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« Reply #3400 on: March 13, 2008, 02:01:47 PM »

So we have Posner or Oduber...see why this is so hard to pin down? LOL
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« Reply #3401 on: March 13, 2008, 02:46:09 PM »

His Lordship=(possibly, presiding judge) *Sumerians=(Cartel, Mafia) *Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba *Arawaks=native Arubans .

Is His Lordship a Dutch official who just arrived in Aruba? ...

http://www.google.com/search
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« Reply #3402 on: March 13, 2008, 03:12:38 PM »

So we have Posner or Oduber...see why this is so hard to pin down? LOL


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed (Oduber)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon (polis, LE)
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because hand holding it dirty too.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:50 pm
This is bad. Really bad…He has a history of making himself be something he is not. (an Arawak)
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« Reply #3403 on: March 13, 2008, 03:14:09 PM »

His Lordship=(possibly, presiding judge) *Sumerians=(Cartel, Mafia) *Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba *Arawaks=native Arubans .

Is His Lordship a Dutch official who just arrived in Aruba? ...

http://www.google.com/search

re: Sumerian feat......feat is a judicial term.....made DirtyHand disappear (judicial feat-fee'-aht)
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« Reply #3404 on: March 13, 2008, 03:46:32 PM »

native Arubans=Indians
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« Reply #3405 on: March 13, 2008, 04:14:00 PM »

His Lordship=(possibly, presiding judge) *Sumerians=(Cartel, Mafia) *Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba *Arawaks=native Arubans .

Is His Lordship a Dutch official who just arrived in Aruba? ...

http://www.google.com/search

I think it is the judge that was flown in, and who released PVDS and SGC. This was a new judge. Simian was speculating that it may have something to do with DNA (The Key) being analyzed in holland. Probably the DNA taken from JVDS and Kalpoes on the 21th. or DNA found in a vehicle. The dna outcome was negative so the door to eden remained closed.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
Simian, His Lordship did not bring the key found in the car, it did not exist
The arawaks can’t open the door
Hope lies with the cowbous,
but the posse was too late
Eden is still distant

My translation:
Simian the judge did not bring new evidence (DNA from the car?) it was not there
The ALE won't get at the truth
Only hope is equusearch finding the body
They may be too late (Body has been moved?)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:32 pm
His lordship is there to preserve babylon
not the elder
remember dirtyhand!

The judge is there to protect the entire legal system
not PVDS as an individual
Remember dirtyhand

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun

The americans are only allowed so much liberty (They can't search everywhere?)
Arubans need food they had no income for 30 days????
Arubans are witholding witness/ other perpetrator(s)???
JVDS and Kalpoes will do
The judge prevents others being arrested or kept detained (He let PVDS and Croes go)
The DNA or evidence simian talked about(The package from the Hague) was a dud
The refrain(coverup has begun??)

my interpretation is as good as anyone's.

I started reading the posts on this page
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/26/
The whole lordship thing is in many cases a dialogue between shango, simian and the other posters
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« Reply #3406 on: March 13, 2008, 04:25:06 PM »

So who is his lordship?  Depends on what you think babylon means...if you think it means gamblers...as Simian said...then it is different answer from what it would be if babylon means the Dutch...so who is it? Anyone want to venture a guess....by offering a name?


If they have ever been under English rule sometimes the senior judges use the title lord.  Judges in high courts in India use Lordship.  Of course that goes for judges from England.  In pagan religions lorship is given to the higher up dudes.  In special courts such as courts of the Lyons lordship on king of arms.   

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« Reply #3407 on: March 13, 2008, 04:31:12 PM »

So who is his lordship?  Depends on what you think babylon means...if you think it means gamblers...as Simian said...then it is different answer from what it would be if babylon means the Dutch...so who is it? Anyone want to venture a guess....by offering a name?

There is a Baby Beach in Aruba.  Stands to reason there is a place called Babylon.  I think some of the final disposition took place at the south end of that island, after leaving the VDsloots.  The old ISA is down that way, southward, anyway.  jack b
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« Reply #3408 on: March 13, 2008, 05:03:56 PM »

So who is his lordship?  Depends on what you think babylon means...if you think it means gamblers...as Simian said...then it is different answer from what it would be if babylon means the Dutch...so who is it? Anyone want to venture a guess....by offering a name?

