This is the second part...see post above.
lies with the Arubans (perhaps only they can really drive the drug and crime out)!
80: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:01 pm
If the door to Eden is to be opened with that key, it will be tomorrow
or forever remained closed
If the scandal is exposed due to evidence, it will be on June 27 or not at all. This may refer to Natalee’s body. It was not exposed due to evidence, so that route is blocked.
81: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:05 pm
DirtyHand has worked for the elders for a long time
Self-explanatory
82: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 11:12 pm
Even Flying Birds Sing.
If the key does not arrive tomorrow, that door to Eden will remain closed
I must feed the messengers.
Not sure what to make of this one. ‘Sing’ refers to informing the authorities, but as for flying bird…maybe this means someone not on the island might tell something. If the key to the case is not found by 06/27 the truth will be hidden.
27th
83: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:12 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found
Poster babalu must have guessed the truth. If Natalee’s body is not found today, it will never be found (and of course it wasn’t). Looking back, blogger babalu guessed DirtyHand’s identity as well.
84: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:26 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting.
Simian your Doppleganger is with us
Babalu guessed something about the Dutch corruption in his post of 12:30 am. See thread archives linked below.
Babalú Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned
“No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis” Van Der Straaten!
June 27th, 2005 at 8:04 pm
85: Shango Says:
The young Lamb der Sloot shall be the sacrifice for the Arawaks and the cowboys.
All will sit around the fire and feast on scapegoat.
The gods are talking
Joren shall be tried to appease the natives and the Americans, and if he’s convicted everyone will be happy (they’ll eat it up)
The gods are talking.
86: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:06 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into Babylon on his 12:31 A.M. post
DirtyHand is alive and well
Apparently someone asked if DirtyHand was a living person. Not sure.
87: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:41 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA
This appears above, with the same wording. Natalee went with Joran to the shoddy rave house, rolled X intentionally or not, and got into trouble. DNA evidence can be found there. ‘While of gold bricks the road is not paved’ seems to indicate a dive or flophouse, or maybe just a plain old building like at the National Park?
88: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive
DirtyHand is as yet safe and hidden.
89: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:46 pm
Shango said the key to the Hague did not exist
that door to eden remains closed
until the house with the path
But not of gold
is entered
The connection with the Dutch officials and this scandal is in a ‘house with a path not of gold’ Until that evidence is found, the scandal will stay hidden. The evidence at that house is VERY important!
90: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
See above; we have determined DirtyHand is Van Der Straaten
91: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:51 pm
DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder
Van Der Straaten is known among the locals, the Dutch officials, and PVDS.
92: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
Outsiders brought into the Arawak tribe walk in many circles, nameless
Outsiders don’t know enough to navigate the island or its ways
93: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:59 pm
DirtyHand can bring down all houses
DirtyHand is the key
His reach is long
He walks in all circles
consort to all, except for the gods
He knows the sacrifice is not responsible
DirtyHand can expose this whole affair. He is the key. He is known in many circles and is known to all, except the highest officials in the Netherlands. He knows the boys did not kill Natalee.
94: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Of whom is the young Babylonian afraid?
Why won’t he talk?
Who is Joran afraid of? Why won’t he spill everything? He stands to lose a lot from this!
These drug lords on Aruba are not far short of Pablo Escobar; Joren is most likely afraid for his life or that of his parents…which is why he is still NOT come forth with the truth!
95: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:05 pm
The dice throwers know
the maze of the rave
and the fly that entered the trap
DirtyHand is the key
He walks in many circles
The gamblers of the island know about the raves and the drug scene, and they know Natalee went to one. Again, DirtyHand is the key. I think that someone at the casino (maybe one of Natalee’s companions) heard something about where she and Joren went.
Has anyone questioned the other kids who went on the trip about any of this?
96: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:06 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles. He walks in many circles.
The boys (Kalpoes and Joren) were never near a beachwith Natalee like they claim! Every trip they make to a beach is just part of a cover-up to make things look good to the cowboys (Americans). He (DirtyHands) is well-known by all and knows everything that happened.
