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MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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edit my list to include Steve Croes....LOL
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 03, 2008, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 03, 2008, 10:25:22 AM
Lala's...I can't find your post from the other day about this, but could this be the guy in the yelloe hummer?
Merian Ernest Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: Soc & Prot
So many people seem to be obsessed with the Simian. Even the santería overlord with the corny chopped verses.
"That my opinion is true by virtue of its being my opinion?"
I am confused over Caps reference to hummer...the only yellow vehicle I know anything about is Vadir van Loon and the photo that Julia took for us. Merian Ernst was making reference to yellowhammer which is a bird...the state bird of Alabama...I am fairly sure it was a reference to Natalee.
Ok A bit confused....here is the answer
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/WORLD/americas/10/09/chavez.taxes.ap/art.chavez.ap.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/10/09/chavez.taxes.ap/index.html&h=219&w=292&sz=20&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=VaV4E9kHcUyE_M:&tbnh=86&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhummer%2Bwhisky%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX
The Owner of the Yellow Hummer in aruba trade with venezueal in Whisky.
The FBI Adent that works from Venezuela with an operation between US and Holland but the informant give the wrong info....They took the wrong person The Inoncent..Mistaken Identety.
ALso They never when to the Ocean...do ney let them tell you that thay went there.. shago saya clearly : Mary never heard the buoy toll (she was never on the Ocean)
this statement tell you she was never on a boat nor near the bouy with the bells
The CAPS
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 03, 2008, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 03, 2008, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 03, 2008, 10:25:22 AM
Lala's...I can't find your post from the other day about this, but could this be the guy in the yelloe hummer?
Merian Ernest Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: Soc & Prot
So many people seem to be obsessed with the Simian. Even the santería overlord with the corny chopped verses.
"That my opinion is true by virtue of its being my opinion?"
I am confused over Caps reference to hummer...the only yellow vehicle I know anything about is Vadir van Loon and the photo that Julia took for us. Merian Ernst was making reference to yellowhammer which is a bird...the state bird of Alabama...I am fairly sure it was a reference to Natalee.
Ok A bit confused....here is the answer
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/WORLD/americas/10/09/chavez.taxes.ap/art.chavez.ap.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/10/09/chavez.taxes.ap/index.html&h=219&w=292&sz=20&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=VaV4E9kHcUyE_M:&tbnh=86&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhummer%2Bwhisky%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX
The Owner of the Yellow Hummer in Aruba trade with venezueal in Whisky.
The FBI Agent that works from Venezuela had an operation between US and Holland to get the owner, but the informant give the wrong info....They took the wrong person The Inoncent..Mistaken Identety.
Also Shango say that they never went to the Ocean...do never went there.. shago saya clearly : Mary never heard the buoy toll (she was never on the Ocean)
this statement tell you she was never on a boat nor near the bouy with the bells
The CAPS
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Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:09 pm
You can’t remember answering a phone call at 2:00 in the morning? When the next day your son was picked up?
Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Father is a suspect of the disappearance.
Daury is Paulus's codename. He must have disposed of the body.
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Quote from: Stom on February 03, 2008, 08:58:40 PM
Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:09 pm
You can’t remember answering a phone call at 2:00 in the morning? When the next day your son was picked up?
Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Father is a suspect of the disappearance.
Daury is Paulus's codename
. He must have disposed of the body.
Hi Stom....please elaborate for me if you can on what is bolded. TIA
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Quote from: ******* on February 03, 2008, 02:02:53 PM
OR
FOLLOW WHICH STAR????
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Follow the star...
Depends where you want to go....
Let me know
or the line of the shango
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LaLa,
Suppose JVdS is telling the truth about using the pay phone at the Marriott.
Why use a pay phone? ----- To call your drug dealer?
Who was JVdS drug dealer? ---- Lorenzo?
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Quote from: NCMike on February 05, 2008, 11:59:59 PM
LaLa,
Suppose JVdS is telling the truth about using the pay phone at the Marriott.
Why use a pay phone? ----- To call your drug dealer?
Who was JVdS drug dealer? ---- Lorenzo?
Joran had a cell phone, or didn't he ?
Fishy story to use the pay phone, unless he did not want the call on record ? Aruba should have records of calls made on their pay phones, I would think ?
I still think that Joran killed Nat at his home, and his Dad helped him dispose of her body.
