SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[MumInOhio]

I did see some party pictures from the bars with Freddy last year.  I don't know if he's still in Aruba or maybe was there on school break?  Who knows?  If he's not in Aruba then my next guess would be with Ernesto in the Miami area.

Klaas...a poster asked a few weeks back if he was in the US...it made me wonder...

[Blonde]

This one

[jackb]

LOL...Sharon


Freddy is Venezuelan...

ARAMBATZIS PEREZ ROBBY GERARDUS from JE’s Link


From Dr Phil docs…

Name: Luis Guillermo Rodriguez
Date:22 July 2005
Pages: 5
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs, Zoraida De Cuba
Description: witness statement

Freddy may be dirtyhand.  He is neither Babylonian nor Arawak.  Also, Joran said (for what it is worth) the man he was speaking of was part Aruban.  Also I remember Freddy reading that Joran came home and changed shirts that night while he, himself was there sleeping.  He must have changed his "staying over story."  Shango speaks of deflowerings, etc., sounds like too young girls for this activity.  A lot of it must go on.  Freddy has some crap on many people, and his family, is no doubt connected through his older silly looking brother whose girlfriend looks like a boy in a dress who has had harmone shots.  Sick assed bunch.      jack blue

[kippy]

I think you are right on with Freddy.  There is so much information in this thread, I gave up long ago trying to keep up!  Freddy has always bugged me.  Where else in the world, other than Aruba, would they keep protecting a known pervert??  How many times was he picked up for the same thing...taking pictures of unconscious girls, underage girls, showing the pictures...the need for JK2 to return his camera. The pictures of him above really creep me out. When I saw the tape with Patrick I thought Daury must be Freddy, just for the fact that Urine does have "stuff" on him and has been loyal to him.  I also in my heart think Daury is papasloot. OOPS got off on a rant there..sorry.  Anyway, Freddy fits into so much of what Shango says in the very beginning.  Actually he could very well fit into what alot of the very early posters said back in 2005.  Keep up the good work, I'm pulling for ya! Big Monkey WOOTS! to all of you. 

[MumInOhio]

Well...it looks like Beth doesn't believe in all this coincidence either...and was Steve Croes singing?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/29/ng.01.html

[COLOMBO]

June 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
Checkme…check this…and please recheck:
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape. Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week.
After a couple of days girl meets another boy in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him. This makes first guy really mad. So mad he confronts second boy.
First guy never denies the affair. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.
How can this ever be solved?

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The 5th suspect. Does anyone remember what I said?

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Who said the alibi played for the Van Der Sloot’s? The 5th suspect is waltzing away.

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Was I the one who was speculative? My story was not about the boys. Don’t dismiss if you can’t remember. Are you asking for a refresher?

So who is this cool and crazy guy?  Give us a name!

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:50 pm
Some people on the other side of the pond know more than what they are saying. There testimony, there’s security footage, there are witnesses.

[CapsLockWizard]

Klaasend: LaLA:

I have sent you an email with the map in question

please upload to forum

[Lala'sMom]

I think you are right on with Freddy.  There is so much information in this thread, I gave up long ago trying to keep up!  Freddy has always bugged me.  Where else in the world, other than Aruba, would they keep protecting a known pervert??  How many times was he picked up for the same thing...taking pictures of unconscious girls, underage girls, showing the pictures...the need for JK2 to return his camera. The pictures of him above really creep me out. When I saw the tape with Patrick I thought Daury must be Freddy, just for the fact that Urine does have "stuff" on him and has been loyal to him.  I also in my heart think Daury is papasloot. OOPS got off on a rant there..sorry.  Anyway, Freddy fits into so much of what Shango says in the very beginning.  Actually he could very well fit into what alot of the very early posters said back in 2005.  Keep up the good work, I'm pulling for ya! Big Monkey WOOTS! to all of you. 

Page 28 is where the 5th suspect discussion begins and leads into Freddy in detail by page 36.  It's worth the read to see how things have changed since we have heard Joran's story...other stories. LOL

[MumInOhio]

Last one..not going to lose any more sleep on Freddy...Link no longer works..Good Night all...