97: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:09 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles
DirtyHand knows this
Children of the Elders play in the maze,
but DirtyHand is afraid to rave
The boys are not clever enough to cover or protect themselves, and DirtyHand knows this. The boys never went to the beach with Natalee. The Dutch on Aruba go to many raves and do other questionable things (see my synopsis below), but DirtyHand doesn’t do any of that.
98: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:29 pm
Babylonians and Shivas do not play with sandcastles
Follow the music!
Mary who was not a Virgin entered the maze to discover it’s secrets
The lamb is scared
The fires are lit
But now the lamb is a goat
The boys are not clever enough to cover or protect themselves. They never went to any beach! Follow the music- must refer to the underground rave scene on the island. Natalee went to a rave and possibly found out something that got her in trouble? Maybe she met someone dangerous? Joren is scared, but it may be too late for him…
99: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll
ask the men who play dice and “roll”
Natalee’s was never by the ocean or the beach; ask the gamblers and the ravers who ‘roll’ X.
100: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:32 pm
THE DRAX SCORES\
drax Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:30 pm
Young Babylonians and Shivas do not build sand castles=
they weren’t on the beach?
101: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:33 pm
Follow the music
Investigate the raves!
102: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
The people Natalee gambled with at the casino know what happened to Natalee, or have a clue. They know about the raves. The gamblers there (not necessarily locals!) are somehow involved.
103: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:41 pm
Mary ROLLED through the Maze
There is more than one house of music
the Lamb is a Scapegoat
Natalee did X or was given X at the rave, or maybe she went from one party to another.
Joran did not kill Natalee
104: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:42 pm
The Lamb returned to the fold
Mary Rolled
And the lions played
Joren went home, perhaps he was afraid of the people at the party. Natalee got high on X, and the ravers took advantage of her situation…I feel so sorry for her, even now. Again, see the synopsis.
105: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:45 pm
Windows looking onto Babylon are being opened by the ThreadSurfers
Us bloggers on scaredmonkeys.com are getting closer to the truth.
106: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder.
The lamb is a scapegoat.
The raves offer many pleasures including sex (rape)? DirtyHand knows what happened. So does Paulus Van Der Sloot. Joren did not kill Natalee. Could deflowering of forbidden fruits specifically mean a place where pretty young girls are lured and date raped? See the entry below- gardeners would mean the guys who prey on these girls.
107: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
DirtyHand has walked through the maze
He knows of the forbidden fruit
and the gardeners
DirtyHand has been to raves and similar parties. He knows what all goes on there…and who goes there too.
108: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s fetid depths.
Tell the Cowboys!
The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.
Why haven’t the authorities investigated the raves?! The Arubans hide the raves for the sake of the Dutch officials. Why hasn’t anyone given an inside explanation to give to the FBI! Tell the Americans about the raves and the drug scene that goes with it!
109: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:57 pm
All know of the music
beckoning lost souls
to enter the seven levels of inferno
who gave Mary the poison wine of Bacchus?
Enter the Maze.
Everyone knows of the raves (on the island), and what they offer. Who drugged Natalee? Go to the raves to find out.
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110: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:01 pm
The Drax asks a question for which he already provided an answer.
111: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:04 pm
Babalu opened a window looking onto Babylon with his 12:30 A.M. post
112: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:13 pm
Lucy spoke at 10:56
Lucy Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 10:56 pm
Someone said last night that Dirty Hand was somebody in the police.
Van Der Straaten…with this many people coming in and out of the forum discussion, repeat questions are inevitable
113: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
DirtyHand does not play with the lions
but he has entered the maze
the lamb is a scapegoat
DirtyHand knows
So does the Elder
DirtyHand does not associate with the gamblers and criminals, but he’s been to or knows about their raves. He and Paulus know Joren didn’t kill Natalee.
114: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:23 pm
Follow the music
into the maze
the lions know they are being stalked
the gamblers and other Rollers talk
tell the cowboys!
Investigate the raves. Natalee’s real killers know they’re not out of danger yet, because there is no honor among thieves and someone may still squeal. Tell the Americans (FBI)!
115: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:26 pm
The Arawaks will not enter the maze unless the cowboys refuse the peace pipe
Follow the music,
the lions are not tame
DirtyHand knows,
so does the elder
The natives will not investigate or do anything about the raves unless the Americans do not accept the trial. The real killers are ravers, the ‘lions’, and both Dirtyhands and Paulus know this.
