SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[Chata]

Finngirl said:
"
simian & shango knew each other & did not like each other at all.
much sniping & trading of insults, a very female way of doing things.
I always had the impression that simian was snippy, impatient & short-tempered.
the way they talked to each other truly does sound like a cat fight

(w/ apologies to my gender for the stereotype) "

Thanks for the post ... a good one.

Sometimes stereotyping just fits ... but what if Shango (or one of his personalities) was just a bitchy she-male??? 

Whatever/whoever both of them were/are, I think they were conveying information and maybe some insight into the workings of Aruba. MHO.

Chata

[Finbar]

Finngirl said:
"
simian & shango knew each other & did not like each other at all.
much sniping & trading of insults, a very female way of doing things.
I always had the impression that simian was snippy, impatient & short-tempered.
the way they talked to each other truly does sound like a cat fight

(w/ apologies to my gender for the stereotype) "

Thanks for the post ... a good one.

Sometimes stereotyping just fits ... but what if Shango (or one of his personalities) was just a bitchy she-male??? 

Whatever/whoever both of them were/are, I think they were conveying information and maybe some insight into the workings of Aruba. MHO.

Chata

I am not stereotyping. I just let the chips fall where they may.

The textual clues lead me to be certain that sim was female.

sim threatened Shango with, "get you eight days in the hole with stale bread for you, you fool"(WTTE). ALE connection. A male would not use these methods of insults or threats.

I first thought sim could be female or a gay person. But, the evidence points to female.

They were conveying info. That is why it is important to who they were. To figure out their motives. Help? Mislead?

I do not have a clear gender for Shango. I am open to ideas. I always thought that the obvious pick was Eduardo Matthew. But I could not find the early clues to the ID for multiple reasons.

I do believe Shango spoke with authority from a point of trying to help by giving some deep background to the island life.

Why Shango chose to do it the way done - could be many reasons. Think about it, their life could be in danger by trying to help if what is really happening down there - drugs, cartel etc..

Me thinks Shango knew some things.

Only a few know everything.

Thanks Shango.

I must go feed the credit cards.

Fin

[Lala'sMom]

9:41 pm shango says:
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA

Maybe I should explain my comment that Shango did not know where Natalee was.  Shango clearly says that she is not in the ocean...never heard the buoy toll...some think it means she was dead when she was placed in the ocean...but to me it says Shango is claiming she is not in the ocean.  I think....and this is a big IF...Shango knew anything...he knew she was not in the ocean.  A location in his riddles....such as a specific location...not a general area....tells me he did not know where she was placed for her final resting place.

[Lala'sMom]

Finngirl said:
"
simian & shango knew each other & did not like each other at all.
much sniping & trading of insults, a very female way of doing things.
I always had the impression that simian was snippy, impatient & short-tempered.
the way they talked to each other truly does sound like a cat fight

(w/ apologies to my gender for the stereotype) "

Thanks for the post ... a good one.

Sometimes stereotyping just fits ... but what if Shango (or one of his personalities) was just a bitchy she-male??? 

Whatever/whoever both of them were/are, I think they were conveying information and maybe some insight into the workings of Aruba. MHO.

Chata

I am not stereotyping. I just let the chips fall where they may.

The textual clues lead me to be certain that sim was female.

sim threatened Shango with, "get you eight days in the hole with stale bread for you, you fool"(WTTE). ALE connection. A male would not use these methods of insults or threats.

I first thought sim could be female or a gay person. But, the evidence points to female.

They were conveying info. That is why it is important to who they were. To figure out their motives. Help? Mislead?

I do not have a clear gender for Shango. I am open to ideas. I always thought that the obvious pick was Eduardo Matthew. But I could not find the early clues to the ID for multiple reasons.

I do believe Shango spoke with authority from a point of trying to help by giving some deep background to the island life.

Why Shango chose to do it the way done - could be many reasons. Think about it, their life could be in danger by trying to help if what is really happening down there - drugs, cartel etc..

Me thinks Shango knew some things.

Only a few know everything.

Thanks Shango.

I must go feed the credit cards.

Fin

Does Matthew live in Florida?

[CapsLockWizard]

I do believe Shango Knows what has happend and put it all for someone to unravel it and by this way not involved his own name but left a map of clues that involve two cases that was going on in Aruba in 2005.

Case 1 - was the Natalee Holloway
Case 2 - The Ritz Carlton Between the Brazillian investor and the USA but with the palyers are of the corruption is a group of Dutch.

The same players play in both cases at the higher up in the corruption chain.

In case-1 and case -2 both have similair player but with diffrent rol (act)

when you separate what is case 1 and what is case 2, you can see better.

e.g. When the word Lions is used, it means two type of Lions.

Case -2 :The Ritz Carlton Lion ---Look at their logo to find out it is a lion

Case -1 :The Dutch Lion ----Look at their Coat of arms. it is a Lion

Shango took the time put two story into some post to confuse the readers or to protect his neck.

In both case there is a answer to the Riddle.

In the case of Simian, Simian knows where the oroginal plans was to dump the bosy and the area was search but noting was found... The reason is the cops must have discover that Simian was leaking the info and so there was a change in the plans. The original plan that was in Noord where the Texas Group was Searching.

Then from there, someone must have come up with a fish story about the Ocean to obscure the investigation.

When the Perps plans has change he must have gotten sensitive information, by this, Shange made shure that the world who read the Monkeys will read his riddle and with hope for some one to decode it. By decoding the clues that will lead to a new chapter in Natalee Case and the Body.

Where is Shango now? God nows. I believe he post his riddle when he went on vacation from his hotel or apartment.

