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« Reply #2100 on: February 17, 2008, 05:02:40 PM »

Where exactly does this "witness" see Paulus at an ATM at 4am?

http://www.cmbnv.com/locations.php
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« Reply #2101 on: February 17, 2008, 05:21:20 PM »

Wyndham Hotel="The White House"?

Presidential Suites
Casabanca Casino
Small apts. for managers

Story: Inside the enclosed empty parking area is 3 small apts.  Out of the middle, came a man with a suitcase on wheels.  He looked around and paced back & forth very nervously for quite awhile...Finally, leaving with his suitcase...walking very quickly outside and into the main entrance to the business offices. Then on to the "Follies Show" where he placed himself in photos with the dancers and tourists...Riversol?

This man....Riversol!


Maze-Numerous hotels with private "7th floors"
Wyndham-2005-Casablanca Casino/Royale Caberet Owners from Belize
(friends of Posner?)
Allegro-2005 Owners from Spain (friends of Paulus?)

Riversol-The "middle man" between the two? Possibly "DirtyHand"?
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« Reply #2102 on: February 17, 2008, 05:40:15 PM »

Does anyone have a picture of Ben Vocking?


I just saw one and I don't remember where....will have a quick look in the Aruban Who's Who thread or ask *******.

Still on page 100 here.....
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« Reply #2103 on: February 17, 2008, 05:40:22 PM »


Shango said:

"The lamb shall run anew in virgin fields, cropping sweet grass which should remain untouched"

I read a little earlier that Joran was fearful for his life ??? and was on a ski vacation in Germany??? 


skiing can be extremely dangerous..........   
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« Reply #2104 on: February 17, 2008, 05:51:16 PM »

Does anyone have a picture of Ben Vocking?


I just saw one and I don't remember where....will have a quick look in the Aruban Who's Who thread or ask *******.

Still on page 100 here.....

Thanx i found this in a peter r de vries documentary of 2006 about Natalee Holloway. At 8 minutes into the video they talk about Ben (Voc)king there is his picture and a group portrait with him and other guys in tuxedo's. Lionsclub maybe?

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/peter-r-de-vries-reportage-sbs6--2006-deel-5/998645198
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« Reply #2105 on: February 17, 2008, 05:53:06 PM »

There is more if anyone would like it posted.  It is from the front page of SM, Dec. 2006.


I appreciate you posting them Chata. I know some posters have got their knickers in a knot, so to speak, when it was discussed on the LCD.

I look at it this way...the Marines are always looking for a few good men...occasionally they get a bad one.

Back to page 100...where's JuJu?
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« Reply #2106 on: February 17, 2008, 05:57:29 PM »

Here is a photo listed as Ben Vocking on that Judicial Inc website.  I'm not sure if it's verified:



Geeze - just went and checked the Judicial site and it looks like he's change the photo to this:



http://judicial-inc.biz/Joran_va_der_sloot.htm
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« Reply #2107 on: February 17, 2008, 06:02:06 PM »

Here is a photo listed as Ben Vocking on that Judicial Inc website.  I'm not sure if it's verified:




Thanks Klaas...JE found a video and should be able to confirm if it is.

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« Reply #2108 on: February 17, 2008, 06:02:55 PM »

Here is a photo listed as Ben Vocking on that Judicial Inc website.  I'm not sure if it's verified:



Hey Klaas that looks like the guy on this site it says he's a pastor in ther order of the dominicans

http://www.dominicanen.nl/detail_page.phtml?act_id=28&username=guest&password=9999&publish=Y&username=guest&password=9999&groups=DOMINICA&banner=2&categories=broeders

he s on here too funny coincidence
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http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:hRkYJGxsu3oJ:www.surinaamseparochie.nl/archief/nieuws2005/Nieuwsbrief%2520mei%25202005.pdf+ben+vocking+site:.nl&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2

He looks older than the guy in the de vries tape i mentioned
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« Reply #2109 on: February 17, 2008, 06:05:27 PM »

Ok so it is the same guy..



Ben Vocking o.p., provinciaal   
Hang 17
3011 GG ROTTERDAM
http://tinyurl.com/3ddfxf
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« Reply #2110 on: February 17, 2008, 06:07:11 PM »

"Riversol-The "middle man" between the two? Possibly "DirtyHand"?"


Possible, but DH is probably part of LE. MO.

Riversol is mor likely to be connected/involved with casinos circuit and what goes on there ... public and private.  Just MO.  Does he have a son???
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« Reply #2111 on: February 17, 2008, 06:07:25 PM »

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruban authorities have arrested a new suspect in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, the prosecutor’s office announced Friday.

The person “suspected of being involved” in Holloway’s disappearance was identified only as a 26-year-old with the initials S.G.C. The office did not disclose the gender.

The arrest was made at 6:25 a.m. local time, the office stated.

Qouted from the MSN webpage located here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8218429/
Posted by: Hman | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 12:47 PM

So as I understand it -

1)fourth guy was taken into custody last night and was being questioned.

2)fifth guy arrested this morning (different from guy above).

I have heard two names "lorenzo" and "person with initials SGC"...

Is this correct and can anyone tell which one is which?

Posted by: Florida Girl | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 01:04 PM






Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 2:58 pm
The music man’s song was not on the bill.   Croes
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Simian, who else plays in the orchestra? A Babylonian…. Per above Lorenzo
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian, older PVDS had one ot two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?   two cards-Croes and Lorenzo

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon    Lorenzo
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.    J2K
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too.

