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Mum
It's hard to track all those posts in order...Some are in one area of comments and then some are in comment sections of other FP posts. Is your email fixed yet? I can send you the link to the area I am copying from. It's not on the date of the posts, it is in the comments section of an earlier story. Start with June 21, 965 comments. I think that is where I found these. Lots of reading...now you know why I am crazy!
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on December 23, 2007, 02:22:46 PM
Mum
It's hard to track all those posts in order...Some are in one area of comments and then some are in comment sections of other FP posts. Is your email fixed yet? I can send you the link to the area I am copying from. It's not on the date of the posts, it is in the comments section of an earlier story. Start with June 21, 965 comments. I think that is where I found these. Lots of reading...now you know why I am crazy!
I haven't had it checked yet. Cuz is busy. It's my CPU that acted weird and have only emailed Klaas since. Did you read what I posted for you. Lala's. It says the post is not real, I think, but a whole lot changed between two of Simian's posts. I need to get you this get you the info.
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Is there a list of real Shango posts like there is for Simian? TIA
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Quote from: MumInOhio on December 23, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on December 23, 2007, 02:22:46 PM
Mum
It's hard to track all those posts in order...Some are in one area of comments and then some are in comment sections of other FP posts. Is your email fixed yet? I can send you the link to the area I am copying from. It's not on the date of the posts, it is in the comments section of an earlier story. Start with June 21, 965 comments. I think that is where I found these. Lots of reading...now you know why I am crazy!
I haven't had it checked yet. Cuz is busy. It's my CPU that acted weird and have only emailed Klaas since. Did you read what I posted for you. Lala's. It says the post is not real, I think, but a whole lot changed between two of Simian's posts. I need to get you this get you the info.
Where is what you posted about the above comment? Which post are you referring to? Shango or Simian? Yes, there has been much debate on what is real and what isn't. I was simply posting them in order as they appeared on the FP. Also, where is the excerpt from Joran's book you wanted me to read about the girlfriends? I looked but I don't think I am on the same page as you are. Help me out here.
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Quote from: Anna on December 23, 2007, 04:05:11 PM
Anna ...help me out please, who are these guys? TIA
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Quote from: Anna on December 23, 2007, 03:58:21 PM
Wow, Anna. Is this by that same Canadian guy that did those pictures early in the case? I wonder how he knows so much. I hope he is right, that the House of Rave will be revealed soon. Very interesting to me.
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No, SilverFox,
The character names Shango uses are mostly found in the Marvel Comic Series IronFist. This is the cover of one of the comic books from that series.
I am very unpopular when I point out the Shango was evidently quite the comic book fan based on his choice of monikers and phraseology. Marvel has Elders, Babylonians, Rave, House of Rave, etc.
In this series, Rave refers to the drug and not any sort of party. If I were a fan of Shango and Lord knows I am not, I would check the implications and use within the comic series as I believe that is where Shango got his references and not from being a great student of Literature as some suggest.
Just my unpopular opinion only.
Lala's doesn't allow me in this thread but I sneaked in while she was indulging herself in her new Christmas pencils and paper. She is the Hall Monitor and, well, we all know how those are, right? Anyway, just ran across a couple of Shango photos in my photobucket and thought I would post them as I am clearing out lots of old files. Someone might find it interesting.
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Quote from: MumInOhio on December 24, 2007, 10:54:30 AM
Quote from: Anna on December 23, 2007, 04:05:11 PM
Anna ...help me out please, who are these guys? TIA
I don't remember the name exactly but Lala's should know. Just ran across some old Shango/Simian photos in my bucket and thought I would post them for anybody who wants to keep them as I am clearing out lots of old stuff to make more room. For doggie photos, of course, haha.
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The guy with short hair looks like Claudius T Phillips. Not sure who the long haored one is.
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Quote from: sirensong on December 26, 2007, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Anna on December 23, 2007, 03:58:21 PM
Wow, Anna. Is this by that same Canadian guy that did those pictures early in the case? I wonder how he knows so much. I hope he is right, that the House of Rave will be revealed soon. Very interesting to me.
This appears to be from the comic book that has the Shango character in it. Thanks Anna for bringing this over. We had an entire thread with this stuff once...long before the crash that took it all away.
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Quote from: yapperz1 on December 26, 2007, 09:13:25 PM
The guy with short hair looks like Claudius T Phillips. Not sure who the long haired one is.
Thanks Yapp...I believe we referred to him as "the music man".
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Quote from: Anna on December 26, 2007, 05:41:23 PM
No, SilverFox,
The character names Shango uses are mostly found in the Marvel Comic Series IronFist. This is the cover of one of the comic books from that series.
I am very unpopular when I point out the
Shango was evidently quite the comic book fan
based on his choice of monikers and phraseology. Marvel has Elders, Babylonians, Rave, House of Rave, etc.
In this series, Rave refers to the drug and not any sort of party. If I were a fan of Shango and Lord knows I am not, I would check the implications and use within the comic series as I believe that is where Shango got his references and not from being a great student of Literature as some suggest.
Just my unpopular opinion only.
Lala's doesn't allow me in this thread but I sneaked in while she was indulging herself in her new Christmas pencils and paper. She is the Hall Monitor and, well, we all know how those are, right? Anyway, just ran across a couple of Shango photos in my photobucket and thought I would post them as I am clearing out lots of old files. Someone might find it interesting.
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Thus Shango was in the age range of 19-27. I doubt that Shango ever read much literature. It's a combination of marvel comics characters and Santeria practices with a few lucky guesses thrown in for good measure. Got any more stuff you would like to share? Thanks.
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Even though Shango may have been "into" Marvel comic books doesn't mean he didn't know the routine on that rock. MOO
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Quote from: yapperz1 on December 26, 2007, 09:13:25 PM
The guy with short hair looks like Claudius T Phillips. Not sure who the long haored one is.
Wow, thanks...I tried earlier to remember his name and find him in archives....the short haired guy might be his brother.....teacher at ISA??? or something similar?
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Quote
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"I am very unpopular when I point out the Shango was evidently quite the comic book fan based on his choice of monikers and phraseology. Marvel has Elders, Babylonians, Rave, House of Rave, etc."
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pre-Shango:
Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 8:21 pm
The Simian knows the Babylonians
. They need to plan the legal checkmate perfectly. They know that the elder knows his way around the palace. All gates need to be shut.
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Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Simian, who else plays in the orchestra?
A Babylonian….
Simian Says: June 28th, 2005 at 1:52 am
The Simian’s
umbilical
is buried close to the heart of the island. (his living, how he eats)
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:29 pm
Some
windows overlooking
Babylon have been opened
Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 2:59 am
Back ye fetid mongrel,
as the 46th are you; delegate of the 7th level of inferno,
not birthed, but spewed from the dark chasm of a nightmare! (there are 46 hotels)
Sounds like the Simian is a Babylonian........
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I thought the guy with short hair was Leo Burke or Burke Leo, can't remember, member of ALE and suspected of being one of the riddlers.
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http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/whatson/carnival1999/claudius/
Here's a link to a page that has Claudius' picture from 1999. For whatever reason, I was remembering him with longer hair...must be thinking of someone else.
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Quote from: Anna on December 27, 2007, 06:55:57 PM
I thought the guy with short hair was Leo Burke or Burke Leo, can't remember, member of ALE and suspected of being one of the riddlers.
Clyde Burke....iirc, he's a musician as well as ALE.
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