SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[klaasend]

Rainbow Warriors International proposes campaing
Stop the boycott against Aruba with lawsuits in the U.S.
DIARIO Aruba
11/23/2005

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Recently, a possibly boycott by the environmental organization was cancelled by a contract signed by Bouldin and Lawson.

Contrary to what Minister Wever insinuated, Rainbow Warriors International is working in the general interest of Aruba and the rest of the world. This is what Milton Ponson declared last Tuesday night to DIARIO.

(snipped)

Enough with pretty letters to Minister Bot, protests at the Plaza Betico Croes and Open Letters in the press. It is time to act!!! Ponson proposes lawsuits against the media who do not want to provide us with rebuttals and/or fair and accurate news coverage.

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_11_20_archive.html

[2NJSons_Mom]

Detailed Information:
On June 20, 1995 was founded Rainbow Warriors International (RWI), a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting sustainable development worldwide and human rights of Small Island Developing States, indigenous and non-represented peoples world wide, with headquarters in the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba.

Our name is based on the Warriors of the Rainbow legend, a native American legend which talks of the Warriors of the Rainbow from all corners of the world uniting to help save Mother Earth and its creatures from the greed and destructive ways of our western world.

Rainbow Warriors International utilizes a "seven pillars" framework for sustainable development and human rights which enables transparent assimilation of sustainable development and human rights concepts into existing national (development) programs and policies, by identifying seven areas around which the essential elements of sustainable development can be constructed. 

 

[sharon]

Buckeye -- I read klaas's new thread first and immediately thought of the 'seventh level' from Shango.

Very interesting.

And thanks for the additional info 2NJ.

Also interesting.....his initials.....MP

[2NJSons_Mom]

Detailed Information:
On June 20, 1995 was founded Rainbow Warriors International (RWI), a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting sustainable development worldwide and human rights of Small Island Developing States, indigenous and non-represented peoples world wide, with headquarters in the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba.

Our name is based on the Warriors of the Rainbow legend, a native American legend which talks of the Warriors of the Rainbow from all corners of the world uniting to help save Mother Earth and its creatures from the greed and destructive ways of our western world.

Rainbow Warriors International utilizes a "seven pillars" framework for sustainable development and human rights which enables transparent assimilation of sustainable development and human rights concepts into existing national (development) programs and policies, by identifying seven areas around which the essential elements of sustainable development can be constructed. 

 

I'm sorry, hit enter by mistake....

Here is the source and the above is just a portion:

http://www.envirolink.org/resource.html?itemid=580419110051&catid=5

[klaasend]

FYI - I just started a thread below for Milton Ponson 

[2NJSons_Mom]

FYI - I just started a thread below for Milton Ponson 

Sharon mentioned above...I was on a Milton frenzy and had no clue..

[JuJu]

have any of you ever looked at this Marvel Comic stuff.  It's just that a lot of the language is similar to S/S

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/raveironfist.htm

[COLOMBO]

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:45 am
Shango finds it very humorous (and quite fitting) that a frenchman would assume the monniker of a Primate
 

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:50 am
As opposed to? Crack a book some time…

[Lala'sMom]

have any of you ever looked at this Marvel Comic stuff.  It's just that a lot of the language is similar to S/S

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/raveironfist.htm

Yes, it does indeed sound a lot like sources for Shango...as does Santeria and various myths.  Have you read any of the marvel comics?  I was never a reader of comic books when I was a child.

[Lala'sMom]

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:45 am
Shango finds it very humorous (and quite fitting) that a frenchman would assume the monniker of a Primate
 

Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:50 am
As opposed to? Crack a book some time…

Simian is a frenchman...hmmmmm...who does that sound like?  Maybe it was a tease by Shango to Simian or even an insult? 

Shango was dumb and uneducated?  Maybe Simian was just firing back for the insults. hmmmmm...I have wonder about this often.

What say you Colombo?  Give us an interpretation, please.

[COLOMBO]

JuJu wrote:    "have any of you ever looked at this Marvel Comic stuff.  It's just that a lot of the language is similar to S/S"

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:45 am
Shango finds it very humorous (and quite fitting) that a frenchman would assume the monniker of a Primate
 
Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:50 am
As opposed to? Crack a book some time…

[2NJSons_Mom]

COLOMBO,

So should we look at Marvel and figure out the frenchman who assumed a monkey moniker and tie it in with cracking a book?   

[sharon]

COLOMBO,

So should we look at Marvel and figure out the frenchman who assumed a monkey moniker and tie it in with cracking a book?   

Good one!

btw -- imvhoo -- the 'frenchman who assumed the primate moniker -- was Simian's doppleganger.

JMO

[Magnolia]

Lala's,
I was deleting some old files today and ran across
Dan's "Shango Scriptures" from back in July of 2005.. 
I assume that you probably have a copy.  If not, it is interesting if you haven't seen it in a while.  I saved it, so if you want me to copy and paste it here I would be happy to.

[truthseeker2]

Lala's,
I was deleting some old files today and ran across
Dan's "Shango Scriptures" from back in July of 2005.. 
I assume that you probably have a copy.  If not, it is interesting if you haven't seen it in a while.  I saved it, so if you want me to copy and paste it here I would be happy to.

I don't know about Lala's, but I know I would like to see them.  Would you post them here?

[MuffyBee]

Lala's,
I was deleting some old files today and ran across
Dan's "Shango Scriptures" from back in July of 2005.. 
I assume that you probably have a copy.  If not, it is interesting if you haven't seen it in a while.  I saved it, so if you want me to copy and paste it here I would be happy to.

Magnolia ~  Please post them.

[Magnolia]

I am not sure that Dan ever posted this on the internet....maybe he did,
but he emailed it around.  We have learned a lot since this was done,
but it is still interesting.....and long!

I am doing it in two post.

INTRODUCTION:

   The following are taken from the blogging website http://www.scaredmonkeys.com. They were posted by an unknown person called ‘Shango’. Shango is a god of justice, champion of the downtrodden, and righter of wrongs, hence the name. Shango claims to be a vessel of Olorum (see below), but I am convinced Shango is someone on the inside who knows everything that happened and for whatever reason wants this whole thing exposed. Everyone from an anonymous well-wisher to Marianna Croes to Anita Van Der Sloot have been named as Shango’s true identity, but we have no idea. Some people in the media have already been contacted about Shango and his (or her) posts, and Dan in Tx has contacted the FBI and is hoping for a face-to-face to explain this all to an agent. He has also made one attempt to send an earlier, less polished version to Beth Twitty. Please note: time is of the essence here; according to Shango, Van Der Straaten must be pinched hard before he retires in two weeks if any of this is to come out and be exposed now; otherwise, Shango suggests it will not happen for a long, long time! At the end of this compilation are links to the actual archived threads; they’re VERY long, but they hold Shango’s original posts and some relevant questions and correct guesses made by others. Please read this and take whatever action you see appropriate. Beth or Jug Twitty, some of the things Shango says happened are not pretty; be warned before you read this. I’ve made the effort to keep my translations as polite as possible, but some things can’t be sugar-coated. Just know that my intentions are the best when I put this together and decided to send it to you; I apologize if this piles more pain upon you. God bless you and yours, know that you are all in my thoughts and prayers.

THE KEY:
Here's a list of what the code means, as interpreted by myself and other scaredmonkey bloggers; together we agreed enough to come up with this. This is all interpretation and speculation--these aren't necessarily my opinions; I'm just interpreting what I think Shango is saying. Others may see things differently, or dismiss this as a hoax. I think this is all too real.

*Mary=Natalee
*The Lamb=Joran
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba
*Arawaks=native Arubans
*Arawak King=Prime Minister, or possibly the boat with the same name from the mainland that frequents Aruba.
*Olorum=supreme being
*46th Spirit=a reference to Bifrons, a spirit with the swollen features of a rotting corpse; makes people around him aware of their own mortality. Not sure what the connection is here…
*Teepees=dwelling of innocent people/carefree island culture was first suggested, but I think it really means the island’s businesses: casinos, hotels, etc. that would be hurt worst by a drop in tourism
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ‘rolling’
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld; Natalee’s real killers (or those responsible for her death)
*The Maze=location of rave parties/ seedy underworld of the island
*Sacrifice=person or people who will take the fall if truth isn't exposed (The Lamb and shivas)
*Cowboys=Americans searching for Natalee; her family, EquuSearch, FBI, etc.
*Indians= arubans
*Loot=Natalee; some think this means hard evidence of any kind
*Wampum= money, income to Aruba; the economy
*Occam's Razor=medieval principle that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed
*Doppleganger=an invisible shadow-self possessed by every human
*Eden=truth 
*cowboy gods=the real power in the U.S.: FBI, senators, et cetera 

Note: Shango says three things frequently enough that I think it more efficient to provide one translation here to use afterward:

I must (go) feed the messengers
Either Shango has sources of his own he has to confer with (my guess), or he is leaking information to the media or elsewhere as well.

