SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #1

[MumInOhio]

I have a reason for asking about Satish and Deepak playing tennis...we need to establish the fact that he did or did not play tennis for a reason.

Lala's...I can not recall anything about either of them playing tennis.

I will check book and PV's to see if I can find anything and the dates that both came to Aruba.

I don't think Deepak would with the hours he worked at the cafe, but that's my opinion only.

I am wondering why Satish would be so upset by a tennis player/instructor or whatever's death if he never played tennis?  Maybe, it was just a teacher and not a tennis instructor or maybe it was a lie since all people lie.  I am thinking that Satish, in the conversations that were recorded, was indeed talking about Natalee...of course we all knew that. Oh well.

I had forgotten all about that!...Was it Deepak or Satish?

I did start to look for the drownings in MsMaple's thread and never finished!

What do you remember about it?...TIA

I think he mentioned a death in an email. And it was assumed that he talked about Natalee, but it was explained as him refering to the drowning of a tennis player. i am not 100% sure though

Thanks JE...I will have to look it up...I thought I remembered a teacher...how soon we forget....information overload is what it is!

Still need to find when the Kalpoes moved to Aruba...it was different times, but Deepak may never have gone to school there.

[jackb]

I have a reason for asking about Satish and Deepak playing tennis...we need to establish the fact that he did or did not play tennis for a reason.

Lala's...I can not recall anything about either of them playing tennis.

I will check book and PV's to see if I can find anything and the dates that both came to Aruba.

I don't think Deepak would with the hours he worked at the cafe, but that's my opinion only.

Yeah, they played beach tenns looks like a badmiton set up to me.  Have a pic somewhere of Depak and the Sasquatch (sp?) playing what they pass for tennis down there.  The net is high like badminton.  May use a tennis ball modified for sand.    jack b

[jackb]

Caps for you

Caps I asked Klass to send you a pic of what I was speaking of about the right llight.  Same pic, but different lighting.  Also that green windshield does not help on that car.   I gotta go for now.  j/b  30208

[klaasend]

This is the photo Jackb was referring to.  We had already determined (I think the pics are in the Bailey Ann thread) that Deepak's car is in front of Diamonds International:




Link to the Bailey Ann thread for your viewing pleasure 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=663.0

[MumInOhio]

Lala’s was right…of course…tennis teacher…LOL


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The 24-year-old native of Suriname in fact told a friend he was upset and thought it was stupid of him to let Holloway, whom he called a drunk stranger, get into his car, the attorney said.
Kalpoe then commented on the death of a tennis teacher who drowned in Aruba almost three years ago. When prosecutors translated his writing from Papiamento to Dutch, they substituted 'the death' to 'her death,' and assumed he was talking about Holloway, Wix said. Most Arubans speak Papiamento, a Creole language that has absorbed words from Spanish, Dutch, English and Portuguese.
Mos was on vacation Friday and could not be reached for a response. Another prosecutor, Dop Kruimel, did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.


From book…- though Koen and Sander Joran met the hindu Kalpoe brothers Deepak and Satish. Deepak had been living on Aruba for 5 years, Satish for 3 years

[Lala'sMom]

My point exactly! If Mos had made an effort, he would have found out that Satish not only doesn't play tennis...he had not been in Aruba long enough to establish a relationship with a tennis teacher that later died.  The way they take their words as credible fact just drives me nuts.  I guarantee you they did not ask any further questions after Satish said it was a teacher.  They do not and can not let the truth come out. 

[Lala'sMom]

I need monkey help here...this thread needs an index of some sort.  If possible, could several monkeys volunteer to read through some of the old pages and jot down the highlights and then send it to my email? I have already done pages 22 through 42 and a few others.  Please, is anyone interested?

[sharon]

lala's -- i see the request, but unfortuantely am on my way to work today. sorry.

weekends is all the 'free time' i have   and not so much this weekend.

i hope you get the help you've asked for before next weekend -- i will check back as i can.

just wanted you to know that i saw your request and would have liked to have helped -- as I've been a 'shango head' for a long time 

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks for at least considering it. It is a big task ahead if I actually attempt it in some way.

[finngirl]

I need monkey help here...this thread needs an index of some sort.  If possible, could several monkeys volunteer to read through some of the old pages and jot down the highlights and then send it to my email? I have already done pages 22 through 42 and a few others.  Please, is anyone interested?

I'll gladly help 

your email addy ... ?

[MumInOhio]

My point exactly! If Mos had made an effort, he would have found out that Satish not only doesn't play tennis...he had not been in Aruba long enough to establish a relationship with a tennis teacher that later died.  The way they take their words as credible fact just drives me nuts.  I guarantee you they did not ask any further questions after Satish said it was a teacher.  They do not and can not let the truth come out. 

Lala's...I meant to post the link and forgot...It appears to be Deepak...I am doing a quick search on drownings...so far a 16 year old boy...June 7th 2005??? and a Bulgarian tourist 01/2008.

JE...sorry I missed your post on this until after I loggout...the page flipped and I usually go back and check...sorry!


In discussing the online chat, prosecutor Hans Mos told reporters that one of the suspects — he did not disclose which — wrote that Holloway, 18 at the time of disappearance, was dead. He also said Internet messages among two suspects discussed meeting drunk American girls in Aruba.

Wix said the prosecution misinterpreted Deepak Kalpoe's Internet chats.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/21/news/CB-GEN-Aruba-Missing-Teen.php

[MumInOhio]

Lala's and JE...one more on the tennis teacher....I did not find one that drowned, but didn't expect to.