08-27-2005, 05:14 PM 
LovelyPigeon
 Info on Freddy from BHT: Holloway Twitty said she wasn't surprised by the arrest of the third man, who she identified only as "Freddy," saying police and FBI agents had repeatedly mentioned him to her as a "person of interest" in the case.Holloway Twitty said the suspect was a friend of 18-year-old Joran van der Sloot, who has been detained since June 9 in the disappearance of Holloway. She said the man lived near the van der Sloots' home in Noord and had previously been questioned as a witness. - http://www.wral.com/apworldnews/4905559/detail.html
Link doesn’t work…

[MumInOhio]

Should I wait up ... Caps?...where's my yawning monkey....Hurry you guys, please!

[CapsLockWizard]

LALA: Klaasend:

I have also sent you a Google Earth Map about the Are

You can upload for the rest to work from

[jackb]

June 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
Checkme…check this…and please recheck:
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape. Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week.
After a couple of days girl meets another boy in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him. This makes first guy really mad. So mad he confronts second boy.
First guy never denies the affair. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.
How can this ever be solved?

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The 5th suspect. Does anyone remember what I said?

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Who said the alibi played for the Van Der Sloot’s? The 5th suspect is waltzing away.

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Was I the one who was speculative? My story was not about the boys. Don’t dismiss if you can’t remember. Are you asking for a refresher?

So who is this cool and crazy guy?  Give us a name!

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:50 pm
Some people on the other side of the pond know more than what they are saying. There testimony, there’s security footage, there are witnesses.

Now letttsss see.  Who would have access to video tapes?  Could it be SATAN?  Maybe, but the Cromvroits may be working for him.  They have the "keys" to everything.  The sergeant at arms would have the key to the Lions Den, wouldn't he?  Who would that be?
I am thinking at that time it would be different than it is now.  "The Babylonians know her"  could simply mean:  The Babylonians were with her last and know where she was taken, etc.     Jack b

[Kermit]

Page 114 Jorans book
Joran visits neighbor Freddy

7A Catiri Freddy Zedan Arambatziz

ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT     LILIAN REGINA     MONTANJA     39-F
http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm


#39-F Montana (Montanja), Noord

Freddy’s house:
7A Catiri (apartment)

Mom's address is: 62 Montana is ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ address in NOORD

WELCO
Catiri 1
NOORD
Tel: (297) 5871916
Fax:

PARADISE RESTAURANT
Catiri 5 A
NOORD
Tel: (297) 5879126
Fax:
5-TH GEAR ART PRODUCTIONS
Catiri 6
ORANJESTAD
Tel: (297) 5871241
Fax: (297) 5871241
Email: lemminga@setarnet.aw



Freddy is Venezuelan



Ernesto on the left

Here are the exact charges against Freddy Arambatziz, according to Vinda de Sousa:

Intentionally distributing sexual images of a minor.
Intercourse with an unconscious person.
Sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years.

That is what confuses me about all this.  Freddy was obviously being questioned concerning Natalee very early in all this.  From what we can tell he was the person arrested right after Steve Croes and yet, we never heard anything about him until we got a glimpse at those van conversations between Joran and K2.  Since then, he's been the mystery man, mostly because we didn't know he was on the radar early.  The only thing left is to establish that Natalee met Freddy earlier in her vacation...if that is done...then we most likely have found our 5th suspect. 


I wonder why Freddy would have Joran shaking in his boots?  What is the connection that Freddy has that could be that powerful?  The only thing I can think of would be drugs and money laundering and maybe even weapons smuggling of some type.

Art: It could have been Freddy. I've seen a lot of interviews, one of those interviews talks about the fact Paul had gotten attorneys for thse kids the first week in June before they were even arrested. He got an attorney for Freddy, who wasn't even arrested until September. That tells you a lot an Freddy is one of the 5 people I mentioned earlier.