The gods are talking
Refers to ongoing communiqués between the Aruban government, the Netehrlands, the U.S., etc.

Light the fires!
The day of charges/trial/conviction are approaching.











http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1190

1: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Simian, (another poster speculating on the case)
who else plays in the orchestra? A Babylonian….
A dishonest, corrupt Dutch official on the island has a lot to lose if the depths of the seedy Aruban night life are discovered.

2: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian,
older PVDS had one or two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?
Shango
Perhaps someone will crack. Keep pressure on the three held so far to implicate the real suspects.

3: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:14 pm
The Sumerians do not like the Babylonian intrusion.
The Babylonian card may be tossed from the table and crushed under Sumerian feet (or feat)….
The P.M. does not want any impartial, honest investigators involved in this because of the cover-up, not American or from the Netherlands. It seems that there have been political pressures between Aruba and The Hague for a while now…the Hague wants the drug and rave scene cleaned up, but the Arubans distrust intrusion, and stand a lot to lose it seems. Ref. http://www2.rnw.nl/rnw/en/currentaffairs/region/southamerica/ant040113.html?view=
Standard  for related article.



4: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pm
Simian,
why was the key from the Babylonian’s Place not used to open the Sumerians Door ?
They have become famished and Eden is beckoning….
Why didn’t the Dutch officials use the initial FBI agents more? If they had, this would be closer to being solved!

5: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:26 pm
Simian,
his lordship did not bring the expected key
the door never existed
Eden is distant
The P.M. did not grant the powers or assign the tasks the Americans (FBI) expected, and he never intended to. The truth is hidden.

6: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:30 pm
Simian,
his lordship did not bring the key for the Arawaks
So it will remain “cowboys and Indians”
The posse was too late
The P.M. did not let the Aruban investigators do what they needed as well (the delay in arrests perhaps)? The search can only be completed by Americans and the Holloways, but they were stymied by misinformation and false leads planted by the corrupt authorities. Why was Natalee never found? The searchers were directed to all the wrong places!

7: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
Simian
His Lordship did not bring the key found in the car, it did not exist
The Arawaks can’t open the door
Hope lies with the cowboys,
but the posse was too late
Eden is still distant
Any evidence found in the suspects’ vehicles after it was washed later that night will not stand up in court. Only determined Americans can finally solve this mystery. Will the truth ever be known?

8: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:37 pm
Why don’t the Arawaks to play the Babylonian Card ?
The posse is far from the fort and the loot is gone
The indians can’t count on the cowboys
The arawaks need to audition the singing card
The Arubans should pressure the Netherlands for more outside help.
The Americans have been looking far from where Natalee is,  and she is hidden from them.
The volunteers can’t rely on the American searchers now (they have been misled)
The Arubans need to question DJ Croes again. He was released way too soon.
 


9: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:40 pm
The key does not exist
The Arawaks knew Babylonian involvement would prove futile
That is why the cowboys left the fort and a searching with the Indians
The evidence needed is lost.
The Aruban officials knew the Dutch officials on the island would deliberately botch the investigation and wouldn’t do any good.
The Americans and the volunteers looked in all the wrong places.


10: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his Babylonian offspring
Paulus Van Der Sloot waived his right to not testify against Joren because he is untouchable either way
He needs to tell all he knows or Joren will get fingered for the crime, maybe convicted (to keep the real killers and the web of corruption secret)
11: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:45 pm
Shango is not limited to any location, orixas are his messengers
Shango claiming to be supernatural; a seer. Again, I bet Shango is an insider to the case
 

12: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
Elder needs to sing to preserve his lineage
To agree to remain silent is to agree not to hum any tune
The Arawaks are desperate, they fear for the tribe, they do not want war with the cowboys
But the loot remains hidden
And the Arawaks keep their singing card hidden as well
The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys
If Paulus does not come forward honestly, Joren is going down. Silence will not help his son.
The Arubans do not want Americans to think Aruba is a bad place, but the evidence of truth is not to be found. Someone among the Arubans knows what happened as well, but he or she won’t step forward.
Paulus and the Arubans both want the truth to be known, but it would be disaster for the island, especially from the U.S.

13: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:57 pm
The Arawaks may not need to play the singing card
The cowboys won’t hear the music and the teepees will be safe
Wampum is needed as the doors closed on Eden
If this case is too soon forgotten or unchallenged, all of this will blow over. Holloways will be satisfied, the truth will be lost, things (both with tourism and with the corruption) will continue as usual.

14: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun
The Americans must do as the Arubans instruct. It has been slow (in tourism?) for a month; the island needs money. The native’s  source will stay hidden; the scapegoats will keep everyone’s attention just fine. All three must be implicated if the P.M.’s  dirty little secrets are to stay hidden. The truth is probably lost and the second search will be similar to the first, with misinformation and misunderstandings and nothing to show.
15: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
At one point someone claiming to be Simian was posting as well, but Shango somehow knew which was the real Simian.
16: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone
The Arubanss bugged the conversations between Joren and the Kalpoes; they know the boys are actually innocent of Natalee’s death. They also can make sure they are the first to know if one or more thinks about coming clean…

17: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:22 pm
Because the fallen judge agreed, he can sing any song he wants
A poisonous siren in the halls of babylon
He will sing to keep doors open, much to the cowboys distress
Paulus is off the hook now, and he will go on to be judge in Netherlands despite his role in this.
Anything he says could hurt the American role in the investigation; he has contacts

18: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:26 pm
The maze of Babylon is very difficult for the supposed guilty, even if innocent
The Arawaks cannot reveal their singing card
many teepees would be destroyed and the cowboys would get upset
the singing card is bad luck for wampum for many moons
So there must be some type of sacrifice
The gods are hungry, the cowboys are hungry
Great disruption in the halls of babylonian palace
It is hard to navigate the web of Dutch corruption, but the Aruban’s  inside source would destroy the island’s reputation. A lot of casinos would close because the tourism from the U.S. would stop for many months. Somebody must take the fall, because the powers that be and concerned Americans want a quick resolution

19: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:29 pm
There will be sacrifice
Tribal elders worried
Bad wampum, many moons
Light the fires
The Kalpoes and Joren will be charged to keep the cover-up going.
Otherwise the tourism will be hurt for a long time. Light the fires?

20: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:33 pm
Arawaks do not like Babylonian musicians
Everyone in camp hears poison music
Many teepees fall
New wars with babylon
No Wampum, many moons
Light the Fires!
The Arubans do not like interference from the Netherlands (like the Dutch marines). Everyone knows there are lies upon lies. The economy will be ruined and there will be tension between Aruba and the Netherlands. Light the fires!
21: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:37 pm
What is an Arawak? (someone asked him this I think)
To find answers, one must Google if smoke signals blowing in strong wind
Apparently, the Arawak are the island’s native tribe that migrated from the mainland. Hence this name for the Arubans.

22: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too.
Many teepees fall. No Wampum.
Cowboys eat Sacrifice. Arawaks eat sacrifice.
Dirty hand stays hidden, but all are well-fed.
Cowboys happy, but unrest in the halls of the palace
Babylon owes the Arawaks!
The Aruban officials have control over Joren and the Kalpoes. They can’t let Joren tell the truth because it will ruin everything for them. Bad for the economy.
The Americans will buy that the boys are the murderers. The truth is not known, but everyone is content…except for unrest in the upper offices of Aruban government. Any fallout from this will be the fault of the Dutch for not stepping in!

23: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:50 pm
If Babylonian Card sings, all will fill
Teepees and the house of babylon
We must have a sacrifice
Hide dirty hand
Light the fires!
If Joren squeals, everyone will watch the results worldwide.
Police Chief Van Der Straaten must not be investigated to keep things covered up. Light the fires!

24: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:53 pm
If Babylonian card sings ALL will fall
Teepees and the house of Babylon
If cowboys stay, after the sacrifice, everyone see dirty hand.
No Wampum, Many Moons.
Light the fires!
If Joren squeals, it will hurt the island immensely. If the Americans stay investigating after the trial, the truth will come out (possibly from Van Der Straaten himself somehow), even though damage will be done to Aruba.

25: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:55 pm
If cowboys see dirty hand, many teepees fall. House of Babylon falls.
we must have a sacrifice to feed the cowboys.
they go back to the fort with no loot.
If the Americans find out about whatever Van Der Straaten was involved in, the powers that be on the island will fall, and the Dutch reputation will be tarnished. The Americans must be appeased so they accept the lack of real evidence (Natalee’s body)

26: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:58 pm
Halls of the house of babylon may suddenly twist to accomodate cowboys walking in the maze.
No loot, but many answers.
Better twisted hallways than fallen houses.
Many invisible spirits around Arawak Fires. Many gods watching.
we must have a sacrifice.
Light the fires!
The Dutch system will have to change to accommodate the American’s persistence in investigating the underworld of the island. Better this than the whole thing be exposed. Many mysterious people in that underworld. There must be a trial (of Joren and the Kalpoes)

27: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:02 pm
Do not listen to cowgirls who cast shadows on the walls of doubt….
There will be a sacrifice.
The cowboys will be happy.
The house of Babylon won’t fall and crush the teepees
There will be a sacrifice
Soon many will see smoke signals
Cowboys will go back to fort
But first we need the sacrifice
Do not listen to the news media (does this refer to Fox News and Greta)?
The boys will be tried for this. The Americans (in general, probably not Beth Twitty!) will be happy.
The Dutch system will be intact and no damage will be done to the powers that be on Aruba.
The Americans will leave as soon as a trial is concluded. But there will be indications that something is wrong….

