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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3580 on:
March 18, 2008, 06:11:02 AM »
Found this this morning...
The twentieth century brought with it cycles of boom and bust not that different from feast and famines of old, and when the automation of the 1950’s reached Aruba and threw people out of work, the government realized the disadvantages of a one-horse economy. It got worse, in 1984 the entire plant closed down. And in a piece of decisive action that still leaves politician-watchers breathless, the Arubans – a coalition of government and the business community – engineered a shift from oil dependency to tourism, taking the unemployment rate from 30% in 1985 to almost zero today. Spearheading this was the Prime Minister Henny Eman (the grandson) and local banker Juanho Enrique Irausquin. Irausquin, in the words of his friend Milton Henriquez,
"Looked at the beaches and didn’t see sand. He saw white gold."
http://www.internationalreports.net/theamericas/aruba/2002/diverse.html
Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA
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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3581 on:
March 18, 2008, 06:28:11 AM »
MsVada: quote
JMHO regarding the 5 exact posts......Back then when the site/server were really busy, there was some lagging happening, It is POSSIBLE that he/she posted, it took forever to show up or he/she thought it didn't post so re posted it.....before it finally showed up he/she had entered it several times. BACK THEN, nobody mentioned it as it seemed a once in a while occurence.
I don't post often anymore, but was a regular since the beginning. I do remember this happening to me, so I do think its possible it happened to Simian
AND, did anyone else pick up on the words "the thing is" ?? There was another poster who was not SImian that used that phrase a lot in their posts.
Lala’s: quote
Most likley he didn't see them posted. Sometimes it takes a little while to get them approved and maybe he missed seeing it the first time...if not...then I have no idea. LOL Unless...he was trying to get everyone's attention about those fires.
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JE…
You and I were having the same thoughts at the same time last night…Scary…too much time in the Shango thread, maybe?
Last night when I was reading the NG interview I remembered that the post I referred to was posted twice as well. (See post on the last page). These two posts are 40 minutes apart!
Seems Simian did it a lot…about Paulus’ arrest as well as these other two. He even posted the two about PVDS arrest on a different thread than he had been using a few hours earlier.
Hmmmm! If he was at work and got sidetracked he may not have remembered if he had posted the info, and possibly could not read back at times.
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JE
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3582 on:
March 18, 2008, 08:06:32 AM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on March 17, 2008, 09:25:59 PM
quote
Simian on June 24th, 2005 5:57 pm
The waters are low. The street are full. The night of Saint John. The fires will burn all around on the island. The smoke will clear tomorrow morning.
I’m leaving…[/i]
sounds like an interrogation:
Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:59 pm
The fires burned high and bright.
Even Saint John denied he knew.
The smoke will clear soon.
The elder can’t deny. The son can’t talk. He is biting off his tongue. His sore and bloody tongue.
In dutch Saint John = Sint
Jan
(or Johannes de doper/John the baptist)
couldn't be a reference to Jan vd S could it?
still don't know what's with the fires. Shango mentions them at least 10 times
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JE
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3583 on:
March 18, 2008, 08:12:17 AM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on March 18, 2008, 06:28:11 AM
MsVada: quote
JMHO regarding the 5 exact posts......Back then when the site/server were really busy, there was some lagging happening, It is POSSIBLE that he/she posted, it took forever to show up or he/she thought it didn't post so re posted it.....before it finally showed up he/she had entered it several times. BACK THEN, nobody mentioned it as it seemed a once in a while occurence.
I don't post often anymore, but was a regular since the beginning. I do remember this happening to me, so I do think its possible it happened to Simian
AND, did anyone else pick up on the words "the thing is" ?? There was another poster who was not SImian that used that phrase a lot in their posts.
Lala’s: quote
Most likley he didn't see them posted. Sometimes it takes a little while to get them approved and maybe he missed seeing it the first time...if not...then I have no idea. LOL Unless...he was trying to get everyone's attention about those fires.
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JE…
You and I were having the same thoughts at the same time last night…Scary…too much time in the Shango thread, maybe?
Last night when I was reading the NG interview I remembered that the post I referred to was posted twice as well. (See post on the last page). These two posts are 40 minutes apart!
