SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[COLOMBO]

seems some folks claimed they were at his house with him......sometimes friends will cover for each other

[COLOMBO]

is there mention of the 5th suspect after Simian refers to PVDS by name?

[Tibrogargan]

Lala’s…do you remember anything about the Rainbow Warriors?…A Milton Ponson…is he the father of the of the 2 guys from the Racquet Club? An older woman tied in there as well. Could be the Mom.

Buckeye just posted about the Rainbow Warriors and I recognized the name. There was discussion early on in this thread before I started posting here. I will go back later and see if I can find the posts…just thought you may have a quick answer.(that darned Racquet Club again)...LOL

TIA

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2258.0

 

It seems someone wrote very recently that Freddy's mom had some kind of directorhip at the recquet club.   j/b

It was me jackb...but it was SC Bubali and it was checked out the other night on the main thread and she is no longer listed on the list of businesses.

I have a post that said that she was listed as Dutch on an earlier list and wanted to verify it.

Now I am going with Dutch, as the poster read it and would have no reason to say otherwise when she posted a link with this info on it.

By the way...the Grandfather of Aruban tennis is Venezuelan, Humphrey Hose...who would have guessed!

  I did not make the "It's me Jackb quote."  If someone uses my name again to quote, I will mess your computer up so bad you will NEVER have use for it again.  Do it as you will.  I don't put up with that crap.  This IS me Jackb

Jackb - this is a warning. Next time you will be put on a timeout.  I suggest you read more carefully and think before posting rediculous threats ... SHE WAS RESPONDING TO YOU, NOT IMPERSONATING YOU(klaasend)

What a charming post, jackb.   

I hope your next post will be an apology directed personally to this hard working monkey who spends many hours of her day searching and researching details to enlighten all those who struggle to decipher these cryptic posts.  She comes up with some very pertinent and interesting facts, far ahead of the preposterous claims made in some of your rambling efforts.

It is an unwritten rule on blogs to attack the post and not the poster.
I have seen posters banned from blogs for a lot less than your comments above.

[JE]

seems some folks claimed they were at his house with him......sometimes friends will cover for each other

At the house of the 5th suspect not at the house of PVDS specifically

[COLOMBO]

seems some folks claimed they were at his house with him......sometimes friends will cover for each other

At the house of the 5th suspect not at the house of PVDS specifically

5th said he was home with some friends until the morning

the partygoers need to be pinched (perjury?)

[JE]

Lala’s…do you remember anything about the Rainbow Warriors?…A Milton Ponson…is he the father of the of the 2 guys from the Racquet Club? An older woman tied in there as well. Could be the Mom.

Buckeye just posted about the Rainbow Warriors and I recognized the name. There was discussion early on in this thread before I started posting here. I will go back later and see if I can find the posts…just thought you may have a quick answer.(that darned Racquet Club again)...LOL

TIA

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2258.0

 

It seems someone wrote very recently that Freddy's mom had some kind of directorhip at the recquet club.   j/b

It was me jackb...but it was SC Bubali and it was checked out the other night on the main thread and she is no longer listed on the list of businesses.

I have a post that said that she was listed as Dutch on an earlier list and wanted to verify it.

Now I am going with Dutch, as the poster read it and would have no reason to say otherwise when she posted a link with this info on it.

By the way...the Grandfather of Aruban tennis is Venezuelan, Humphrey Hose...who would have guessed!

  I did not make the "It's me Jackb quote."  If someone uses my name again to quote, I will mess your computer up so bad you will NEVER have use for it again.  Do it as you will.  I don't put up with that crap.  This IS me Jackb

Jackb - this is a warning. Next time you will be put on a timeout.  I suggest you read more carefully and think before posting rediculous threats ... SHE WAS RESPONDING TO YOU, NOT IMPERSONATING YOU(klaasend)

What a charming post, jackb.   

I hope your next post will be an apology directed personally to this hard working monkey who spends many hours of her day searching and researching details to enlighten all those who struggle to decipher these cryptic posts.  She comes up with some very pertinent and interesting facts, far ahead of the preposterous claims made in some of your rambling efforts.