28: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:04 pm
Prepare the fires.
We need a sacrifice
A babylonian beast. Young Lamb der Sloot
This is pretty self-explanatory. Usually Shango isn’t this straightforward though.

29: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:13 pm
arawaks are lighting the fire
babylonians have no hunger
cowboys want a sacrifice
The typical Aruban is is perfectly willing to let this pan out, or else is afraid to come forth(remember, these ‘lions’ are powerful local officials and drug dealers from the mainland. They are VERY dangerous people) The European Dutch don’t really care one way or another. The Americans demand justice!

30: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
The babylonians knew it was dangerous to trade among the arawaks
The way is clouded for the sacrifice
Rules have changed, so has the maze
the way is lost for the pioneers who went to live among the indians
The flames are growing
A sacrifice will be made to spare the police;
to spare the teepees
Singing cards have lost their power
Arawaks worried about being caught with dirty hand
His lordship will bestow the title soon….
They will save the teepees and the palace,
but first
The Sacrifice
Joren knew it was dangerous to deal with certain people on the island; who knows his fate now? Rules have changed, and so has the rave scene (to cover things up)? The truth is lost for Natalee’s family; they’re kept too close to things, controlled and helpless. Witnesses will not be reliable now. Somebody will have to be tried to spare the embarrassment and those involved in the corruption. The natives don’t like Van Der Straaten. The P.M. will remove van Der Straaten soon, but a trial is needed.

31: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:30 pm
We need a sacrifice to appease the Arawaks and the Cowboys
Teepees already swaying in strong babylonian wind
House of Babylon does not want a sacrifice
They do not care about Arawak Teepees
only wrath of cowboys
A trial will keep the Aruban way of life safe and make the Americans happy. There is a real danger here to the powers that be. The Van Der Sloots do not want Joren to take the fall. They don’t care about the island’s welfare, but they are afraid of U.S. investigators.

32: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
The sacrifice is the correct food to appease the gods, arawaks, and cowboys
but the foundations of the house of babylon will shake
even harder if Arawak Dirty Hand is revealed
A trial will certainly make the Americans happy as well as the drug lords. But Dutch integrity is shaken regardless, even if van Der Straaten’s role is not revealed.

33: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm
Every tribe has bad Indians
Every fort has bad cowboys
If sirens sing a poison song, all will get sick
Arawaks and cowboys working well
Arawaks fear wrath of cowboys for DirtyHand
But babylonians live in teepees too
If the house of babylon is to remain erect, it must protect the babylonians who have lived in teepees, among the arawaks, for a long time.
babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public
Dirtyhand scares arawaks too
the sacrifice will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods and cowboys
cowboys will leave without loot
There are bad people in every society; even the Americans have self-serving individuals (the media)? If the corruption is revealed, everyone will see it! The natives  fear American reaction if corruption is revealed, and so do the Dutch powers on Aruba. If the status quo is to be preserved, it must make the Dutch officials and Aruba look innocent until things die down. The possibility of Van Der Straaten being exposed scares the Arubans too. But bringing the boys to trial will be enough to keep the Americans happy even without any real evidence.

34: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:43 pm
Meetings with his lordship will reveal several mysteries
the sacrifice also knows the fires have been lit
Talking with the powers that be (maybe including Paulus) will not answer any questions or doubts (we’re only revealing mysteries, not their answers). The boys must know now that they’re going down as scapegoats.

35: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:48 pm
The simplicity of Occams Razor is often outweighed by the complexity of maintaining factors in an elemental state
Keep theories simple, even though it is hard.

36: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:50 pm
The pain the sacrificial beast will feel depends on how quickly the cowboys return to the fort.
How long the boys will languish in trial or jail depends on how quickly the Americans lose interest and go home. At this point I think cowboys is specifically referring to Beth and Jug Twitty as often as not.

37: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:54 pm
The Arawaks are not going to sacrifice a scapegoat
Babylon needs to allow one sacrifice to keep DirtyHand hidden
Babylon scared of DirtyHand
Arawaks scared of DirtyHand
If sacrifice is made, teepees are safe, villagers and cowboys happy
If DirtyHand discovered, House of Babylon falls, Teepees crushed under great house
The Arubans won’t let Joren be tried if they think he’s innocent. Everyone is scared of Van Der Straaten, so a token trial is needed. That way everyone is happy and kept in the dark. I’m wondering if Dirty Hand means Van Der Straaten, or the corruption in general.

38: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:58 pm
Arawaks want to make cowboys happy
Babylonians want to maintain integrity of Great House
Gods of the cowboys know there was a game in the great house,
and so DirtyHand was discovered
But the sacrifice will be offered before dirty hand sings
He will return to babylon, broken but anonymous
The natives want the Americans satisfied, and the Dutch want their integrity maintained. Some Americans (maybe FBI or similar) know something about the corruption, and they will be the key to uncovering this mess. Van Der Straaten will leave his post and his power and influence but with his misdeeds kept secret because of the fake trial.

39: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:00 pm
arawaks and babylonians often fight, but this is kept from the cowboys as it can affect wampum for many moons.
The Arubans and Dutch often come to odds, but the Arubans don’t want the U.S. to know about any instability for obvious reasons. Again, see above article.

40: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:02 pm
The babylonians are to blame.
The arawaks were worried about teepees and the cowboys.
They did not bring DirtyHand into the Tribe!
He will go back to babylon broken, after the sacrifice is eaten
The Dutch have allowed the corruption to get to this point. The Arubans are worried about their livelihood from the Americans; they do not like dealing with the corrupt Dutch officials / Van Der Straaten! He will slink away whenever he gets a chance.

41: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:04 pm
If DirtyHand sings, sacrifice will still be eaten.
But there will be many more people at the feast, and the cowboys would resent the Arawaks for Babylons interference.
Even if Van Der Straaten is exposed, the boys will be in big trouble for their part. But the Americans will be pissed at the Arubans if they let the corrupt Dutch take control of the situation.

42: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:13 pm
His lordship did not bring the key, it does not exist.
doors to eden remain closed.
The arawaks hold the singing cards. They have the babylonian and 2 shivas. But the other card is dirty.
Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand.
If DirtyHand comes out of hiding, Babylon will fall and the cowboys will circle the wagons.
DirtyHand can destroy the Arawaks and Babylon.
Better to prepare the sacrifice quickly so the cowboys go home
….without the loot
The P.M. will not ever allow the U.S. full participation, and the truth stays hidden. The Aruban officials hold the boys (Joren and the Kalpoes). Van Der Straaten can destroy the Arubans and the corrupt Dutch officials.
43: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:19 pm
There are many DirtyHands among the Arawak, and so it has been for centuries…
There have been such corrupt individuals for as long as the Dutch have had Aruba

44: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:28 pm
All preceding stated is verifiable
DirtyHand is well known
there will be a sacrifice
the gods have been talking
the fires have been lit
the cowboys will go back to the fort without the loot
that is why they are preparing the sacrifice
All fear DirtyHand
Arawaks and babylon
I must go feed the messengers
The stage is set as of today: the corruption is well-known on the island at least, there will be charges and trial against the boys, speculation escalates, the media is ready, the Americans are satisfied even without a body. Everyone is afraid of the corruption, both the Arubans and the Dutch. Is my source saying he has to pay informants now?Someone suggested ‘I must go feed the messengers’ means Shango is leaking information to the media himself. That would explain the ‘anti false information’ bullshit.

45: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:30 pm
Shango is not a Simian Doppleganger and has his own messengers
Yeah, I think Shango must have his own sources when he talks about feeding the messengers. The rest is another reference to the fake Simian.

Out of chronological order:

46: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:04 pm
The young Lamb der Sloot shall be the sacrifice for the Arawaks and the cowboys.
All will sit around the fire and feast on scapegoat.
The gods are talking
Joren will be charged with Natalee’s death, and everyone will eat the trial up.
 

47: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA
Natalee first got into trouble at the rave, but the truth of this is not easy to discern. This rave was held in a shoddy house or seedy establishment; some have suggested that the ‘party’ Natalee was taken to was near the old gold mine in Arawaki National Park; see attached photos. Date rape and overdose led to Natalee’s death;  DNA evidence will surface here.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1191


48: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found
Aruba is preserved and Babylon will pay the price
the gods know that the blame lies on babylon
the cowboys will go back to the fort without the loot
The Arubans want the Dutch corruption revealed as long as tourism isn’t hurt. Aruba’s economy may be preserved, but it this will hurt the Netherlands somehow, and blame ultimately lies with them.