I do not know who is holding Lorenzo's hand



My answers in red....
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« Reply #2112 on: February 17, 2008, 06:20:36 PM »

"Riversol-The "middle man" between the two? Possibly "DirtyHand"?"


Possible, but DH is probably part of LE. MO.

Riversol is mor likely to be connected/involved with casinos circuit and what goes on there ... public and private.  Just MO.  Does he have a son???


Hi Chata...I asked if he is Jewish, does anyone know?

I was thinking the Star of David...


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« Reply #2113 on: February 17, 2008, 06:23:58 PM »

so PVDS is 5th as arawaks kept babylonian card hidden.......

DirtyHand is more vulnerable than the Arawak King:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/index.php?s=van+rijn+arrested

forbidden desires in small houses?
"Last Wednesday, the team of special projects of the police corps arrested the five men, L.R, J.V., R.V, D.W., and M.W. and confiscated 898 hemp plants, two live cartridges, five firearms, cars and money, during house searches in several homes."

Arawaks often go to play in the small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders:
Jossy:
"We think that the police moved in on him and others partially because they are mad for what happened to one of their cars that was taken by an anti-social and then burned somewhere near Santa Cruz. The culprit has since been arrested."

He holds the real key.......
He is the link!
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« Reply #2114 on: February 17, 2008, 06:24:50 PM »

vms or Nut ... did aristotle elaborate any more on his posts? I know he said he didn't wnat to be a bore, but some of us would find them quite interesting...I'm sure.   TIA

Aristotle wrote:

here is the most telling part:

casanostra Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:35 am
I picked the casanostra as a name after doing much research as to their relationship to the island of Aruba and the drug trade, as well as other things that go along with it. Do some googling and find out for yourself. I think that Natalie is alive and that there are people on the island, and those that pass through the island that no one wants to mess with. There lies the predicament. You have a criminal element more powerful than the authorities and a chess game is being played. I think Joran is being protected, but he is also guilty of something. Not murder, but leading Natalie into something very sinister. I apologize if my speculation is in any way disrespectful to she or her family, but I find this very intriguing and it goes much deeper than what is implied on television.

Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:36 am
Casanostra is standing at a window looking onto Babylon…



whereas others were merely opening windows to the truth with their guesses about vanderstraten, etc., casanostra was STANDING there staring the truth right in the face.
 

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Mum,

Thank you for responding yesterday on the other thread. Just decided it was best to leave well enough alone...



Thanks vms...I found this on the front page. I need to google for more info.

1.   Checkme on June 29th, 2005 10:16 pm
Moose, in short, NH, located on beach, is expected by party of people, prepared for her, take her to Colombia, (maybe Venezuela). The connection between AUA and Colombia is obviously what is the “missing link” here. I believe they know about this link but expsing it will ping them and all hope for NH being alive will be lost.



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« Reply #2115 on: February 17, 2008, 06:31:06 PM »

Michoo on June 30th, 2005 1:05 am

it is part of a religion found in Yorubaland, Nigeria. some of yoruba tradition/rituals are found in the carib and in South America (brazil)b/c many yorubians/yorubans were taken as slaves and transported to the carib and S.A. but i think this shango/simian person is one in the same. it is a college kid messing around with our minds. the shango story is very well known with people who study west africa.



Dos Santos - Brazil?...Will check...



The Arubans think NH is on the way to Panama with the help of? Who is the Carib?

Venezuelan…got something to check on.

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« Reply #2116 on: February 17, 2008, 06:33:55 PM »

Lala’s…How did Kristy get the impression Shango was a student? TIA
 
# Kristy on June 30th, 2005 1:55 am

Shango,

What do you study?

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« Reply #2117 on: February 17, 2008, 06:41:32 PM »

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruban authorities have arrested a new suspect in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, the prosecutor’s office announced Friday.

The person “suspected of being involved” in Holloway’s disappearance was identified only as a 26-year-old with the initials S.G.C. The office did not disclose the gender.

The arrest was made at 6:25 a.m. local time, the office stated.

Qouted from the MSN webpage located here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8218429/
Posted by: Hman | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 12:47 PM

So as I understand it -

1)fourth guy was taken into custody last night and was being questioned.

2)fifth guy arrested this morning (different from guy above).

I have heard two names "lorenzo" and "person with initials SGC"...

Is this correct and can anyone tell which one is which?

Posted by: Florida Girl | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 01:04 PM






Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 2:58 pm
The music man’s song was not on the bill.   Croes
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Simian, who else plays in the orchestra? A Babylonian…. Per above Lorenzo
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian, older PVDS had one ot two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?   two cards-Croes and Lorenzo

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon    Lorenzo
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.    J2K
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too.

I do not know who is holding Lorenzo's hand



My answers in red....


Croes provided a useless alibi...what did the other card provide?
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« Reply #2118 on: February 17, 2008, 06:43:05 PM »

Lala’s…How did Kristy get the impression Shango was a student? TIA
 
# Kristy on June 30th, 2005 1:55 am

Shango,

What do you study?



another posters named Michoo claimed that Shango was a bored college student sitting around playing with everyone...actually that may not be as far from the truth as some would think?  Are you interested?
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« Reply #2119 on: February 17, 2008, 06:49:09 PM »

According to the de vries tapes guy on the right is vocking

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