The Caps



 

[CapsLockWizard]

Finngirl said:
"
simian & shango knew each other & did not like each other at all.
much sniping & trading of insults, a very female way of doing things.
I always had the impression that simian was snippy, impatient & short-tempered.
the way they talked to each other truly does sound like a cat fight

(w/ apologies to my gender for the stereotype) "

Thanks for the post ... a good one.

Sometimes stereotyping just fits ... but what if Shango (or one of his personalities) was just a bitchy she-male??? 

Whatever/whoever both of them were/are, I think they were conveying information and maybe some insight into the workings of Aruba. MHO.

Chata

I am not stereotyping. I just let the chips fall where they may.

The textual clues lead me to be certain that sim was female.

sim threatened Shango with, "get you eight days in the hole with stale bread for you, you fool"(WTTE). ALE connection. A male would not use these methods of insults or threats.

I first thought sim could be female or a gay person. But, the evidence points to female.

They were conveying info. That is why it is important to who they were. To figure out their motives. Help? Mislead?

I do not have a clear gender for Shango. I am open to ideas. I always thought that the obvious pick was Eduardo Matthew. But I could not find the early clues to the ID for multiple reasons.

I do believe Shango spoke with authority from a point of trying to help by giving some deep background to the island life.

Why Shango chose to do it the way done - could be many reasons. Think about it, their life could be in danger by trying to help if what is really happening down there - drugs, cartel etc..

Me thinks Shango knew some things.

Only a few know everything.

Thanks Shango.

I must go feed the credit cards.

Fin

Does Matthew live in Florida?

I know now who Shango is and it is Matthew.

[JE]

Caps  eduardo mathew the guy that attacked ben vocking?

[Blonde]

Did Shango stop posting at the same time as van der Straaten left Aruba?

[CapsLockWizard]

Caps  eduardo mathew the guy that attacked ben vocking?

Yes, it is him...If he has a personal war agains the corruption of Aruba. And how he was incaserated for taken justice in his own hand agains his ex. wife...But the ex wife was also playing and in his rage but in KIA they abuse of all his rights and they ried to break him apart. He was a very fit guy and owner of the Millenium Security in Aruba. He was body guard for some wealthy old ladies that travel frequenlty to Aruba and he was their protector.

[Observer]

Did Shango stop posting at the same time as van der Straaten left Aruba?

Jan VDS left a few months after Natalee dissapeared and I believe Shango stopped posting the end of June 2005.

Matthews apparently was in Rhode Island in 2005.

[COLOMBO]

when was the re-election of Oduber?

[CapsLockWizard]

Did Shango stop posting at the same time as van der Straaten left Aruba?

Jan VDS left a few months after Natalee dissapeared and I believe Shango stopped posting the end of June 2005.

Matthews apparently was in Rhode Island in 2005.

Yes there was the weathy old ladies from Rhode Island. They used to say a lot in the Radisson when visiting Aruba. It all make sense now.

[CapsLockWizard]

Yes,
They were the weathy old ladies from Rhode Island. They used to stay a lot in the Radisson when visiting Aruba.

It all make sense now.

[JE]

Yes,
They were the weathy old ladies from Rhode Island. They used to stay a lot in the Radisson when visiting Aruba.

It all make sense now.

caps maybe this helps

Eduardo Alexander Antonio Mathew (born 1973) is a Netherlands national who now lives in Providence, Rhode Island. He is a kickboxing instructor by profession. In 2004 and 2005, Mathew campaigned against alleged racism against black inmates in the Caribbean island of Aruba (off the coast of Venezuela), which is part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/eduardo-mathew/

excuse me for sounding stupid but i m lost now what has rhode island to do with it all. Plz explain?

[Observer]

when was the re-election of Oduber?

I believe it was the end of Sept 2005

[2NJSons_Mom]

when was the re-election of Oduber?

September, 2005, iirc.  I'd have to search for the exact date of the election, but I believe it was early in the month.

[2NJSons_Mom]

when was the re-election of Oduber?

September, 2005, iirc.  I'd have to search for the exact date of the election, but I believe it was early in the month.

******* is right...found an article dated 9/25/05:

http://www.nationnews.com/326426343404700.php

[COLOMBO]

The rule of the Arawak King is the Final word.

DirtyHand has fouled the air for all nearby, but the Arawak Nation will claim Babylonian Authority prevents them from hunting Lions, and DirtyHand.

But the Arawak king controls destiny of all. The Arawak king has DirtyHands and DirtyFeet. If he is to reign anew, he cannot be soiled more.

[COLOMBO]

had thought that was the dynamic in play when Shango stopped posting-probably not, given the timing

IMO-whatever the circumstance surrounding this comment, no further posting would be useful:

"If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found."

[JE]

But the contention in our estimation might be over the political career of Mr. Oduber and how he`s been portrayed in the newspaper. You know, separate from the Natalee Holloway case, he is running a political campaign. With the Natalee Holloway case, her disappearance happened on his watch.

You know, we didn`t even see him start to really pressure the government to let the FBI in on this case until a few weeks ago. And from what I understood and reading in the polls, that was good timing for Mr. Oduber.

GRACE: Yes. I saw that letter that he wrote, the prime minister, misspelling Natalee`s name two times in one letter. Has anybody heard of spell-check in Aruba? So that`s how you get re-elected there, you sue people that speak out against you for defamation?

FAULKNER: Well, you know, I think it`s just posturing.

GRACE: If that were true, both Bill Clinton and George Bush would have thrown me in jail a long time ago. Go ahead.

FAULKNER: It`s just posturing, I think, at this point. You know, we can`t possibly know every detail that`s at the heart of this. This would be a long-running relationship. Both these men have been public figures a long time.

GRACE: OK. Just give me the short end of the stick on this. When`s the re-election?

FAULKNER: I believe it`s September 23rd.

GRACE: OK. September 23rd.