49: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified
the gods are talking
PVDS and Van Der Straaten may not ever be implicated in anything.

50: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
The singing card can not be played
The cowboys would circle the wagons
The arawaks are preparing the sacrifice
light the fires
the gods are talking
DirtyHand is not a native Aruban, and for now he will not talk. The Arubans are ready for this to blow over, and the Americans are waiting for the outcome of a trial. Light the fires. The gods are talking.

51: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:21 pm
The sacrificial offering will not be scapegoat
Does this mean the boys won’t be convicted, or that they will because they aren’t innocent of some wrongdoing (thus not a scapegoat by definition)? See my theory at the bottom of this document

52: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:30 pm
Who knows what song the elder will sing
Will Paulus come clean for Joren, stay silent, or lie for himself?

53: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
The shivas knew the girl
the arawaks new the girl
and the babylonians still know the girl
The Kalpoes know who Natalee is, or it may be the Biblical sense of ‘knowing a woman’. But she was new to the raves and drug scene. The officials know where her body is…or that she was alive after she went missing and was used again in the Biblical sense by her captors. If you ever read this Beth, I’m really sorry.

54: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:32 pm
His lordship is there to preserve babylon
not the elder
remember dirtyhand!
The P.M. wans to protect the Dutch image by covering the corruption, he doesn’t care about Paulus Van Der Sloot. Remember…it is the corruption that is the problem here!

55: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:34 pm
the struggle between the babylonians and the arawaks still remains hidden
the arawaks awaited the key
his lordship said no
the door to eden remains closed
they are preparing the fire
Nobody yet realizes the true extent of the corruption and problems between the corrupt Dutch officials on Aruba and the Netherlands, but the Arubans are waiting for someone to discover it. The truth remains hidden as the trial creeps closer…

56: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:35 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
Many pioneers have settled with the tribe
DirtyHand is not a native Aruban. Many people are coming to Aruba because of this (Natalee’s family, volunteers, FBI, etc)

57: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:43 pm
Did the babylonians like to make movies?
From the tears, a new river will spring forth…..
Did somebody (someone Dutch, specifically) have a film of what happened to Natalee? From the horror of this evidence a new route to the truth will be found!
 

58: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
The card of babylon was already played
if it sings, DirtyHand will bring down the Royal House on top of the Arawak Nation
the gods have handed down a pipe of peace, but a sacrifice will be made
Some elders of the game, not just of babylon walk in older circles
cowboys hear the singing, but the words are not understood
The gods and the babylonians are worried about the cowboys response
If van Der Straaten reveals what he knows, everything will break open and the scandal will totally discredit the Dutch governors of Aruba and the Arubans themselves. The powers that be and Dutch are worried about the reaction from the U.S.


59: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:51 pm
The 46th spirit does not walk the same circle as the elders, this shall be his downfall
Perhaps it means that not all circumstances can be controlled, and forensic evidence may be found yet (remember, Bomans the god of the dead is the 46th spirit). Someone has also said that 4:6 has something to do with Catholicism; see below. Perhaps Natalee’s body did or will resurface despite efforts to hide it?


60: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
The Arubans know who is who and who does what, even to the upper levels of government.

61: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Van Der Straaten and the gov’t officials on Aruba are friends, even officials in the Netherlands know this.

62: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words
The Americans involved with the investigation know something is wrong, but don’t know what…

63: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:58 pm
DirtyHand knows the Babylonians that provided escort after the 2 shivas left
Van Der Straaten knows what happened to Natalee after the Kalpoes left her and Joran.

64: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
The Arubans know Joran’s reputation and what he does.

65: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:04 pm
Are the children of the elders there, or did they flee to Babylon?
DirtyHand knows, this is his Power
there will be 46 sacrifices
Are Natalee’s real murderers (kidnappers, whatever) still in Aruba or did they return to Europe or South America?
Van Der Straaten knows for sure; this is why he is leaving.
29:10-46 Sacrifices Something about honoring the sacrifice of the Virgin Mary (Natalee)

66: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:08 pm
The 46th will pay for the children of the Elders
The truth about Natalee’s death will save Joren and the Kalpoes from a murder trial.

67: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:13 pm
DirtyHand walks in ALL houses
houses of the Arawaks, and houses of Rave
He can break the alibi
Van Der Straaten knows everything that goes on in Aruba; he knows what the natives do, what the ravers do, what the drug lords do. He can expose everything.

68: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:16 pm
Mary was not a Virgin
The Arawaks know
The cowboys know
DirtyHand can break the Alibi, he walks all circles
Natalee had done drugs before, or been to a rave before? Or simply had sex prior to that fateful night? The Arubans know for sure, some Americans (Nat’s friends) know for sure?
Van Der Straaten knows.

69: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:18 pm
If the Alibi is broken by DirtyHand the walls of Babylon will shake
All of the Netherlands will be scandalized if van Der Straaten talks or is found out.

70: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:23 pm
Old treaties between the Babylonians and the Arawaks were maintained until the gods heard
Babylon now fears reprisals
the fires are lit
there will be 46 sacrifices
Things have been this way for awhile, and will be until a greater power interferes. The Dutch fear the repercussions of this partnership. The stage is set. Find Natalee’s body.

71: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:30 pm
You always find forbidden desires in the small houses of Babylon
the girl knew this
Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon.
But not to satiate desire.
The Netherlands (the Dutch, the Europeans) hold many pleasures and vices, and Natalee knew this. DirtyHand was there with (at the same time as) Natalee as well, but for differents reasons. If he is friends with PVDS, perhaps he was watching out for Joran?

72: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:33 pm
Why did the girl owe money?
Natalee somehow owed money to one of the crime lords? Or does this refer to her casino losses?

73: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
DirtyHand is not a child of Babylon
He holds the real key
The Arawaks fear his exposure
The house of babylon would tumble down on the teepees of the Arawaks
DirtyHand knows the cowboys will leave lootless.
He can break the alibi
DirtyHand is not European, or not born in Europe. Was Van Der Straten born in Europe? Perhaps this means he is not well-liked in the Netherlands (disowned child). He knows what happened; he knows all of this. The Arubans fear what would happen if he squealed (due to economic losses). Both the Dutch interests and the local interests would be terribly damaged and scandalized. But DirtyHand knows the Americans will not find Natalee (He knows how thorougly she is hidden)? He can break this wide open.

74: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:41 pm
even after a daughter gives birth to a grandchild, the father of the new mother will still claim his daughter is a virgin. All who enter the damned corridors of the houses of Babylon know the dangers that await
But the knowledge that they are forbidden is what makes them so pleasurable
Parents tend to think their children are blameless (may refer to Beth or Anita). Everyone who associates with the drug scene knows it is dangerous, but the temptation is still there. This seems to refer to Natalee directly, though all accounts are she was not that wild a girl. Perhaps it refers to Joren and Natalee; Joren knew what kind of things might happen if he went with her there. I am beginning to think somebody NOT involved with the Dutch needs to investigate this underground drug/rave scene.
 
75: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:45 pm
All who enter the damned corridors of the houses of Babylon know the dangers that await
Everyone who consorts with drug dealers and criminals know it is dangerous.

76: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:48 pm
Coverups begin with elders and the founders of the houses of Babylon
Not the minions
DirtyHand knows this
The cover-up started at highest levels of government and worked down; Dirtyhand knows the extent of this.

77: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:50 pm
Are insects conned into entering Venus Flytraps?
Was Natalee tricked or lured into a situation she normally would’ve avoided? Or is Shango saying the insect knows the danger but goes for the honey anyway?

78: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:53 pm
DirtyHand is the key
He walks with the elders
He walks in all houses
And he walked with the fallen elder
he was the hidden card that was played
now if he sings, babylon will fall on the arawak nation
Van Der Straaten  knows all the players in this web of corruption. If he comes forth, the Dutch and the drug trade will be destroyed (either literally or figuratively)
79: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:56 pm
The Simian knows his Lordship did not have a key to open the door to Eden. The answer lies with the Arawak Nation.
Simian knew the P.M. never intended to have a fair investigation! The answer to all this lies with the Arubans (perhaps only they can really drive the drug and crime out)!
80: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:01 pm
If the door to Eden is to be opened with that key, it will be tomorrow
or forever remained closed
If the scandal is exposed due to evidence, it will be on June 27 or not at all. This may refer to Natalee’s body. It was not exposed due to evidence, so that route is blocked.

81: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:05 pm
DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time
Self-explanatory 
82: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:12 pm
Even Flying Birds Sing.
If the key does not arrive tomorrow, that door to Eden will remain closed
I must feed the messengers.

Not sure what to make of this one. ‘Sing’ refers to informing the authorities, but as for flying bird…maybe this means someone not on the island might tell something. If the key to the case is not found by 06/27 the truth will be hidden.




