SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[COLOMBO]

and loesge must have been.................?????????

[2NJSons_Mom]

and loesge must have been.................?????????

Not sure, but I found this and oddly, the webpage has a poster that mentions White Houses   . (yes, I know it's spelled differently) 

http://www.loesje.nl/

[MumInOhio]

Lol...I went looking too...wonder if this is the same one from riehl world

Hoi Joran, hou je maar een beetje gedeisd jongen. Lijkt me wel zo verstandig. De mazzel.
Posted by: Loesje | Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 07:29 PM


What do you want to know?
Posted by: Loesje | Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 08:25 PM

[Lala'sMom]

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:05 pm
Dutch the west coast is busy…however, that road between the bushes is very hidden. Have taken girls there myself, but in cars. If you are on foot it would be so easy to hide in the mangroves. The fishermen’s huts. There are no streetlights there.

How come the “Black Team” was not aware is beyond me. They are all over in that area. At least they used to be.  Were they there all the time?  Is this a hint?

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:12 pm
The Black Team is a special force in Aruba that patrols amongst others beaches. Fully armed to the teeth, in black, with black hoods, with black SUV’s and ATV’s.   Did Simian know they were there that night? Could the story of the SG really be for the benefit of covering up the truth about the Black Team?

[Lala'sMom]

# Checkme on June 25th, 2005 6:53 pm

fluids were found in the karpoe’s honda
# edie on June 25th, 2005 6:53 pm

There is no new evedence today is there?
# Checkme on June 25th, 2005 6:55 pm

1. Karpoes car
2. vdS Jeep
3. vdS family car
# Simian on June 25th, 2005 6:57 pm

The phone call made in the small hours.


The more I read this stuff the crazier I get. LOL  Checkme was in Aruba...maybe worked with ALE...knew about the fluids in the car.  If you read some posts before this...the posters are surprised that Checkme verifies the fluid story.  Then the cars come up and Simian tells them there are 3 vehicles and then this is where it ends with Simian hinting that there was a phone call made in the early morning hours. 

Could this be the call to Steve Croes and not a call made to Paulus as some have thought?  If Joran was in the car with Deepak, Satish and Natalee...why did they impound the Sloots cars?  I have often thought about that.  Unless ALE knew that one or more of the Sloot cars was used at some time that night concerning Natalee, why would you impound them????? 

Here is the rest....take note of Checkme response...

# edie on June 25th, 2005 6:58 pm

Wow, I did not realize it was in 3 cars. Does anyone know who gave that psychic reading?
# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:00 pm

The boy is biting his tongue. It is all chewed up, bloody and sore.
# Checkme on June 25th, 2005 7:14 pm

And then the blue van…



The next comment from our mystery men is by Simian..

Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:28 pm

The father is trapped in a legal check mate.

The boy is mutilating his own tongue. He doesn’t want to let the old man down.

[Lala'sMom]

Just a little more and then I will stop...this is the rest of the conversation from the above posts....note the important stuff....another hmmmmm moment.

#  Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:28 pm

So, what kind of ‘body fluids’? Blood?

# I-Yell-Chris-In-Hallways on June 25th, 2005 7:29 pm

My heavyset wife, Ingrid, she wantto visit Mt brooke and see what it look like. To honor Natalee. I say natalee not yeat dead. Wait to see what hapen to her

# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:29 pm

Someone said her body fluids, but I think they have said it was not blood


# kristin on June 25th, 2005 7:29 pm

ashley79
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 35
Birmingham, AL Posted on: 1:37 pm, May 31, 2005 Report inappropriate post

Just wanted to warn everyone:
My best friend and her husband chaperoned a senior trip of 160 kids down to Aruba, and she returned last night. Her husband had to stay b/c they think that one of the girls was kidnapped, and is possibly in Venezuela now. Her parents flew down, and the State Dept., DEA and several other groups are involved now. She left with a guy from Carlos and Charlie’s, and the cops found out that he is a local drug dealer. Just wanted to let everyone know to please stay safe. If anyone in Aruba has any info., please let me know. I should know more later today. Just please say a prayer.


# kristin on June 25th, 2005 7:31 pm

now this girl ashley 79 has not been answering anyone’s comments and everyone is trying to get a hold of her. she was asked not to talk to anyone by the feds.


# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:31 pm

I have read that post before possibly on here. I don’t remember.


# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:32 pm

Then, if it wasn’t blood then what was it?

And was it confirmed that the ‘body fluid’ is Natalee’s?


# KeepHopeAlive on June 25th, 2005 7:32 pm

What did Ashley 79 say before she was told not to say anything more?


# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:33 pm

I don’t know…
It could be vaginal fluid. I do not know if that is even factual


# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:34 pm

That would mean she was in the car, AND co-operative. We already know she was in the car. Doesn’t really help much, or am I missing something??


# scaredshitless on June 25th, 2005 7:35 pm

Kristin, that is certainly SHOCKING news and maybe reason for Natalee’s mother’s hope that she’s alive


# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:36 pm

In the other car.


 I have asked this before, I think...maybe in my head....WHAT OTHER CAR???

[Lala'sMom]

I know I promised to stop...but this is the answer to a question...see what I mean about reading in context?  Simian hangs in there to tell what he knows...that there was a switch in the cars...Shango....bifrons? 

#  edie on June 25th, 2005 7:39 pm

I have heard that also… But why would any idiot transfer a body into 3 different vehichles


# scaredshitless on June 25th, 2005 7:40 pm

I don’t think those 3 stooges would have time to transport a body in 3 vehicles (my apologies to Moe, Larry and Curly)


# edie on June 25th, 2005 7:40 pm

I would think he would be pretty worried about getting caught.


# Peter on June 25th, 2005 7:41 pm

If there was that MUCH body fluid due to expiration, then that would be cause to criminally charge these clowns, I would think. But who knows in Aruba.


# Simian on June 25th, 2005 7:41 pm

Kalpoes went home. Joran stayed behind. Somebody had to come get him.



# The Robster on June 25th, 2005 7:42 pm

Sadly I believe Natalee’s body was disposed of and will never be found except by a stroke of good luck. There never will be a “corpus delecti” and all the murderer(s) or accessory(ies) has to do is not break, as they have up to now. They’ll never be convicted unless we have either a confession or an eyewitness. Someone has to make him/them crack or this will forever remain a mystery. Actually the white slave theory would be wishful thinking. Highly unlikely she is still alive!

Rob


# kristin on June 25th, 2005 7:42 pm

dad came to get him right simian, and they had natalee’s body with them?
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[COLOMBO]

Lala's:

With the 'Black Team' reference, I believe Simian may have been revealing who the two guards are.......

[COLOMBO]

his lordship is there to preserve babylon, not the elder:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/02/25/michael-posner-upset-over-excelsior-casino-security-tapes-to-abc/

[Lala'sMom]

Lala's:

With the 'Black Team' reference, I believe Simian may have been revealing who the two guards are.......

Do you mean he is talking about MJ and AJ or other guards?

[Lala'sMom]

his lordship is there to preserve babylon, not the elder:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/02/25/michael-posner-upset-over-excelsior-casino-security-tapes-to-abc/

His Lordship=Posner???

[MumInOhio]

his lordship is there to preserve babylon, not the elder:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/02/25/michael-posner-upset-over-excelsior-casino-security-tapes-to-abc/

His Lordship=Posner???

I have always thought Posner was involved in some way and there are rumors that Natalee met him earlier in the week. He was reportedly not on Aruba on the 29th., but then whose lies are we going to believe.

COLUMBO'S idea of the Wyndham as the 46th. has thrown a spanner in the works for me on this.

quote Lala's:

Guido helped to single them out by causing them to lose money and then Joran enters to save the day.  Trust is gained and then BAM! The spider catches the fly...entangled in a web waiting to be devoured.  A system that worked well most of the time. May have worked this time, but "something bad happened" along the way.

 

No wonder Guido took off in a hurry!!!!!!!!!!!

[MumInOhio]

Still in search of my 'blue eyed dutch boy' who ran off to Holland 2 days after Natalee disappeared...which wasn't Guido as he didn't leave until at least the 7th.

dialogue from final LCD thread on August 11, 2007, 07:07:02 PM

How did Guido get into this picture, charged as suspected as being accomplice to among other things heavy battery, "Grievous Bodily Harm". What time did Guido leave work that late night?

Anybody think that Guido was questioned in the first week of June 05 because of scratch/other witnesses, unrelated to Joran...initially?

I've a question. Did Jossy say or write that the scratches were on GvC not Guido?

He was detained last Wednesday. He was considered a witness in June, 2005. Since February of this year, he is now a suspect. Prosecutor in Aruba want him very quickly. Main evidence against him is witness made statements against him. He claims that he is innocent and never met Natalee last June.

Jossy says he will have to come back to Aruba and the case will go forward in court. Guido Wever is his name. He did not have scratches or bruises on him last June. He was interrogated last June. Good friend of Joran. Played Tennis with him and gambles with Joran. Jossy believes Guido is in bigger trouble than GVC ever was. GVC never knew Joran.

