I was trying to put this to rest one way or the other as I still have my other ‘David’ to follow up on. Strange I started with ‘only David left the den alive’ and look where it led me. I can’t tell if Pita’s and jackb’s David are the same. I am absolutely no good at pics. So have put the link Nut found right in the middle.
David Wever/Lorenzo Wever?Guido Wever
Jacobus Lorenzo ‘David’ Wever that died at age 69, jackb said he left for Holland, may have been the manager at the HI casino
Lorenzo/Guido Wever - we already know all about him, or do we?
David Wever – from Pita page 46 of the other thread – leaning against what appears to be a white pickup.
http://www.hi5.com/friend/584378--Dave--Profile-htmlDavid Wever – that jackb posted on page 69 and which Klaas posted the picture on page 70.
Lorenzo van Rijn/Gijn/Sijn…..need I say more!
Lorenzo Wever?
Rjames forums…9/9/2005
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:LoWHbBrK9kIJ:www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/natalee_hollowa_48.html+%2B%22natalee+Holloway%22+%2Bbreakfast+%2Bbrunch+%2Bolder+man&hl=enPosted by: Noplanstovisit | Aug 21, 2005 5:32:10 AM
"Tag team set up. Lorenzo Wever (casino employee, flew to Holland right after Natalee’s disappearance) befriends Natalie and makes sure he sits with her at breakfast so that observers will think something is going on between them (and maybe so, maybe not)."
"About all I'll say - 24 was the age I heard. And I am aware of a poker dealer who allegedly quit and left Aruba the day after he was questioned. Have no more info on that."
Posted by: Dan | Aug 21, 2005 3:14:08 AM
Snipped from a post on Jan 26th.I did find over at Refugees that someone seems to think these below are the three people being arrested. They say that Guido Wever was arrested last Wed and is the subject of the Dutch news interview and the one that Aruba wants to come back to be charged,that his attorney will fight this. One person said this Wever is not Lorenzo, but I am not sure about that. One said that Wever is not his Dutch last name, but his Dutch name does not exist in Aruba so he is called Wever - I have no idea is this is accurate and did not see this posted but once.
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http://bfnbackup.16.forumer.com/a/hiram-vrolijk-friend-of-joran_post77.htmlGrannyToad- 05-27-2006
Why does it matter who this boy is? He isn't even close to being one of the suspects. We never know if or which of Joran's pals were involved in what way with Natalee being disappeared, ladytiger. You have your personal interests, at BFN we want Natalee found or to learn how she was Disappeared. that doesn't mean that we have to discuss every distrant friend or every kid that was on the same school as a suspect. There are already way too much suspects to begin with. Discussing every person on the island in Joran's age group is not productive IMHO.
‘Ya spose? I knew about Guido a couple months before his name came up. Oh yeah, really last June except that Tito made a mistake and referred to him as Lorenzo. There is another Lorenzo, Wever, at that casino so I understand the mistake if Tito didn't know either well. So if in cases like Guido's and Koen's whom I'd also identified before they hit the blogs, it's good to know. Are there more to know, besides Freddy, Jaime, Steve Croes, the Kalpoe brothers ... ?’
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January 23, 2008, 05:42:17 AM -mine
Lala's...I found these posts from *******....on: January 02, 2008, 07:48:19 PM Quote from: ******* on January 02, 2008, 07:08:12 PMQuote from: ******* on January 02, 2008, 05:40:27 PMLorenzo who was questioned but released because of an alibi provided by Babylonians who couldn’t be disbelieved due to the positions their parents hold in government We know Guido's dad is Robert Wever a politician and the chairman of the Aliansa / MSA. No idea if Guido is related to Booshi Wever or the other high ranking Wevers. But I have long been suspicious that PVDS was not the only father who influenced this case.
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January 23, 2008, 04:35:03 AM - mine
Seeing Guido is being discussed again, this is what I found in the last LCD before we went to the new format and had posted tn the Shango and Simian thread.....Bringing this discussion from August forward as Jossy is quoted as saying that it was not Guido who had the scratches. dialogue from final LCD thread on August 11, 2007, 07:07:02 PMHow did Guido get into this picture, charged as suspected as being accomplice to among other things heavy battery, "Grievous Bodily Harm". What time did Guido leave work that late night? Anybody think that Guido was questioned in the first week of June 05 because of scratch/other witnesses, unrelated to Joran...initially?I've a question. Did Jossy say or write that the scratches were on GvC not Guido?He was detained last Wednesday. He was considered a witness in June, 2005. Since February of this year, he is now a suspect. Prosecutor in Aruba want him very quickly. Main evidence against him is witness made statements against him. He claims that he is innocent and never met Natalee last June.