116: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:29 pm
Some windows overlooking Babylon have been opened
The cowboys need to find the right path,
but they can’t hear the music.
The Arawaks know
Stupid Cowboys with Arawak Guides
Cowboys don’t read smoke signals,
they must enter the maze!
Shango needs to feed the messengers. The Gods are talking.
Some truths have been revealed, but the Americans need to find the right way to investigate further, but they don’t understand how they should do this. The Americans are useless as long as they rely on local authorities, because the Americans aren’t familiar with Aruba and are being misled. They must investigate the raves!
117: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating
afraid to walk through the maze
why don’t the arawaks ambush the lions?
The cowboys don’t know.
DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation
The gods are talking
Natalee went to a ‘rave’ and ended up with a bad crowd. Joren was afraid of some of the people there, and left Natalee with them. Why don’t the Arubans do something about the drug dealers?The Americans don’t know about them. Van Der Straaten knows, but he’s afraid of the consequences for himself.
118: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:48 pm
The Simian was incorrect about the package from the Hague
I told the Simian, but the Simian would not listen
The simian is not a simian, but an austrolopithecus
Delightful banter between Shango and Simian; they were kind of rivals on the boards. Shango apparently told Simian something about his guesses, which Simian ignored.
119: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:43 pm
Mary rolled into the maze
to play with lions
but it was not a game
the lamb ran bleating
afraid to walk through the maze
why don’t the arawaks ambush the lions?
The cowboys don’t know.
DirtyHand knows, but is afraid of the Arawak Nation
The gods are talking
Natalee went to the rave but ended up with a bad crowd that intended or did her serious harm. Joren fled, afraid to stay. Why don’t the natives bring the killers to justice, because the Americans are on the wrong trail? Van Der Straaten knows, but he is afraid for his reputation.
110: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:52 pm
Threadsurfers on other beaches are oblivious to the Maze and the lions
without exposure, the arawaks will deceive the cowboys
they will leave without loot
Most people(outside of Aruba) are unaware of the raves and the people who prey on young girls there. Unless this is exposed, the Arubans will not let the U.S. know about this dark side to the island and will not find Natalee.
111: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:56 pm
Shango is the god of justice
alive in many forms
he who speaks through Oxum through lightning
and himself through thunder
father of the violent dance
diviner of secrets of the seven levels of inferno
bound to truth even as it burns
so that justice may be brought.
I think Shango is either someone on the inside of the investigation- either in the investigation camp or an honest Aruban- who wants the truth to be known for whatever reason. This was probably in response to someone’s question to his or her identity.
112: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 11:59 pm
Only those who cRave music go into the Maze
Only people who know about the raves and what goes on there go to them; they are hidden and hard to find by accident.
28th
113: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:04 am
The gods of Babylon have orchested the refrain for the Arawak choir
the music which holds the answers lies within the maze
the cowboys will smile sweetly as the chorus sings
backs turned to the maze
never hearing a single note
from the poison song
The Dutch officials have control over what the Arubans will say- this is a reference to the information-controlling committee the officials imposed this past week in my mind. The answers lie within Aruba’s underworld. The Americans will believe anything they’re told unless the whole lie is exposed, and will not think twice about the mazes, never know their evil.
114: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:11 am
All the Arawaks know the Maze which plays the poison songs
All the Arubans know which raves are in ‘the mazes’ (the seedy, dangerous ones)
115: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:14 am
How those innocent young flies enter the trap with honey laden notes
Someone on the blog suggested that raves are by invitation only, and that these lions look for pretty girls to invite and take advantage of. In Natalee’s case, something went wrong and she did not survive as most victims do. See synopsis.
116: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:19 am
Shango must leave to feed the messengers. The gods are talking.
See above; Shango says this a lot, actually.
117: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the notes
to the poison house
where the children of the babylonians
and the arawak nation
meet, under cover of delusion.
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.
Tell the cowboys!
Follow the clues to the rave house, where the Dutch and the Aruban underworld meet secretly. The predators who killed Natalee and prey on young girls are here still; ask the gamblers which ones did it. And inform the Americans!