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February 06, 2008, 03:26:22 AM »
Caps,
I read a post where you were looking for someone who built the Marriott..
I found in one of JVDS police statements where he mentions a girlfried who now lives in the states Jillian Johnson, he said that her father built the Marriott.
this is the link
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[/url]http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/joran610.htm
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LALA Thanks for the link. but Now I need to know the person that was in charge of constructing the Ritz.
The person that I am looking for is that supposed to have the lucrative contract for the materials in the deal of the Ritz Carlton.
The AHATA board know...This person wanted to be on the board of Directors for AHATA but they left him out.
Here is what I have research and I came to the following conclusion..
The Hammer nor the Block belong to a person. This person supposed to have got a contract for the building of The Ritz. , Now when the problem begin with the area, Marriott wanted to continue with the project but asked for incentives and Tax deal where the Hotel will be build with all material and including furniture will be tax exempt.
This person must have made a deal with Nelson Dauber, and Nelson must have gone to Holland to fore them to change the LAW to accommodate his friend developer. Holland said no, The AHATA also did not include him in the tribe and so his plan is to sabotage the whole project by performing a kidnap then turning in murder of Natalee. The person I think is:
Mark Purcell
Mark Purcell joined Interstate in 1988 as an accounting manager and gained additional financial experience in a number of related positions, culminating in director of business development. In his new position as vice president, business development and feasibility, he will be responsible for sourcing and pursuing hotel management and acquisition opportunities. Mark has a pr oven record of success with our development and acquisitions group,” Jorns explained. “His experience and contacts will be invaluable as we continue to expand our acquisition activities.”
Jorge Pesquera, The President of the Aruban Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) put this Task Force together – with member selection help and input from Joran’s attorney Antonio Carlo, and
Mark Purcell’s wife Marlene
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On June 30, 2005 Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber makes this telling statement about the effectiveness of this hand picked Task Force.
Prime Minister Nelson Oduber presents “anti incorrect news” committee
I believe that Mr. Purcell had a plan to destroy the AHATA, Mr. Ourcell was from a higher class in the tourism business bu by leaving him out of the AHATA, He decided to boycot Aruba.
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Wow! Interesting work you guys!!
I love reading your Shango Tango! Good work Caps!!
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Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2008, 05:11:54 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 29, 2008, 02:01:53 AM
Quote from: klaasend on January 29, 2008, 12:21:02 AM
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Ckeck Mbox
who is the brother of joran, the one that born in aruba
just Pauls and anita little fam tree
Paulus
Anita
Joran - born in the NL
Valentijn - born in Aruba (I think)
Sabastian - born in Aruba
Valentijn is about 2 years younger than Joran and Sebastian is about 2 or 3 years younger than Valentijn.
This is Valentijn. The photo was taken at Carlos n Charlies on April 7. 2007. I believe that
Joran
Valentijn just graduated high school this year.
Klaas and Caps, I found this in the archives, it says 2 of the 3 were born in NL
2 Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Re: Natalee Case Discussion #706 12/20 - on: December 21, 2007, 07:41:34 PM
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http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/paul_van_der_sl_1.html
Paul Van der Sloot Background
Tilburg
Van der Sloot (53) got his legal education at the University of Tilburg in the seventies. He co-founded the Legal Faculty Association Tilburg and also the faculty newspaper ‘Nondejure'. After he finished his studies he did not went to work for the government, but assisted citizens that had conflicts with the government. It was in that period
in Arnhem, where he met a woman Anita (teacher of Artistic Formation) and it was also there were Joran and Valentijn, two of his three suns, were born
.
New job
In 1991 Paul van der Sloot thought it was the time for a new job and he found one in Aruba where he was appointed for five year as a lawyer for the Aruban government.
Monday, June 27, 2005 at 11:23 AM
Lala's bringing these forward it says that Val was born in Aruba...
Bringing this forward so that someone can help with my confusion....Val dob...December when....what year....I read last night Joran said he'd been in Aruba 18 years...we have they moved 1991 and it's just now 2008. If Val graduated 2007...was he born in 1990...
I'm just wondering if Val wasn't born in Aruba...anyone.....?????
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Caps
...I'm doing a search of construction companies on Aruba and a familar name appears, both on construction companies and construction legal services.