It is an unwritten rule on blogs to attack the post and not the poster.
I have seen posters banned from blogs for a lot less than your comments above.

I support that apology is required (hope my computer lives)

[Tibrogargan]

curiously, Simian does not use PVDS name until he knew (IMO) that it would hit the news:

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day

He had to be let go  is the 5th suspect that is not mentioned by name.

From what i saw in a Nova interview PVDS said he took time off from his job himself. So as not to be thought of as a person with a conflict of interest. Judging by the chronological order of arrests he was indeed the 5th suspect. But for the life of me i just can't fit in the cool and crazy guy and him being the host of the party. Unless the party is supposed to mean the tragic chain of events. But then he is still not the cool and crazy guy

FWIW - the time difference between Paulus' suspension on 17th and Simian's post on the 22nd leads me to believe that it is another person to which Simian refers.

[JE]

seems some folks claimed they were at his house with him......sometimes friends will cover for each other

At the house of the 5th suspect not at the house of PVDS specifically

5th said he was home with some friends until the morning

the partygoers need to be pinched (perjury?)

You got a point there. I read on the renevannie.com site (all in dutch) that at the time of PVDS first interrogation he places this on the 18th there was a high ranked official from the dutch OM staying at the VDS house. But still it is hard to believe that they would cover for him. Were his wherabouts ever questioned to such a degree as to need an alibi?

[Buckeye]

curiously, Simian does not use PVDS name until he knew (IMO) that it would hit the news:

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day

He had to be let go  is the 5th suspect that is not mentioned by name.

From what i saw in a Nova interview PVDS said he took time off from his job himself. So as not to be thought of as a person with a conflict of interest. Judging by the chronological order of arrests he was indeed the 5th suspect. But for the life of me i just can't fit in the cool and crazy guy and him being the host of the party. Unless the party is supposed to mean the tragic chain of events. But then he is still not the cool and crazy guy

Paulus and Anita did an interview on CNN?, August 2005.  Paulus explained his call to the court so it would not appear to be a conflict of interest.  The reporter asked about being out of work since this started.  Paulus responded he has "been working from home".  He was not let go...IMO

[COLOMBO]

curiously, Simian does not use PVDS name until he knew (IMO) that it would hit the news:

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day

He had to be let go  is the 5th suspect that is not mentioned by name.

From what i saw in a Nova interview PVDS said he took time off from his job himself. So as not to be thought of as a person with a conflict of interest. Judging by the chronological order of arrests he was indeed the 5th suspect. But for the life of me i just can't fit in the cool and crazy guy and him being the host of the party. Unless the party is supposed to mean the tragic chain of events. But then he is still not the cool and crazy guy

FWIW - the time difference between Paulus' suspension on 17th and Simian's post on the 22nd leads me to believe that it is another person to which Simian refers.

He had to be let go

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 2:30 pm
Paulus has been picked up.

[Buckeye]

seems some folks claimed they were at his house with him......sometimes friends will cover for each other

At the house of the 5th suspect not at the house of PVDS specifically

5th said he was home with some friends until the morning

the partygoers need to be pinched (perjury?)

You got a point there. I read on the renevannie.com site (all in dutch) that at the time of PVDS first interrogation he places this on the 18th there was a high ranked official from the dutch OM staying at the VDS house. But still it is hard to believe that they would cover for him. Were his wherabouts ever questioned to such a degree as to need an alibi?

In hind site, there could have been knowledge of the casino video and two witnesses to a four o'clock pick up time and wiretaps.  Might have needed a "powerful person" alibi to get past all that....

[Lala'sMom]

PLEASE!! Let's read Simian in context...there are things in some of the quotes above that is not in the original quote...let's read it together. There is no mention of Paulus in this conversation of Simian's...the place I pulled that quote from was a site that I have access to and that about PVDS is simply a comment from the poster that is thinking along the same lines as Colombo...I like to read it as it was originally written.  Thanks.



#  Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:09 pm

A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.



# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 5:11 pm

Was the lover on the trip??


# Stefe McHearthy on June 22nd, 2005 5:12 pm

@ MOFOfromMO
You know it is exactly on topic.
Do what you feel is right.



# rem05 on June 22nd, 2005 5:12 pm

Sim -Surely your not saying a local MT brook boyfriend would be involved in this, would you.


# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:13 pm

A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.


# rem05 on June 22nd, 2005 5:14 pm

Sim -I think your reaching



# Jake on June 22nd, 2005 5:15 pm

How could a local MT boyfriend be involved. The FBI would have cracked this case already through phone records and the internet. I don’t believe this. This is yet ANOTHER rumor!


# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:16 pm

He had to be let go.


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:16 pm

Does seem a little far fetched.


# born 2 b wild on June 22nd, 2005 5:17 pm

I love the cock fighting that goes on in this blog -complete w/razor blades attached to the spurs

We should take odds on the hour for the latest round

Right now we got Stefe in this corner and MOM from MO (the “show me MOM”) in that corner

p.s: checkme - check this



# Kristin on June 22nd, 2005 5:17 pm

COUNTRY MOON:

Thank you for taking the time to come on and talk to us. We appreciate your time, even though we can’t imagine how hard this must be for you and your community-we do understand. We all have been pretty caught up in this case, it’s tearing everyone apart. People have been listening to the news, radio and checking online forums faithfully. We all want Natalee to be safe, and we all understand that there is more to the story. As typical Americans though, we don’t understand WHY we can’t hear the truth. We know that Mrs. Twitty is keeping it together for SOME reason other than the simple hope of Natalee being alive. She has to KNOW that she is alive. Any information that we hear is helpful…and just the fact that you say OUTLOUD that there is more to the story keeps us all hanging on. It is hard to try and justify what Natalee is really like, when we don’t know her and we hear all of the rumors. It would help us all to understand MORE if we knew if Natalee has dissapeared before. But as you said, you probably can’t answer that.
I figured I would give it a shot anyways, and if you still can’t answer, I respect that.
Do you believe that she is alive but in another country?


# sunny71 on June 22nd, 2005 5:17 pm

Some insight from a local:
the coverage of this case is ridiculous, but I can understand the fixation on the ‘exoticness’ of this case, what with the weird Aruban laws and all.
Fact is, the police here has every interest in getting this thing resolved asap, if only because of the negative publicity.
The investigators screwed up in the beginning, because vdSloot Sr. is well known in those circles and they took Jr.’s story at face value at first. Understandable under the circumstances, but stupid in hindsight.
Jr. would have confessed a long time ago if he had done it. Interrogations by the local police are not a walk in the park for the suspects, as some of you might think. Aruban police knows a thing or two about pressuring a suspect.
My question is: did NH go back to her hotelroom and sneak out that night and are her roommates keeping mum about that? Just a thought.
I think Steve Croes and the Kalpoe’s should be the focus.



# Jake on June 22nd, 2005 5:17 pm

Good try Sim….I hope this story (rumor) breaks tonight. That will mean more air time for the Natalee Case!!!



# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:18 pm

Sim - again is this your theory or something more concrete?
# MOMfromMO on June 22nd, 2005 5:19 pm

Hey Sim?

Didn’t you mention earlier that when you were ‘awaiting moderation’, that it occurred when you typed (the word for a place to gamble)???


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:20 pm

Kristin - Country seemed to discount that earlier that she had been kidnapped and was possibly on another island - she seemed to point the finger at Van Der Sloot.
# MOMfromMO on June 22nd, 2005 5:21 pm

Born 2 B Wild:

Now, don’t get excited. I’m not in any corner, cuz I don’t humor TROLLS for long.

Besides, I’ve already flushed him down the commode with the rest of his little ‘brown friends’.

***Whhhhaaaa-Shhhhhhhhhh***



# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:22 pm

This is not my theory. This is for real.


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:23 pm

Sim - I will give you your props if it proves correct.