Seems Simian did it a lot…about Paulus’ arrest as well as these other two. He even posted the two about PVDS arrest on a different thread than he had been using a few hours earlier.
Hmmmm! If he was at work and got sidetracked he may not have remembered if he had posted the info, and possibly could not read back at times.
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JE
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3584 on:
March 18, 2008, 08:18:34 AM »
Quote from: JE on March 18, 2008, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on March 18, 2008, 06:28:11 AM
MsVada: quote
JMHO regarding the 5 exact posts......Back then when the site/server were really busy, there was some lagging happening, It is POSSIBLE that he/she posted, it took forever to show up or he/she thought it didn't post so re posted it.....before it finally showed up he/she had entered it several times. BACK THEN, nobody mentioned it as it seemed a once in a while occurence.
I don't post often anymore, but was a regular since the beginning. I do remember this happening to me, so I do think its possible it happened to Simian
AND, did anyone else pick up on the words "the thing is" ?? There was another poster who was not SImian that used that phrase a lot in their posts.
Lala’s: quote
Most likley he didn't see them posted. Sometimes it takes a little while to get them approved and maybe he missed seeing it the first time...if not...then I have no idea. LOL Unless...he was trying to get everyone's attention about those fires.
++++
JE…
You and I were having the same thoughts at the same time last night…Scary…too much time in the Shango thread, maybe?
Last night when I was reading the NG interview I remembered that the post I referred to was posted twice as well. (See post on the last page). These two posts are 40 minutes apart!
Seems Simian did it a lot…about Paulus’ arrest as well as these other two. He even posted the two about PVDS arrest on a different thread than he had been using a few hours earlier.
Hmmmm! If he was at work and got sidetracked he may not have remembered if he had posted the info, and possibly could not read back at times.
Srry messed up last post
The server thing may be true, but the first three posts were made within 2 minutes of each other. The are not word for word the same ( not copy/pasted IMO) so he must be an extremely fast typer. 2 minutes would hardly even give him time to see if his message was even posted. He says he will drive past the reservoir 4 times and in his last post he says the water is low (as if he actually went there and checked) Post nr 5 was 9 min later.????
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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3585 on:
March 18, 2008, 08:49:55 AM »
Quote from: JE on March 18, 2008, 08:06:32 AM
Quote from: COLOMBO on March 17, 2008, 09:25:59 PM
quote
Simian on June 24th, 2005 5:57 pm
The waters are low. The street are full. The night of Saint John. The fires will burn all around on the island. The smoke will clear tomorrow morning.
I’m leaving…[/i]
sounds like an interrogation:
Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:59 pm
The fires burned high and bright.
Even Saint John denied he knew.
The smoke will clear soon.
The elder can’t deny. The son can’t talk. He is biting off his tongue. His sore and bloody tongue.
In dutch Saint John = Sint
Jan
(or Johannes de doper/John the baptist)
couldn't be a reference to Jan vd S could it?
still don't know what's with the fires. Shango mentions them at least 10 times
Sounds quite possible to me JE....it appears a few of the posters were Dutch or of Dutch descent.
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truthseeker2
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3586 on:
March 18, 2008, 10:20:18 AM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on March 18, 2008, 06:11:02 AM
Found this this morning...
The twentieth century brought with it cycles of boom and bust not that different from feast and famines of old, and when the automation of the 1950’s reached Aruba and threw people out of work, the government realized the disadvantages of a one-horse economy. It got worse, in 1984 the entire plant closed down. And in a piece of decisive action that still leaves politician-watchers breathless, the Arubans – a coalition of government and the business community – engineered a shift from oil dependency to tourism, taking the unemployment rate from 30% in 1985 to almost zero today. Spearheading this was the Prime Minister Henny Eman (the grandson) and local banker Juanho Enrique Irausquin. Irausquin, in the words of his friend Milton Henriquez,
"Looked at the beaches and didn’t see sand. He saw white gold."
http://www.internationalreports.net/theamericas/aruba/2002/diverse.html
Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA
Yes! I have saying just that for the last two years.