27th
83: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:12 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found
Poster babalu must have guessed the truth. If Natalee’s body is not found today, it will never be found (and of course it wasn’t). Looking back, blogger babalu guessed DirtyHand’s identity as well.

[Magnolia]

This is the second part...see post above.


lies with the Arubans (perhaps only they can really drive the drug and crime out)!
80: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:01 pm
If the door to Eden is to be opened with that key, it will be tomorrow
or forever remained closed
If the scandal is exposed due to evidence, it will be on June 27 or not at all. This may refer to Natalee’s body. It was not exposed due to evidence, so that route is blocked.

81: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:05 pm
DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time
Self-explanatory 
82: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:12 pm
Even Flying Birds Sing.
If the key does not arrive tomorrow, that door to Eden will remain closed
I must feed the messengers.

Not sure what to make of this one. ‘Sing’ refers to informing the authorities, but as for flying bird…maybe this means someone not on the island might tell something. If the key to the case is not found by 06/27 the truth will be hidden.




27th
83: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:12 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found
Poster babalu must have guessed the truth. If Natalee’s body is not found today, it will never be found (and of course it wasn’t). Looking back, blogger babalu guessed DirtyHand’s identity as well.

84: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:26 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting.
Simian your Doppleganger is with us
Babalu guessed something about the Dutch corruption in his post of 12:30 am. See thread archives linked below.
 
Babalú Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned
“No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis” Van Der Straaten!

June 27th, 2005 at 8:04 pm
85: Shango Says:
The young Lamb der Sloot shall be the sacrifice for the Arawaks and the cowboys.
All will sit around the fire and feast on scapegoat.
The gods are talking
Joren shall be tried to appease the natives and the Americans, and if he’s convicted everyone will be happy (they’ll eat it up)
The gods are talking.
86: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:06 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into Babylon on his 12:31 A.M. post
DirtyHand is alive and well
Apparently someone asked if DirtyHand was a living person. Not sure.
87: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:41 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA
This appears above, with the same wording. Natalee went with Joran to the shoddy rave house, rolled X intentionally or not, and got into trouble. DNA evidence can be found there. ‘While of gold bricks the road is not paved’ seems to indicate a dive or flophouse, or maybe just a plain old building like at the National Park?

88: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive
DirtyHand is as yet safe and hidden.

89: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:46 pm
Shango said the key to the Hague did not exist
that door to eden remains closed
until the house with the path
But not of gold
is entered
The connection with the Dutch officials and this scandal is in a ‘house with a path not of gold’ Until that evidence is found, the scandal will stay hidden. The evidence at that house is VERY important!
 
90: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
See above; we have determined DirtyHand is Van Der Straaten

91: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:51 pm
DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder
Van Der Straaten is known among the locals, the Dutch officials, and PVDS.
 

92: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
Outsiders brought into the Arawak tribe walk in many circles, nameless
Outsiders don’t know enough to navigate the island or its ways

93: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:59 pm
DirtyHand can bring down all houses
DirtyHand is the key
His reach is long
He walks in all circles
consort to all, except for the gods
He knows the sacrifice is not responsible
DirtyHand can expose this whole affair. He  is the key. He is known in many circles and is known to all, except the highest officials in the Netherlands. He knows the boys did not kill Natalee.

94: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Of whom is the young Babylonian afraid?
Why won’t he talk?
Who is Joran afraid of? Why won’t he spill everything? He stands to lose a lot from this!
These drug lords on Aruba are not far short of Pablo Escobar; Joren is most likely afraid for his life or that of his parents…which is why he is still NOT come forth with the truth!

95: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:05 pm
The dice throwers know
the maze of the rave
and the fly that entered the trap
DirtyHand is the key
He walks in many circles
The gamblers of the island know about the raves and the drug scene, and they know Natalee went to one. Again, DirtyHand is the key. I think that someone at the casino (maybe one of Natalee’s companions) heard something about where she and Joren went.
Has anyone questioned the other kids who went on the trip about any of this?

96: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:06 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles. He walks in many circles.
The boys (Kalpoes and Joren) were never near a beachwith Natalee like they claim! Every trip they make to a beach is just part of a cover-up to make things look good to the cowboys (Americans). He (DirtyHands) is well-known by all and knows everything that happened.

97: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:09 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles
DirtyHand knows this
Children of the Elders play in the maze,
but DirtyHand is afraid to rave
The boys are not clever enough to cover or protect themselves, and DirtyHand knows this. The boys never went to the beach with Natalee. The Dutch on Aruba go to many raves and do other questionable things (see my synopsis below), but DirtyHand doesn’t do any of that.

98: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:29 pm
Babylonians and Shivas do not play with sandcastles
Follow the music!
Mary who was not a Virgin entered the maze to discover it’s secrets
The lamb is scared
The fires are lit
But now the lamb is a goat
 The boys are not clever enough to cover or protect themselves. They never went to any beach! Follow the music- must refer to the underground rave scene on the island. Natalee went to a rave and possibly found out something that got her in trouble? Maybe she met someone dangerous? Joren is scared, but it may be too late for him…

99: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”
Natalee’s was never by the ocean or the beach; ask the gamblers and the ravers who ‘roll’ X.
 
100: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:32 pm
THE DRAX SCORES\

drax Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:30 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles=
they weren’t on the beach?


101: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:33 pm
Follow the music
Investigate the raves!

102: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The people Natalee gambled with at the casino know what happened to Natalee, or have a clue. They know about the raves.  The gamblers there (not necessarily locals!) are somehow involved.

103: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:41 pm
Mary ROLLED through the Maze
There is more than one house of music
the Lamb is a Scapegoat
Natalee did X or was given X at the rave, or maybe she went from one party to another.
Joran did not kill Natalee


104: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:42 pm
The Lamb returned to the fold
Mary Rolled
And the lions played
Joren went home, perhaps he was afraid of the people at the party. Natalee got high on X, and the ravers took advantage of her situation…I feel so sorry for her, even now. Again, see the synopsis.

105: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:45 pm
Windows looking onto Babylon are being opened by the ThreadSurfers
Us bloggers on scaredmonkeys.com are getting closer to the truth. 

106: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.
The lamb is a scapegoat.
The raves offer many pleasures including sex (rape)? DirtyHand knows what happened. So does Paulus Van Der Sloot. Joren did not kill Natalee. Could deflowering of forbidden fruits specifically mean a place where pretty young girls are lured and date raped? See the entry below- gardeners would mean the guys who prey on these girls.

107: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
DirtyHand has walked through the maze
He knows of the forbidden fruit
and the gardeners
DirtyHand has been to raves and similar parties. He knows what all goes on there…and who goes there too.

108: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s fetid depths.
Tell the Cowboys!
The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.
Why haven’t the authorities investigated the raves?! The Arubans hide the raves for the sake of the Dutch officials. Why hasn’t anyone given an inside explanation to give to the FBI! Tell the Americans about the raves and the drug scene that goes with it!

109: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:57 pm
All know of the music
beckoning lost souls
to enter the seven levels of inferno
who gave Mary the poison wine of Bacchus?
Enter the Maze.

Everyone knows of the raves (on the island), and what they offer. Who drugged Natalee? Go to the raves to find out.
---
110: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:01 pm
The Drax asks a question for which he already provided an answer.
111: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:04 pm
Babalu opened a window looking onto Babylon with his 12:30 A.M. post
112: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:13 pm
Lucy spoke at 10:56
Lucy Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:56 pm
Someone said last night that Dirty Hand was somebody in the police.
Van Der Straaten…with this many people coming in and out of the forum discussion, repeat questions are inevitable
 
 
113: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder
DirtyHand does not associate with the gamblers and criminals, but he’s been to or knows about their raves. He and Paulus know Joren didn’t kill Natalee.

114: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:23 pm
Follow the music
into the maze
the lions know they are being stalked
the gamblers and other Rollers talk
tell the cowboys!
Investigate the raves. Natalee’s real killers know they’re not out of danger yet, because there is no honor among thieves and someone may still squeal. Tell the Americans (FBI)!

115: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:26 pm
The Arawaks will not enter the maze unless the cowboys refuse the peace pipe
Follow the music,
the lions are not tame
DirtyHand knows,
so does the elder
The natives will not investigate or do anything about the raves unless the Americans do not accept the trial. The real killers are ravers, the ‘lions’, and both Dirtyhands and Paulus know this.