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:25 pm

Sim - let me get this right - seriously - you are saying NH’s ex killed her on the trip and the friends are covering up that he did this? Hence giving him an airtight alibi as you say.



# Jake on June 22nd, 2005 5:25 pm

crs- can you put together a small little paragraph on the latest theory from Sim.


# rem05 on June 22nd, 2005 5:25 pm

Sim - You have lost me!!


# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 5:25 pm

Sunny 71
I do not know if it is true, but about 12 days ago it was reported that the roomates had not worried because she had only slept in the room the first night. Did not say if she had slept at other friends’ or elsewhere.


# Kristin on June 22nd, 2005 5:25 pm

Seriously guys, what are we talking about? WHO is suspect # 5? AND, something along these lines WOULD make sense, seeing as how everyone in Aruba knows whats going on and they all seem calm about it. If Joran really did something to Natalee, you think Mrs. Twitty would be hugging his mother and being friendly with his Dad? NO. I don’t care how nice she is, she wouldn’t do that.

Thanks CRS for being so helpful.
GOD-WHAT is going on??? And WHEN are we going to find out????????????


# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:26 pm

The alibi story is the almost the latest.

The latest is that there’s a gap in the time-line for the boys.

It is true that one of them tried to off himself.


# Midway on June 22nd, 2005 5:26 pm

Joran’s probably innocent


# MOMfromMO on June 22nd, 2005 5:28 pm

I’m outtie, folks. Have a great evening..Thank you everyone, for all the updates!!

Peace out.


# Checkme on June 22nd, 2005 5:28 pm

Simian is late with facts and wring with his speculations.



# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 5:28 pm

Kristin
Mrts. Twiggy didn’t hug Mrs. Van Der Sloot. Mrs. Van Der Sloot kissed Mrs. Twiggy on the cheek, as she left her house.



# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.



#  crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

Sim - your not making any sense- on the one hand you seem to be saying an ex killed NH and on the other hand you are back talking about the boys - why would one of the boys try and kill himself if he is being framed?



# rem05 on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

elaborate Checkme


# Midway on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

The two security guards set Joran up



# Jake on June 22nd, 2005 5:30 pm

But who is the ex-boyfriend? Is he someone from the US, or did Natalee meet him in Aruba? Who is Van Rijn?



# Rob on June 22nd, 2005 5:30 pm

Sim,

Was this #5 perhaps someone Joran was having a confrontation with in C&C’s?


# pdl on June 22nd, 2005 5:30 pm

Mrs. Twitty after leaving the Van Der Sloot’s home said that she felt sure there would be more arrests leading me to think that she is being held somewhere by others.



# Trisher on June 22nd, 2005 5:30 pm

He said the ex was at “home.” He said the 5th had an alibi - that is not necessarily the ex.



# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:30 pm

Checkme- that is what i figured as you have by far been the most accurate and I am with you on your theory.


# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 5:31 pm

Checkme
Please put us up-to-date.


# rem05 on June 22nd, 2005 5:31 pm

Sim is saying that her ex’s friends had something to do with this, her ex was back in alabama, right Sim



# concerned4natalee on June 22nd, 2005 5:31 pm

DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLUE HERE?



# concerned4natalee on June 22nd, 2005 5:32 pm

WHO’S THE 5TH PERSON??



# rem05 on June 22nd, 2005 5:33 pm

Concerned - Ask Sim, he’s like my mom, he knows everything.



# Stefe McHearthy on June 22nd, 2005 5:33 pm

@ MOFOfromMO

Think, it is your life!
Please be blesseth!



# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 5:33 pm

Checkme and Simian
This is it for you guys. You need to deliver something, since you have created all this expectation

[Lala'sMom]

FYI for those that need to know this:  I don't own this thread but, I have spent a great deal of time in it and should anyone feel the need to berate or insult any of our loyal posters in here that have spent countless hours researching and posting...take it up with me next time.  I am the Hall Monitor and I guarantee you I don't back down...that is why I am here after all this time. 

[COLOMBO]

 Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.



I believe he used the word "affair"

[Lala'sMom]

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.



