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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 29, 2008, 01:23:20 AM
SHANGO SAYS: THE TIME is NOW 2:20 am the zzzzzzzzz are calling.
LOL
Night all..
Fin..
One more MORE before zzzz
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 27, 2008, 11:04:17 PM
This is known to be a fake Simian post from a location somewhere in Colorado. Shango says she is not in the ocean, is what I think he means there, but that's just my opinion.
Mom,
Care to post all the fake simian posts?
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 28, 2008, 08:23:47 AM
Quote from: Finbar on February 28, 2008, 04:57:03 AM
Quote from: texasmom on February 28, 2008, 02:54:39 AM
By the way Caps.... After looking at Fin's cigarette and comparing to yours.....just curious as to exactly what that is you're smoking, yours seems to be much thinner than Fins.....
Tex,
Them's Marlboro 100's - John Wayne Killers.
Fin
No, My Brand is More....very slim....and it hits hard. LOL
CAPS,
Bob Marley Killers.
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Quote from: ******* on February 27, 2008, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 27, 2008, 07:58:58 PM
need to know significance of JUN 28
Well that day Lorenzo Van Rijn was questioned,Daury Rodriguez birthday and something else that I cant find at the moment.
This is from the Dr Phil documents...
Name: Annie Vicenta Todd
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 1
Writer/Initiator: Ghrizanti Tromp & Dennis Jacobs
Description: witness pointing out an area of interest
Name: Annie Vicenta Todd
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Ghrizanti Tromp & Dennis Jacobs
Description: witness statement about a gray Toyota
June 28th. 2005
Name: Tanis Maria del Carmen Larmonie
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator: Patricia Wendriks
Description: witness statement by a Security supervisor at the Wyndham
Name: Martha Ruthmila Martis
Date: 28 June 2005 / 15:10
Pages: 2
Writer/Tnitiator: Patricia Wendriks
Description: witness statement by a Holiday Inn supervisor
Name:
Luis Ramirez
Date: 28 June 2005 / 11:15
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Johny Erasmus & Zoraida De Cuba
Description:
witness statement by the Kalpoe's stepfather
Name: Freddy Alexander Zedan Arambatzis
Date:28 June 2005 / 14:25
Pages: 11
Writer/Initiator: Shaniro Kelly & Haydee Nadal ..
no Jacobs this time
Description: witness statement
Name: Lorenzo Van Rijn
Date: 28 June 2005 / 17:00
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator: Giovanni Heyliger
Description: witness statement
Name: Carmen Aurora Jacopucci
Date: 28 June 2005 / 15:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs /Marcelino Ras
Description: witness statement by a fried of Van der Sloot and Araambatzis
Name: John Charles Croes
Date: 28 June 2005
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Johny Erasmus / Zoraida De Cuba
Description: Chat traffic
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It appears to me that it was all over on June 28th....Just tying up loose ends.
Carmen is the only one that Jacobs interviewed....I wonder why?
And we have the Kalpoe stepfather...this always bothered me that he was questioned on the same day as Freddy and Lorenzo.
And the gray
toyota
...not Deepak's silver Honda...
This is what I found on Karen and have presumed the same applied for Carmen...I need to go back and check the New York City filing.
MARTINA, Karen Theresa Paulina
– Allegedly was in porn video taped by Freddy. Joran admits to having sex with her multiple times. Was named by JQK as a date rape victim of Joran, but Tacopina claims she has said it was consensual
This would mean that IMO that Jacobs made them change their stories or retract their original stories....
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Quote from: texasmom on February 28, 2008, 08:58:59 PM
Not exactly what I was looking for but discusses the white truck.....
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/10/20/aruba-skeleton-found-by-tourists-was-remains-of-shipwrecked-sailor-from-1886-that-was-fast/
Response #44
Patti on October 21st, 2007 5:05 pm
Richard:
The cage that was stolen from the fisherman’s hut was reported early in the morning, long before the reports went out about Natalee missing. In addition,
there was a white truck that was seen by an eyewitness
. Around the same time,
another white truck seen on the beach near the Marriott with three men lifting the body of a woman into the truck bed
was also reported.
We know that
GVC owned a Mitsibishi similar to the one that was seen at the fisherman’s huts while Guido owns a white truck similar to the one seen at the Marriott.
We also know that the phone calls made to the Kalpoes and to Paulus were made from that location at or around the same time that these things were witnessed.
I know there are red herrings in this case, but I don’t believe that this is one of them. If anything it ties all those things that were a mystery to us together and explains why Paulus was in that area around 4am.
************************
Lala's asked about a white truck a while back and I believe we came up with a pic that was posted in the main thread that was a police truck.
Not sure where the info in Patti's post came from, but in the witness that contacted the FBI letter about GVC, she said he was driving a blue jeep, she thought, on June 9th. The reason GVC was bought in for questioning in April 2006 was from a tip to the dutch TV show about a white car parked at his house. (Or so we were told)
Guido had, I believe a white Sentra, it's in the PV's or book.
Sorry...I can't go back and find the links now....
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February 29, 2008, 08:02:16 AM »
Quote from: Finbar on February 29, 2008, 05:48:52 AM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 27, 2008, 11:04:17 PM
This is known to be a fake Simian post from a location somewhere in Colorado. Shango says she is not in the ocean, is what I think he means there, but that's just my opinion.
Mom,
Care to post all the fake simian posts?
Fin
Not Lala's, but the real Simian posts are back on page 112...or the links are.
The first link are the ones that Klaas verified to be Simian and the second two links I found from the front page as Caps found some were missing....169 to 179 inclusive.
These seem to fit, but I don't think they were checked by Klaas, but what was a little strange was that Simian posted two in a different thread from the others.
