SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[COLOMBO]

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 6:04 pm
Lucy you are wrong. It was just a simple party at his house. He was “there whole time”.

[COLOMBO]

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:55 pm
He has an alibi. So tight. So tight.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 6:04 pm
Lucy you are wrong. It was just a simple party at his house. He was “there whole time”.

[MumInOhio]

Any chance the term "host" refers to the casino? A casino "host" takes care of its good clients,making sure everything is covered for. Just throwing it out there...

hi...bc73...I have considered this especially as he was there 'the whole time'. Posner always came to mind as he said he was in the US on that day, which is why I asked about the 46th.

[MumInOhio]

COLUMBO …I believe Freddy was arrested sometime between 6/16 and 6/23. If this was the case then he could very well be the 5th suspect. But if Freddy was detained on June 9th. as recently quoted by Marianne Croes, then whoever was arrested on the 11th would be the 5th. But then again if Lorenzo was arrested really ‘early’ on that would again change everything, as that would make Lorenzo the 1st. and not the 5th.

But then again Paulus was at a birthday party in the Netherlands earlier in the week…and that’s his alibi…so how could he meet Natalee….

[COLOMBO]

Fifth suspect in custody after U.S. teen's disappearance
Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 10:01 p.m. EDT (02:01 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/aruba.holloway/index.html


Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:50 pm
Some people on the other side of the pond know more than what they are saying. There testimony, there’s security footage, there are witnesses.
Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 4:56 pm
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pm
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pm
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left? (easy if there was no party)

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:09 pm
A scorned lover needs a motive? Drives some people to some crazy deeds.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:13 pm
A jealous boyfriend was at home with some friends. He couldn’t have done it. Sometimes friends will cover for each other.

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 5:16 pm
He had to be let go (he=5th suspect)
Paulus' duties were suspended on or about 6/17/05.
He had been brought in for questioning that day


Shango says it a bit differently:
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.

[COLOMBO]

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 11:06 am
The important “others” are the ones that supported the alibi.

[Lala'sMom]

Simian Says: June 22nd, 2005 at 6:04 pm
Lucy you are wrong. It was just a simple party at his house. He was “there whole time”.

So there is a party involved. 

[COLOMBO]

need to know what Lucy said......

[Lala'sMom]

COLUMBO …I believe Freddy was arrested sometime between 6/16 and 6/23. If this was the case then he could very well be the 5th suspect. But if Freddy was detained on June 9th. as recently quoted by Marianne Croes, then whoever was arrested on the 11th would be the 5th. But then again if Lorenzo was arrested really ‘early’ on that would again change everything, as that would make Lorenzo the 1st. and not the 5th.

But then again Paulus was at a birthday party in the Netherlands earlier in the week…and that’s his alibi…so how could he meet Natalee….

OOPS! Back to the drawing board once more. 

[COLOMBO]

Simian is describing an alibi, not necessarily a party

[COLOMBO]

COLUMBO …I believe Freddy was arrested sometime between 6/16 and 6/23. If this was the case then he could very well be the 5th suspect. But if Freddy was detained on June 9th. as recently quoted by Marianne Croes, then whoever was arrested on the 11th would be the 5th. But then again if Lorenzo was arrested really ‘early’ on that would again change everything, as that would make Lorenzo the 1st. and not the 5th.

But then again Paulus was at a birthday party in the Netherlands earlier in the week…and that’s his alibi…so how could he meet Natalee….

OOPS! Back to the drawing board once more. 

tell simian

[COLOMBO]

and CNN.....

[COLOMBO]

what is being kept hidden is not a suspect

[MumInOhio]

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 11:06 am
The important “others” are the ones that supported the alibi.

Now I am lost...LOL...Paulus said he had to go home to his younger sons...they could be considered 'important others', but this does not allow for him being host of a party. Or do you think this was a 'party' that we weren't told about and didn't happen anyway, except to alibi Paulus...wow...now I'm totally confused!

[Lala'sMom]

need to know what Lucy said......

Hang on... I will find it for you...

[COLOMBO]

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 11:06 am
The important “others” are the ones that supported the alibi.

Now I am lost...LOL...Paulus said he had to go home to his younger sons...they could be considered 'important others', but this does not allow for him being host of a party. Or do you think this was a 'party' that we weren't told about and didn't happen anyway, except to alibi Paulus...wow...now I'm totally confused!

??????? wha-huh?????

[Lala'sMom]

#  Simian on June 22nd, 2005 5:55 pm

He has an alibi. So tight. So tight.


# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 5:57 pm

Sunny 71
She may have slept at other classmates room. If they hung around together, came to the hotel, and slept in somebody elses’s room.


# cancon on June 22nd, 2005 5:57 pm

ah wait a minute, wait a minute, having experienced this somewhat myself……

the rumour de jour is that Natalee only slept in her room one night, could it be Natalee did not get along with her specific roomates which would explain why they seemed so clueless last night on Fox, had there been some big blowout so Natalee was bunking with others????


# Checkme on June 22nd, 2005 5:57 pm

Lucy, CRS did an excellent recap for us all. Please don’t confuse me anymore with Simian. Just like van Sijn and van Rijn…

One thing I do want to repeat. It is so easy to throw mud at our authorities. Please don’t. We are all doing our best every day to have NH reunited with her family. We are not very good at the media show which is why I am also happy our system is closed while the investigative process is taking place.

I am not part of “the Aruban Authority”. Just a Human Being living in Aruba (duhhh…)

Vanessa, did you ever take a look at the links I posted for you? I send them with my warmest regards.


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:57 pm

Sim - i am going to have to think about this tonight and i will have some questions tomorrow morning.


# cancon on June 22nd, 2005 5:59 pm

or Natalee was having a feud with one or two of the girls and thusly purposely avoiding them, only spending the min time in the room……..


# crs on June 22nd, 2005 5:59 pm

Checkme, have a good night my friend, hope you have some more details tomorrow!!



# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 6:01 pm

The first guy she met has all the motive. The second guy is scared shitless in a cell.

I have heard from Americans living in Aruba and and they think something completely different.



# Lucy on June 22nd, 2005 6:01 pm

Simian

Possible alibis (or alibies) for #5:
Was in jail for DUI of illegal substances
Was filming himself
Was making a delivery
Was in Curaà §ao
Was painting his truck in Savaneta
None of the above


# Checkme on June 22nd, 2005 6:03 pm

Take care, CU tmrw. Over and out.


# Simian on June 22nd, 2005 6:04 pm

Lucy you are wrong. It was just a simple party at his house. He was “the whole time”.

[Lala'sMom]

Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 11:06 am
The important “others” are the ones that supported the alibi.

Now I am lost...LOL...Paulus said he had to go home to his younger sons...they could be considered 'important others', but this does not allow for him being host of a party. Or do you think this was a 'party' that we weren't told about and didn't happen anyway, except to alibi Paulus...wow...now I'm totally confused!

Maybe he went to a party...now how can you host a party and not really have a party?  The 5th suspect was the host of a party...the party goers?  Yes, it doesn't take much to confuse me. 

[COLOMBO]

This holds more water than the CNN headline?

[COLOMBO]

Come to think of it, I thought I heard Beth drop his name on Greta one night, and-if memory serves me....and I may be wrong here......but I thought it made ALE quite upset