118: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:28 am
Not all lions leave their den
Some of the ravers/ lions live at the house?
119: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:34 am
That which is hidden shan’t be found in the light
The raves are vacant during the day?Or does this again mean you have to know where to look to find these ‘underground’ raves.
120: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:37 am
Yliana and Subdude have both opened windows which look into the heart of babylon
do not stray from your paths
you hold the key in hand
Two bloggers made correct guesses to what Shango said (see thread archives)
We are on the right track figuring this out.
121: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 12:39 am
The threadsurfers are opening the door to babylon
be careful of the lions
DirtyHand does not have them tamed
but he can enter the den
tell the cowboys
We bloggers are slowly revealing the truth about Aruba and the Dutch corruption, but be careful of the ravers and drug lords who aren’t controlled by Van Der Straaten (even though they know him). Inform the Americans (FBI)
122: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 1:11 am
See Subdude / Iliana 12:34
123: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 1:32 am
For the doubters: You do not need to see a grain of sand in your eye to know it is there
You don’t have to see something plausible to judge it plausible. This is all possible, even if it sounds far-fetched.
124: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 1:55 am
Find the music
Only David left the den alive
Find the rave. Only Joren left the rave alive; whenever she died (either that night or sometime while captive), Natalee died at the rave house.
125: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:24 am
This Simian is not the Simian. It is a Doppleganger.
The fake Simian showed up again. I’d like to know how Shango could tell!
126: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:27 am
Crypticism leads to tributaries of thought which would not usually leave the MainStream
Shango’s hints are in riddles to make us think for ourselves. This path to the truth cannot be found by ordinary means.
127: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:29 am
Babylon is Falling
The Arawak teepees will be crushed
will they sacrifice the Lamb or the Lion
to make the cowboys smile
Things are beginning to unravel; Aruba will suffer for this. The question is: will they convict the boys or the true murderers to make the Americans happy?I think Shango is saying that enough damage has been done already to make the lions back off and play it cool for awhile.
128: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:39 am
The arawaks must hunt the lions
in the place of darkness
house of secrets
The Arubans must help expose this deceit and bring the murderers to justice.
129: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:45 am
Shango finds it very humorous (and quite fitting) that a Frenchman would assume the moniker of a Primate
Apparently Shango doesn’t like the French. But hey, who does?
130: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:50 am
The babylonian and the shivas did not build castles in the sand
they lost to the lions
dirty hand knows
the elder knows
and so do the arawaks
the cowboys are far from the house of babylon
the maze shall remain dark to all but the arawak nation and the elders
Joren and the Kalpoes did not make up their own stories; they were coached by PVDS because of the threat the lions hold over them. Van Der Straaten knows what is going on; so do the Arubans. The Americans are far from the scene, and this shall not be revealed to them easily.
131: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 2:59 am
The Simian Doppleganger is upset because the arawak nation is hiding the truth from the cowboys
DirtyHand knows
Simian knows
The Simian stated for 2 days, the key would come from the hague the next day
Shango said no two times
Is Simian a DirtyHand too
Has the Simian played with the lions
in the houses of ill-repute and poison notes
where the innocent flies are lured?
Has the Simian, primate that he is, fed with the other animals?
Back ye fetid mongrel, as the 46th are you; delegate of the 7th level of inferno,
not birthed, but spewed from the dark chasm of a nightmare!
Simian, another blogger, was upset at the Arubans for not coming forward and exposing this. Shango kept telling Simian that the Netherlands (or maybe the Aruban P.M.) would not intervene. Perhaps Shango knows Simian and suspects him of trying to lead this inquiry astray; perhaps he is one of the lions?
132: Shango Says:
June 28th, 2005 at 3:06 am
Information the Simian left for 2 days was incorrect
His lordship brought nothing from the Hague
the simian listens to whisperings of the arawak tongue foolishly thinking he is an insider.
Shango says Simian trusts the Dutch too much and does not carefully sort what he hears from Arubans.
30th
133: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 1:49 am
All of Shango’s information comes from the higher power, Olorum
Shango has not danced with the lions, nor Arawaks,and does not keep their company
Shango does not know the ravers, and he is not Aruban.
Eyes of god may look from afar with great acuity.
Shango is a seer of some kind, so he says. I doubt it.
