SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[Anna]

JE,

You may well be correct.  I am speaking only from memory and mine is frazzled at the moment.

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[JE]

I m just as confused as you now

"There was also a new witness: a girlfriend of one of the three suspects. She said that a little more than five hours after the disappearance, she was called by one of the three suspects with the information that 'something bad' happened that he couldn't talk about over the phone. It appeared that didn't concern Van der Sloot but Satish and Deepak. Van der Sloot: 'That wasn't any new evidence against me. It concerned a tapped conversation between Satish and his girlfriend from Suriname, in which he so-called* told her that something bad happened and that Deepak supposedly said the girl was dead'."

 

[MumInOhio]

oh and the teacher drowned at conchi just like the bulgarian tourist. Conchi is less than a mile from where tim miller believed the shallow grave was

Hi JE...I checked Conchi this morning and didn't find anything...all I found were tourists drowning on Aruba except for the one on June 7th 2005.

[JE]

oh and the teacher drowned at conchi just like the bulgarian tourist. Conchi is less than a mile from where tim miller believed the shallow grave was

Hi JE...I checked Conchi this morning and didn't find anything...all I found were tourists drowning on Aruba except for the one on June 7th 2005.

This is about the bulgarian at conchi
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/01/10/tourist-dies-in-aruba-drowns-at-conchi-aruba-it-has-a-beautiful-view-but-a-visit-is-not-without-danger-natalee-holloway-would-attest-the-same/

[JE]

this is about the 17 year old boy
I dont think it was at conchi though

******* posted this on


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/09/05/missing-man-gregory-van-der-biezen-drown-in-aruba-however-his-body-was-found/

Sounds like the same beach as the bloody mattress was found..They determined within hours that it was Dogs blood and no way related to Natalee Holloway..Hmmm…Who has a history of killing Dogs in Aruba besides Joran Van Der Sloot and Lorenzo Van Rijn??

However they launched a huge search in that area and also in Savaneta from a anonymous tip. Awemainta newspaper even reported Natalee was dead. Next day they said it was a mistake and was a 17 year old boy. Where is that Bloody Mattress?

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/Observer00000007/amAruba.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/Observer00000007/aruba_20paper.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/Observer00000007/2418646920086243696rMnIOK_ph.jpg

[Blonde]

I m just as confused as you now

"There was also a new witness: a girlfriend of one of the three suspects. She said that a little more than five hours after the disappearance, she was called by one of the three suspects with the information that 'something bad' happened that he couldn't talk about over the phone. It appeared that didn't concern Van der Sloot but Satish and Deepak. Van der Sloot: 'That wasn't any new evidence against me. It concerned a tapped conversation between Satish and his girlfriend from Suriname, in which he so-called* told her that something bad happened and that Deepak supposedly said the girl was dead'."

 

Yes wasn't that Deepak calling his xgirlfriend  maybe she was the one he asked if he could use her for his albi  she said NO and she called the  police on him.

[LoRain]

In this photo, the only one besides Oduber that I can for sure identy is EDISON BRIES:




If I'm not mistaken he was accused of sexual harrassment last year plus some scandal in Curacao or Bonaire having to do with prostitution (I think).

Could the guy behind the guy with the striped tie be one of the rock painters?

Thanks....I can't tell....I have seen his pic somewhere before.....

[Lala'sMom]

Caps posted those pics either in here on the NAH thread a few weeks back. They are all quite interesting.

[Finbar]

Anyone know the name of SGC's father?

Tick tock, the hammer & the block.


Fin

[Finbar]

From Kermit's post in the other thread:

"The justices on the Aruban bench:

mw. mr. E. Angela august 1st 2000
mw. mr. P. de Bruin august 1st 2000
mr. J.S. Kuiperdal
mr. P.A.H. Lemaire august 1st 2002
mr. C. Slothouber august 1st 2001
## mr. F.J.F. Gerard march 1st 2005
## mr. H.E. de Boer august 1st 2005
## mr. J.A. van Voorthuizen august 1st 2005



The justices on the Curacao bench

mw. mr. M.K. Asscheman-Versluis (since august 1st 1999)
mr. J. de Boer august 1st 1998
@ mr. R.A. Th. M. Dekkers after 2004 because at that time he was judge in The Hague
mr. W. Foppen (since august 1st 1999)
mr. L. van Gijn august 1st 2000
@ mr. L. Groefsema after 2004 because mr. L. Groefsema was a judge in Assen in 2004
@ mw. mr. L.C. Hoefdraad after 2004 because mw. mr. L.C. Hoefdraad at that time was a judge in the Hague
@ mr. S.M. Lieshout after 2004 because mr. S.M. Lieshout was a judge in Utrecht
mr. B.M. Mezas

