SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[MumInOhio]

spare the police?

why did the girl owe money?

Jacobs (to Dave): "How much money do you have?"

what do you mean?

Morning Caps.....I think what COLUMBO is aying is this....when Natalee's father, Dave Holloway, arrived in Aruba the cop in charge, Dennis Jacobs, asked him right away 'How much money do you have?'. It has been thought that Jacobs wanted money to find Natalee.

We have also looked at van der Straaten and the Police Chief Ronnie Bernadino as the bad cops.

[MumInOhio]

After reading back, I have come to the conclusion that E.W. is DirtyHand!!!!

[CapsLockWizard]

COLOMBO:

CAPS SAYS
THE CODEs ARE SAVED

HAVE SHAKE THE WIRES, MARY HAS MOVED, NOW IN DIFFRENT PLACE. THE BABYLONIAS HAVE PAVED THE ROAD.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:27 pm
The HOLLOWAY’S have only so much gold. The territory is rough. There are many secrets, but the EXTORTIONIST are helping.
The DUTCH COURT is open to all, but the DUTCH COURT is a maze to most.

[Anna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ze2SMAtYNA&feature=related

Leonard Cohen Bird on a Wire

Not the kind of wire than can be shaken.  The kind that limits freedom like a leash.

A wire than controls.  Or listens?

IMOO

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[CapsLockWizard]

CAPSLOCKWIZARD SAYS:

HAVE SHAKEN THE WIRE, DIRTYHANDS CONSORT TO TOURIST HEAD, DIRTYHANDS IN POWERS HARBOUR.

CODES ARE SAVE, MOVING IN VERY DANGER ZONES.

DO NOT SEND POSSE, POSSE DO NOT HAVE POWERS ON INDIANS, SEND IN THE POSSE WITH POWERS TO RECOVER MARY.

 

[MumInOhio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ze2SMAtYNA&feature=related

Leonard Cohen Bird on a Wire

Not the kind of wire than can be shaken.  The kind that limits freedom like a leash.

A wire than controls.  Or listens?

IMOO

.

Interesting concept, Anna! Thanks!

Caps....Have you decided who is DirtyHand? TIA

[MumInOhio]

Caps...Sorry another question....is there an Albert who worked at the Red Sail with Koen? TIA...

[CapsLockWizard]

  DH DWELS IN SAVANETA  ::MonkeyHaHa::DANGER SM WALLS HAVE EARS.

[MumInOhio]

DH DWELS IN SAVANETA  ::MonkeyHaHa::DANGER SM WALLS HAVE EARS.

Sorry Caps, but who else lives in Savaneta....I don't think you are talking about Lorenzo, though I have read that he is sort of scary and crazy.

What did you mean by Danger...walls have ears?...TIA

[MumInOhio]

Caps...Sorry another question....is there an Albert who worked at the Red Sail with Koen? TIA...

Sorry....this question should have been for jackb.....


Lala's...please check your mail....

[MumInOhio]

Found this in a link that Columbo left the other day....still don't know what does or doesn't hold water, but this is a weird thing for Nadira or Satish to say to say. Remember she and Luis were questioned June 2nd and Luis again on the 18th.

This is from June 23rd CNN...

Satish Kalpoe to mom: 'We didn't do anything'

The mother of the Kalpoes said Thursday that one son had admitted he and his brother made up a cover story to protect Joran Van Der Sloot.

Nadira Ramirez told CNN she was permitted to visit son Satish Kalpoe at Aruba's prison within the past week. She stressed that the teen told her their story was not planned ahead of Holloway's disappearance, and she had no advance knowledge of it.

[ala_gunslinger]

We are protecting who?  The Sloots?  The caisnos?  The mob?  Who?  I am lost.

Gottenbos

[MumInOhio]

We are protecting who?  The Sloots?  The caisnos?  The mob?  Who?  I am lost.

Gottenbos

Hi gunslinger....Tyler always says that we get heaps of hits from the Netherlands whenever their name is mentioned.

[jackb]

The Riddle does not look good...it is not good... By computers never fails.....something is wrong with this riddle... who is SHANGO?????

anyone knows?

You may know this:  Shango is the god of Justice who can only be called upon by the Priest of that religion.  He speaks to the priest alone.  Someone no doubt knows the priest and got the message to post.  Shango does not take sides, observes and tells what he sees, if anyone (i.e., the priest) slants toward the Aruban people (Arawaks) in protecting them, it would and does show up some.  As far as the criminals vs the victim, the story does not seem to favor either side.  Just answers to questions asked.

