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2NJSons_Mom
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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February 27, 2008, 07:40:56 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 07:37:09 PM
had thought that was the dynamic in play when Shango stopped posting-probably not, given the timing
IMO-whatever the circumstance surrounding this comment, no further posting would be useful:
"If the cowboys do not find the loot today,
it will not be found
."
Was that post the end of June?
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February 27, 2008, 07:44:30 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 27, 2008, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 07:37:09 PM
had thought that was the dynamic in play when Shango stopped posting-probably not, given the timing
IMO-whatever the circumstance surrounding this comment, no further posting would be useful:
"If the cowboys do not find the loot today,
it will not be found
."
Was that post the end of June?
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:12 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found
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February 27, 2008, 07:50:36 PM »
Quote from: JE on February 27, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 27, 2008, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 07:37:09 PM
had thought that was the dynamic in play when Shango stopped posting-probably not, given the timing
IMO-whatever the circumstance surrounding this comment, no further posting would be useful:
"If the cowboys do not find the loot today,
it will not be found
."
Was that post the end of June?
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:12 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found
Thanks, I just looked it up, myself (which I should have done before asking). That was a Monday, and exactly a month following Natalee's disappearance. Maybe it has no significance at all.....it was just an observation at this point.
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February 27, 2008, 07:58:46 PM »
They started to drain the pond on 6/27...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/26/aruba.missing/index.html?iref=newssearch
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need to know significance of JUN 28
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February 27, 2008, 08:01:15 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 27, 2008, 07:58:46 PM
They started to drain the pond on 6/27...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/26/aruba.missing/index.html?iref=newssearch
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Date was wrong. My bad.
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February 27, 2008, 08:07:21 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 07:58:58 PM
need to know significance of JUN 28
Well that day Lorenzo Van Rijn was questioned,Daury Rodriguez birthday and something else that I cant find at the moment.
This is from the Dr Phil documents...
Name: Annie Vicenta Todd
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Ghrizanti Tromp & Dennis Jacobs
Description: witness pointing out an area of interest
Name: Annie Vicenta Todd
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Ghrizanti Tromp & Dennis Jacobs
Description: witness statement about a gray Toyota
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so they start to drain this pond 7/26, yet-Shango said that the loot will not be found after 6/27
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February 27, 2008, 08:08:44 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 27, 2008, 07:50:36 PM
Quote from: JE on February 27, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 27, 2008, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 07:37:09 PM
had thought that was the dynamic in play when Shango stopped posting-probably not, given the timing
IMO-whatever the circumstance surrounding this comment, no further posting would be useful:
"If the cowboys do not find the loot today,
it will not be found
."
Was that post the end of June?
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:12 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found
Thanks, I just looked it up, myself (which I should have done before asking). That was a Monday, and exactly a month following Natalee's disappearance. Maybe it has no significance at all.....it was just an observation at this point.
which brings us back to Mon/June 27,
the day of the much-anticipated TES quarry/pond search
AFAIK that was the only public activity that day ...
of course there may have been something percolating behind the scenes
shango stressed that June 27 was a now-or-never day for body recovery
a group of locals interrrupted TES' work:
jeering/throwing rocks into the water to disrupt the equipment/etc
leave it to aruba to allow the local riff raff
to impede an officially sanctioned body search
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February 27, 2008, 08:10:55 PM »
what day did Wyndham sell?
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February 27, 2008, 08:15:41 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 08:10:55 PM
what day did Wyndham sell?
scratch that-that was in '06
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February 27, 2008, 08:21:22 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 07:07:50 PM
when was the re-election of Oduber?
Oduber was re-elected. 09-26-2005
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February 27, 2008, 08:30:30 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
so they start to drain this pond 7/26, yet-Shango said that the loot will not be found after 6/27
This is because they change the maze location
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 27, 2008, 05:59:51 PM
I do believe Shango Knows what has happend and put it all for someone to unravel it and by this way not involved his own name but left a map of clues that involve two cases that was going on in Aruba in 2005.
Case 1 - was the Natalee Holloway
Case 2 - The Ritz Carlton Between the Brazillian investor and the USA but with the palyers are of the corruption is a group of Dutch.
The same players play in both cases at the higher up in the corruption chain.
In case-1 and case -2 both have similair player but with diffrent rol (act)
when you separate what is case 1 and what is case 2, you can see better.
e.g. When the word Lions is used, it means two type of Lions.
Case -2 :The Ritz Carlton Lion ---Look at their logo to find out it is a lion
Case -1 :The Dutch Lion ----Look at their Coat of arms. it is a Lion
Shango took the time put two story into some post to confuse the readers or to protect his neck.