@ mr. R.F.B. van Zutphen after 2004 because mr. R.F.B. van Zutphen was a judge in Amsterdam
mr. M.W. Zandbergen since may 1st 2000
@ mr. J.Th. Wit after 2004 because in 2004 he was DA in Dordrecht
mr. P. Wagemakers august 1st 2000
@ mr. R.W.J. van Veen after 2004 because in 2004 he was still a judge in Breda
mw. mr. M.M.M. Tillema september 1st 2000
@ mr. J.R. Sijmonsma after 2004
mw. mr. E.A. Saleh since august 1st 1999
mr. G.E.M. Polkamp november 1st 2000
@ mw. mr. M.H.H.A. Moes 2004 or later because in 2004 she was a judge in Almelo
mr. M.L.A. Angela since march 1st 2000
mr. A.N.G.N.E. Mijnssen since 1996, from november 2000 onwards part-time judge
mr. F.P. Wiel re-appointed for 3 more years on august 1st 1999
@ mr. H.A.C. Smid (since march 1st 2005)
## mr. J.M.P. Drijkoningen (since august 1st 2005)
## mw. mr. A.M.P. Geelhoed (since august 1st 2005)
## mr. K.J. Haarhuis (since august 1st 2005)
## mw. mr. L. de Kerpel-van de Poel (since august 1st 2005)
## mw. mr. A.S. Gratama (since august 1st 2005)
## mr. H.L. Wattel (since september 1st 2005)
Mr. P. W. van Schendel re-appointed for 3 more years on august 1st 2005

## mr. E.M. van der Bunt february 1st 2005
## mr. dr. J.P. de Haan february 1st 2005
@ mr. J.H. Bosch august 1st 2004
@ mr. E.P. van Unen august 1st 2004
@ mr. drs. G.C.C. Lewin august 1st 2004
@ mr W.J. Noordhuizen august 1st 2004
@ mr J.Th. Drop september 1st 2004

From the 45 justices working for the Court of Aruba and the Antilles:

11 started working there after Paul van der Sloot became a suspect
15 started working there much later than Paul van der Sloot

Only 19 might be friends of Paul van der Sloot and of them 14 were Curacao justices."

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46 sacrifices.

The judges serve three year contracts. Three years from 2005 would be now. A new(?) group of judges rotated in(unless they may serve more than once).

The 47th would break the cycle of conspiracy.

The conspiracy will then fall.

Judges....

The crooks, on Aruba or even in the United States, cannot flourish without corrupt lawyers and judges.

Look at all those businesses that people own there. They are washing machines.

Maybe PVDS is a lawyer for the dark side.

While I do not think drug trafficking is the answer that we seek, it is a piece of the puzzle. There are many pieces. All important.

We must shine a light on those that rule the night.

Why do the cowboys turn their heads? Me thinks the ABC's get their clothes washed there too. Easier than on the Hill.


Fin

[finngirl]

first interpretation of the 46 I've seen that makes me go

the post office, the laundromat and now this


 

[Lala'sMom]

Anyone know the name of SGC's father?

Tick tock, the hammer & the block.


Fin

You mean the guy he was taking to the airport when Greta stopped him? 

[Lala'sMom]

I think that guy was his uncle...don't remember if I have ever heard Steve's father's name. Hmmmmmmm.  Wonder if he's a judge? the uncle's name was Solinger or something like that, I think.

[Finbar]

first interpretation of the 46 I've seen that makes me go

the post office, the laundromat and now this


 

Gives the Sno-Cone Shop, down there, a whole new connotation.

Fin

[Finbar]

Anyone know the name of SGC's father?

Tick tock, the hammer & the block.


Fin

You mean the guy he was taking to the airport when Greta stopped him? 

No, his biological father.

Second post, was if Rufo? That name rings a bell. I thought cop, but maybe someone else, that was not kicked in the head by a miniature horse, could ring in.

Fin

[Finbar]

I think that guy was his uncle...don't remember if I have ever heard Steve's father's name. Hmmmmmmm.  Wonder if he's a judge? the uncle's name was Solinger or something like that, I think.

Why sis his uncle pick him up?

Maybe papa is dead. Maybe he is close to the uncle.

May be a dead end. I was reading old stuff and someone mentions SGC had a high ranking father in the judiciary. So, yes. Judge was what I was seeking.

Has anyone ever named his father?

Fin

[Observer]

Anyone know the name of SGC's father?

Tick tock, the hammer & the block.


Fin

His Uncle is Rufo Solognier retired ALE who he was living with..He has a son around 5 years old but not married. Not sure what his Fathers name is but I am assuming he lives in Curacao where they are from. I think his family is in the bottled water business.

[finngirl]

2005: lived w/ gramma/grampa, Tio Rufo lived next door ...
mom/pops in curacao

partnership in bottled water business began in 2006, IIRC

eBay rings a bell

[MumInOhio]

"The justices on the Aruban bench:

mr. J.S. Kuiperdal ...deceased...info in the thread somewhere...judge in the security guards cases.

The justices on the Curacao bench

From  previous posts back on page 74...coincidence???

mr. L. van Gijn august 1st 2000

Judge sorry the translated page didn't copy
Rechter Leo van Gijn wilde vooral van de bewindsman en het Departement van Luchtvaart horen waarom het eerste artikel van de verleende vergunning alle ruimte biedt aan de luchtvaartmaatschappij

Reply #1468 on: January 29, 2008, 01:53:32 PM »   Reply with quote
 
I knew I'd seen it...Jossy used Gijn...the other paper used Rijn...From what I've seen the Gijn family is influential and has a history in The netherlands...

#471 on: June 21, 2007, 11:39:26 AM » Quote 

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http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/6/21/


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Cas yena cu camara, yen di cacho brabo y rondona cu prikkel draad…
LORENZO VAN GIJN DETENI PA PLANTACION GRANDI
DI MARIHUANA NA SAVANETA

ORANJESTAD(AAN):Lorenzo van Gijn no ta un desconoci di polis. Den e bishitanan cu e Team Bijzondere Projecten a haci na diferente lugar, su cas no tabata un excepcion.

[Blonde]

His Uncle is Rufo Solognier retired ALE who he was living with.