There is a Baby Beach in Aruba.  Stands to reason there is a place called Babylon.  I think some of the final disposition took place at the south end of that island, after leaving the VDsloots.  The old ISA is down that way, southward, anyway.  jack b

Please elaborate on the south end scenario...that theory has always grabbed my attention. TIA
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« Reply #3409 on: March 13, 2008, 06:54:08 PM »

So who is his lordship?  Depends on what you think babylon means...if you think it means gamblers...as Simian said...then it is different answer from what it would be if babylon means the Dutch...so who is it? Anyone want to venture a guess....by offering a name?

Well in fitting with my interpretation of what Babylon means i would venture to say his lordship might be Oduber?




Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian has an IQ of 149 as measured by Gringos.
All of the words of the cohorts of the boy and the Hindus have been hi-jacked. For weeks already. The confrontation of yesterday was brutal. More lies woven. The boy has to fall apart. The Babylonians have their swords ready
North American special interests have organized a human chain of prayers in Aruba. From the Wyndham to the Holiday Inn. Are afraid for their multi-million dollar investments? The Simian heard from the Gringos say they are doing OK. The bread won’t be taken from them. They will just sit this one out.
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« Reply #3410 on: March 13, 2008, 07:17:34 PM »

i think it is important to read all the shango, simian and other interesting post by ShocktheMonkey, checkme, Aenim and some others in relation to the thread they posted on and the events that unfolded that day or the one or two days preceding the date of these posts.

What i mean is for example that the 5th suspect discussion took place around the 21st-22nd of june. So anyone arrested or interrogated after that date can not be the fifth suspect.

the only problem is that there are thousands of posts and as some of you have mentioned posters posted on different threads on the same dates.

to get to a scaredmonkeys.com FP on a specific date use this url:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/25
change the 25 to go to FP articles on any day in june 2005
(probably known but anyway)

By just looking at shango's post for instance you don't get the whole picture as sometimes he states something he appears to know and at other times replies to simian or another poster.

Funny thing i noticed is that if you look at the times of the posts, shango and simian post at the exact same times a lot (too much to be a coincidence if you ask me) Also sometimes others pop up that seem to understand or to clarify what they are saying and after 2 or 3 posts never post again.

Some people brought forward the theory that Shango and Simian posted in riddles for fear of being discovered. These riddles have the exact opposite effect. They generate attention. IP's can be traced so why bother with the riddles? and why keep it up over a period of of give or take 10 days?

I think that to find meaning in these posts, assuming there is any we have to look at the events of the day the posts were made.

To make a long post even longer here is one i noticed by Rastafai Rabbi on June 27th, 2005 12:12 am
pretty knowlegeable for a one time poster



1. The Babylonians are the Dutch, the white man. The Arawaks are the Arubans. The black man. They cannot stand being ruled by the Dutch white man. They were hoping conviction of the father would bring the Dutch ruling house of cards to come tumbling down.

the struggle between the babylonians and the arawaks still remains hidden

the arawaks awaited the key

his lordship said no

the door to eden remains closed

they are preparing the fire


2. The new judge came in and released father Sloot in order to keep Dutch control over Aruba. If a white dutch judge is convicted of a crime there all hell will break loose in the Hague.



His lordship is there to preserve babylon

not the elder

remember dirtyhand!


3. Past tense for the Indian brothers and past tense for the Arubans who had been in contact with her at any time. Present tense for the Dutch who are holding her captive and alive (at this or some other time).



The shivas knew the girl

the arawaks new the girl

and the babylonians still know the girl



4. Dirty hand is not an Aruban but has been there from day one. Not like the Sloots.


DirtyHand is not an Arawak

Many pioneers have settled with the tribe


5. Released the Father today which would have set the domino effect of the outser of foreign invaders from Aruba. The Americans sense all of this but cannot figure it out yet.