When a FP poster offered a quess that Shango was talking about a country house off the beaten path that had many rooms where different things could happen I did not interpret Shango's response to be a definitive 'yes' to the poster. I believe Shango indicated that the poster was 'close' to understanding when he said they had opened windows looking into the heart of Babylon.
The straight path is the beach - the man made beaches - which cost a great deal of money - gold brick - to build. Not to mention the amount spent on the hotels and casinos.
I'm not sure that 'house of Rave' is one particular place, but more a group or society or organization that establshes the boundaries and participants of the 'game'. As I posted before - Royal House is not a 'place' nor is 'House of Babylon'. Seems likely that Shango would use the same esoteric prose when he uses 'House of Rave'.
Now...when he posted:
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the
Music
and enter the same
Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The DiceMen
ROLLED
Mary
ROLLED
The word I have highlighted in red stand out to me. Music and Maze appear in this post to be proper nouns identifying a place, person or specific organization.
The term 'ROLLED' is in all caps...for emphasis. The urban dictionary had a few interesting definitions. One refers to the effects of using ecstacy. Several referred to getting beaten, as in losing a game. For example: "I got rolled in poker and lost my shirt. If the term is used by the winner it would be "I rolled that dude so bad he didn't know how he was going to tell his wife he lost their house!"
As for the mysterious answers and magical letters I would find it odd that everything else Shango posts is cryptic to a degree, yet XTC and DNA on the surface seem to be very straight forward. So....back to wondering what those letters REALLY mean.
These are just the things I think about when reading the Shango posts. I don't spend much time on Simian anymore.
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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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March 18, 2008, 01:01:33 PM »
Lala’s
…do you remember anything about the Rainbow Warriors?…A Milton Ponson…is he the father of the of the 2 guys from the Racquet Club? An older woman tied in there as well. Could be the Mom.
Buckeye just posted about the Rainbow Warriors and I recognized the name. There was discussion early on in this thread before I started posting here. I will go back later and see if I can find the posts…just thought you may have a quick answer.(that darned Racquet Club again)...LOL
TIA
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COLOMBO
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3588 on:
March 18, 2008, 02:14:35 PM »
Quote from: truthseeker2 on March 18, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on March 18, 2008, 06:11:02 AM
Found this this morning...
The twentieth century brought with it cycles of boom and bust not that different from feast and famines of old, and when the automation of the 1950’s reached Aruba and threw people out of work, the government realized the disadvantages of a one-horse economy. It got worse, in 1984 the entire plant closed down. And in a piece of decisive action that still leaves politician-watchers breathless, the Arubans – a coalition of government and the business community – engineered a shift from oil dependency to tourism, taking the unemployment rate from 30% in 1985 to almost zero today. Spearheading this was the Prime Minister Henny Eman (the grandson) and local banker Juanho Enrique Irausquin. Irausquin, in the words of his friend Milton Henriquez,
"Looked at the beaches and didn’t see sand. He saw white gold."
http://www.internationalreports.net/theamericas/aruba/2002/diverse.html
Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA
Yes! I have saying just that for the last two years.
When a FP poster offered a quess that Shango was talking about a country house off the beaten path that had many rooms where different things could happen I did not interpret Shango's response to be a definitive 'yes' to the poster. I believe Shango indicated that the poster was 'close' to understanding when he said they had opened windows looking into the heart of Babylon.
The straight path is the beach - the man made beaches - which cost a great deal of money - gold brick - to build. Not to mention the amount spent on the hotels and casinos.
I'm not sure that 'house of Rave' is one particular place, but more a group or society or organization that establshes the boundaries and participants of the 'game'. As I posted before - Royal House is not a 'place' nor is 'House of Babylon'. Seems likely that Shango would use the same esoteric prose when he uses 'House of Rave'.
Now...when he posted:
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the
Music
and enter the same
Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The DiceMen
ROLLED
Mary
ROLLED
The word I have highlighted in red stand out to me. Music and Maze appear in this post to be proper nouns identifying a place, person or specific organization.