Also, according to Jossy Mansur of Diario in Aruba Guido Weaver is not the individual that was arrested the other day with the scratches on his face. Guido Weaver is another detained individual. The identity of the individual who was arrested with the scratches has yet to be identified.

Another interesting post....

Posted by: newswatcher | Oct 26, 2005 2:30:14 AM
What A List!
you can take Lorenzo's Cig Boat off as he has None.;^)
everyone @ his place was questioned about"the Night". his House Ripped up! poor guy.on a "TIP" from a Blog!!
He Is so unhappy Beth is saying Paul Vds is his Dad.. He loved his real DAD,and he is dead(2001)
He and his Mom are Ready to Have a Lawyer try to stop HER!
but who can Stop Beth's BS.
It's Crazy to hurt him and Drag him in de Mud.
He has Nothing to do with this case.
yes, he is not your average Guy..
so WHAT?
He has No police record.
He never met Joran or the K-boys.
He was Born in Holland 27 years ago.
Leave MY Lorenzo Alone!!!
Posted by: Key West | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 07:07 PM
I know when the truth comes out...it will bite everybody right in their a$$...

And another.....
Posted by: Arubaanse | Tuesday, February 07, 2006 at 05:35 PM

I know when the truth comes out...it will bite everybody right in their a$$...


And a little trivia...

Per Amigoe.com, the attorney whose office was searched is Mohamed Emerencia Duyneveld, and he was not detained. (It was “one of ten” locations searched. ...


This was in connection to the Luis Mansur arrest a few months back....Freddy's lawyer's name is Dianne Emerencia....another coincidence....


Where the heck is Freddy anyway?

[Lala'sMom]

aahhhhh! I remember Key West well. 

[2NJSons_Mom]

aahhhhh! I remember Key West well. 

That's definitely not the 'real key' COLOMBO was talking about.

[Lala'sMom]

aahhhhh! I remember Key West well. 

That's definitely not the 'real key' COLOMBO was talking about.

You remember her too.   LOL

[Lala'sMom]

Mum

Notice the date of this post...days before the  known questioning of LVR. Notice the word "again". 

americaninaruba

RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS #9
« Reply #831 on: June 18, 2005, 06:42:30 PM »
   
Quote from: "sb"
Quote from: "arubagirl"
sb, with the entrance of van Rijn into the picture, people are starting to get a bit scared. He has a very scary reputation, don't know if it's deserved or not.


Arubagirl do you speak Papiamento and are these translations ACCURATE?

Sorry for my ignorance but I have read like 20,000 posts this week.


sorry mio no tabta ki ann....ken ta van rijn?? mi no a tende esey



arubagirl

RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS #9
« Reply #843 on: June 18, 2005, 06:45:18 PM »
   
aia, van Rijn is the son of the late owner of the Volkswagen dealership. He is very close to van der Sloot, and he has been taken in for questioning.



hope

RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS #9
« Reply #848 on: June 18, 2005, 06:46:32 PM »
   
Quote from: "arubagirl"
aia, van Rijn is the son of the late owner of the Volkswagen dealership. He is very close to van der Sloot, and he has been taken in for questioning.


Arubagirl-  Can you give us a little background on this guy-- without putting yourself out there


americaninaruba

RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS #9
« Reply #859 on: June 18, 2005, 06:49:43 PM »
   
Quote from: "arubagirl"
aia, van Rijn is the son of the late owner of the Volkswagen dealership. He is very close to van der Sloot, and he has been taken in for questioning.


the took him again??!!! IM sorry I know who he is but I was lost..I didnt know they have him again....I undrrstood they interrogated him & released him later......wow ok I know who this guy is if you check my posts I "described" him!


arubagirl

RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS #9
« Reply #861 on: June 18, 2005, 06:50:03 PM »
   
This is all hearsay, so my apologies if it's not true:

van Rijn is 23, going on 24. He's very close to van der Sloot, and his father hanged himself after a life filled with drugs. I've HEARD that the son also does drugs, don't know it. Have also HEARD that he walks armed, but don't know for sure.

I've HEARD he lives at Jaraweg, but before he lived on the Savaneta main road.

[COLOMBO]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22696641/

http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-missingocwoman,0,7156030.story?coll=ktla-news-2

[COLOMBO]

Has Babylon's name changed in Aruba?

[Lala'sMom]

Has Babylon's name changed in Aruba?

Are you asking if the casino has been renamed?