I believe he used the word "affair"

Colombo, please provide the proof of the meeting between Natalee and Paulus prior to the night in question.  Also, show me where Paulus hosted a party.  That is the real sticking point...we never can prove a party...ever.  I don't think Natalee would even look in Paulus direction...he had to coax her in the casino video to even speak to him...so as of now I still don't buy it.  Natalee was not interested in Paulus van der Sloot.  No way!  Now she might look twice at GVC.  If she was interested in Paulus...I truly think one of her friends would have known.  But I will reserve a space just in case we find evidence in support of your theory. 

[COLOMBO]

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.



I believe he used the word "affair"

Colombo, please provide the proof of the meeting between Natalee and Paulus prior to the night in question.  Also, show me where Paulus hosted a party.  That is the real sticking point...we never can prove a party...ever.  I don't think Natalee would even look in Paulus direction...he had to coax her in the casino video to even speak to him...so as of now I still don't buy it.  Natalee was not interested in Paulus van der Sloot.  No way!  Now she might look twice at GVC.  If she was interested in Paulus...I truly think one of her friends would have known.  But I will reserve a space just in case we find evidence in support of your theory. 

ok-the sticking point....no party(IMO).......sometimes friends will cover for each other

the partygoers need to be pinched (for perjury?)

[hotping]

Hi Caps! How's it going in Your part of the world....I hope all is well! 

[Lala'sMom]

Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:29 pm

I did not say an ex. Do you people read? I not into repeating myself.



I believe he used the word "affair"

Colombo, please provide the proof of the meeting between Natalee and Paulus prior to the night in question.  Also, show me where Paulus hosted a party.  That is the real sticking point...we never can prove a party...ever.  I don't think Natalee would even look in Paulus direction...he had to coax her in the casino video to even speak to him...so as of now I still don't buy it.  Natalee was not interested in Paulus van der Sloot.  No way!  Now she might look twice at GVC.  If she was interested in Paulus...I truly think one of her friends would have known.  But I will reserve a space just in case we find evidence in support of your theory. 

ok-the sticking point....no party(IMO).......sometimes friends will cover for each other

the partygoers need to be pinched (for perjury?)

Ahhh!  Those darn sticking points have tripped me up often. LOL   Parts seem to fit various people at different times, only nothing fits everyone all of the time.  I thought LVR and even Caps agreed until we could not get the "met in the casino" part to fit. LOL  Then Freddy fit so well...but still trying to place him in the caisno also.  He did hang with Joran and that is one thing we can't establish with GVC.  But GVC was seen with Natalee.  I can on and on about all of our suspected 5th suspects.  A piece here and a piece there...we will figure this out... too many smart people in here not to.

[jackb]

curiously, Simian does not use PVDS name until he knew (IMO) that it would hit the news:

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day

He had to be let go  is the 5th suspect that is not mentioned by name.

From what i saw in a Nova interview PVDS said he took time off from his job himself. So as not to be thought of as a person with a conflict of interest. Judging by the chronological order of arrests he was indeed the 5th suspect. But for the life of me i just can't fit in the cool and crazy guy and him being the host of the party. Unless the party is supposed to mean the tragic chain of events. But then he is still not the cool and crazy guy

 