More confusion as to Satish or Deepak, but the timeline is discussed here...

http://scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=42c014a3fb9cd175700dac206d694767

[Lala'sMom]

I need monkey help here...this thread needs an index of some sort.  If possible, could several monkeys volunteer to read through some of the old pages and jot down the highlights and then send it to my email? I have already done pages 22 through 42 and a few others.  Please, is anyone interested?

I'll gladly help 

your email addy ... ?

Thanks!  cindoal@yahoo.com

[Lala'sMom]

Lala's and JE...one more on the tennis teacher....I did not find one that drowned, but didn't expect to.

More confusion as to Satish or Deepak, but the timeline is discussed here...

http://scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=42c014a3fb9cd175700dac206d694767

I may have my perps confused then...maybe it was Deepak, but I thought it was an email or phone call between Satish and someone else.  Hmmmm.

[Lala'sMom]

After reading that link it appears to be Deepak they are talking about...my mistake.  Sorry.  Now, the next question should have been where did you play tennis, Deepak?  How long have you played there and how in the heck could you afford to be a member of a tennis club with your salary?  What hours were your lessons?  Did you ever have any contact with anyone else at that club? Please give us the names of those people that routinely saw you at your tennis lesson.  I know, that would be too much to ask...but that is just some of the questions they should have asked...I am thinking that Deepak did not play tennis at any exclusive club on Aruba at all.

[MumInOhio]

Lala's and JE...one more on the tennis teacher....I did not find one that drowned, but didn't expect to.

More confusion as to Satish or Deepak, but the timeline is discussed here...

http://scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=42c014a3fb9cd175700dac206d694767

I may have my perps confused then...maybe it was Deepak, but I thought it was an email or phone call between Satish and someone else.  Hmmmm.

I'm not sure...this link says Satish and the other says Deepak...LOL...do I have that right?

I think it's all BS anyway....no tennis teacher drowned...and more confusion....

I quit searching after an hour or so as I figured it was a waste of time.

The one that bothers me is the 16 year old on June 7th...another coincidence...hang on I read somewhere this morning he was 7....you get my drift!

[MumInOhio]

After reading that link it appears to be Deepak they are talking about...my mistake.  Sorry.  Now, the next question should have been where did you play tennis, Deepak?  How long have you played there and how in the heck could you afford to be a member of a tennis club with your salary?  What hours were your lessons?  Did you ever have any contact with anyone else at that club? Please give us the names of those people that routinely saw you at your tennis lesson.  I know, that would be too much to ask...but that is just some of the questions they should have asked...I am thinking that Deepak did not play tennis at any exclusive club on Aruba at all.

I think jackb said he has a pic of Satish playing with a high net like badminton...this would be beach tennis...much the same as our beach volleyball...I would guess...doesn't even have to be organized...just for fun.
No instruction necessary!

[Anna]

For what it's worth, which is nothing, I remember it being Satish who was talking on the phone to a girl at five or six o'clock in the morning, not sleeping as was his sworn statement.

The girl was in Suriname I believe as was the alleged (and probably non-existent) tennis teacher.  Didn't say he took lessons from this teacher, only that she/he  was supposedly a friend.

Must have been a very very close friend for him to still be so upset supposedly years later.  Just something they made up to explain why he was talking about a dead person on the phone that night.

Now why would he have even been thinking of dead people?  Most young people I know seldom do that.  And that night of all times, acting strangely and talking about dead people?  It was Natalee and not any tennis teacher at all.  They just make up things and expect us to believe whatever tale they come up with.

[JE]

My point exactly! If Mos had made an effort, he would have found out that Satish not only doesn't play tennis...he had not been in Aruba long enough to establish a relationship with a tennis teacher that later died.  The way they take their words as credible fact just drives me nuts.  I guarantee you they did not ask any further questions after Satish said it was a teacher.  They do not and can not let the truth come out. 

Lala's...I meant to post the link and forgot...It appears to be Deepak...I am doing a quick search on drownings...so far a 16 year old boy...June 7th 2005??? and a Bulgarian tourist 01/2008.

JE...sorry I missed your post on this until after I loggout...the page flipped and I usually go back and check...sorry!


In discussing the online chat, prosecutor Hans Mos told reporters that one of the suspects — he did not disclose which — wrote that Holloway, 18 at the time of disappearance, was dead. He also said Internet messages among two suspects discussed meeting drunk American girls in Aruba.

Wix said the prosecution misinterpreted Deepak Kalpoe's Internet chats.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/21/news/CB-GEN-Aruba-Missing-Teen.php

Mum no problem about missing the post LOL

I m sure the deepak was the one who talked about the drowned tennis teacher on a retrieved chat session. He actually talked about his/her death while not mentioning the tennis teacher in the first place. his lawyers then said that the papiementu word "su" can mean "his" or "her" and said that his or her death refered to the tennis teacher and not Natalee.

He also made a phone call to a girl in surinam about five hours after Joran supposedly left Natalee at the beach. The girl later told police that was acting strange

If he did talk about a tennis teacher it could have been a male or female

some articles:
http://betweenlifeanddeath.blogspot.com/2007/12/natalee-holloway-recent-news.html

[JE]

oh and the teacher drowned at conchi just like the bulgarian tourist. Conchi is less than a mile from where tim miller believed the shallow grave was