The resolution to find Mary lies with the Arawak Nation
Natalee’s body will only be found when the Arubans feel it is safe to reveal it or look for it.
Dirty Hand has bound the Arawak Nation with Babylonian Rope
Van Der Straaten kept pressure on Aruba to keep quiet with help from Dutch officials.
The Lamb and the two Shivas whisper in the dark,
The boys are conspiring among themselves,
while the lions pace silently in the bush.
threatened by the ravers, Natalee’s real killers.
Dirty Hand is the link!
Van Der Straaten must be pinched, hard, and soon!
The lamb, the shivas, the elder whispering, exiting like thieves in the night, clothed with invisible armor
The boys won’t be convicted in the end, and all involved will try to hide from accusations
If Dirty Hand falls, so does Babylon, but too, the Arawak Nation shall suffer.
If van Der Straaten is exposed, the whole affair will be brought to light but Aruba will suffer
Threadsurfers listen!
The lamb shall run anew in virgin fields, cropping sweet grass which should remain untouched.
To the bloggers: if Joren goes free, he will keep his questionable ways
The Lamb has sins, but the lions have sharper teeth.
Joren is not free of guilt, but the lions (the people at the rave that night) murdered Natalee.
A new key must be found to open unknown doors.
The standard investigations will not work through this cover-up
The first concern of the Arawak nation is wampum.
The Arubans are concerned with tourism dollars first
But unseen tides pull babylonian seas through Arawak Moats, bittering the waters.
But unknown people will force Netherlands influence this case and make it hard to discern
DirtyHand and the Lions must see the light of Arawak Day, or forever walk in plentiful fields.
Van Der Straaten and the murderers must be exposed now, or they will never be!
The dead shall eternally sleep if a clamour is not made.
If this isn’t exposed, Natalee’s body will never be found
Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the fetid pool of deception.
We can start to unravel this deceit with the help of Paulus and Joran
The rule of the Arawak King is the Final word.
The Prime Minister has the ability to hinder or help the investigation
DirtyHand has fouled the air for all nearby, but the Arawak Nation will claim Babylonian Authority prevents them from hunting Lions, and DirtyHand.
Van Der Straaten’s silence has caused this cover-up, but the Arubans will claim they were silenced by Dutch officials
But the Arawak king controls destiny of all. The Arawak king has DirtyHands and DirtyFeet. If he is to reign anew, he cannot be soiled more.
The P.M. must come clean with everything if he wants to stay the Prime Minister.
The babylonians have ruled the Arawak Nation through deception and stealth, and their charges, the Arawaks, speak now with the same forked tongue, on behalf of their king.
The corrupt officials have kept the Arubans quiet through political power, and so the Arubans lie as well.
The gift the cowboys ask of the king of the Arawak Nation is a mere trifle.
The Americans do not ask much to find out what they want to know.
All ye who sing in the cyber-chorus lower your voices not!
Bloggers, keep people informed of this event!
It has been proven that the lamb, the shivas, and the elders are not the breach in Arawak Armour!
The Kalpoes and Van Der Sloots are not able to break this case alone
Let us hunt Lions, The King, and Dirty Hand.
Let’s find the murderers, expose van Der Straaten, and the corrupt Dutch officials
The lions pace silently in the bush, while the king seeks pleasures with his concubines.
The ravers are just waiting to commit this crime again, if their leader is not caught
Threadsurfers! What is sought is not hidden.
What we are looking for is no mystery.
The Lamb and the elder are not the keystone in the Arch of Corruption.
This scandal goes far beyond the Van Der Sloots.
Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.
Seek van Der Straaten’s guilt and that of the Prime Minister, who try to shift blame elsewhere
If the head of the beast is in plain view it is folly to attack protected flanks.
If you know who the leaders are, don’t waste time with the lackeys
Threadsurfers, DirtyHand is more vulnerable than the Arawak King and your lances should point in his direction.
Work on Van Der Straaten first; he will break easier than the P.M.
He is the weak link, if he tumbles, all fall with him….. The lamb, the shivas, the elder
If he cracks, all will be revealed.