Jossy says he will have to come back to Aruba and the case will go forward in court. Guido Wever is his name. He did not have scratches or bruises on him last June. He was interrogated last June. Good friend of Joran. Played Tennis with him and gambles with Joran. Jossy believes Guido is in bigger trouble than GVC ever was. GVC never knew Joran.Also, according to Jossy Mansur of Diario in Aruba Guido Weaver is not the individual that was arrested the other day with the scratches on his face. Guido Weaver is another detained individual. The identity of the individual who was arrested with the scratches has yet to be identified.
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January 14, 2008, 02:37:37 PM - mine
Do we know if Guido is Aruban or Dutch? I'm getting kinda stuck on someone else running off to the Netherlands...but that's because in the back of my mind I have one of the SG's mothers saying 'dutch brothers' from an influential family.
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January 11, 2008, 11:00:53 AM mine
From June 5th 2005….8.34AM …Arbeej
http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?t=2244&page=6quote:
"* One of the 3 original "persons of interest" is the son of a Judge on the island of Aruba..."
This was actually confirmed for us by an Aruban news reporter. He confirmed that one is the son of a judge, the other the son of a lawyer. It was not, however, clarified as to whether their Dads and the rest of the families live and work on Aruba. The three boys, though born in other countries, are legal residents of Aruba. I do not Know long they have lived there, but they are indeed legal residents.
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I will quit here as this path starts leading me to Sander and Koen.
So I wonder who were the two Dutch brothers reportedly arrested early on?
Lorenzo/Joran
Koen/Sander
Or maybe Guido and David are brothers. (But definately not blond)
All Arubans are Dutch, but not all Dutch are Arubans!
Link that leads to Gottenbos….a couple of posts on pages 2 and 3
http://www.katablog.com/month_blogs.cfm?m=5&y=2006&pagenum=2And this one takes me back to Sander
January 26, 2008, 09:45:29 PM - mine
Think I found my blue-eyed Dutchboy with the scratches and of course his phone was stolen...now let's see if the sitemeter goes crazy...LOL:
Mon May 22, 2006 1:22 am
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You're welcome Harry. It has been interesting to read around and I may have just gotten more confused than clarified. I'm going to bed now. You and me seem to be the only one's up late tonight and commenting.
There seem to be enough folks speculating about three people that my guess is there will be if it has not happened already. I think your original assessment that this Wever arrest is more than a suspect, perhaps a real charge, is likely accurate. The only reason I might guess that it may not be is the interview with Joe T >> I just didn't get the impression that he was convinced since he stressed they had known about him since the beginning.
One post somewhere said that Weaver worked the casino the night Natalee disappeared, my impression was for a few hours after her disappearance, and that others who worked with him thought he acted nervous (that wasn't their adjective, but it was similar), then he abruptly quit after her disappearance and moved to Holland. It is claimed by some he had scratches and bruises after here disappearance, but some were disputing this. He and Joran also were alleged to have played tennis the afternoon after Natalee disappeared.
I did find over at Refugees that someone seems to think these below are the three people being arrested. They say that Guido Wever was arrested last Wed and is the subject of the Dutch news interview and the one that Aruba wants to come back to be charged,that his attorney will fight this. One person said this Wever is not Lorenzo, but I am not sure about that. One said that Wever is not his Dutch last name, but his Dutch name does not exist in Aruba so he is called Wever - I have no idea is this is accurate and did not see this posted but once.
There is some speculation that the Columbian that some claim to have been arrested in Aruba may be the famous Jossy witness gardener. I'll just be tyou will have it all sorted out by Friday.
Here are the three:
1. Guido Wever who use to work at the Excelcior Casino as "dealer", who use to play tennis at the Aruba Raquet club, and who is the son of a political party's leader, Robert Wever, was detained in the Netherlands.
2. Sander G. is the kid in school in Aruba that left before his finals and flew to Holland last week and now is detained in the Netherlands. (Some speculated that he is Koen's younger brother, but don't know if this is accurate.)
Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos is a Colombian man who was detained in Aruba. (Some speculated that he also is Jossy's gardener witness.)