116: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:29 pm
Some windows overlooking Babylon have been opened
The cowboys need to find the right path,
but they can’t hear the music.
The Arawaks know
Stupid Cowboys with Arawak Guides
Cowboys don’t read smoke signals,
they must enter the maze!
Shango needs to feed the messengers. The Gods are talking.
Some truths have been revealed, but the Americans need to find the right way to investigate further, but they don’t understand how they should do this. The Americans are useless as long as they rely on local authorities, because the Americans aren’t familiar with Aruba and are being misled. They must investigate the raves!
117: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating
afraid to walk through the maze
why don’t the arawaks ambush the lions?
The cowboys don’t know.
DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation
The gods are talking
Natalee went to a ‘rave’ and ended up with a bad crowd. Joren was afraid of some of the people there, and left Natalee with them. Why don’t the Arubans do something about the drug dealers?The Americans don’t know about them. Van Der Straaten knows, but he’s afraid of the consequences for himself.
118: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:48 pm
The Simian was incorrect about the package from the Hague
I told the Simian, but the Simian would not listen
The simian is not a simian, but an austrolopithecus
Delightful banter between Shango and Simian; they were kind of rivals on the boards. Shango apparently told Simian something about his guesses, which Simian ignored.

119: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating
afraid to walk through the maze
why don’t the arawaks ambush the lions?
The cowboys don’t know.
DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation
The gods are talking
Natalee went to the rave but ended up with a bad crowd that intended or did her serious harm. Joren fled, afraid to stay. Why don’t the natives bring the killers to justice, because the Americans are on the wrong trail? Van Der Straaten knows, but he is afraid for his reputation.
 

110: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:52 pm
Threadsurfers on other beaches are oblivious to the Maze and the lions
without exposure, the arawaks will deceive the cowboys
they will leave without loot
Most people(outside of Aruba) are unaware of the raves and the people who prey on young girls there. Unless this is exposed, the Arubans will not let the U.S. know about this dark side to the island and will not find Natalee.


111: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:56 pm
Shango is the god of justice
alive in many forms
he who speaks through Oxum through lightning
and himself through thunder
father of the violent dance
diviner of secrets of the seven levels of inferno
bound to truth even as it burns
so that justice may be brought.
I think Shango is either someone on the inside of the investigation- either in the investigation camp or an honest Aruban- who wants the truth to be known for whatever reason. This was probably in response to someone’s question to his or her identity.

112: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:59 pm
Only those who cRave music go into the Maze
Only people who know about the raves and what goes on there go to them; they are hidden and hard to find by accident.

28th
113: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:04 am
The gods of Babylon have orchested the refrain for the Arawak choir
the music which holds the answers lies within the maze
the cowboys will smile sweetly as the chorus sings
backs turned to the maze
never hearing a single note
from the poison song
The Dutch officials have control over what the Arubans will say- this is a reference to the information-controlling committee the officials imposed this past week in my mind. The answers lie within Aruba’s underworld. The Americans will believe anything they’re told unless the whole lie is exposed, and will not think twice about the mazes, never know their evil.

114: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:11 am
All the Arawaks know the Maze which plays the poison songs
All the Arubans know which raves are in ‘the mazes’ (the seedy, dangerous ones)

115: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:14 am
How those innocent young flies enter the trap with honey laden notes
Someone on the blog suggested that raves are by invitation only, and that these lions look for pretty girls to invite and take advantage of. In Natalee’s case, something went wrong and she did not survive as most victims do. See synopsis.
116: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:19 am
Shango must leave to feed the messengers. The gods are talking.
See above; Shango says this a lot, actually.

117: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house
where the children of the babylonians
and the arawak nation
meet, under cover of delusion.
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.
Tell the cowboys!
Follow the clues to the rave house, where the Dutch and the Aruban underworld meet secretly. The predators who killed Natalee and prey on young girls are here still; ask the gamblers which ones did it. And inform the Americans!

118: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:28 am
Not all lions leave their den
Some of the ravers/ lions live at the house?

119: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:34 am
That which is hidden shan’t be found in the light
The raves are vacant during the day?Or does this again mean you have to know where to look to find these ‘underground’ raves.
120: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:37 am
Yliana and Subdude have both opened windows which look into the heart of babylon
do not stray from your paths
you hold the key in hand
Two bloggers made correct guesses to what Shango said (see thread archives)
We are on the right track figuring this out.



 

121: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:39 am
The threadsurfers are opening the door to babylon
be careful of the lions
DirtyHand does not have them tamed
but he can enter the den
tell the cowboys
We bloggers are slowly revealing the truth about Aruba and the Dutch corruption, but be careful of the ravers and drug lords who aren’t controlled by Van Der Straaten (even though they know him). Inform the Americans (FBI)

122: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 1:11 am
See Subdude / Iliana 12:34


 

123: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 1:32 am
For the doubters: You do not need to see a grain of sand in your eye to know it is there
You don’t have to see something plausible to judge it plausible. This is all possible, even if it sounds far-fetched.

124: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 1:55 am
Find the music
Only David left the den alive
Find the rave. Only Joren left the rave alive; whenever she died (either that night or sometime while captive), Natalee died at the rave house.
125: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:24 am
This Simian is not the Simian. It is a Doppleganger.
The fake Simian showed up again. I’d like to know how Shango could tell!


126: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:27 am
Crypticism leads to tributaries of thought which would not usually leave the MainStream
Shango’s hints are in riddles to make us think for ourselves. This path to the truth cannot be found by ordinary means.

127: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:29 am
Babylon is Falling
The Arawak teepees will be crushed
will they sacrifice the Lamb or the Lion
to make the cowboys smile
Things are beginning to unravel; Aruba will suffer for this. The question is: will they convict the boys or the true murderers to make the Americans happy?I think Shango is saying that enough damage has been done already to make the lions back off and play it cool for awhile.

128: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:39 am
The arawaks must hunt the lions
in the place of darkness
house of secrets
The Arubans must help expose this deceit and bring the murderers to justice.

129: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:45 am
Shango finds it very humorous (and quite fitting) that a Frenchman would assume the moniker of a Primate
Apparently Shango doesn’t like the French. But hey, who does?


130: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:50 am
The babylonian and the shivas did not build castles in the sand
they lost to the lions
dirty hand knows
the elder knows
and so do the arawaks
the cowboys are far from the house of babylon
the maze shall remain dark to all but the arawak nation and the elders
Joren and the Kalpoes did not make up their own stories; they were coached by PVDS because of the threat the lions hold over them. Van Der Straaten knows what is going on; so do the Arubans. The Americans are far from the scene, and this shall not be revealed to them easily.

131: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:59 am
The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation is hiding the truth from the cowboys
DirtyHand knows
Simian knows
The Simian stated for 2 days, the key would come from the hague the next day
Shango said no two times
Is Simian a DirtyHand too
Has the Simian played with the lions
in the houses of ill-repute and poison notes
where the innocent flies are lured?
Has the Simian, primate that he is, fed with the other animals?
Back ye fetid mongrel, as the 46th are you; delegate of the 7th level of inferno,
not birthed, but spewed from the dark chasm of a nightmare!
Simian, another blogger, was upset at the Arubans for not coming forward and exposing this. Shango kept telling Simian that the Netherlands (or maybe the Aruban P.M.) would not intervene. Perhaps Shango knows Simian and suspects him of trying to lead this inquiry astray; perhaps he is one of the lions?


132: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 3:06 am
Information the Simian left for 2 days was incorrect
His lordship brought nothing from the Hague
the simian listens to whisperings of the arawak tongue foolishly thinking he is an insider.
Shango says Simian trusts the Dutch too much and does not carefully sort what he hears from Arubans.