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Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis,  is accused of taking photos of a minor female in "tempting poses" and of showing the photos to other people, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia. He is also suspected of having unspecified "physical contact" with the girl, she said.
FREDDY’S ATTORNEY: DIANE Emerencia, or Lady Eyes




TUESDAY,  MAY 31
 
sometime during the day ** Sander calls  Freddy. ** The conversation went concerning my telephone that was stolen ( SG - 6/17)



Freddy knew about the invented Holiday Inn and the tale which my brother and I and Joran told and that the missing girl was dropped off at the beach at the Marriott. My brother Deepak had told me that he and Joran invented the tale but to Freddy the beach tale was told.
Satish Kalpoe Suspect Statement 06/24/05



Satish Kalpoe Suspect Statement 06/30/05
Freddy is the person Joran confides in and he can tell you the truth.


Freddy is a light colored latino from Venezuela that only spoke papi.
(page 1 Joran's book)


Joran and Freddy often went to the beach. He got him in touch with the pretty girls.
(page 5 Joran's book)

Joran says Freddy introduced in to the paradise that had always been in front of him.
(Page 5 Joran's book)

together with Freddy and Jaime Joran would trawl the beaches and swimming pools to chat up tourists
(Page 1 Joran's book)


"the pimpology crew"

 Freddy was my best friend
(page 7 Joran's book and Freddy Zedan Witness Statement June 12th 2005)
I tell my father that I want to talk to Freddy to talk about this whole thing.
Freddy practically lives next to me and is one of my best friends.

DAVE: Any name that is mentioned in the interrogation was called in for questioning.
(Source: BFN - Dave Holloway shared with BFN Chat)

June 13, 2005 - Freddy witness statement
June 16, 2005 - Freddy Alexander Arambatzis statement
June 17, 2005 - Freddy witness statement
June 28, 2005 - Freddy Alexander Zedan Arambatzis witness statement
July 1, 2005 - Freddy witness statement
July 20, 2005 - Freddy witness statement
Feb. 10, 2006 - Freddy witness statment


D: And I also trusted Freddy like a brother.
(Polis tapes)


D: He keeps information behind. You know that Van der Sloot trusts Freddy with his life.
Freddy knows what has happened. Freddy knows the truth.
D: Freddy knows, Freddy knows.
S: I’ve just said, Freddy also knows about the story of what happened, ask him.
D: Freddy knows
(Polis tapes)




BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran a

The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers.(Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney,Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney on At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera - August 27, 2005)


MARTINA, Karen Theresa Paulina   – Allegedly was in porn video taped by Freddy. Joran admits to having sex with her multiple times.  Was named by JQK as a date rape victim of Joran, but Tacopina claims she has said it was consensual



LEJUEZ: : She is a minor, so I won’t say anything about her. She has been involved in whatever the young man is being accused of right now. She is not the only one. The news we are getting right now is there are sex films that are being produced for selling. I think this information I am getting right now is bigger than even we expected.



Monday afternoon on the 30th, Joran came to my house.(Joran's book)



Prosecutor's office spokeswoman Mariaine Croes told FOX News that the third person was a man known as "Freddy" or "F.A.," said to be a friend of Joran van der Sloot, who has been held in the case since June 9.

[Lala'sMom]

Klaasend: LaLA:

I have sent you an email with the map in question

please upload to forum

Thanks.

[Lala'sMom]

Klaas is going to have to resize it for us.  I uploaded, but it says the image is too large. She will fix it. She's a wizard...she really is.

[Lala'sMom]

CAPS
Did you send those other two to Klaas too?  That one with Freddy's home in relation to those apartments is interesting. Are those the apartments you mentioned Joran knew about?

[Lala'sMom]

Should I wait up ... Caps?...where's my yawning monkey....Hurry you guys, please!

Hang on. I have asked for assistance. The images just say they are too large. So Klaas has to work her magic.

[CapsLockWizard]

LALA :

Who is the attorney for Freddy, Who is representing him as Legal adviser

[Lala'sMom]

LALA :

Who is the attorney for Freddy, Who is representing him as Legal adviser

Diane Emerencia. I think. Check out the posts above by Kermit.

[klaasend]

From Capslock:

Please load this map to show the houses.
39f is located just 3 minutes walking distance of the Montanja Park apartments..



Montanja 19 to Montanja 39f link



Freddy home to Montana Park Apartments.