SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[MumInOhio]

the boy that was seen

Never thought of SGC as a boy...when do they become a man down there?

[Observer]

*******...did you look at the video?...I know you are good at recognizing people, maybe someone else will jump out of you!

Remember..It took us until last November to get a pic of Judge Smid!

I watched the video and he clearly said that is Ben King in that picture posted here by JE. I have watched all the old video's and that guy is clearly seen with Joran on several occasions transporting him to the courthouse,kia,the dna test..etc..

The video didn't show much except pics of KJ and Nit Wit that we havent seen before.

[COLOMBO]

the boy that was seen

Which one?

may be wrong here.....but didn't Sim say that SGC made it into statements of JVDS-as being seen?

[COLOMBO]

the boy that was seen

Never thought of SGC as a boy...when do they become a man down there?

me too......but the comment ref'd SGC

[JE]

about dirtyhand probably a long shot but i ll have a go
in these posts simian shango like to juggle letters for example slanderfoot=fandersloot
van der straten: straten in english means streets
pronounce vanDIRstrEETs with a little imagination this makes DIRTEE
just a thought

I see Caps and COLUMBO'S posts in your replies...thanks

Srry didn't know this was mentioned before but then there's so much info havent read up on it all yet lol

No actually Caps got the Dir and COLUMBO the long arm of the law.
You put it all together...Thanks...you made Lala's happy!

Glad to be of service if i made someone happy my day is good to thx

[MumInOhio]

the boy that was seen

Never thought of SGC as a boy...when do they become a man down there?

Rob is posting some pics from the video in the main thread!

Guess I should have said we have been discussing it for how long!!!!

[MumInOhio]

Did we ever find out who that guy was vms? TIA

[MumInOhio]

the boy that was seen

Which one?

may be wrong here.....but didn't Sim say that SGC made it into statements of JVDS-as being seen?

I'll check in the morning....JVDS stated he didn't know him, but Simian and all of us knew otherwise.

[Lala'sMom]

BTW, until Shango shows up Simian is pretty much plain spoken. He is not a cryptic riddler until he posts as Merian Ernst.

He talks about insurance fraud...that was being discussed at the time. 
The sex slave angle that was also being talked up by the internet bunch.
He talks about Chandra Levy being found a year or so later.
He relates his trip to KIA and what it was like to be there.
He talks about the landfill and how the Americans were the builders.
He even defends the 3 perps at first against what the MSM is saying about them.
He tells what is happening on Aruba at the time.

Then......it all changes in the later part of June.  Something within ALE caused Simian's change...he starts talking about the 5th suspect and how this person is getting away with it all.  It is not a monologue it is a conversation with the other posters. When Paulus became a serious suspect it all changed.  By June 26 Simian is talking in riddles and mystery...then Shango appears the next day.   Until this time Simian was just conversing with the posters on the FP trying to relate what he knew as facts at the time. 

After Shango emerges Simian spends the rest of the time arguing each time Shango appears...the FP posters clearly were more intrigued with Shango's mysterious posts and even Checkme was jealous at times.   You have to read in context to what the other posters are saying...but then again I have been saying it forever. 

Shango did not want Joran to be a suspect or guilty of anything.  He was the innocent lamb that was just doing what he had to do or was paid to do.  He helped his daddy or whoever.  He was not guilty of anything...Shango clearly wanted to lay some of the blame on Natalee for getting herself into this mess.  It is there plain as day...but I just see things in a different light than some of you...doesn't mean it's wrong or right...it's only my opinion.  I bet some of you wish I would just go away. LOL

[Lala'sMom]

the boy that was seen

Never thought of SGC as a boy...when do they become a man down there?

Rob is posting some pics from the video in the main thread!

Guess I should have said we have been discussing it for how long!!!!

Yes you should.

[vms]

Did we ever find out who that guy was vms? TIA

It must be Ben King, as identified in the video that JE posted. JE says the other pic, previously thought to be him, are of a pastor

[MumInOhio]

the boy that was seen

Never thought of SGC as a boy...when do they become a man down there?

Rob is posting some pics from the video in the main thread!

Guess I should have said we have been discussing it for how long!!!!

Yes you should.

I did and gave JE credit.

[JE]

I read someone wanted more info on aruba lions club thers lots a pictures in this link

http://www.arubalions.org/images/

http://www.arubalions.org/coppermine/

maybe its of some use

[Lala'sMom]

I read someone wanted more info on aruba lions club thers lots a pictures in this link

http://www.arubalions.org/images/

http://www.arubalions.org/coppermine/

maybe its of some use

Caps will be much appreciative of those pictures. Thanks.

[Observer]

Picture taken before Joran went to give his DNA

[vms]

Picture taken before Joran went to give his DNA

A larger version here: http://media3.comcast.net/data/news/photoshow/html/int_news/182889.html

[CapsLockWizard]

Klaasend And LALA:

I was watching Miami Ink last night and The firt thing cam to my mind was what a dirty ugly arms.

The show is about TATOO's and so here is my other opinion

DIRTYHAND = TATOO = STEVE CROES.

I have been looking for some picture and found these.

See if you can identify any of these.

http://www.nel.aw/

the crooks of aruba

[Tibrogargan]

"Riversol-The "middle man" between the two? Possibly "DirtyHand"?"

Possible, but DH is probably part of LE. MO.

Riversol is mor likely to be connected/involved with casinos circuit and what goes on there ... public and private.  Just MO.  Does he have a son???

Hi Chata...I asked if he is Jewish, does anyone know?

I was thinking the Star of David...

I don't believe in "coincidences"

CHATA:  You quoted AllanK's posts.  IMO if it had not been for him coming across those photos of Amy Bradley, the possibility of this being Natalee's unfortunate fate would not have been researched.

MomInOhio: The person that saw Riverol in Aruba said the first "instict" was the word "Jewish" ???

And the Caracas connection would be Riverol & others.
(remember Paul Baxter?)

Wasn't it Florida that thought Shango was a friend of the Chicago mafia?
He was outting Posner's new "Aruba Mafia"

 

Memories .....Memories......

[Debra]

I agree, LaLaMom....
IMO...Simian was trying to be helpful with local info
and possibly info from ALE
Shango is also trying to direct us in the right direction.  
That it goes way beyond Joran & the p.i.m.p.s.
(IMO they are all "pimps")

I think Shango uses clues with several meanings.

"Follow the music" in 2005

From C&C to "the beach" to the Allegro (fast tempo)to possibly the Radisson (Crescendo Hotel-volume) to the Wyndham (Royale Cabaret?)

It would make sense that the Allegro (w/4 owners in 2005 from Spain) was possibly Paulus "den" And the Wyndham (w/ owners in 2005 from Belize) Posner's "den"

Wasn't one of the first searches the Bird Sactuary across from the Wyndham? And then the Canashito Caves?

[Tibrogargan]

the boy that was seen

Never thought of SGC as a boy...when do they become a man down there?

Mum - I think this may have more to do with their suntans than their actual age.