SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[COLOMBO]

there will be 46 sacrifices

[COLOMBO]

MANY spirits watching.......

[Lala'sMom]

Shango on June 26th, 2005 9:53 pm

The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle


"Tribe" indicates to me an exclusive group...more so than the elders...maybe Dirty Hand is the leader of the tribe.

[COLOMBO]

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm
Every tribe has bad Indians

DirtyHand is well known

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:35 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
Many pioneers have settled with the tribe

[COLOMBO]

walks in many circles (families?)

[COLOMBO]

not a child of Babylon

[2NJSons_Mom]

COLOMBO, 

Are you the one who believes Mikey John is DirtyHand? 

[COLOMBO]

dunno who is DH......are you his friend?

[2NJSons_Mom]

dunno who is DH......are you his friend?

I dunno who is DH, either & can't claim to be his friend but if we don't know who he is, there's no telling  .  Just remembered someone mentioned someone in the Code Breaker Thread thought Micky John was HIM....Friend of Monkeys aka FOM claims to be a friend.  I'm just trying to follow your posts and eliminate some questions, is all.  Thank you for the response.  I'll go back to deciphering as best a middle aged woman can. 

[Lala'sMom]

dunno who is DH......are you his friend?

I dunno who is DH, either & can't claim to be his friend but if we don't know who he is, there's no telling  .  Just remembered someone mentioned someone in the Code Breaker Thread thought Micky John was HIM....Friend of Monkeys aka FOM claims to be a friend.  I'm just trying to follow your posts and eliminate some questions, is all.  Thank you for the response.  I'll go back to deciphering as best a middle aged woman can. 

You are correct in your thinking as it was stated many months ago by Eleye.  As I recall, Colombo also made that suggestion at one time.  That is why I have repeatedly asked the same question in various forms at one time or another.  I have no problem rehashing those thoughts...there are those that may object, but just as Lorenzo is fair game, so should any other person be also.  MOO

[COLOMBO]

I believe we were pointing out some very intriguing aspects of Shango as they related to current events at that time:

i.e. -
Joran: "Those guards will kill you."
Shango: 'arawaks hold the singing card from babylon, there is also a trio' (MJ had been on TV)
The story of the American doctor & wife
-among others

Then there was an avalanche of accusations that he was called a murderer, rapist, etc......then in his defense somebody said "he gave me a ride" or something to that effect -lucky for him I don't think the poster was Joran   

[Lala'sMom]

I believe we were pointing out some very intriguing aspects of Shango as they related to current events at that time:

i.e. -
Joran: "Those guards will kill you."
Shango: 'arawaks hold the singing card from babylon, there is also a trio' (MJ had been on TV)
The story of the American doctor & wife
-among others

Then there was an avalanche of accusations that he was called a murderer, rapist, etc......then in his defense somebody said "he gave me a ride" or something to that effect -lucky for him I don't think the poster was Joran   

Confused even more now.  Who's defense?  MJ?  TIA

[COLOMBO]

yes

[Lala'sMom]

Are you saying that MJ claimed that Joran gave him a ride?   Also, I remember when this first came up you and Eleye had some compelling ideas as to this being true....only thing that gives me pause is that I think the security guards were one of the singing cards and therefore can not be Dirty Hand.  Also, as I understand it, Dirty Hand would be in some  kind of governmental capacity... maybe even involved in the casino business and also holding an official position in Aruba.  What do you say?

[COLOMBO]

in trying to figure out who DH is,  we found:

Shango:  Why have all forgotten DirtyHand, who has aided son of SlanderFoot?
Simian: In the other car

In defense of MJ, somebody claimed that they had received a ride from him-which I found rather ironic-given the circumstances

as I understand it (for whatever that's worth):

Shango states that he's (DH) not an Arawak (but could be the in-law of one, subject to interp.)

[COLOMBO]

his power is that he could break the alibi....

[Lala'sMom]

in trying to figure out who DH is,  we found:

Shango:  Why have all forgotten DirtyHand, who has aided son of SlanderFoot?
Simian: In the other car

In defense of MJ, somebody claimed that they had received a ride from him-which I found rather ironic-given the circumstances

as I understand it (for whatever that's worth):

Shango states that he's (DH) not an Arawak (but could be the in-law of one, subject to interp.)

Now this is where I don't understand how you come up with this stuff...how did you come up with this in-law relation?  Where did that come from?  Never heard that one before. To me "not an arawak" means he's not Aruban.  What does it mean to you? 

Who is the someone that received a ride?  Joran?  Kalpoes? Someone else? Where is that one from?  I have missed something here and I don't know what it is.

[COLOMBO]

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm
Every tribe has bad Indians

DirtyHand is well known

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:35 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak
Many pioneers have settled with the tribe

[COLOMBO]

the arawaks hold the singing cards, there is also a trio (sounds like a card game, right?)
[those would be the LE]

Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand
[not referencing Blackjack here]


The Arawak Nation (gov't)
The Arawak King (Oduber?)

[Lala'sMom]

the arawaks hold the singing cards, there is also a trio (sounds like a card game, right?)  Trio would mean Joran and the Kalpoes. Do you think it's others and not them?
[those would be the LE]

Even if you play cards in the house of babylon as an arawak, you still have DirtyHand
[not referencing Blackjack here] Arawak would be the Arubans or ALE?  I still can't make just one of them fit...I can fit both at different times.  You are much better at focusing on one group than I am.


The Arawak Nation (gov't)  I thought was the Arubans.
The Arawak King (Oduber?)  Prime Minister of Aruba.

Remember there is an Arawak Dirty Hand also.  So there is more than one main Dirty Hand and many other small ones.