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Caps
…I am still not sure what the ‘responsive to request 41’ means. TIA
Responsive to Request 41 + Name: Jorge Porras Sanches ....is this like a subphoena?
IIRC you were coming up empty on Freddy Zedan and even said that the name may have been a smokescreen.
Could you please share what you came up with on Freddy and where he lives.
Again TIA
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February 29, 2008, 09:38:32 AM »
Does anyone think that this picture posted early was trying to show us something important? Not sure is the road to this establishment was paved......but have always felt there was a message.
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February 29, 2008, 09:42:20 AM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 28, 2008, 11:12:20 PM
One more question....does Alex Matthews like to deep sea fish? Anyone know?
....not certain, but I believe he moved to the Ocean State, so could be possible......
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CapsLockWizard
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Quote from: MumInOhio on February 29, 2008, 08:07:52 AM
Caps
…I am still not sure what the ‘responsive to request 41’ means. TIA
Responsive to Request 41 + Name: Jorge Porras Sanches ....is this like a subphoena?
IIRC you were coming up empty on Freddy Zedan and even said that the name may have been a smokescreen.
Could you please share what you came up with on Freddy and where he lives.
Again TIA
It is not a subphoena: it is the Respons to Artikel 41 of penal code of Aruba
Titel III. Uitsluiting en verhoging van strafbaarheid
Artikel 41
1. Niet strafbaar is hij die een feit begaat, geboden door de noodzakelijke verdediging van eigen of eens anders lijf, eerbaarheid of goed tegen ogenblikkelijke, wederrechtelijke aanranding.
2. Niet strafbaar is de overschrijding van de grenzen van noodzakelijke verdediging, indien zij het onmiddellijk gevolg is geweest van een hevige gemoedsbeweging, door de aanranding veroorzaakt.
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Quote from: MsVada on February 28, 2008, 04:11:52 PM
The archives only go to june 30th, I know it was after that that the moderator said that in the forum to mcrhme and others posting at that time.....If I am not mistaken, the moderator at the time was RB??? Does anyone else remember this? I know Snorkletoes was around then, and so was BestBuddy and a few others.
....Karen, the woman who was looking for her son.....
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 29, 2008, 09:47:29 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 29, 2008, 08:07:52 AM
Caps
…I am still not sure what the ‘responsive to request 41’ means. TIA
Responsive to Request 41 + Name: Jorge Porras Sanches ....is this like a subphoena?
IIRC you were coming up empty on Freddy Zedan and even said that the name may have been a smokescreen.
Could you please share what you came up with on Freddy and where he lives.
Again TIA
It is not a subphoena: it is the Respons to Artikel 41 of penal code of Aruba
Titel III. Uitsluiting en verhoging van strafbaarheid
Artikel 41
1. Niet strafbaar is hij die een feit begaat, geboden door de noodzakelijke verdediging van eigen of eens anders lijf, eerbaarheid of goed tegen ogenblikkelijke, wederrechtelijke aanranding.
2. Niet strafbaar is de overschrijding van de grenzen van noodzakelijke verdediging, indien zij het onmiddellijk gevolg is geweest van een hevige gemoedsbeweging, door de aanranding veroorzaakt.
Thanks Caps....Good Morning...Could I please have a quick English translation? TIA
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Quote from: bleachedblack on February 29, 2008, 09:38:32 AM
Does anyone think that this picture posted early was trying to show us something important? Not sure is the road to this establishment was paved......but have always felt there was a message.
This picture looks like they entering a Garage or some building. will check.
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Good catch Caps....
...looked at that many times and never noticed...Is that the same time as the pic with Freddy, Bailey and Alyce in the back seat?..TIA
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Caps
, not ignoring you, I just can't see any words with your last post with the pic.
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Hi BB...
Quote Caps
This picture looks like they entering a Garage or some building. will check.
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Quote from: MumInOhio on February 29, 2008, 10:05:54 AM
Hi BB...
Quote Caps
This picture looks like they entering a Garage or some building. will check.
Thanks
Mum
....and may I add, I agree.
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Quote from: bleachedblack on February 29, 2008, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 29, 2008, 10:05:54 AM
Hi BB...
Quote Caps
This picture looks like they entering a Garage or some building. will check.
Thanks
Mum
....and may I add, I agree.
I may be wrong, but I thought someone was able to lighten that picture long ago and they were riding on the road toward Diamonds International.
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Quote from: bleachedblack on February 29, 2008, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 29, 2008, 10:05:54 AM
Hi BB...
Quote Caps
This picture looks like they entering a Garage or some building. will check.
Thanks
Mum
....and may I add, I agree.
I may be wrong, but I thought someone was able to lighten that picture long ago and they were riding on the road toward Diamonds International.
Hi 2NJ....could be, I don't recall that, but I see a piller, an arch and some signs. If it was the same time as Bailey etc, they have been interviewed by the FBI, so I'm sure they at least know where it is!....LOL
Will have to check dates, but the guy from Diamond's International was questioned like late July or August, maybe it was after this surfaced.
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Quote from: bleachedblack on February 29, 2008, 10:08:55 AM
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Hi BB...
Quote Caps
This picture looks like they entering a Garage or some building. will check.
Thanks
Mum
....and may I add, I agree.
I may be wrong, but I thought someone was able to lighten that picture long ago and they were riding on the road toward Diamonds International.
Diamonds International was on the sign, but it did appear they were entering a loading area, or an import area? The vantage point of the person taking the pic....and likely the one who posted the pic is unique. Whether this was with Bailey Anne or one of the other
20 tourist girls ....no way to know that I can see. But there seems to be a message MOO. Porn on one of the 2 screens.....photog in the back seat. My guess is that the one taking the pic is the usual cameraman........
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===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Natalee Holloway
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