30th
133: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 1:49 am
All of Shango’s information comes from the higher power, Olorum
Shango has not danced with the lions, nor Arawaks,and does not keep their company
Shango does not know the ravers, and he is not Aruban.
Eyes of god may look from afar with great acuity.
Shango is a seer of some kind, so he says. I doubt it.
The resolution to find Mary lies with the Arawak Nation
Natalee’s body will only be found when the Arubans feel it is safe to reveal it or look for it.
Dirty Hand has bound the Arawak Nation with Babylonian Rope
Van Der Straaten kept pressure on Aruba to keep quiet with help from Dutch officials.
The Lamb and the two Shivas whisper in the dark,
The boys are conspiring among themselves,
while the lions pace silently in the bush.
threatened by the ravers, Natalee’s real killers.
Dirty Hand is the link!
Van Der Straaten must be pinched, hard, and soon!
The lamb, the shivas, the elder whispering, exiting like thieves in the night, clothed with invisible armor
The boys won’t be convicted in the end, and all involved will try to hide from accusations
If Dirty Hand falls, so does Babylon, but too, the Arawak Nation shall suffer.
If van Der Straaten is exposed, the whole affair will be brought to light but Aruba will suffer
Threadsurfers listen!
The lamb shall run anew in virgin fields, cropping sweet grass which should remain untouched.
To the bloggers: if Joren goes free, he will keep his questionable ways
The Lamb has sins, but the lions have sharper teeth.
Joren is not free of guilt, but the lions (the people at the rave that night) murdered Natalee.
A new key must be found to open unknown doors.
The standard investigations will not work through this cover-up
The first concern of the Arawak nation is wampum.
The Arubans are concerned with tourism dollars first
But unseen tides pull babylonian seas through Arawak Moats, bittering the waters.
But unknown people will force Netherlands influence this case and make it hard to discern
DirtyHand and the Lions must see the light of Arawak Day, or forever walk in plentiful fields.
Van Der Straaten and the murderers must be exposed now, or they will never be!
The dead shall eternally sleep if a clamour is not made.
If this isn’t exposed, Natalee’s body will never be found
Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the fetid pool of deception.
We can start to unravel this deceit with the help of Paulus and Joran
The rule of the Arawak King is the Final word.
The Prime Minister has the ability to hinder or help the investigation
DirtyHand has fouled the air for all nearby, but the Arawak Nation will claim Babylonian Authority prevents them from hunting Lions, and DirtyHand.
Van Der Straaten’s silence has caused this cover-up, but the Arubans will claim they were silenced by Dutch officials
But the Arawak king controls destiny of all. The Arawak king has DirtyHands and DirtyFeet. If he is to reign anew, he cannot be soiled more.
The P.M. must come clean with everything if he wants to stay the Prime Minister.
The babylonians have ruled the Arawak Nation through deception and stealth, and their charges, the Arawaks, speak now with the same forked tongue, on behalf of their king.
The corrupt officials have kept the Arubans quiet through political power, and so the Arubans lie as well.
The gift the cowboys ask of the king of the Arawak Nation is a mere trifle.
The Americans do not ask much to find out what they want to know.
All ye who sing in the cyber-chorus lower your voices not!
Bloggers, keep people informed of this event!
It has been proven that the lamb, the shivas, and the elders are not the breach in Arawak Armour!
The Kalpoes and Van Der Sloots are not able to break this case alone
Let us hunt Lions, The King, and Dirty Hand.
Let’s find the murderers, expose van Der Straaten, and the corrupt Dutch officials
The lions pace silently in the bush, while the king seeks pleasures with his concubines.
The ravers are just waiting to commit this crime again, if their leader is not caught
Threadsurfers! What is sought is not hidden.
What we are looking for is no mystery.
The Lamb and the elder are not the keystone in the Arch of Corruption.
This scandal goes far beyond the Van Der Sloots.
Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.
Seek van Der Straaten’s guilt and that of the Prime Minister, who try to shift blame elsewhere
If the head of the beast is in plain view it is folly to attack protected flanks.
If you know who the leaders are, don’t waste time with the lackeys
Threadsurfers, DirtyHand is more vulnerable than the Arawak King and your lances should point in his direction.
Work on Van Der Straaten first; he will break easier than the P.M.
He is the weak link, if he tumbles, all fall with him….. The lamb, the shivas, the elder
If he cracks, all will be revealed.
Shango looks from afar but speaks with truth. He does not converse with the Simian, or any other worldly sources, and attempts to bring direction to speculation
Shango communes with the gods; he answers to no mortal
 ---
134: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 1:58 am
Shango does not fear the Simian
Shango feels the Simian speaks speculatively
desiring to know, but remaining clothed in darkness
Shango does not give Simian any credit, Simian guesses and does not know.

135: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:04 am
Observe all communications from Shango and judge from their worth….
Look at what Shango has said so far, and judge for yourself its worth.
DirtyHand is the the Keystone!
Van Der Straaten is the key!
The lamb is in their fold, and the shivas.
Joren and the Kalpoes are mere pawns
Threadsurfers, if they cannot out a lamb to manger, how will they deal with lions?
If investigators can’t get the truth out of the boys, how can they convict the real criminals?
DirtyHand is the key and may leave soon to avoid attention from the cowboys and the fort
Van Der Straaten is leaving in mid-July. We’re running out of time!

136: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:07 am
If the keystone falls, it will crush the lamb, the shivas, and the elder
the noise of the crashing arch shall scare the lions from their den
DirtyHand is the key to All!
Take down Van Der Straaten, and the rest will follow. The fall of the mighty will scare up Natalee’s real killers.
137: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:11 am
All Secrets are hidden in Plain View
Evidence leading to this scandal and cover-up are not hidden, just not apparent

138: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:13 am
The Arawaks make the cowboys dance so the smoke signals are lost in the wind
How can one hunt for lions without a local guide?
How can one hunt for lions with fishing gear?
DirtyHand still commands Arawak war parties, confusing outlanders…
Time is the enemy of the cowboys
and friend to the Arawaks, the Babylonians, and the hunted Jungle beasts
The Arubans misled the American investigators. You can’t find the murderers without an honest guide. You won’t find Natalee’s body at sea; the lions are on land, after all. Van Der Straaten still has power over the local authorities. Time is of the essence!   

139: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:14 am
Shango did not mention a Handicap
That was the fetid Simian
Apparently Simian mentioned being handicapped, and someone got him and Shango confused?
140: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:18 am
For those who think Shango has danced with the lions
or walked the maze
they have not read diligently
Eyes of God see from afar
If ye have truth, ask not how it was begotten…
Shango says he is not an insider to the drug and underground rave scene. He says to accept the truth and not question his sources.
141: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:26 am
In your senseless rage you wave your sword recklessly
as such you would sever the limb even of a defender of the faith
If a bird whispers an evil secret, the listener is not the sinner!
Not all messages come from a terrestrial origin.
Believe.
When olorum speaks, lesser gods listen
but do not ask how it is they hear
We are not careful of the truth in an emotional state (maybe referring to Americans), and thus do more harm than good. Someone who knows a dirty secret is not necessarily part of that secret. Again Shango claims to be a spirit or seer, and his information comes from the god Olorum.

142: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:31 am
Watcher opened a window looking onto Babylon at 2:29.
He holds the key to the ONLY door which opens to the lions den

143: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:33 am
TK - tributaries by definition stray from the river to leave the ocean
Not sure what to make of this one, or its significance…
144: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
How long does a cat hold a mouse before eating it?
This was in response to the question, “Is Natalee still alive?” We have two translations for this, depending on how optimistic one is. Someone said she was, and this referred to a ‘cat and mouse’ game of keeping her hidden versus people trying to find her. I think it means that she is no longer among us, since cats usually kill mice when they get tired of playing with them.
145: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon…
casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
“I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalee is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalee into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television.”
This seems to suggest Natale is alive. But I think it actually means that, as described, the drug trade out of South America controls Aruba, not the people or the Dutch. Indeed, the criminals are more powerful than the authorities. How can any justice be done?Incidentally, ‘casanostra’ refers to the Mafia…’it’s the Mob’ or something similar. I think the actual translation is ‘house of night’ or something.
146: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:39 am
Why would the Arawaks fear a lamb, tiny toothed little beast?
The chieftan would sacrifice the lamb,
but the demons would not leave for such a petty sacrifice
The Lamb knows, but doesn’t rule
Lambs aren’t knigs of the Jungle
The Arubans aren’t afraid of JVDS or his dad; they have no reason to. The P.M. will let Joren get charged and tried and maybe even convicted, but the drug lords will stay around just like always. Joren knows all this, but he is in no position to say anything!
Note: there was a small quote here, but I omitted it because Shango seemed only to be defending his way of giving us these clues!

147: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:50 am
Always remember that what is unseen is greater than what is seen
There are many lies for each truth.
All has been seen from afar
and whispered by olorum to an earthbound son
I must leave to feed the messengers
The gods are talking
Good Night






My Synopsis:

This is what I think happened the night Natalee disappeared, based on what Shango is saying:

Natalee hooked up with Joren one last night before she heads back home the next day (they apparently had met three days before someplace). They gambled, ate and drank (at Carlos and Charlie’s), and then went off someplace at Joren’s invitation. Now, some back story: about a week ago, someone anonymously approached Fox news and said Joren had a reputation for ‘taking advantage of young ladies’. With that in mind, Joren called his boys the kalpoes to give them a ride to a ‘rave’ he invited Natalee to. Like some number of women before her, Natalee found herself at an as-yet undiscovered location…the house at the end of the road not paved with gold. Here she was given X and date-raped when she passed out. Joren is afraid of some of the people there…island drug dealers, their bodyguards, et cetera…and he gets uncomfortable enough to leave. Perhaps, this was standing order for Joren: pick us up a girl, get your pay, and get the Hell out. Unlike all those other girls before her, though, Natalee died somehow…maybe things got out of hand, maybe she OD’ed, maybe she fell down some stairs or something. At any rate the people at this ‘rave’ suddenly have a dead girl on their hands. These guys have been paying bribes to the police chief Van Der Straaten among others for years to quietly ply their trade, so when they tell him, he has to scramble to keep things hidden. So him, Paulus Van Der Sloot (Joren’s dad and Van Der Straaten’s friend), and his lackeys start stalling the investigation long enough for the body to be disposed of. He goes to Paulus and says, “hey man. You better get your kid and thoe Kalpoes and get a story, because they’re going to be the fall guys here”. No problem; Paulus knows (and maybe helped Van Der Straaten on) the fine points of Dutch investigative procedure and how to totally botch an investigation. So he hammers down an alibi with his boy and the Kalpoes, Van Der Straaten stalls and fucks things up on purpose, hoping that everything will either blow over or die down. You see, the boys won’t be convicted on the shoddy evidence the prosecution will be allowed to find. The real murderers, who are drug lords far more powerful than Paulus and Van Der Straaten, will be safe and their drug trade and other sins kept intact, and the cycle of corruption will continue. And as for natalee’s family, what can they do? They get, “Oh so sorry. We did our best to convict, but the jury says otherwise. Sorry about your daughter, go home now” That is what the officials involved in this crap are hoping for. However, Shango says that if the cowboys (us Americans and certainly Beth Twitty and her camp) refuse to accept the ‘peace offering’ (this farce of an investigation and trial), AND we put enough pressure on our elected reps and get the news media onto this (they should be eating this up by now), then this all will come to light in time. And from what Shango says, that is what it will take for Beth to bring her daughter home. Somebody on that island knows where she is, but is afraid to tell.
Now I should mention that in the addenda is a post missing from what I have above; if you read it at the suggested translation, it indicates that Natalee was sold into prostitution, but she had to be hidden a few days until a safe (that is, secret) way to smuggle her off the island was found. This coincides with the visions that two psychics had, both involved her being hidden away and finally rescued. The Bible Code at http://www.revelation13.net/KingJames2c.html seems to suggest this theory; and I read someplace (possibly the above pages) that Reveleations 12 is about Natalee; she is the woman described therein and the dragon represents evils done to her and that threaten her. That is open to interpretation; it depends on what you believe. Of course, if Natalee is alive still and will be returned to her mother someday, it will not be through lack of searching; the Lord helps those who help themselves.