In both case there is a answer to the Riddle.
In the case of Simian, Simian knows where the oroginal plans was to dump the bosy and the area was search but noting was found... The reason is the cops must have discover that Simian was leaking the info and so there was a change in the plans. The original plan that was in Noord where the Texas Group was Searching.
Then from there, someone must have come up with a fish story about the Ocean to obscure the investigation.
When the Perps plans has change he must have gotten sensitive information, by this, Shange made shure that the world who read the Monkeys will read his riddle and with hope for some one to decode it. By decoding the clues that will lead to a new chapter in Natalee Case and the Body.
Where is Shango now? God nows. I believe he post his riddle when he went on vacation from his hotel or apartment.
The Caps
CMB logo is a Lion
Paulus made 2 trips to the CMB
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Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
so they start to drain this pond 7/26, yet-Shango said that the loot will not be found after 6/27
This is because they change the maze location
two different pond searches
June 27 TES search was at the small quarrry pond near the vdS home ...
pics were posted on pg 138
shango's first/earliest posts June 26/27
stressed the the now-or-never status re small quarry pond search
the large pond which was drained lies across from Marriott.
draining began July 26/was expected to take 24 hours,
never was fully/successfully drained
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Quote from: finngirl on February 27, 2008, 08:40:14 PM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 27, 2008, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
so they start to drain this pond 7/26, yet-Shango said that the loot will not be found after 6/27
This is because they change the maze location
two different pond searches
June 27 TES search was at the small quarrry pond near the vdS home ...
pics were posted on pg 138
shango's first/earliest posts June 26/27
stressed the the now-or-never status re small quarry pond search
the large pond which was drained lies across from Marriott.
draining began July 26/was expected to take 24 hours,
never was fully/successfully drained
It is that nobody did understand shango Location... to undertand it you must known him and his past.
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Quote from: finngirl on February 27, 2008, 08:40:14 PM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 27, 2008, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
so they start to drain this pond 7/26, yet-Shango said that the loot will not be found after 6/27
This is because they change the maze location
two different pond searches
June 27 TES search was at the small quarrry pond near the vdS home ...
pics were posted on pg 138
shango's first/earliest posts June 26/27
stressed the the now-or-never status re small quarry pond search
the large pond which was drained lies across from Marriott.
draining began July 26/was expected to take 24 hours,
never was fully/successfully drained
and there is no loot......
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found
Aruba is preserved and Babylon will pay the price
the gods know that the blame lies on babylon
the cowboys will go back to the fort without the loot
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA
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I wonder why they change location and go to a shallow water aea.
Shango (Mat) was pointing them all thaat time where to find a secret.
their is still change the secret is still there.? 2.5 years has been gone.
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February 27, 2008, 10:58:52 PM »
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 27, 2008, 08:57:29 PM
I wonder why they
change location and go to a shallow water aea.
Shango (Mat) was pointing them all thaat time where to find a secret.
their is still change the secret is still there.? 2.5 years has been gone.
but they went to the shallow water area first
looking at it in direct order:
something caused them to look at the shallow pond,
perhaps partly because it was so close to vdS home
shango didn't point in the direction of water near the vdS home ... simian did.
but this pointing from simian came during the first/June search,
it didn't come ahead of time, causing them to look there.
it was a comment on the current activity
11:14 am
simian
says:
The road from the boy’s home leads to the dirty water.
Look for Noord and look for Moko.
The cowboys feet are wet.
They are not quickdraws, they will creep by the inch.
It’s deep and wide. The Babylonians need this, before time runs out
11:33 am
simian
says:
Find Aruba.
Look for Noord. Look for Montaña. Look for Moko.
Let your fingers connect the dots.
The cowboys feet are deeper in the dirty water.
The vultures are hanging around and are ready to pounce.
Hang on to your tubes. The Simian doesn’t want to be right.
11:37 am simian says:
Her decapitated body to be found. Her head to wash up on shore later.
altho I'm not clear on how
washing up on shore
relates to a quarry filled w/ water ... ?
the deep water search in the larger pond was a month later/July
I doubt that ALE or TES was listening to sim/shango back then, anyway
shango said Mary never heard the buoy toll ...
buoys being objects found in seas or lakes, more often than not.
so in relation to a buoy, shango did mention water
but more likely it was ocean water, given the context
some believe not hearing the buoy toll
meant she was unconscious when she was transported to sea ...
some believe it meant she was never taken to the ocean
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should have included the date of the sim posts above:
Mon June 27
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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