The card of babylon was already played

if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation

the gods have handed down a pipe of peace, but a sacrifice will be made

Some elders of the game, not just of babylon walk in older circles

cowboys hear the singing, but the words are not understood

The gods and the babylonians are worried about the cowboys response

6. Local kids play with the younger Sloot children. Where are the younger children today. That or brothels where locals partake in the forbiden European pleasures.



Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

Are the children of the elders there, or did they flee to Babylon?

DirtyHand knows, this is his Power

there will be 46 sacrifices


7. Either the brother or the Sloot house. Where dirty hand watched or filmed.


You always find forbidden desires in the small houses of Babylon

the girl knew this

Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon.

But not to satiate desire



8. If they don’t find her tomorrow they never will. Oddly enough one of the rescuers said the same thing. Tomorrow or within 3 days based in there search site info



If the door to eden is to be opened with that key, it will be tomorrow

or forever remained closed



9. and who is dirty hand. the sloots gardner houseboy cook who hears and sees eveyrthing in that house


DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time



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« Reply #3411 on: March 13, 2008, 07:23:23 PM »

So who is his lordship?  Depends on what you think babylon means...if you think it means gamblers...as Simian said...then it is different answer from what it would be if babylon means the Dutch...so who is it? Anyone want to venture a guess....by offering a name?

Well in fitting with my interpretation of what Babylon means i would venture to say his lordship might be Oduber?




Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian has an IQ of 149 as measured by Gringos.
All of the words of the cohorts of the boy and the Hindus have been hi-jacked. For weeks already. The confrontation of yesterday was brutal. More lies woven. The boy has to fall apart. The Babylonians have their swords ready
North American special interests have organized a human chain of prayers in Aruba. From the Wyndham to the Holiday Inn. Are afraid for their multi-million dollar investments? The Simian heard from the Gringos say they are doing OK. The bread won’t be taken from them. They will just sit this one out.


Columbo what was the date of that simian post?
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« Reply #3412 on: March 13, 2008, 07:58:47 PM »

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:30 pm
Who knows what song the elder will sing (or should we say fallen judge)

[which song..........]
 

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
The shivas knew the girl
the arawaks new the girl
and the babylonians still know the girl
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« Reply #3413 on: March 13, 2008, 08:00:16 PM »

You always find forbidden desires in the small houses of Babylon

the girl knew this

Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon.

But not to satiate desire

[the reason.....]

DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time
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« Reply #3414 on: March 13, 2008, 08:12:54 PM »

1)    dirty hand:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders

Some elders of the game, not just of babylon walk in older circles

from pg 4:    Both pimps and prostitutes generally referred to their activities as “the game.”
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf


2) DirtyHand
Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house
where the children of the babylonians
and the arawak nation
meet
, under cover of delusion.

Shango Says:June 27th, 2005 at 4:00 am
Babalu knew who dirty hand was-polis
A sacrifice will be made to spare the polis
DirtyHand is the link (to pimps & arawak nation-LE, polis, gov't....remember dirty hand)
DirtyHand is the key
His reach is long (yeah, the long arm!)
He holds the real key!   (to eden-the poison house)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:58 pm
DirtyHand knows the Babylonians that provided escort after the 2 shivas left


3) Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:35 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
Many pioneers have settled with the tribe

but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:18 pm
If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s fetid depths.  (looks like they have!)



Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:11 am
All the Arawaks know the Maze which plays the poison songs

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.
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« Reply #3415 on: March 13, 2008, 08:15:05 PM »

DirtyHand=lowly minion......with access
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« Reply #3416 on: March 13, 2008, 08:44:26 PM »

Shango's story=loesge's post
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« Reply #3417 on: March 13, 2008, 08:50:07 PM »

arawaks and babylonians often fight........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSfBrw1Sxy0
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« Reply #3418 on: March 13, 2008, 09:45:49 PM »

DirtyHand=lowly minion......with access

PVDS?
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« Reply #3419 on: March 13, 2008, 10:07:34 PM »

DirtyHand=lowly minion......with access

PVDS?


Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:50 pm
This is bad. Really bad…He has a history of making himself be something he is not. (Arawak)

The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys

The Lamb and the elder are not the keystone in the Arch of Corruption.

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.
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