Let’s do it.




ADDENDA:

Sent by Dallas Also on 07/03/05- his interpretation of the ‘Babylon Gate’ that deals with the white slavery theory. I believe this is omitted from my above list.

Dan, here is my best version of my interpretation of the "key" as referenced in the exchange between Simian and Shango:

Shango:
Simian,why was the key from the Babylons Palace not used to open the Sumerians Door?
Why didn't the Powers that Be (who are mostly the Dutch) get the girl over to Venezuela (the Sumerians Door)? What happened to the normal procedure when a blonde girl gets grabbed?
They have become famished and Eden is beckoning.
The Venezuelans lare hungry for blonde girls and they have buyers in the Middle East (Eden!) for blonde girls.

Shango again (Dan, even though this is only minutes later, it seems to me that Shango had obtained the answer to his question about Eden beckoning):
Simian, his lordship did not bring the expected key.
Natalee was not the type of blonde that we can use, she is too high-profile. She is not the expected type of woman that is useful to us in this business.
The door never existed
So there was never any way we would be taking her as merchandise in our trade business
Eden is distant
We can't successfully send someone all the way over to the Middle East that is getting this much publicity

Simian:
The cowboys have only so much gold. The territory is rough.
Equusearch and the Americans won't stay here looking forever, so maybe the girl can be moved after they give up.
There are many secrets, but the Arawaks are helping.
The Aruban authorities are assisting in keeping the secrets undiscovered.
The palace is open to all, but the palace is a maze to most.
Most will not figure out what's really going on.

Shango:
Simian, his lordship did not bring the key for the Arawaks.
His lordship made the decision to not utilize "the key", that is, not use the normal transportation channel over to Venezuela, for the sake of not risking further damage to Aruba and its economy
So it will remain "cowboys and indians"
The posse was too late
The investigation can only be completed by Americans and the Holloways, because it is too late for the Powerful Dutch or the Drug Lords to quietly remedy the current situation.

Sent to me via IM at the scaredmonkeys discussion forums. This pretty much meshes with what Shango suggested, but it adds a bit of detail to the events of that night:

Na een aantal maanden ontdekten we nog een discotheek in Oranjestad: "Club Visage". Deze supergrote discotheek / poolcentrum staat niet in het centrum maar op een industriegebied net buiten het centrum. http://www.geocities.com/rene_72/aruba942.htm

Translation: After a few months on the island we found another discotheque in Oranjestad. "Club Visage" This real big discotheque/poolcenter isnt in the city, but in an industry area just outside Oranjestad.
This rene also told that it is a place where you can dance till 6 in the morning, they have salsa music and house.

The place burnt down a few years ago ( Light the fires, the gods are talking??) And someone on a forum assumed it would be build up again..I wonder how come they found this place only after a few months??


I think the rave party is somewhere outside, that is why the cowboys need to follow the music, and search at night.. See where the light is..I think it is on this industry area.
And I also do believe the people who work at casino's go there too, after their work is finished..

Did you also notice on the pictures on http://www.assmotion.com there are a few that have a sign...It says Vip Lounge.http://www.assmotion.com/photos%20arubash%202005/imagepages/image8.html and you need a vip card to go in there.

Maybe Natalee was taken inside, and Joran wasn't supposed to join her??
The club visage is outside town, don't know if the road is paved, the Marriott is on the same boulevard. no.101 and Visage was on no.152a. Between the numbers are companies, not normal houses I think.
Didn't the brothers say they left them at the Marriott??








INDEX:

A. Threads where shango speaks:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1190#comments
thread goes from june 26 @  9:57am to july 3 @ 11:31am
shango found from june 26 @ 3:09 until june 27 @ 8:04

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1191#comments
thread goes from june 26 @  2:33pm to june 27 @ 1:44pm
shango starts at 8:25pm

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1192#comments
thread goes from june 27 @  11:56am to 1:54pm
shango starts at 12:28pm

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1193#comments
thread goes from june 27 @ 1:56pm to june 28 @ 10:29am
shango starts at 9:41pm

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1202
thread goes from june 29 @  9:38pm  to july 1 @ 8:33am
shango found from june 30 @1:49am


B. Pictures / Photos

1. Arikok houses (at Arikok National Park I believe. Copyright as noted on photos)

 

 

 


Could these be the ‘houses at the end of the road not paved in gold’ first mentioned in Shango 47:3? Some have suggested that the house so mentioned is actually one of two houses owned by ‘Lorenzo’- a shady local character who owns a car lot and is one of the lions. Since Shango said not all lions leave their dens, I took it to mean the house in question was still inhabited.

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks Magnolia.  I do indeed have these and am glad you posted them for others to see.  I have them on my old hard drive, which is gone, never to be seen again.  Sigh!

[Lala'sMom]

Maybe someone will come and dance with me...someday...maybe...sigh..

Let's look at this post in bits and pieces...

THE KEY

*Mary=Natalee I agree, the reference is Natalee.
*The Lamb=Joran  Lamb...scapegoat...all the same.
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers Agree
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten  Debatable, there are "many diirty hands".   There is also an Arawak Dirty Hand.  Shango only said that Babalu opened a window...he did not say it was indeed the answer.
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot  Agreed.
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister Could this be a judge?  Someone that brings the key?
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario Disagree. Shango and Simian were working out semantics in their references here.  Sumerians and Arawaks can be interchangeable if you believe the Arawaks were the Arubans.
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba Debatable. Quite possibly the gamblers or the people in power.
*Arawaks=native Arubans Debatable.
*Arawak King=Prime Minister, or possibly the boat with the same name from the mainland that frequents Aruba. Debatable.
*Olorum=supreme being  God?  No, it means something else.
*46th Spirit=a reference to Bifrons, a spirit with the swollen features of a rotting corpse; makes people around him aware of their own mortality. Not sure what the connection is here… Who are the bifrons?  Plural...not just Joran.
*Teepees=dwelling of innocent people/carefree island culture was first suggested, but I think it really means the island’s businesses: casinos, hotels, etc. that would be hurt worst by a drop in tourism  No comment.
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ‘rolling’ Several interpretations concerning "roll".   It could be the drug.  Never established that Natalee went to a party to obtain that illustrious drug.  Could mean the act of moving around.  May be a casino reference.
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld; Natalee’s real killers (or those responsible for her death) Debatable.
*The Maze=location of rave parties/ seedy underworld of the island I have new ideas on this one. 
*Sacrifice=person or people who will take the fall if truth isn't exposed (The Lamb and shivas)  Agreed, but it never happened that way.
*Cowboys=Americans searching for Natalee; her family, EquuSearch, FBI, etc.  Which one?
*Indians= arubans  More semantics.
*Loot=Natalee; some think this means hard evidence of any kind
*Wampum= money, income to Aruba; the economy  Agreed.
*Occam's Razor=medieval principle that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed  It is often the simplest answer. In that case, Shango was wasting his time with the riddles.
*Doppleganger=an invisible shadow-self possessed by every human  Disagree. Irrelevant..just a person that was trying to be Simian or was another Simian. Maybe even Shango himself, in disguise.
*Eden=truth In Biblical terms, Eden was the place of the downfall...where lies were intertwined with the truth.
*cowboy gods=the real power in the U.S.: FBI, senators, et cetera Agree. For now.   

If anyone disagrees, please say so...I want a debate...of some kind.