Shango looks from afar but speaks with truth. He does not converse with the Simian, or any other worldly sources, and attempts to bring direction to speculation
Shango communes with the gods; he answers to no mortal
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134: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 1:58 am
Shango does not fear the Simian
Shango feels the Simian speaks speculatively
desiring to know, but remaining clothed in darkness
Shango does not give Simian any credit, Simian guesses and does not know.
135: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:04 am
Observe all communications from Shango and judge from their worth….
Look at what Shango has said so far, and judge for yourself its worth.
DirtyHand is the the Keystone!
Van Der Straaten is the key!
The lamb is in their fold, and the shivas.
Joren and the Kalpoes are mere pawns
Threadsurfers, if they cannot out a lamb to manger, how will they deal with lions?
If investigators can’t get the truth out of the boys, how can they convict the real criminals?
DirtyHand is the key and may leave soon to avoid attention from the cowboys and the fort
Van Der Straaten is leaving in mid-July. We’re running out of time!
136: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:07 am
If the keystone falls, it will crush the lamb, the shivas, and the elder
the noise of the crashing arch shall scare the lions from their den
DirtyHand is the key to All!
Take down Van Der Straaten, and the rest will follow. The fall of the mighty will scare up Natalee’s real killers.
137: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:11 am
All Secrets are hidden in Plain View
Evidence leading to this scandal and cover-up are not hidden, just not apparent
138: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:13 am
The Arawaks make the cowboys dance so the smoke signals are lost in the wind
How can one hunt for lions without a local guide?
How can one hunt for lions with fishing gear?
DirtyHand still commands Arawak war parties, confusing outlanders…
Time is the enemy of the cowboys
and friend to the Arawaks, the Babylonians, and the hunted Jungle beasts
The Arubans misled the American investigators. You can’t find the murderers without an honest guide. You won’t find Natalee’s body at sea; the lions are on land, after all. Van Der Straaten still has power over the local authorities. Time is of the essence!
139: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:14 am
Shango did not mention a Handicap
That was the fetid Simian
Apparently Simian mentioned being handicapped, and someone got him and Shango confused?
140: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:18 am
For those who think Shango has danced with the lions
or walked the maze
they have not read diligently
Eyes of God see from afar
If ye have truth, ask not how it was begotten…
Shango says he is not an insider to the drug and underground rave scene. He says to accept the truth and not question his sources.
141: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:26 am
In your senseless rage you wave your sword recklessly
as such you would sever the limb even of a defender of the faith
If a bird whispers an evil secret, the listener is not the sinner!
Not all messages come from a terrestrial origin.
Believe.
When olorum speaks, lesser gods listen
but do not ask how it is they hear
We are not careful of the truth in an emotional state (maybe referring to Americans), and thus do more harm than good. Someone who knows a dirty secret is not necessarily part of that secret. Again Shango claims to be a spirit or seer, and his information comes from the god Olorum.
142: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:31 am
Watcher opened a window looking onto Babylon at 2:29.
He holds the key to the ONLY door which opens to the lions den
143: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:33 am
TK - tributaries by definition stray from the river to leave the ocean
Not sure what to make of this one, or its significance…
144: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
How long does a cat hold a mouse before eating it?
This was in response to the question, “Is Natalee still alive?” We have two translations for this, depending on how optimistic one is. Someone said she was, and this referred to a ‘cat and mouse’ game of keeping her hidden versus people trying to find her. I think it means that she is no longer among us, since cats usually kill mice when they get tired of playing with them.
145: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon…
casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
“I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalee is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalee into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television.”
This seems to suggest Natale is alive. But I think it actually means that, as described, the drug trade out of South America controls Aruba, not the people or the Dutch. Indeed, the criminals are more powerful than the authorities. How can any justice be done?Incidentally, ‘casanostra’ refers to the Mafia…’it’s the Mob’ or something similar. I think the actual translation is ‘house of night’ or something.
146: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:39 am
Why would the Arawaks fear a lamb, tiny toothed little beast?
The chieftan would sacrifice the lamb,
but the demons would not leave for such a petty sacrifice
The Lamb knows, but doesn’t rule
Lambs aren’t knigs of the Jungle
The Arubans aren’t afraid of JVDS or his dad; they have no reason to. The P.M. will let Joren get charged and tried and maybe even convicted, but the drug lords will stay around just like always. Joren knows all this, but he is in no position to say anything!