I do not know where to start:  But I will attempt this. I sent pics enhanced, resized and enlightened with different type lighting to Klassand and at one time to Debbie on BFN.  There is this one particular photo that was a scene in a bar with some dude that appeared to be sitting on a bar stool watching NH dance.  All you could see was her arm.  I saw first a large beer bottle first glance, then the dude with the fuzzed out face and figured someone is trying to screw with a picture.  I got to looking at it and it definitely was screwed.  I will skip a lot of details here and say this.  I got into taking small images off beer bottles, etc and enhancing them and seeing perps, etc.  One very clear (to me anyway) picture if of GVC and there is a "flame" close to his face.  The picture rotated became another scene with a girl lying face down, very injured, and the arm that was supposed to be on stage is lying accross a case of beer bottles with what appears to be sneaker or tire marks on them.  I figure by now the FBI and those working on this case should have the pictures and do a lot better job than I have on them.  They have the equipment.  The shoe marks that appear on the arm do fit a style of shoe said to be worn by the prime suspect.  There is all kinds of evidence.  The beer bottle picture shows enough that it appears to have caught the bullet coming out of a gun from a camer within the bar that photographed this and was later what some are calling "photoshopped."  They however failed to get the little images on the beer bottles and they tell a tell.  That is all I can say for now, but will answer questions about this.  I wanted to tell you all because I have kept this silent for almost three years and, the beer bottle thing for maybe two.  No one seems to be moving on this and it could be because Wood, and the others may or may not have been able to pull down the information on the pictures where they could be seen in the right program.  The Pain Shot Pro will bring them down nicely under JPEG.  They should be handled in JPEG as anything else may nor may not give what clarity there is.  I am just tired and have been trying not to post graphic pictures or post any pictures that would injure the family emotionally and/or give cause to help the other parties.  It seems our own Justice Department is failing in their job of getting this case closed.  Why?  Jack b

[jackb]

Lala’s…do you remember anything about the Rainbow Warriors?…A Milton Ponson…is he the father of the of the 2 guys from the Racquet Club? An older woman tied in there as well. Could be the Mom.

Buckeye just posted about the Rainbow Warriors and I recognized the name. There was discussion early on in this thread before I started posting here. I will go back later and see if I can find the posts…just thought you may have a quick answer.(that darned Racquet Club again)...LOL

TIA

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2258.0

 

It seems someone wrote very recently that Freddy's mom had some kind of directorhip at the recquet club.   j/b

It was me jackb...but it was SC Bubali and it was checked out the other night on the main thread and she is no longer listed on the list of businesses.

I have a post that said that she was listed as Dutch on an earlier list and wanted to verify it.

Now I am going with Dutch, as the poster read it and would have no reason to say otherwise when she posted a link with this info on it.

By the way...the Grandfather of Aruban tennis is Venezuelan, Humphrey Hose...who would have guessed!

  I did not make the "It's me Jackb quote."  If someone uses my name again to quote, I will mess your computer up so bad you will NEVER have use for it again.  Do it as you will.  I don't put up with that crap.  This IS me Jackb

Jackb - this is a warning. Next time you will be put on a timeout.  I suggest you read more carefully and think before posting rediculous threats ... SHE WAS RESPONDING TO YOU, NOT IMPERSONATING YOU(klaasend)

What a charming post, jackb.   

I hope your next post will be an apology directed personally to this hard working monkey who spends many hours of her day searching and researching details to enlighten all those who struggle to decipher these cryptic posts.  She comes up with some very pertinent and interesting facts, far ahead of the preposterous claims made in some of your rambling efforts.

It is an unwritten rule on blogs to attack the post and not the poster.
I have seen posters banned from blogs for a lot less than your comments above.

  I did apologize all over the place.  I screwed up because as I said it was an honest mistake on my part, but a bit overreactive.  I would come nearer giving someone a computer than messing their's up if you knew me.  I think that girl is a sweet girl, and I never even looked to see to wrote it.  All I saw was someone said "It is me, Jack b" and I went into a protect the pics mode.  I know I am just a wreck, myself for spending every spare moment trying to "fight city hall" with this case.  God only knows how the parents and kin of NH stand up under this.  Jackb

I support that apology is required (hope my computer lives)

/quote]  I did apologize all over the place.  I screwed up because as I said it was an honest mistake on my part, but a bit over reactive.  I would come nearer giving someone a computer than messing their's up if you knew me.  I think that girl is a sweet girl, and I never even looked to see to wrote it.  All I saw was someone said "It is me, Jack b" and I went into a protect the pics mode.  I know I am just a wreck, myself for spending every spare moment trying to "fight city hall" with this case.  God only knows how the parents and kin of NH stand up under this. I have got to get this information out that I have as it seems that whomever is sitting on it does not know what to do with it or is not using the right programs to bring down the images.   Jackb