The term 'ROLLED' is in all caps...for emphasis. The urban dictionary had a few interesting definitions. One refers to the effects of using ecstacy. Several referred to getting beaten, as in losing a game. For example: "I got rolled in poker and lost my shirt. If the term is used by the winner it would be "I rolled that dude so bad he didn't know how he was going to tell his wife he lost their house!"
As for the mysterious answers and magical letters I would find it odd that everything else Shango posts is cryptic to a degree, yet XTC and DNA on the surface seem to be very straight forward. So....back to wondering what those letters REALLY mean.
These are just the things I think about when reading the Shango posts. I don't spend much time on Simian anymore.
remember the gamblers??? high-ROLLED???
other rollers talk????
dicemen.net
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COLOMBO
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3589 on:
March 18, 2008, 02:17:39 PM »
All:
the straight path is the path to the maze (why did the girl owe money?)
about the house (with the path)
while of gold bricks (those honey laden note$)
the road is not paved (poison note$)
note=loan (line of credit?)
the gamblers also took note
all the gamblers knew was written down
they knew the girl (who owed money)
she spent her nights at their tables
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COLOMBO
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3590 on:
March 18, 2008, 02:52:43 PM »
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:57 pm
All know of the music
beckoning lost souls
to enter the seven levels of inferno
who gave Mary the poison wine of Bacchus?
Enter the Maze.
http://www.ludeboyrecords.com/bands.html
The Dicemen aim for total world domination. But if that's aiming too high this irresistible trio will be satisfied by making a lot of shows by spilling blood, sweat, and tears. Their own special blend of psychobilly is influenced by punk rock, rock & roll, rockabilly, hardcore, and death metal. The band is currently touring around Europe to
infect poor innocent souls
with their dirty power rock'n roll.
As long as it stinks like sweat, tastes like beer and innocent girls fall to their knees when hearing the straight from the heart music, these Dicemen will conquer!
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:33 pm
Follow the music
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The DiceMen ROLLED
Mary ROLLED
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:23 pm
Follow the music
into the maze
the lions know they are being stalked
the gamblers and other Rollers talk
tell the cowboys!
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Lala'sMom
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3591 on:
March 18, 2008, 07:15:55 PM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on March 18, 2008, 01:01:33 PM
Lala’s
…do you remember anything about the Rainbow Warriors?…A Milton Ponson…is he the father of the of the 2 guys from the Racquet Club? An older woman tied in there as well. Could be the Mom.
Buckeye just posted about the Rainbow Warriors and I recognized the name. There was discussion early on in this thread before I started posting here. I will go back later and see if I can find the posts…just thought you may have a quick answer.(that darned Racquet Club again)...LOL
TIA
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2258.0
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Lala'sMom
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3592 on:
March 18, 2008, 07:17:09 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on March 18, 2008, 02:52:43 PM
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:57 pm
All know of the music
beckoning lost souls
to enter the seven levels of inferno
who gave Mary the poison wine of Bacchus?
Enter the Maze.
http://www.ludeboyrecords.com/bands.html
The Dicemen aim for total world domination. But if that's aiming too high this irresistible trio will be satisfied by making a lot of shows by spilling blood, sweat, and tears. Their own special blend of psychobilly is influenced by punk rock, rock & roll, rockabilly, hardcore, and death metal. The band is currently touring around Europe to
infect poor innocent souls
with their dirty power rock'n roll.
As long as it stinks like sweat, tastes like beer and innocent girls fall to their knees when hearing the straight from the heart music, these Dicemen will conquer!
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:33 pm
Follow the music
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The DiceMen ROLLED
Mary ROLLED
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:23 pm
Follow the music
into the maze
the lions know they are being stalked
the gamblers and other Rollers talk
tell the cowboys!
Which leads me to a question I have asked before. Where is the Maze?
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Lala'sMom
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Reply #3593 on:
March 18, 2008, 07:19:40 PM »
And before someone asks about Lorenzo...here is the Race Junkies link.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1291.0
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Lala'sMom
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Reply #3594 on:
March 18, 2008, 07:22:05 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on March 18, 2008, 02:17:39 PM
All:
the straight path is the path to the maze (why did the girl owe money?)
about the house (with the path)
while of gold bricks (those honey laden note$)
the road is not paved (poison note$)
note=loan (line of credit?)
the gamblers also took note
all the gamblers knew was written down
they knew the girl (who owed money)
she spent her nights at their tables
One more question...who is the girl that owed money? We know it was not Natalee. Isn't that a contradiction in Shango's theory? Was he/she mistaken?