Note: there was a small quote here, but I omitted it because Shango seemed only to be defending his way of giving us these clues!
147: Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:50 am
Always remember that what is unseen is greater than what is seen
There are many lies for each truth.
All has been seen from afar
and whispered by olorum to an earthbound son
I must leave to feed the messengers
The gods are talking
Good Night
My Synopsis:
This is what I think happened the night Natalee disappeared, based on what Shango is saying:
Natalee hooked up with Joren one last night before she heads back home the next day (they apparently had met three days before someplace). They gambled, ate and drank (at Carlos and Charlie’s), and then went off someplace at Joren’s invitation. Now, some back story: about a week ago, someone anonymously approached Fox news and said Joren had a reputation for ‘taking advantage of young ladies’. With that in mind, Joren called his boys the kalpoes to give them a ride to a ‘rave’ he invited Natalee to. Like some number of women before her, Natalee found herself at an as-yet undiscovered location…the house at the end of the road not paved with gold. Here she was given X and date-raped when she passed out. Joren is afraid of some of the people there…island drug dealers, their bodyguards, et cetera…and he gets uncomfortable enough to leave. Perhaps, this was standing order for Joren: pick us up a girl, get your pay, and get the Hell out. Unlike all those other girls before her, though, Natalee died somehow…maybe things got out of hand, maybe she OD’ed, maybe she fell down some stairs or something. At any rate the people at this ‘rave’ suddenly have a dead girl on their hands. These guys have been paying bribes to the police chief Van Der Straaten among others for years to quietly ply their trade, so when they tell him, he has to scramble to keep things hidden. So him, Paulus Van Der Sloot (Joren’s dad and Van Der Straaten’s friend), and his lackeys start stalling the investigation long enough for the body to be disposed of. He goes to Paulus and says, “hey man. You better get your kid and thoe Kalpoes and get a story, because they’re going to be the fall guys here”. No problem; Paulus knows (and maybe helped Van Der Straaten on) the fine points of Dutch investigative procedure and how to totally botch an investigation. So he hammers down an alibi with his boy and the Kalpoes, Van Der Straaten stalls and fucks things up on purpose, hoping that everything will either blow over or die down. You see, the boys won’t be convicted on the shoddy evidence the prosecution will be allowed to find. The real murderers, who are drug lords far more powerful than Paulus and Van Der Straaten, will be safe and their drug trade and other sins kept intact, and the cycle of corruption will continue. And as for natalee’s family, what can they do? They get, “Oh so sorry. We did our best to convict, but the jury says otherwise. Sorry about your daughter, go home now” That is what the officials involved in this crap are hoping for. However, Shango says that if the cowboys (us Americans and certainly Beth Twitty and her camp) refuse to accept the ‘peace offering’ (this farce of an investigation and trial), AND we put enough pressure on our elected reps and get the news media onto this (they should be eating this up by now), then this all will come to light in time. And from what Shango says, that is what it will take for Beth to bring her daughter home. Somebody on that island knows where she is, but is afraid to tell.
Now I should mention that in the addenda is a post missing from what I have above; if you read it at the suggested translation, it indicates that Natalee was sold into prostitution, but she had to be hidden a few days until a safe (that is, secret) way to smuggle her off the island was found. This coincides with the visions that two psychics had, both involved her being hidden away and finally rescued. The Bible Code at
http://www.revelation13.net/KingJames2c.html seems to suggest this theory; and I read someplace (possibly the above pages) that Reveleations 12 is about Natalee; she is the woman described therein and the dragon represents evils done to her and that threaten her. That is open to interpretation; it depends on what you believe. Of course, if Natalee is alive still and will be returned to her mother someday, it will not be through lack of searching; the Lord helps those who help themselves.
Let’s do it.
ADDENDA:
Sent by Dallas Also on 07/03/05- his interpretation of the ‘Babylon Gate’ that deals with the white slavery theory. I believe this is omitted from my above list.
Dan, here is my best version of my interpretation of the "key" as referenced in the exchange between Simian and Shango:
Shango:
Simian,why was the key from the Babylons Palace not used to open the Sumerians Door?