Legal services...Wever Croes and Tchong...Hendrick...I wonder what happened to the senior partner Mr Wever
Construction...HJC Engineering...Wever....another Hendrick
http://www.hjcaruba.com/aboutus/index.html
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Quote from: MumInOhio on February 07, 2008, 08:20:03 AM
Caps
...I'm doing a search of construction companies on Aruba and a familar name appears, both on construction companies and construction legal services.
Legal services...Wever Croes and Tchong...Hendrick...I wonder what happened to the senior partner Mr Wever
Construction...HJC Engineering...Wever....another Hendrick
http://www.hjcaruba.com/aboutus/index.html
Did Paulus have anything to do with the construction contracts awarded in 2002...in particular the Marriott ones? And yes I still want to know about the airport contracts and the US Gov't money from 2000 as apparently they are way behind schedule that money was allocated for the airport. TIA
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Caps....
...every path I followed on construction companies and materials took me to one name....CROES.....which took me to Setar, tourism...
Lala's
...do you remember that post of Sam's from I believe Getagrip about the elections? Rudy didn't have enough votes to hold the position of Justice Minister and he said he would take the Tourism post if Hendrick could have the Justice one.....my question...if he didn't have enough votes, and he still holds the position...what does he have?????????
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Something to think about....
82. Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The new hammer and block could not island hop. The Babylonians can’t keep the gates shut forever. The days are 116 and they each have a number.
The Babylonians can’t use the whip on the boy. A elder is playing mute. If he doesn’t know, why did he heed the call?
The music man is singing. His song is not on the bill. One witness is not a witness.
For starters I know there was something up with that new judge not getting there and believe this had to do with DNA.....the bolded part
The music man, Lorenzo - DJ- is talking. His song - Paulus is Poppa - then one witness is not going to testify against his family. Thoughts!
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Reply #1678 on:
February 07, 2008, 11:56:45 AM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 07, 2008, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: hotping on February 02, 2008, 05:11:54 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 29, 2008, 02:01:53 AM
Quote from: klaasend on January 29, 2008, 12:21:02 AM
Quote from: klaasend on January 29, 2008, 12:17:32 AM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on January 29, 2008, 12:14:09 AM
Ckeck Mbox
who is the brother of joran, the one that born in aruba
just Pauls and anita little fam tree
Paulus
Anita
Joran - born in the NL
Valentijn - born in Aruba (I think)
Sabastian - born in Aruba
Valentijn is about 2 years younger than Joran and Sebastian is about 2 or 3 years younger than Valentijn.
This is Valentijn. The photo was taken at Carlos n Charlies on April 7. 2007. I believe that
Joran
Valentijn just graduated high school this year.
Klaas and Caps, I found this in the archives, it says 2 of the 3 were born in NL
2 Natalee Holloway / LCD Archive / Re: Natalee Case Discussion #706 12/20 - on: December 21, 2007, 07:41:34 PM
snip
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/paul_van_der_sl_1.html
Paul Van der Sloot Background
Tilburg
Van der Sloot (53) got his legal education at the University of Tilburg in the seventies. He co-founded the Legal Faculty Association Tilburg and also the faculty newspaper ‘Nondejure'. After he finished his studies he did not went to work for the government, but assisted citizens that had conflicts with the government. It was in that period
in Arnhem, where he met a woman Anita (teacher of Artistic Formation) and it was also there were Joran and Valentijn, two of his three suns, were born
.
New job
In 1991 Paul van der Sloot thought it was the time for a new job and he found one in Aruba where he was appointed for five year as a lawyer for the Aruban government.
Monday, June 27, 2005 at 11:23 AM
Lala's bringing these forward it says that Val was born in Aruba...
Bringing this forward so that someone can help with my confusion....Val dob...December when....what year....I read last night Joran said he'd been in Aruba 18 years...we have they moved 1991 and it's just now 2008. If Val graduated 2007...was he born in 1990...
I'm just wondering if Val wasn't born in Aruba...anyone.....?????
Mum...According to Nut44x4... Val was born on Dec 13 the year I don't know...Nut posted it this thread reply# 1643 on 2/02
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Hi hotping...thanks...looking for the year....Joran said he had been in Aruba 18 years and I think Val is 17, but not sure.
Just a loose end to do with that PV that was mentioned from someone born in Aruba, December birthday....
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===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
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=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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