there are people invovled that can cause serious harm to all involved. That is why there are no confessions being made. People are scared to talk
crs Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:39 am
I did not make the last comment - whoever is doing the imposter deal, top and get off the damn board!!
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:49 am
I leave now. The island is stiring
AllyinMiami Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:51 am
Simian, honey…don’t leave b/c of this jerk….Escribelo en espanol….and then I will translate for the rest….or Lucy can help me…
AllyinMiami Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:55 am
CRS—lately, i think that checkme’s initial posts were accurate…there is definitely a mastermind to all of this who has not even been implicated….they haven’t talked b/c their fear of “whoever” is far worse than their trepidation of this other person…
AllyinMiami Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:57 am
Thanks Jake—b/c i understand it far better than I write it…..the real sim knows spanish, the imposter doesn’t
Simian Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:58 am
They have found her. Watch your news stations for this one. I said this was to happen. You can praise The Simian later.



I found some interesting posts before and after the comment about her decapitated body.  Thought I'd share them and see what you think.....
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