Why didn't the Powers that Be (who are mostly the Dutch) get the girl over to Venezuela (the Sumerians Door)? What happened to the normal procedure when a blonde girl gets grabbed?
They have become famished and Eden is beckoning.
The Venezuelans lare hungry for blonde girls and they have buyers in the Middle East (Eden!) for blonde girls.
Shango again (Dan, even though this is only minutes later, it seems to me that Shango had obtained the answer to his question about Eden beckoning):
Simian, his lordship did not bring the expected key.
Natalee was not the type of blonde that we can use, she is too high-profile. She is not the expected type of woman that is useful to us in this business.
The door never existed
So there was never any way we would be taking her as merchandise in our trade business
Eden is distant
We can't successfully send someone all the way over to the Middle East that is getting this much publicity
Simian:
The cowboys have only so much gold. The territory is rough.
Equusearch and the Americans won't stay here looking forever, so maybe the girl can be moved after they give up.
There are many secrets, but the Arawaks are helping.
The Aruban authorities are assisting in keeping the secrets undiscovered.
The palace is open to all, but the palace is a maze to most.
Most will not figure out what's really going on.
Shango:
Simian, his lordship did not bring the key for the Arawaks.
His lordship made the decision to not utilize "the key", that is, not use the normal transportation channel over to Venezuela, for the sake of not risking further damage to Aruba and its economy
So it will remain "cowboys and indians"
The posse was too late
The investigation can only be completed by Americans and the Holloways, because it is too late for the Powerful Dutch or the Drug Lords to quietly remedy the current situation.
Sent to me via IM at the scaredmonkeys discussion forums. This pretty much meshes with what Shango suggested, but it adds a bit of detail to the events of that night:
Na een aantal maanden ontdekten we nog een discotheek in Oranjestad: "Club Visage". Deze supergrote discotheek / poolcentrum staat niet in het centrum maar op een industriegebied net buiten het centrum.
http://www.geocities.com/rene_72/aruba942.htm Translation: After a few months on the island we found another discotheque in Oranjestad. "Club Visage" This real big discotheque/poolcenter isnt in the city, but in an industry area just outside Oranjestad.
This rene also told that it is a place where you can dance till 6 in the morning, they have salsa music and house.
The place burnt down a few years ago ( Light the fires, the gods are talking??) And someone on a forum assumed it would be build up again..I wonder how come they found this place only after a few months??
I think the rave party is somewhere outside, that is why the cowboys need to follow the music, and search at night.. See where the light is..I think it is on this industry area.
And I also do believe the people who work at casino's go there too, after their work is finished..
Did you also notice on the pictures on
http://www.assmotion.com there are a few that have a sign...It says Vip Lounge.
http://www.assmotion.com/photos%20arubash%202005/imagepages/image8.html and you need a vip card to go in there.
Maybe Natalee was taken inside, and Joran wasn't supposed to join her??
The club visage is outside town, don't know if the road is paved, the Marriott is on the same boulevard. no.101 and Visage was on no.152a. Between the numbers are companies, not normal houses I think.
Didn't the brothers say they left them at the Marriott??
INDEX:
A. Threads where shango speaks:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1190#commentsthread goes from june 26 @ 9:57am to july 3 @ 11:31am
shango found from june 26 @ 3:09 until june 27 @ 8:04
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1191#commentsthread goes from june 26 @ 2:33pm to june 27 @ 1:44pm
shango starts at 8:25pm
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1192#commentsthread goes from june 27 @ 11:56am to 1:54pm
shango starts at 12:28pm
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1193#commentsthread goes from june 27 @ 1:56pm to june 28 @ 10:29am
shango starts at 9:41pm
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1202thread goes from june 29 @ 9:38pm to july 1 @ 8:33am
shango found from june 30 @1:49am
B. Pictures / Photos
1. Arikok houses (at Arikok National Park I believe. Copyright as noted on photos)
Could these be the ‘houses at the end of the road not paved in gold’ first mentioned in Shango 47:3? Some have suggested that the house so mentioned is actually one of two houses owned by ‘Lorenzo’- a shady local character who owns a car lot and is one of the lions. Since Shango said not all lions leave their dens, I took it to mean the house in question was still inhabited.