What strikes me strange (er) is only one name seemed to be used and that was Mary.  That leads me to believe Mary may have been the name of a ship or boat since she was not a virgin (a maiden??.)  Some people have added things in the message to make it appear it is NH they are talking about, or even hinting at it, but the slight changes are noticable if you can get the very original. 

Also DNA or XTC could be licence tags or one tag.  Who knows. It could be numbering on a boat.The message that computers would be factored in or blood groups seems out of the range of what the message would be for this ShangoWhen the priest
calls on Shango there will be repercussions, according to what I have read.  This Shango does not like to dip around in "worldly affairs,"  but since the priest called upon him, he must have to answer if the ritual is right. 

This is beyond the realm of what most people understand. 

Shango would not answer mortals (except the priest in the ritual) nor would he acknowledge Simian (the fake.) Simian was called a very bad name by Simian.  It should be in Wikipedia, the meaning.    That is all for now on this.    Jack Blue
 I do realize it seems these people (the perps) change names and even appearances by using the photo altering. 

[MumInOhio]

Jackb...by photo altering are you referring to any one photo in particular? TIA

[Lala'sMom]

COLOMBO:

CAPS SAYS
THE CODEs ARE SAVED

HAVE SHAKE THE WIRES, MARY HAS MOVED, NOW IN DIFFRENT PLACE. THE BABYLONIAS HAVE PAVED THE ROAD.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:27 pm
The HOLLOWAY’S have only so much gold. The territory is rough. There are many secrets, but the EXTORTIONIST are helping.
The DUTCH COURT is open to all, but the DUTCH COURT is a maze to most.

Unless, you are the original Shango please speak in plain English.  I am weary of deciphering secret codes.  Tell us where this road that is now paved is located.  Point it out...where does it lead?  Where was she moved to? 

Have you read the Espionage posts?  I think you might find those riddles interesting also.  Did you look at the Merian Ernest posts too?  There is info in those as well. 

I have forgotten....did you say that the USA is protecting the Sloots or was that the Netherlands doing the protecting because of the mob? I am still trying to understand that post.  I am confused about Beth knowing all this...I must have read that wrong too.

How does Steve Croes fit in all this and where does the boat come in?  Who's boat was it?  What do you know about the Gottenbos being involved?  Do you think Charles Croes is involved in any of this cover up?  Does he gamble in those casinos too?  What are the high rollers? 

Do you still think Lorenzo was the 5th suspect?  Have you found out how he connected with Natalee in those first few days?  Did he frequent the casinos and we just didn't know about it?  Did any of her friends say they saw Lorenzo with her? I think that is what I thought you said...confused again.

Did you ever figure out who Arawak Dirty Hand is?  Who are the Arawaks in your theory?  Who are the  Babylonians? What about the Tribe?  Who are they, the elders or lions?  Is there a secret club on Aruba that we still don't know about?  More questions...no answers.

[Helen Back]

Found this in a link that Columbo left the other day....still don't know what does or doesn't hold water, but this is a weird thing for Nadira or Satish to say to say. Remember she and Luis were questioned June 2nd and Luis again on the 18th.

This is from June 23rd CNN...

Satish Kalpoe to mom: 'We didn't do anything'

The mother of the Kalpoes said Thursday that one son had admitted he and his brother made up a cover story to protect Joran Van Der Sloot.

Nadira Ramirez told CNN she was permitted to visit son Satish Kalpoe at Aruba's prison within the past week. She stressed that the teen told her their story was not planned ahead of Holloway's disappearance, and she had no advance knowledge of it.

   HOLY SMOKE!  I missed that one!  Awesome catch!  WTF?????

[Lala'sMom]

We are protecting who?  The Sloots?  The caisnos?  The mob?  Who?  I am lost.

Gottenbos

Why are we, as in the USA, protecting the Gottenbos?  What are your thoughts?  TIA

[Helen Back]

We are protecting who?  The Sloots?  The caisnos?  The mob?  Who?  I am lost.

Gottenbos

Why are we, as in the USA, protecting the Gottenbos?  What are your thoughts?  TIA

can't speak for Gunslinger, but when the comment was made, the discussion was with regard to the Gottenbos relocation to Georgia, USA.

[Lala'sMom]

Why would we protect them unless they turned evidence over to us...which I doubt since Sander has been back to Aruba since and is now in the Netherlands.  Not a good job of protection if you ask me...we know where they are.