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3595 on:
March 18, 2008, 10:04:42 PM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on March 18, 2008, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on March 18, 2008, 02:17:39 PM
All:
the straight path is the path to the maze (why did the girl owe money?)
about the house (with the path)
while of gold bricks (those honey laden note$)
the road is not paved (poison note$)
note=loan (line of credit?)
the gamblers also took note
all the gamblers knew was written down
they knew the girl (who owed money)
she spent her nights at their tables
One more question...who is the girl that owed money? We know it was not Natalee. Isn't that a contradiction in Shango's theory? Was he/she mistaken?
Did they have the wrong girl?
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Reply #3596 on:
March 19, 2008, 04:27:54 AM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on March 18, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
And before someone asks about Lorenzo...here is the Race Junkies link.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1291.0
I gotta ask about Lorenzo
OK, I've seen it posted/discussed numerous times:
he was questioned/Maxito Arendsz was questioned
Max co-signed his home-all-night alibi
I thought this happened on successive days:
either june 16/17 or june 17/18
this set of facts/sequence of events is burned into my brain
our team posted that Lorenzo's property underwent massive search ...
opposing team posted the same thing
but tonight I read thru that discovery docs link ...
didn't see Max Arendsz at all ...
saw Lorenzo's interro listed as june 28 ...
didn't see a search documented
so, am I one key lime krispy kreme short of a dozen?
or what?
any help would be much appreciated/TIA
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #3597 on:
March 19, 2008, 06:31:14 AM »
Quote from: hotping on March 18, 2008, 10:04:42 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on March 18, 2008, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on March 18, 2008, 02:17:39 PM
All:
the straight path is the path to the maze (why did the girl owe money?)
about the house (with the path)
while of gold bricks (those honey laden note$)
the road is not paved (poison note$)
note=loan (line of credit?)
the gamblers also took note
all the gamblers knew was written down
they knew the girl (who owed money)
she spent her nights at their tables
One more question...who is the girl that owed money? We know it was not Natalee. Isn't that a contradiction in Shango's theory? Was he/she mistaken?
Did they have the wrong girl?
This has been touched on in the thread before, it's still in the back of my mind. There was discussion in the NAH thread about 6 weeks back, could have been longer, with a photo and a girl that looked a lot like Natalee...Virginia Page. ******* had posted the photo and the rumors about it.
Will see if I can find it here as I posted the link to the discussion on the main thread.
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Quote from: MumInOhio on February 09, 2008, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 09, 2008, 07:32:03 PM
Mum
Do you remember the conversation about Ruffner Page from the NAH thread a few weeks ago? HI daughter is Virginia and there was speculation that she would have been the most likley target if there was a planned kidnapping? Could you use your magical powers and find out about this again for me? TIA
Lala's...here's the link...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.180
Bringing forward...oh my...what one can find with an index...
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Quote from: finngirl on March 19, 2008, 04:27:54 AM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on March 18, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
And before someone asks about Lorenzo...here is the Race Junkies link.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1291.0
I gotta ask about Lorenzo
OK, I've seen it posted/discussed numerous times:
he was questioned/Maxito Arendsz was questioned
Max co-signed his home-all-night alibi
I thought this happened on successive days:
either june 16/17 or june 17/18
this set of facts/sequence of events is burned into my brain
our team posted that Lorenzo's property underwent massive search ...
opposing team posted the same thing
but tonight I read thru that discovery docs link ...
didn't see Max Arendsz at all ...
saw Lorenzo's interro listed as june 28 ...
didn't see a search documented
so, am I one key lime krispy kreme short of a dozen?
or what?
any help would be much appreciated/TIA
Please remember, the discovery log pertains to documents that the Kalpos stated, that they have, in response to specific interrogatories from Dr. Phil. I am not sure that all documents/statements related to Joran (and his case) have been seen or are part of the Kalpo dossier.
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